Dead Girl: full of crap?

[The Lucky One]

The end of Secret Invasion got me thinking... apparently Mockingbird is now back, revealed to have been replaced by a Skrull long before her supposed death. But hearing that made me remember Dead Girl's miniseries from a few years ago, where she interacted with a variety of deceased heroes and villains in the afterlife.. among them, you guessed it, Mockingbird. Since the idea of an X-Statix story being played just for laughs and out of continuity is, I'm sure we all agree, ludicrous, it leaves us with a dilemma: who was that Mockingbird? Was the Skrull agent so committed to the cause that he was willing to maintain his cover even in hell? Or is there some other explanation? Whoever comes up with the most creative continuity fix wins, I don't know, the CBR version of a No-Prize, so have at it.

-D

[Affinity]

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I loved this mini-series. It was one of my first, and it made me adore Nick Draggotta.

[mattbib]

With all the alternate realities whose to say they were in the 616 afterlife? It was probably some random other-dimensional Bobbi who had never been kidnaped.

[The Black Guardian]

The end of Secret Invasion got me thinking... apparently Mockingbird is now back, revealed to have been replaced by a Skrull long before her supposed death. But hearing that made me remember Dead Girl's miniseries from a few years ago, where she interacted with a variety of deceased heroes and villains in the afterlife.. among them, you guessed it, Mockingbird. Since the idea of an X-Statix story being played just for laughs and out of continuity is, I'm sure we all agree, ludicrous, it leaves us with a dilemma: who was that Mockingbird? Was the Skrull agent so committed to the cause that he was willing to maintain his cover even in hell? Or is there some other explanation? Whoever comes up with the most creative continuity fix wins, I don't know, the CBR version of a No-Prize, so have at it.
All Afterlifes in the Marvel Multiverse are lies. Bucky was in at least one Legion of the Unliving (encountered in the Afterlife; the story when several Avengers killed themselves in order to travel to the Afterlife, Death herself sent a Legion of the Unliving after them). At the very least, the Afterlifes are all controlled by beings that will lie in order to manipulate other beings. Whether these beings are demons or angels or gods, they all will lie.

Or

The Afterlifes of the Marvel Multiverse lie beyond time, thus therein it is possible to encounter everyone that can ever die.

In any case, encountering people in the Afterlifes is basically meaningless.

[psycwave]

I miss Venus Dee Milo!!!!!!!!

[Petes Pants]

Dead Girl: full of crap?

Hmm...well she's dead so it's possible that following her passing she experienced an elimination which would at least free her from the stigma of being "full of it".

[Flâneur]

The end of Secret Invasion got me thinking... apparently Mockingbird is now back, revealed to have been replaced by a Skrull long before her supposed death. But hearing that made me remember Dead Girl's miniseries from a few years ago, where she interacted with a variety of deceased heroes and villains in the afterlife.. among them, you guessed it, Mockingbird. Since the idea of an X-Statix story being played just for laughs and out of continuity is, I'm sure we all agree, ludicrous, it leaves us with a dilemma: who was that Mockingbird? Was the Skrull agent so committed to the cause that he was willing to maintain his cover even in hell? Or is there some other explanation? Whoever comes up with the most creative continuity fix wins, I don't know, the CBR version of a No-Prize, so have at it.

-D

Mockingbird skrull, like Captain Marvel skrull, went so deep undercover that she truly believed what Mockingbird believed ergo she went to the Hell that Judeo-Christians loosely believe in.

OR

Just as the skrulls were planning to invade the gods in Incredible Hercules, the heavens so to speak, they were also planning to invade the hells. So Mockingbird was simply one of a bunch of agents infiltrating the myriad hells in the MU but with the destruction of the skrull faith, the invasion never went off.

[Prodigy55]

She's certainly not full of life



Bad joke, I know.

[CyberHubbs]

Dead Girl did not enter the afterlife. What she actually accessed is a digitized 'waiting room' within a Skrull supercomuter where personality-codes for are housed before being imprinted on the minds of chosen recruits that would take part in the invasion.

[psycwave]

I officially rename this thread in Dedication to Venus Dee Milo. Where its Venus Dee Milo allday everyday!!!!

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[jarrod]

Was Moira a skrull too? Where was her machine gun?

[Flâneur]

Was Moira a skrull too? Where was her machine gun?

She kept her 'machine gun' in her pants for once.

[Petes Pants]

She kept her 'machine gun' in her pants for once.

Och!!!!!!!

[jarrod]

She kept her 'machine gun' in her pants for once.
I think I saw it poking out the side when she caught sight of Strange.

[Flâneur]

I think I saw it poking out the side when she caught sight of Strange.

Didn't HoM show us that she loves whipping it out for her son?

[jarrod]

Didn't HoM show us that she loves whipping it out for her son?
I missed her in HOM, I'm allergic to Exiles. :frown:

[Flâneur]

I missed her in HOM, I'm allergic to Exiles. :frown:

Not all of Exiles was bad! The Winnick/Austen stuff was great and Bedard had some good issues.

[jarrod]

Not all of Exiles was bad! The Winnick/Austen stuff was great and Bedard had some good issues.
CC almost roped me in by making Moira one of the Death Commandos. Sneaky fucker!


I really should read those Winnick/McKone trades some day...

[Vanish]

Not all of Exiles was bad! The Winnick/Austen stuff was great and Bedard had some good issues.

Namora issues!!!!



I like the explanations given in this thread. They work for me.

Especially Affinity's.

Okay maybe that wasn't an explanation, but moreso a fact that Nick Dragotta rocked in this mini.

And I, too, miss Lady V. Her image was what first attracted me to X-Statix way back when.

I had to find out more from her fabulous Allred design.

[worstblogever]

That Skrull really, really was good at not breaking character, is all I'm sayin'.

[Jay Dogg]

What had happened was...Superboy-Prime's punch extended throughout multiple universes...including Marvel's 616-verse, and the Skrulls saw it as an open opportunity for them to "convert" some to their side. Unfortunately Mockingbird woke up in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Siddon]

I still don't get how a character can die in hell (which is how Mockingbird died in the first place) and heres some continu fu for you Hawkeye did go to hell and try and bring her back but was stuck with Hellcat instead. Obviously its complicated, maybe they will address it.

[Josef F.]

Stop treating it as if Marvel knew what they were doing.
They do not have a 26 year plan.

"We should bring back Mockingbird"
". . .Cool"

[timbox]

Stop treating it as if Marvel knew what they were doing.
They do not have a 26 year plan.

"We should bring back Mockingbird"
". . .Cool"

Stop ruining our fun!
This is for a No-prize.
We're role playing.

You try it, I'll be Dead Girl and you be Mockingbird.

[Seres]

Stop ruining our fun!
This is for a No-prize.
We're role playing.

You try it, I'll be Dead Girl and you be Mockingbird.

Oh, now I see how it is. I'll leave you two to it, then.

[Josef F.]

Stop ruining our fun!
This is for a No-prize.
We're role playing.

You try it, I'll be Dead Girl and you be Mockingbird.

Can I not be Deathbird instead.
*claws your face*

[Flâneur]

Can I not be Deathbird instead.
*claws your face*

She comes nine months after you finish role playing.

[streator]

The end of Secret Invasion got me thinking... apparently Mockingbird is now back, revealed to have been replaced by a Skrull long before her supposed death. But hearing that made me remember Dead Girl's miniseries from a few years ago, where she interacted with a variety of deceased heroes and villains in the afterlife.. among them, you guessed it, Mockingbird. Since the idea of an X-Statix story being played just for laughs and out of continuity is, I'm sure we all agree, ludicrous, it leaves us with a dilemma: who was that Mockingbird? Was the Skrull agent so committed to the cause that he was willing to maintain his cover even in hell? Or is there some other explanation? Whoever comes up with the most creative continuity fix wins, I don't know, the CBR version of a No-Prize, so have at it.

-D

wolverine interacted with colossus in the afterlife shortly after his death (wolverine had died and colossus helped him out in a fight before saying he was at peace or something) and now we're to assume he wasn't dead for long.

the best explanation is that they're ignoring that miniseries and doing something different with the character.

[The Lucky One]

wolverine interacted with colossus in the afterlife shortly after his death (wolverine had died and colossus helped him out in a fight before saying he was at peace or something) and now we're to assume he wasn't dead for long.

Ah, but near-death experiences are different... then you can just claim the person's subconscious made up the whole thing. Dead Girl's mini actually took place in the afterlife. Different situation. :smile:

[The Fury]

Ah, but near-death experiences are different... then you can just claim the person's subconscious made up the whole thing. Dead Girl's mini actually took place in the afterlife. Different situation. :smile:

You are right and it doesn't make sense, basically what it means is that there were 3 Mockingbirds, 2 of them being Skrulls, one that died (yet didn't revert to Skrull form), one that was kidnapped, and one that appeared in the Mini when the ship of Skrulls thinking they were the real deals landed. Why send the last one if she was already dead? Why revive her at the end as that makes even less sense?

Annoying thing though is we are going to have to accept the Secret Invasion version as real and not Dead Girl even though that story was better.

[SlightlyMad]

I wouldn't say that Dead Girl's full of crap, worms & maggots maybe, but crap, no.

[Phoenix_Force]

You know, when I pointed this out two months ago in the Secret Invasion thread over on the Avengers board, I was laughed at and told not to be such a continuity snob . . .