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01-06-2009, 05:40 PM
Mike Carey answers your questions about Professor X, Rogue and
Gambit’s ongoing relationship drama, and hints about these characters' futurees
in an all-new X-POSITION. Plus exclusive art from "X-Men: Legacy"
#220.
Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19424).
darknessatnoon
01-06-2009, 05:50 PM
“The journey is the reward.” --Chinese proverb
LOL
Confucius say, 'Read X-Men: Legacy. All human wisdom contained therein."
.LuckyStar.
01-06-2009, 05:53 PM
LOL
2) Will the title that follows after “X-Men: Legacy” still revolve around one character?
Yes. But with a very full and rich supporting cast!
Meh.
Vanish
01-06-2009, 05:53 PM
Scanner is someone who Professor X might already have visited, in between the events of the “Legacy” arcs. We haven’t seen every moment of his journey, or every interaction he has along the way that falls under the heading of “unfinished business.” The parallel with Rogue is an interesting one. Of course, Professor X no longer leads the X-Men, and in any case Scanner no longer has her powers, so the most obvious way of making restitution to her – if Professor X felt that it was due – [....]. But it’s true that he refused to help her turn her life around in the way that he helped Rogue. There’s certainly an untold story there, begging to be written.
It will BE!
Gah! I wish it could've been told. D-List month has put me in a full blown Acolytes mood and Professor X chose the worse case to turn down as far as reformed villains are concerned.
Kid Icarus
01-06-2009, 05:56 PM
It will BE!
Gah! I wish it could've been told. D-List month has put me in a full blown Acolytes mood and Professor X chose the worse case to turn down as far as reformed villains are concerned.
vanish
who do you think the book will revolve around PL?
Vanish
01-06-2009, 06:03 PM
vanish
who do you think the book will revolve around PL?
Rogue, Daken, or Magneto MAYBE.
I dunno.
I pulled those names out of my bee hole.
I'm kinda disappointed. Rogue's solo turned me off to solo books because it seems like they struggle to find something to tell that's new and different so they try to mix up the character's origins.
It worked for Emma imo but not for Rogue.
I'm still excited! I refuse to be pessimistic about this and I hope the concept intrigues me more than XM:L.
Vanish
01-06-2009, 06:08 PM
I disagree with most Rogue fans.
No Ms. Marvel powers
No Gambit
Pretty please? <3
The Ms. Marvel powers returning would be such a regression and she's a lot more fun randomly touching people unconscious so she can blast the hell out of rogue pet store creatures.
I don't see how either of those previous, chronic illnesses of her life returning could be considered fresh after a good period of them finally being absent.
claimtosubclaim
01-06-2009, 06:22 PM
I'm thinking the main character will either be Rogue or Beast, one who is already not with the X-Men, another who seems on the brink of splitting from them, and both favorites of Carey's.
Hi-Fi
01-06-2009, 06:24 PM
Fugly costume, Roguey. But you know, yay Rogue.
beserkerclaw
01-06-2009, 06:30 PM
can anyone tell me what this Gambit:Origin is and where it was first mentioned?
LOL
Meh.
Y'know before Legacy launched and the details of the title were revealed he said something along the lines of........ "It stars one character but with the entire x-universe as a supporting cast"
Whatever!
I'm going to miss Bachalo's Rogue.
Fugly costume, Roguey. But you know, yay Rogue.
I know it! I've never been a fan of Lee's design especially revised ones, wtf bring back the hoodie, or the super sexy one black/green one piece! Suki suki. <3
Grunty
01-06-2009, 06:44 PM
I disagree with most Rogue fans.
No Ms. Marvel powers
No Gambit
Pretty please? <3
The Ms. Marvel powers returning would be such a regression and she's a lot more fun randomly touching people unconscious so she can blast the hell out of rogue pet store creatures.
I don't see how either of those previous, chronic illnesses of her life returning could be considered fresh after a good period of them finally being absent.
I never got what's the deal of so many fans is with always wishing for Rogue to get her "Miss Marvel" powers back?
Remember when Evolution started lot's people complained that Rogue didn't had those powers. But i couldn't understand it.
Actualy i never liked it. I started reading X-men at the late 90's so in theory i should be used to them, but instead i always found Rogue's original mutation far more intresting and i think that the Miss Marvel powers just turned her into a supergirl clone.
So she became like a all purpose super character instead of using her creativly in fights.
I prefer it when she can only temporaly use powers she absorbed. It also builds up a certain trust situation with her team mates (by letting her absorb a little bit of their energy to give her an advantage in fight). Being able to temporaly restore powers she once absorbed is also okay in my book.
But not permanent super girl powers.
So here is another one who wishes: "Please don't give Rogue Miss Marvel powers again!"
Joe Franklin
01-06-2009, 06:59 PM
I think it will still revolve around boring Xavier forever.
For some reason, Marvel refuses to get rid of Xavier?:confused:
Even Carey's awesome scripting can't make him very interesting.
claimtosubclaim
01-06-2009, 07:16 PM
Carey has already said that Xavier will become a more peripheral cast member. It's likely that whatever "plan" is enacted after Salvage, Xavier will be the brain behind it, but Rogue will be the core character.
Omega Alpha
01-06-2009, 07:37 PM
I'm thinking the main character will either be Rogue or Beast, one who is already not with the X-Men, another who seems on the brink of splitting from them, and both favorites of Carey's.
Hank "on the brink of splitting from the X-men" is pure fanwank. For one thing, we know he's in AXM, and Ellis will be there for at least another 21 issues, which, with his and Bianchi's speed, will be only sometime in 2011 (and even that is a little optimistic).
And second, Beast not too long ago was willing to make deals with Nazi scientists to get some progress with his experiences and attemps to restore mutankind, so him splitting because he dislikes that X-force has been sent to eliminate babykillers who will murder every single X-man and student if they have the chance would be quite hypocritical.
I think it will still revolve around boring Xavier forever.
For some reason, Marvel refuses to get rid of Xavier?:confused:
.
Well, they had Spider-Man make a deal with Mephisto to save Aunt May, so they must have a fondness for old people who shouldn't be around anymore.
And what's up with the Skrull Dum-Dum in Legacy (in the first preview page)?
ProfeZZor X
01-06-2009, 08:16 PM
I'm so burnt out on the tumultuous Rogue/Gambit relationship... I'm surprised no one asked what Carey though of to put her with someone else, like Cannonball, Iceman, or any other guy she's been close to at some point in her career. If Scott can move on, so can she... :frown:
Vanish
01-06-2009, 10:17 PM
Fugly costume, Roguey. But you know, yay Rogue.
OMFG HI-FI SIGHTING WHILE I WAS GONE.
ARE YOU MY SOCKPUPPET ACCOUNT???
I know it! I've never been a fan of Lee's design especially revised ones, wtf bring back the hoodie, or the super sexy one black/green one piece! Suki suki. <3
YES. All her green and black/white costumes are the best. I don't like how Eaton(?) draws her in the previews unless those are all flashbacks from the 80's and 90's. The hair and outfit work together to form an untimely tragedy.
I never got what's the deal of so many fans is with always wishing for Rogue to get her "Miss Marvel" powers back?
Remember when Evolution started lot's people complained that Rogue didn't had those powers. But i couldn't understand it.
Actualy i never liked it. I started reading X-men at the late 90's so in theory i should be used to them, but instead i always found Rogue's original mutation far more intresting and i think that the Miss Marvel powers just turned her into a supergirl clone.
So she became like a all purpose super character instead of using her creativly in fights.
I prefer it when she can only temporaly use powers she absorbed. It also builds up a certain trust situation with her team mates (by letting her absorb a little bit of their energy to give her an advantage in fight). Being able to temporaly restore powers she once absorbed is also okay in my book.
But not permanent super girl powers.
So here is another one who wishes: "Please don't give Rogue Miss Marvel powers again!"
Yay, Grunty!
MarrowLove4Lyfe!
Yeah, there is definitely something risquéabout her abilities. She could be like a telepath but with much more dire consequences; she could be a moochful teammate who takes on her teammates abilities when its necessary.
If you want a brawler...M should be her teammate and the two can hold hands a share every now and then. :D
Carey has already said that Xavier will become a more peripheral cast member. It's likely that whatever "plan" is enacted after Salvage, Xavier will be the brain behind it, but Rogue will be the core character.
I'd prefer that.
I don't think Professor X needs to go away, but he doesn't work as a central character at all. There are very few X-Characters I can see as solo characters--and Charlie ain't one of them. Hell, I'm not even interested in a Wolvie solo or even a Monet ongoing. So it was an uphill battle to gain my interest as a fan from the beginning.
Alas, poor Scanner!
It was better than I could hope for!
But you would think Exodus would either want to find a way to help her or...DESTROY HER.
There is story potential there, people!
PaStella
01-07-2009, 05:07 AM
Costume is meh. Just look at her Hulk sized hands on the first panel she is in. They're bigger than her hips.
Mr_Hellfire
01-07-2009, 05:19 AM
Carey is wonderful and I'm considering buying this arc, but I think mentioning Gambit almost trying to kill Rogue as a factor as to why there's going to be tension is lame. If X-Men were a more stable universe, then I'd understand, but Emma's always trying to kill Scott or vise versa and BP is trying to kill Storm right now and they're all influenced or possessed. I just feel that in a place where someone is trying to kill their teammates every other week that that is just ignored after awhile.
I just hope Gambit is flirtatious and Rogue does that whole hard to get thing without being "I hate you and that's it!" It'd be nice to have a cute moment.
And I'm a bit bum city about Rogue's position. More psychological crisis and MORE of a different place to be that's likely still not good. I want stable Rogue back who is capable of leading a team and all that jazz. She was wonderful as a team leader.
It was better than I could hope for!
But you would think Exodus would either want to find a way to help her or...DESTROY HER.
There is story potential there, people!
Maybe she should hook up with the High Evolutionary?
Costume is meh. Just look at her Hulk sized hands on the first panel she is in. They're bigger than her hips.
Man hands on a woman? :rolleyes:
AcesX1X
01-07-2009, 06:56 AM
rogue needs to change those threads with a quickness.
greenshoes713
01-07-2009, 06:57 AM
The Ms. Marvel powers are so overrated.
Flâneur
01-07-2009, 07:11 AM
I disagree with most Rogue fans.
No Ms. Marvel powers
No Gambit
Pretty please? <3
The Ms. Marvel powers returning would be such a regression and she's a lot more fun randomly touching people unconscious so she can blast the hell out of rogue pet store creatures.
I don't see how either of those previous, chronic illnesses of her life returning could be considered fresh after a good period of them finally being absent.
AgreeAgreeAgreeAgreeAgreeAgree
No more Rombit; Pulse/Rogue plz.
No more Carol powers; more of the touchy feely! The super strength/flight powers are so old news and generic, the psych aspect of Rogue's touch makes it more interesting, especially if they explore it rather than invoking random angst. Plus, they can get some cool visuals with the touch powers (e.g the Cyke/Emma thing)
timbox
01-07-2009, 07:12 AM
I like the yellow chaps. She's in the outback, you know.
streator
01-07-2009, 07:44 AM
As for the human minds that Rogue had “borrowed” from, my guess is that the memories that were taken from her mind were actually erased, not repatriated. The original owners probably won’t be getting them back. That’s only a guess though; the messiah child’s powers haven’t been fully revealed yet.
this makes me think that the messiah child will be restoring ex-mutants powers. i don't see why he would bring her up out of nowhere otherwise.
also, more gambit sounds good to me.
Count me in the minority, I am so bored by Rogue without being able to throw tanks and stand up to heavy hitters. I hate that any human could just shoot her dead.
Give me all out action junkie super Rogue. Please.
timbox
01-07-2009, 07:53 AM
Count me in the minority, I am so bored by Rogue without being able to throw tanks and stand up to heavy hitters. I hate that any human could just shoot her dead.
Give me all out action junkie super Rogue. Please.
I agree, she is terrible without Wolverine's claws.
AcesX1X
01-07-2009, 08:16 AM
I like the yellow chaps. She's in the outback, you know.
you just like the aluminum kneepads, timbox.
MartinRedmond
01-07-2009, 08:26 AM
Pulse? Why would any fan want Rogue to get into an arranged marriage? :confused:
darknessatnoon
01-07-2009, 08:28 AM
Pulse? Why would any fan want Rogue to get into an arranged marriage? :confused:
Because they are attracted to one another. Plus, Mystique is always right. She wouldn't have introduced them if she didn't already know they were destined for one another.
f4faith
01-07-2009, 08:39 AM
Carey is wonderful and I'm considering buying this arc, but I think mentioning Gambit almost trying to kill Rogue as a factor as to why there's going to be tension is lame. If X-Men were a more stable universe, then I'd understand, but Emma's always trying to kill Scott or vise versa and BP is trying to kill Storm right now and they're all influenced or possessed. I just feel that in a place where someone is trying to kill their teammates every other week that that is just ignored after awhile.
I just hope Gambit is flirtatious and Rogue does that whole hard to get thing without being "I hate you and that's it!" It'd be nice to have a cute moment.
And I'm a bit bum city about Rogue's position. More psychological crisis and MORE of a different place to be that's likely still not good. I want stable Rogue back who is capable of leading a team and all that jazz. She was wonderful as a team leader.
I agree with everyone of your sentiments above although I think Rogue COULD be wonderful as team leader is a better statement. So far I don't think we've seen her in a good place for it. Her team being so full of obvious characters that were going to take it down hurt her ability to shine. Rogue needs to shine as do Gambit and Xavier and a number of others I can think of. I'm sick to death of everyone looking like screw-ups or being messed up. I want a serious counter-balance to Cyclop's version of how to handle the mutant situation and I want it be given valid points.
Count me in the minority, I am so bored by Rogue without being able to throw tanks and stand up to heavy hitters.
Give me all out action junkie super Rogue. Please.
You are not the only one or a suspect that much a minority. Rogue had the Ms. Marvel powers pretty much since her inception so I have no issue with her getting them or something similar back. I do think there is only a limited amount you can do with her original power unless you change it. Not to say it should not be used - it should and creatively but I see it as mostly a defensive power not an offensive one and I like Rogue out there in a scrap.
I will say I think it is a mistake to keep this book centered on only one character. It has not helped the book so far at all and there are plenty of characters needing to be used to make up a decent multi-character book.
Because they are attracted to one another. Plus, Mystique is always right. She wouldn't have introduced them if she didn't already know they were destined for one another.
Milligan created him in one of the worse X-Men stories written. I don't think anything was "right" about that story including the Gary Stu called Pulse. He's a character that deserves limbo and heckling not justification.
I agree, she is terrible without Wolverine's claws.
Actually I was talking about how she need Armor or Pxies' super cool powahs..that girl shouldn't be the only Dr Reyes knock-off right? Wolvie already has plenty of those.
darknessatnoon
01-07-2009, 09:04 AM
Actually I was talking about how she need Armor or Pxies' super cool powahs..that girl shouldn't be the only Dr Reyes knock-off right? Wolvie already has plenty of those.
Cecilia Reyes is not super-strong whereas Armour is.
MartinRedmond
01-07-2009, 09:06 AM
:smile: I think Rogue likes her men to be a bit more aggressive and straightforward or she'd have banged Iceman in X-Men issues w/e published 1995, especially that issue where he keeps "unloading" his "ice" at her (X-Men Vol2 #45) yet she keeps running away cause she doesn't like being the lead in bed. Pulse looks like a bit of a pansy and as such not Rogue's type. :confused:
Seikun21
01-07-2009, 09:07 AM
Actually I was talking about how she need Armor or Pxies' super cool powahs..that girl shouldn't be the only Dr Reyes knock-off right? Wolvie already has plenty of those.
If she touched Pixie wouldn't she just get pink hallucigenic dust and black eyes? And maybe fairy wings. Pixie's magic comes from a hole in her soul, Rogue can't copy that. Can she?
MartinRedmond
01-07-2009, 09:08 AM
If she touched Pixie wouldn't she just get pink hallucigenic dust and black eyes? And maybe fairy wings. Pixie's magic comes from a hole in her soul, Rogue can't copy that. Can she?
I think Pixie's psyche would overcome Rogue's.
Shaid O Gray
01-07-2009, 10:14 AM
I agree with everyone of your sentiments above although I think Rogue COULD be wonderful as team leader is a better statement. So far I don't think we've seen her in a good place for it. Her team being so full of obvious characters that were going to take it down hurt her ability to shine. Rogue needs to shine as do Gambit and Xavier and a number of others I can think of. I'm sick to death of everyone looking like screw-ups or being messed up. I want a serious counter-balance to Cyclop's version of how to handle the mutant situation and I want it be given valid points.
I think Rogue as team leader did a fine job both times. First time around the whole story arc/period was unfortunately kinda crappy, and I agree the second time she was in a bad place. I still refuse to place blame at her feet though (except for Creed, that was not a good idea) Mystique, Regan, Karima turning on the X-Men would have happened anyway, and it was Scott and Emma who let them in the door.
I really agree with you on Rogue balancing out Scott with her style. The mainstream X-books miss the wild cards right now. All they have is Logan.
You are not the only one or a suspect that much a minority. Rogue had the Ms. Marvel powers pretty much since her inception so I have no issue with her getting them or something similar back. I do think there is only a limited amount you can do with her original power unless you change it. Not to say it should not be used - it should and creatively but I see it as mostly a defensive power not an offensive one and I like Rogue out there in a scrap.
Once again I agree. I loved her with her Ms Marvel powers. Her natural power was still interesting (because she still had it too obviously) but when she ONLY has her skin power it's just....I don't know... Her running around the battlefield going 'Who can I touch? Who can I touch?" has gotten a little old for me. She's a natural scrapper, and they should find a way for her to be one.
I will say I think it is a mistake to keep this book centered on only one character. It has not helped the book so far at all and there are plenty of characters needing to be used to make up a decent multi-character book.
I think when Charles ran into Gambit the first time, he should've tagged along. They could've built an ensamble cast that way. Charles on his own can only sustain a book for so long.
There seem to be differeing ruomors and opinions on where either he or Rogue or Gambit are going next. Staying with Legay? Moving to Uncanny?
Milligan created him in one of the worse X-Men stories written. I don't think anything was "right" about that story including the Gary Stu called Pulse. He's a character that deserves limbo and heckling not justification.
I second that! That whole arc was 'bizarro X-men' or something. Mystique doing that was ludicrous and Rogue actually starting to get chummy with the guy was nothing sort of insuting to her as a character. Feelthy! Ptueey. Let us speak of it no more.
I get the impression that Carey is neither going to end nor restore the Gambit/Rogue relationship. Maybe they're trying to please both the lovers and the haters of that ship, but I'm not sure that's going to work. You usually wind up ticking everyone off. I don't know, what he desribes gives me a bit of a 'piss or get off the pot' feeling where that is concerned. Thoughts?
Vanish
01-07-2009, 03:09 PM
AgreeAgreeAgreeAgreeAgreeAgree
No more Rombit; Pulse/Rogue plz.
No more Carol powers; more of the touchy feely! The super strength/flight powers are so old news and generic, the psych aspect of Rogue's touch makes it more interesting, especially if they explore it rather than invoking random angst. Plus, they can get some cool visuals with the touch powers (e.g the Cyke/Emma thing)
!!!!!!
Pulse? Why would any fan want Rogue to get into an arranged marriage? :confused:
Because they are attracted to one another. Plus, Mystique is always right. She wouldn't have introduced them if she didn't already know they were destined for one another.
Correct.
Despite it being arranged, there was an attraction. Bad timing killed it for Pulsey.
Muggs
01-07-2009, 05:12 PM
!!!!!!
Correct.
Despite it being arranged, there was an attraction. Bad timing killed it for Pulsey.
Being shit killed it for Pulse.
I like Rogue and Gambit. But Romy sucks! Both of them need to do new shit that doesn't involve each other and re-establish their characters independent of each other.
darknessatnoon
01-07-2009, 06:49 PM
Being shit killed it for Pulse.
There's no need to be rude to her just because you have terrible opinions.
Omega Alpha
01-07-2009, 07:16 PM
There's no need to be rude to her just because you have terrible opinions.
It's not his opinion, nor terrible. Pulse being a worthless piece of trash, just like all Milligan's run, it's not an opinion, but a scientifically proven fact.
darknessatnoon
01-07-2009, 07:17 PM
It's not his opinion, nor terrible. Pulse being a worthless piece of trash, just like all Milligan's run, it's not an opinion, but a scientifically proven fact.
Werner Herzog was a terrible film-maker who owes his entire career only to Klaus Kinksi. He's a parasite.
Omega Alpha
01-07-2009, 07:32 PM
Werner Herzog was a terrible film-maker who owes his entire career only to Klaus Kinksi. He's a parasite.
Kinski is dead, Herzog lives on. Therefore, Herzog wins. In fact, he had his gun at Kinski's head once, but let him live out of pity. Therefore, it's safe to say Herzog owned Kinski, not the other way around. Even because he could have still worked with that mentally challenged guy from Kaspar Hauser and Strozek, or with documentaries only. There, you are, once again, WRONG :tongue:
And anyone that has Storm as avatar clearly can't be taken seriously.:biggrin:
darknessatnoon
01-07-2009, 07:37 PM
Kinski is dead, Herzog lives on. Therefore, Herzog wins. In fact, he had his gun at Kinski's head once, but let him live out of pity. Therefore, it's safe to say Herzog owned Kinski, not the other way around. Even because he could have still worked with that mentally challenged guy from Kaspar Hauser and Strozek, or with documentaries only. There, you are, once again, WRONG :tongue:
And anyone that has Storm as avatar clearly can't be taken seriously.:biggrin:
Herzog lived on to make schlock docudramas about "finding" the Loch Ness Monster. I'd rather be dead.
Kinski on Herzog:
[Herzog] just keeps talking and talking and talking ... His speech is clumsy, with a toadlike indolence, long-winded, pedantic, choppy. The words tumble from his mouth in sentence fragments, which he holds back as much as possible, as if they were earning interest. It takes forever and a day for him to push out a clump of hardened brain-snot. Then he writhes in painful ecstasy, as if he had sugar on his rotten teeth ... Even if his throat were cut and his head were chopped off, speech balloons would still dangle from his mouth like gases emitted by internal decay...
and ...
Herzog is a miserable, hateful, malevolent, avaricious, money-hungry, nasty, sadistic, treacherous, cowardly creep. His so-called 'talent' consists of nothing but tormenting helpless creatures and, if necessary, torturing them to death or simply murdering them. He doesn't care about anyone or anything except his wretched career as a so-called filmmaker ... For his movies, he hires retards and amateurs who he can push around (and allegedly hypnotize!), and he pays them starvation wages or zilch. He also uses freaks and cripples of every conceivable size and shape, merely to look interesting. He doesn't have the foggiest inkling of how to make movies.
Shaid O Gray
01-07-2009, 10:33 PM
Just out of curiosity, how did this thread become a grudgematch between Kinski and Herzog followers??
Not that it's not entertaining, mind you....:biggrin:
jarrod
01-07-2009, 11:04 PM
It will BE!
Gah! I wish it could've been told. D-List month has put me in a full blown Acolytes mood and Professor X chose the worse case to turn down as far as reformed villains are concerned.
IIRC, the original plan for Legacy involved Xavier leading the Acolytes.
I'm thinking the main character will either be Rogue or Beast, one who is already not with the X-Men, another who seems on the brink of splitting from them, and both favorites of Carey's.
Gee, now which fuzzy blue X-man happens to be on the brink of leaving San Fran...
plz plz plz
Vanish
01-07-2009, 11:26 PM
IIRC, the original plan for Legacy involved Xavier leading the Acolytes.
WHAT???
This change in plan upsets me, to say the least.
I may have to take a breathing break.
claimtosubclaim
01-08-2009, 01:02 AM
IIRC, the original plan for Legacy involved Xavier leading the Acolytes.
Gee, now which fuzzy blue X-man happens to be on the brink of leaving San Fran...
plz plz plz
I am of belief that Nightcrawler is actually headed for Detroit and X-Factor. PAD has stated in interviews --or at least one interview; the livewireworld one-- that he'd love to use Nightcrawler. And how else is he going to drastically increase sales on his book like he said in his newsarama "interview"?
Scavenger
01-08-2009, 05:52 PM
Count me in the minority, I am so bored by Rogue without being able to throw tanks and stand up to heavy hitters. I hate that any human could just shoot her dead. .
I agree. Rogue used to be one of the most powerful X-Men, male or female. But just like most female characters, they either get depowered or stuffed in a fridge.
just another user
01-08-2009, 06:10 PM
IIRC, the original plan for Legacy involved Xavier leading the Acolytes.
Crikey, missed opportunity.
What I would do with Rogue
Ms Marvel powerset all the time
Bachalo costume
No more Gambit
Pulse! (or new love interest, some Brazillian character called Victor, might work)
Hi-Fi
01-08-2009, 06:14 PM
(or new love interest, some Brazillian character called Victor, might work)
I like this.
just another user
01-08-2009, 06:18 PM
I like this.
What about my other rock solid suggestions?
Hi-Fi
01-08-2009, 06:21 PM
What about my other rock solid suggestions?
They're hot.
Michael P
01-08-2009, 06:21 PM
Here's a novel idea: How about Carey writes the story he wants, with the characters he wants, in the manner that he wants, and we read it and judge it on its own merits, instead of on its congruence with our personal arbitrary character fetishes?
Hi-Fi
01-08-2009, 06:23 PM
Here's a novel idea: How about Carey writes the story he wants, with the characters he wants, in the manner that he wants, and we read it and judge it on its own merits, instead of on its congruence with our personal arbitrary character fetishes?
Great as well, but considering that Legacy was an editorial mandated book, I think suggesting that Rogue is THE character Carey wants to write about is spot on. Nothing wrong in speculating about her fate.
darknessatnoon
01-08-2009, 06:23 PM
Here's a novel idea: How about Carey writes the story he wants, with the characters he wants, in the manner that he wants, and we read it and judge it on its own merits, instead of on its congruence with our personal arbitrary character fetishes?
That's a stupid idea. This isn't high modernist art. It's commercial art and Carey should and will bend to our whims. See you in YABS, Michael!
Vanish
01-08-2009, 06:31 PM
Here's a novel idea: How about Carey writes the story he wants, with the characters he wants, in the manner that he wants, and we read it and judge it on its own merits, instead of on its congruence with our personal arbitrary character fetishes?
LOL lighten up.
Hi-Fi
01-08-2009, 06:33 PM
LOL lighten up.
Now that would be novel.
Red Lotus
01-08-2009, 08:25 PM
I wish the book would revolve around Gambit. But since the Origin book is coming out i doubt that.
can anyone tell me what this Gambit:Origin is and where it was first mentioned?
A lot of Gambit past has always been pretty much unknown. But if you want to point to one thing. There was a line from an arc by a writer who name shall not be mentioned. The line was Apocalypse telling Gambit that with his heritage Gambit should be leading the X-men.
Some people took that line and asked Mike Carey over and over and over when we would find out what that meant.
sorry Mike.
Omega Alpha
01-08-2009, 08:36 PM
Just out of curiosity, how did this thread become a grudgematch between Kinski and Herzog followers??
Not that it's not entertaining, mind you....:biggrin:
This is CBR. We never know how threads will end up; all we know is that most likely it won't make any sense.
Joe Franklin
01-08-2009, 09:48 PM
This is CBR. We never know how threads will end up; all we know is that most likely it won't make any sense.
Quoted for the truth.:biggrin:
Lobsterdom
01-09-2009, 04:35 AM
Is that good old Dum-Dum on the preview page?!
What's he doing in Legacy?? Now I have to buy this.:biggrin:
sneggz
01-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Just read this on My Cup O Joe:
Careless Drifter wants to know:
I'm dying to know what's being planned on Mike Carey's X-Men: Legacy book after the Xavier-centric story arc ends.Is it going back to a team book as usual? Are some of the characters he's using going to finally head to San Francisco? Can you give us anything on that yet?
JQ: Nope! Sorry, Careless Drifter. We’re close to announcing it, but you’ll have to bide your time. But I’ll give you a hint.All the characters will look as old as they’re supposed to.
Anyone wanna take a crack at that?
Omega Alpha
01-09-2009, 09:34 PM
Just read this on My Cup O Joe:
Anyone wanna take a crack at that?
I have no idea:confused:
Canemacar
01-09-2009, 11:21 PM
Perhaps it will focus on Xavier and Megneto, the people who are now faced with the possibility of being obsolete.
darknessatnoon
01-09-2009, 11:31 PM
Perhaps it will focus on Xavier and Megneto, the people who are now faced with the possibility of being obsolete.
That's a very poetic reading of it, actually. I like it. I mean, I don't want it to be about Xavier and Magneto, but I do like your interpretation of the teaser.
otipep_90
01-10-2009, 12:05 AM
Just read this on My Cup O Joe:
Anyone wanna take a crack at that?
I'm still in the camp that say Mike is going to be turning X-Men: Legacy into the next new mutant/generation-x/new x-men type book. Its going to be Xavier and Rogue teaching the last generation of x-men who will oppose Scott's new reign. Xavier and Rogue are going to be the main characters with the x-kids as the rotating cast.
This should lead into a civil war amongst the x-men on what the Messiah Baby's path will be.
And the empty slot that young x-men's cancelation will leave, will be filled by the new New Mutant ongoing. The only reason Young X-Men is being cancelled is because having Legacy and Young X-Men focus on the last generation of x-men would be redunctant. New Exiles is not even getting cancelled also, it is going to be relunched again with Blink, if you all have seen the exile cover on deviant. Looks like we are going to have another small reload in the x-titles
otipep_90
01-10-2009, 12:13 AM
I wish the book would revolve around Gambit. But since the Origin book is coming out i doubt that.
A lot of Gambit past has always been pretty much unknown. But if you want to point to one thing. There was a line from an arc by a writer who name shall not be mentioned. The line was Apocalypse telling Gambit that with his heritage Gambit should be leading the X-men.
Some people took that line and asked Mike Carey over and over and over when we would find out what that meant.
sorry Mike.
Red Lotus is this a one-shot, mini, or ongoing?
Naira K
01-10-2009, 11:00 AM
I'm still in the camp that say Mike is going to be turning X-Men: Legacy into the next new mutant/generation-x/new x-men type book. Its going to be Xavier and Rogue teaching the last generation of x-men who will oppose Scott's new reign. Xavier and Rogue are going to be the main characters with the x-kids as the rotating cast.
This should lead into a civil war amongst the x-men on what the Messiah Baby's path will be.
That would be nice. :biggrin: I hope for it to become a team book soon, I miss having Rogue in a team. AND I think she's a brilliant team leader. :tongue:
Canemacar
01-10-2009, 03:58 PM
Red Lotus is this a one-shot, mini, or ongoing?
I imagine it will be a one-shot just like the Beast: Origin he did earlier this year.
Kalen O.
01-10-2009, 04:02 PM
I would assume that Cup O Joe line means the book will be focusing on the younger generation, the New X-Men/Young X-Men crowd. The line was 'everyone will look as old as they're supposed to be' right? And what's the most commonly cited complaint art wise when it comes to the Academy X kids? 'They don't look like teenagers.' Anole, Pixie, Hellion......pretty much every book with those characters has had that cited at some point or another, so the first thing I thought of was that Quesada was poking at that, and saying the book's going to be about the teen mutants.
otipep_90
01-10-2009, 04:39 PM
I imagine it will be a one-shot just like the Beast: Origin he did earlier this year.
Thanks Canemacar, thats what I figured but since it was the first time I have heard of it I just wanted to check. Say they should really collect these x-men origin issues into tpbs, I would definitely buy them.
So far that I know, we've had:
Colossus
Jean
Beast
And Wolverine if I'm not wrong
Soon we'll have Sabertooth and Gambit
They should have one tpb for each class, a la O5(with Sage), All-New-All-Different, etc.
I would assume that Cup O Joe line means the book will be focusing on the younger generation, the New X-Men/Young X-Men crowd. The line was 'everyone will look as old as they're supposed to be' right? And what's the most commonly cited complaint art wise when it comes to the Academy X kids? 'They don't look like teenagers.' Anole, Pixie, Hellion......pretty much every book with those characters has had that cited at some point or another, so the first thing I thought of was that Quesada was poking at that, and saying the book's going to be about the teen mutants.
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Yeah that was my first instinct too, and under Mike Carey's pen theere is no better place for them to be.
I would assume that Cup O Joe line means the book will be focusing on the younger generation, the New X-Men/Young X-Men crowd. The line was 'everyone will look as old as they're supposed to be' right? And what's the most commonly cited complaint art wise when it comes to the Academy X kids? 'They don't look like teenagers.' Anole, Pixie, Hellion......pretty much every book with those characters has had that cited at some point or another, so the first thing I thought of was that Quesada was poking at that, and saying the book's going to be about the teen mutants.
Orr maybe that some of the older characters will actually look old?
ProfeZZor X
03-18-2009, 02:11 PM
Seriously, is January really the last time an X-Position has been done on Mike Carey?...WTF.
It just seems like there are too many books out there right now that people are bitching about the writers, that everyone has seemingly forgotten about MC. Or at the very least, it would appear that he's been out of the spotlight for some time now. Are people just not that interested in him anymore, or has his "Legacy" run ruined people's image of him being a near perfect X-Men writer? I remember a while back that it seemed like every week someone was doing an interview with him... And here we are in the late part of March, with his last interview almost three months ago.
His website is a little too confusing (or boring) to get through, so I guess we'll have to wait until CBR or someone else does an update on what he's up to or plans on doing.. both with story and with characters he's using.
RickyD410
03-18-2009, 03:02 PM
Seriously, is January really the last time an X-Position has been done on Mike Carey?...WTF.
It just seems like there are too many books out there right now that people are bitching about the writers, that everyone has seemingly forgotten about MC. Or at the very least, it would appear that he's been out of the spotlight for some time now. Are people just not that interested in him anymore, or has his "Legacy" run ruined people's image of him being a near perfect X-Men writer? I remember a while back that it seemed like every week someone was doing an interview with him... And here we are in the late part of March, with his last interview almost three months ago.
His website is a little too confusing (or boring) to get through, so I guess we'll have to wait until CBR or someone else does an update on what he's up to or plans on doing.. both with story and with characters he's using.
My guess is that as Legacy ends, we'll get one about what his next project is.
I think the X-Positions really should only be kept with the main X-Titles. I mean, we've gotten X-Positions about Wolverine one-shots. Whats so special about those? They never actually add anything to his character, and we have about 3 each week.
rojash
03-18-2009, 08:19 PM
Are people just not that interested in him anymore, or has his "Legacy" run ruined people's image of him being a near perfect X-Men writer?
I think people are maybe a little... disenchanted with some aspects of Legacy, but I am still 100% behind the fact that he is one of the best writers to have written an X-Book ever.
RickyD410
03-18-2009, 08:32 PM
I think people are maybe a little... disenchanted with some aspects of Legacy, but I am still 100% behind the fact that he is one of the best writers to have written an X-Book ever.
Ditto. I dropped Legacy because it just stopped to interest me enough to spend money on it, when I'm so poor right now. And since I have not been around for so much X-History, a lot of its novelty was lost on me. But Carey's X-Men run remains one of my favorites. I absolutely loved everything about it. I mean, Carey practically dictated Messiah CompleX. It all played out in his book. I definitely recall when everyone wanted Carey to be the next Uncanny writer.
I cant wait to see where Carey takes X-Men after Legacy. I'm hoping for another team book!
ProfeZZor X
03-18-2009, 10:47 PM
Truth be told, I haven't touched Legacy since it came out... I'm all for writers expressing their creative genius, but Mike's brand of psycho thriller style doesn't seem to work with an X-book, I'm sorry to say.
I'm really hoping he goes back to a team book, but maybe combine the two styles that would appeal to fans, but make it slightly different enough that he still has that creative vision and style he wants to go with... I like the guy and all, but damn, there are so many X-books falling apart these days and so many characters falling into obscurity or worse, that Marvel may want to rethink it's strategy before they shoot themselves in the other foot.
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