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david r
01-11-2009, 08:43 AM
Stan Lee told us that Cyclops was Charles Xavier's first student. Scott was the one Xavier discovered first and brought under his wing. This was established for years until later, it was revealed that Jean Grey was actually the first student at the School. So tell me, which is??

Is Scott or Jean the first recruit and X-Man under Professor Xavier?

And please, please, please NO MENTION OF TESSA/SAGE IN THIS THREAD!!!! This should only be concerned with Cyclops and Marvel Girl!!!

mcgaffer
01-11-2009, 08:48 AM
I think that Jean was the first student but Cyclops was the first X-Man. I think that Xavier did'nt want Jean in the X-Men at first, especially considering how he was only just getting her over the trauma that led to him helping her in the first place.

HellFrost
01-11-2009, 08:49 AM
Cyclops. Jean Grey was more like a patient until she actually got to the institute.

Michael P
01-11-2009, 08:49 AM
Scott was the first one to get a costume, a codename, and go out on a mission. Case closed.

david r
01-11-2009, 08:50 AM
Well, in Uncanny X-Men #1, all four male students were already at the School and acting X-Men. When Jean Grey arrived as a student, Scott, Hank, Bobby and Warren were already there. So how could Jean be the first student, unless Xavier was hiding her away while he trained the male members?

Pach!
01-11-2009, 08:51 AM
If Sage cant be mentioned neither should Jean Grey. Its Cyclops.

Omega Alpha
01-11-2009, 08:56 AM
Well, in Uncanny X-Men #1, all four male students were already at the School and acting X-Men. When Jean Grey arrived as a student, Scott, Hank, Bobby and Warren were already there. So how could Jean be the first student, unless Xavier was hiding her away while he trained the male members?

Like it was said, she was a patient, not really an X-man, or even a student. And he helped her when she was a kid.

Scott was the first one to get a costume, a codename, and go out on a mission. Case closed.

That's pretty much it.

Swashbuckler
01-11-2009, 09:35 AM
Despite the pleas, the obvious answer is Sage/Tessa. If not her, it's Cyclops.

Grendel0606
01-11-2009, 10:26 AM
Well, in Uncanny X-Men #1, all four male students were already at the School and acting X-Men. When Jean Grey arrived as a student, Scott, Hank, Bobby and Warren were already there. So how could Jean be the first student, unless Xavier was hiding her away while he trained the male members?

He treated her from when she was 11 or 12, but she was at home mostly. Later on he gathered the male members, then he asked the now grown Jean to come to the school as well.

Prodigy55
01-11-2009, 11:05 AM
It's obviously Cipher. She knows Cyclops, but nobody else. She was the one who recruited him.

DUH!

Josef F.
01-11-2009, 12:25 PM
This thread is biased.

just another user
01-11-2009, 12:28 PM
I'm not meaning to mess up your thread, and you said you didn't want her mentioned, but did Claremont not clearly establish in XXM that it was Tessa? I guess a case could be made for any of the three.

drwho
01-11-2009, 12:29 PM
Sage was never an actual student at the school.

psycwave
01-11-2009, 12:40 PM
This thread is blasphemous against Sage. Dn@n will be hearing about this.

Christopher O
01-11-2009, 12:45 PM
Whatever. Storm stole his wallet before he met any of them.

mattbib
01-11-2009, 01:37 PM
I'm not meaning to mess up your thread, and you said you didn't want her mentioned, but did Claremont not clearly establish in XXM that it was Tessa? I guess a case could be made for any of the three.She was an agent of Xavier's, not an X-Man. Back then there was formal membership and a clear differentiation. Not like today where practically every mutant who's been on or associated with any X-team can be construed to be an X-Man.

Shadowbrat
01-11-2009, 02:18 PM
It was Wolverine...

As will be chronicled in the young adventures of Master Howlett, X-man

Steven F.
01-11-2009, 03:26 PM
Jean was a student of his before Cyclops, Sage was an agent of his before any of them, and Cyclops was the first official X-Man. All clearly established.

david r
01-11-2009, 05:14 PM
He treated her from when she was 11 or 12, but she was at home mostly. Later on he gathered the male members, then he asked the now grown Jean to come to the school as well.

This sounds like the right answer. I think this is the truth. So Jean Grey WAS the first student, just not at the actual Mansion.

Josef F.
01-11-2009, 05:55 PM
This sounds like the right answer. I think this is the truth. So Jean Grey WAS the first student, just not at the actual Mansion.

Stop ignoring Tessa Fox/Niles

Omega Alpha
01-11-2009, 07:28 PM
This sounds like the right answer. I think this is the truth. So Jean Grey WAS the first student, just not at the actual Mansion.

And she wasn't a X-man either, because Xavier hadn't even had the idea of creating a school or a superhero team.

Phoenix_Force
01-11-2009, 07:50 PM
Chronologically he met Tessa, then Storm, then Jean, then Scott, and then the rest . . .

. . . And as for students Jean was the first "student" or person he assisted in using powers under the role of a Professor/teacher figure . . .

. . . And Tessa was the first individual to be given a role in his network, that we know of . . .

. . . But the first person to be drafted as an X-Man, that is, to be told "hey you're going to wear this silly costume and live in my mansion," was Cyclops.

x_goalkeeper
01-12-2009, 12:24 AM
I always thought Scott was the first X-Man, is this not the case? :confused:

Dizzy D
01-12-2009, 12:29 AM
Chronologically he met Tessa, then Storm, then Jean, then Scott, and then the rest . . .

. . . And as for students Jean was the first "student" or person he assisted in using powers under the role of a Professor/teacher figure . . .

. . . And Tessa was the first individual to be given a role in his network, that we know of . . .

. . . But the first person to be drafted as an X-Man, that is, to be told "hey you're going to wear this silly costume and live in my mansion," was Cyclops.

Slight correction: he "met" Storm before he met Tessa: when he met Tessa his legs were already broken, when he met Storm he was still walking.

darknessatnoon
01-12-2009, 08:26 AM
Slight correction: he "met" Storm before he met Tessa: when he met Tessa his legs were already broken, when he met Storm he was still walking.

It's true. Storm pickpocketed him before he fought Lucifer. Then he recruited Tessa.

Maestro
01-12-2009, 08:47 AM
Wolverine is the first X-Man. He was there before any of them were even born

xgeek52
01-12-2009, 12:20 PM
okay, you have to establish whether it's x-man vs.student which in my opinion isthe same thing...

xavier always had the idea for the school...he said them with moria and he shared them with (gad her name just went out of my head) his first love who became an acolyte...

if you're gonna stick with all the frackin' changes marvel has made and all the stories about the early days and consider in terms of the school and the team (if that's possible) scott is the first student/x-man...jean was a long term patient who the greys finally decided to sent to the school...

the rest is just marvel screwing with our brains...

AcesX1X
01-12-2009, 12:56 PM
if all of you will kindly refer back to key flashbacks of x-treme x-men, you will plainly see that tessa/sage was wearing an OFFICIAL x-men uniform during her training with xavier.

the entire time he was screaming obscenities at her, she was wearing that trademark blue and gold.

QED, the correct answer is sage.

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Papa Moai
01-12-2009, 06:50 PM
I always thought Scott was the first X-Man, is this not the case? :confused:Like others have said, Jean knew Xavier before Scott did but she didn't join the X-Men until after the other members of the Original Five. Scott was the first one to get a proper uniform, superhero-training and get send into action.

Diablito
01-12-2009, 07:06 PM
Professor X was the first X-Man. Agent Duncan was the second, lmao.

MarvelGirlBoy
01-12-2009, 08:07 PM
It's true. Storm pickpocketed him before he fought Lucifer. Then he recruited Tessa.

Storm was too old; Xavier wanted a lithe young girl to bathe and care for him in his newly infirm state.

Now that is the scene missing from Xavier's sins in Legacy.

HellFrost
01-12-2009, 11:11 PM
I still don't agree that Jean was his first student either. I believe Jean was simply his patient that he later accepted as a student when he decided to bring her to the Mansion. Scott is and will forever be the first student AND X-Man.

Lester C.
01-12-2009, 11:48 PM
Wouldn't Xavier himself be the first X-man?