X-Title Awards 2008 - The 'I Have Suffered' Award

[The Sword Is Drawn]

And so we reach what should probably be considered the most fanboy category of these award. The I Have Suffered award is an award for the one character you, as a fan, feel has been made to suffer the most, not been given a chance to shine, or just plain didn't get what you would consider to be a fair deal, during 2008.

Nominations wise there were four clear candidates here, and three characters who all tied for the fifth slot in the poll. So, there's a grand total of seven put-upon options for you to pick from. They are:

Kurt Wagner (Nightcrawler) : There was a time where Kurt was leading his own team, sure of his own ability, and a valued member of any squad he associated with. Not any more. One poster referred, in the nominations thread, to Kurt having become 'Fuzzy Blue Wallpaper'. And in many ways he has. Practically relegated to team clergyman (As is always fallen back on when writers run out of ideas), and feeling as if Pixie's newly granted teleportation has made him redundant, Kurt is possibly soon to be leaving the X-Men. His swash is no longer allowed to buckle, and he hasn't had a chance to charm anybody in far too long. Poor fuzzy elf.

Poitr Rasputin (Colossus) : Another member of the all-new all-different team to have suffered this year. Often accused of only being given anything to say or do when Kitty was directly in his vicinity, Poitr then suffered the blow of losing his darling Katya, and finding an X-Men team unwilling to help him find his sister in Limbo. Half the year he had nothing to do. The other half he wouldn't do very much because he was grieving. Now that's suffering for you.

Kitty Pryde (Shadowcat) : What more need I say. She's dead. Only she's not. Only she is. Only she's floating in a giant phasing bullet in space. So she's as good as dead. Joss Whedon had a near monopoly on Kitty's use while he write Astonishing. So many had hoped when he left she'd get to do a bit more in the greater X-Universe. Sadly not. Damn you WHEDON! (Shakes fist)

Julian Keller (Hellion) : So a year ago Julian was a big deal. He was a the forefront of the highest selling satellite title (New X-Men), was having a very genuinely touching (kind of) relationship with x23, and had put a lot of the 'I'm a villain waiting to happen' mentality behind him. He'd come a long way and gained a fair number of fans. Then Messiah Complex happened... Julian gets gravely injured, and spends the rest of the event on his death bed. If that wasn't bad enough Emma Frost has him moved to a hotel room, and abandons him there. He never received a call to rejoin the new setup in San Francisco. Instead, he illogically went off to try and join up with Magneto, who turned him down. That whole story made very little sense. He's been in limbo ever since.

Rogue : Pre-Messiah Complex - Had her own team and was at the centre of a lot of the lead up into the event. After Messiah-Complex. Just plain disappeared. Eventually turned up in X-Men Legacy. But as far as 2008 was concerned she was just dropped, without explanation.

Alison Blaire (Dazzler) : Started the year stuck on New Excalibur, and having improbable nookie with Pete Wisdom in X-Men: Die by the Sword. Then Longshot showed up and... nothing interesting happened. After Die by the Sword Dazzler went out into limbo. She returned to the pages of Uncanny recently, and at least she's dropped Claremont's biker girl styling. But is she actually doing anything, there? Other than standing in the background?

Elizabeth Braddock (Psylocke) : In the 90s Psylocke was an A-Lister. Now she's stuck in a book set outside the main Marvel Universe, playing through tired rehashes of past stories, and ultimately doing nothing of worth. She's still not back in her real body. She's still not got her real powers back. She's still in Chris Claremont's hands. The title which created her (Captain Britain) gets brought back in a big way, with a huge amount of coverage from Marvel and a decent writer at the reigns. But Betsy's not allowed to be part of any of that. She's got to be Lady Mandarin, or whatever, on a book which going downhill fast...

So there you have it. 7 poor, put upon, mucked up, souls awaiting your choice. What will yours be? You have until the end of the month to vote.

Over to you...

[darknessatnoon]

What the hell? No Sage again? NO ONE has suffered more than she has!

Psylocke is on this list? She's a victim. If she had trained to be a competent fighter, then maybe she wouldn't have been kicked out of the X-Books.

Who is Hellion?

[timbox]

Biggest whiner? Sage has no place in this vote. Colossus is the correct choice.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

What the hell? No Sage again? NO ONE has suffered more than she has!

Darkness, not even you nominated Sage.

[darknessatnoon]

Darkness, not even you nominated Sage.

My vote should have gone without saying.

[Mr_Hellfire]

I don't even know.
3 of my 80's girls all screwed over. I liked Hellion, he was fun. Nightcrawler, Colossus, and Shadowcat, egh, not so much, not horrible but not my favorites.

But Betsy's my favorite out of all and I think most screwed over since....it's CLAREMONT. And Betsy holds a special place in my heart. So I vote Psylocke.

[Seres]

What the hell? No Sage again? NO ONE has suffered more than she has!


Sage doesn't feel pain. She is ineligible for this category.

[Prodigy55]

Julian Heller?!?!?

I demand this mistake be corrected.

[darknessatnoon]

In lieu of the obvious choice, I'm going to give my vote to Rogue. That girl is the second biggest whiner in X-History (following only Rachel Summers). Every moment of her existence is excruciating.

[timbox]

Hellion is another good candidate for biggest whiner.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Julian Heller?!?!?

I demand this mistake be corrected.

Damn my typing. The greatest of apologies, but I don't think I can amend the poll text.

You have my apology though.

[darknessatnoon]

Hellion is another good candidate for biggest whiner.

I'll have to take your word for it. I can't remember ever having read a story with this character in it. Is he in the X-Books or is he in Black Panther or something like that?

[Prodigy55]

Damn my typing. The greatest of apologies, but I don't think I can amend the poll text.

You have my apology though.

I forgive you.

But Julian probably won't.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I'll have to take your word for it. I can't remember ever having read a story with this character in it. Is he in the X-Books or is he in Black Panther or something like that?

New X-Men. 50 issues. Until it ended after Messiah Complex. He was one of Emma Frost's favorite students.

[timbox]

I'll have to take your word for it. I can't remember ever having read a story with this character in it. Is he in the X-Books or is he in Black Panther or something like that?

He started out as a bully but no one took him seriously because he was not threatening in the slightest. After that he resorted to complaining about everything and even the writers couldn't deal with him, so he only appeared in the background of some one-shots.

[Mitteloss]

Hellion, for the majority of the New X-Men.

Second is Kitty, third is Rogue.

Psylocke had a bad year by default. Dazzler had a lame year, she just stood in the background alot and made cameo appearances despite of all the fanfare.

Nightcrawler and Colossus fans shouldn't really be complaining (or nominating in this matter)... at least they appeared in a comic nearly every month and had decent page-time, it's not like they've been tortured and drugged repeatedly off-panel, but I know, story-wise, 2008 wasn't the best year for them.

[MartinRedmond]

Rogue. :(

Dazzler's just kind of constantly pathetic given all she has going for her and what she's done. She made her bed, she can cry in it. /:)

[tornshattered]

Nightcrawler and Colossus fans shouldn't really be complaining (or nominating in this matter)... at least they appeared in a comic nearly every month and had decent page-time, it's not like they've been tortured and drugged repeatedly off-panel, but I know, story-wise, 2008 wasn't the best year for them.

I never knew anyone who could even type sarcasticly. I bow down to you, my master. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[chickrockguitar]

Hmmm.... I dunno...

Shadowcat, Colossus....

I'm gonna go with Hellion. :tongue:

But the two above come close.

[Seres]

How has Hellion suffered? He was stabbed by Deathstrike, which was his own fault. He then got told off by Magneto for acting like a berk, which was his own fault.
And then he vanished, which was joyous news.

I think the true answer for this award is Mike Carey, who had to write about Prof X, Wolverine, Daken and Juggernaut this year. With a cast like that, it's no wonder he needed Miss Sinister to appear and elevate the stories.

[Askani's Flame]

My vote goes to Nightcrawler.

[frog]

It really does suck to be Colossus, but I believe being being briefly reunited with your puppy love only to be betrayed by your dragon and sacrificed to oblivion in a giant bullet sucks more.

[Prodigy55]

How has Hellion suffered? He was stabbed by Deathstrike, which was his own fault. He then got told off by Magneto for acting like a berk, which was his own fault.
And then he vanished, which was joyous news.

He was ditched by the X-Men.

His parents disowned him.

His favourite teacher Emma Frost told him to go away.

And his name was spelled incorrectly on this poll.

[frog]

And his name was spelled incorrectly on this poll.

If that defines suffering then Rogue and Colossus are in an all time tie.

[eurazn]

Rogue. :(

Dazzler's just kind of constantly pathetic given all she has going for her and what she's done. She made her bed, she can cry in it. /:)

Uhm ... stones in glass houses and all that. Let's not delve into Rogue's choices and how she's landed where she has :tongue:

[Seres]

He was ditched by the X-Men.

His parents disowned him.

His favourite teacher Emma Frost told him to go away.

And his name was spelled incorrectly on this poll.

You're right, he is intolerable. I support your anti-Hellion feelings. Perhaps The Leper Queen will do us all a favour and kill him this year.

[Prodigy55]

If that defines suffering then Rogue and Colossus are in an all time tie.

Rouge's name is never spelled wrong.

Neither is Colosus's.

LOL

You're right, he is intolerable. I support your anti-Hellion feelings. Perhaps The Leper Queen will do us all a favour and kill him this year.

What is this?

I am pro Julian Keller.

[Seres]

What is this?

I am pro Julian Keller.

You disagree with the enlightened opinion of Emma Frost, Magneto and Craig Kyle/Chris Yost?

[Prodigy55]

You disagree with the enlightened opinion of Emma Frost, Magneto and Craig Kyle/Chris Yost?

If K&Y wanted to get rid of Hellion, they would have done it sooner.

Magneto is a fat old troll.

Emma Frost didn't want to tell him that she was going on a Savaga Land sexy-time vacation.

[darknessatnoon]

If K&Y wanted to get rid of Hellion, they would have done it sooner.



It's never too late to do the right thing.

[Greg Anderson]

Bishop fans.

[darknessatnoon]

Bishop fans.

What's to complain about?
You people have never gotten so much attention.

[Pro]

Tough one but went for Kitty. Her final fate after a promising storyline was just sad in more than one meaning of the word.

[Prodigy55]

It's never too late to do the right thing.

They like him.

He will appear in X-Force.

[Seres]

They like him.

He will appear in X-Force.

If you would like to know more about the women who is going to wear Hellion's face as a mask, the Milligan thread will have a profile of The Leper Queen ready for you in the near future.

[$5 Milkshake]

Tough choice between Nightcrawler and Psylocke, but at the end of the day, the one under Claremont suffers most. And gets my vote.

[Dagger]

Uhm ... stones in glass houses and all that. Let's not delve into Rogue's choices and how she's landed where she has :tongue:
You can't take his opinions seriously, Eury. He's a devoted Claremontian, who likes TB3.

[Prodigy55]

If you would like to know more about the women who is going to wear Hellion's face as a mask, the Milligan thread will have a profile of The Leper Queen ready for you in the near future.

That skank hoe can't kill Hellion.

[justinkos91]

Hellion is another good candidate for biggest whiner.

Hellion's a jerk
My vote goes to any of the three 80s outback women
Rogue in particular, being comatose for a while then disappearing in the desert.
Anticipating her return, if it lasts

[darknessatnoon]

That skank hoe can't kill Hellion.

According to a recent issue of X-Force, she's killed little girls before.

[jarrod]

I'm shocked Kurt's not getting more votes. From Wallpapercrawler to the Secret Invasion Stupid to Priestcrawler Returns to the upcoming oneshot writeout. He's one of the most popular X-Men, yet he's been handled the worst for quite awhile now... actually, maybe that's it? Kurt's 2008 suffering doesn't stand out as it's basically standard procedure at this point for the character?

Maybe he can get the "I have suffered" award for the decade?

[darknessatnoon]

Maybe he can get the "I have suffered" award for the decade?

That award goes to the rest of us who have to read your posts on a regular basis.

[jarrod]

That award goes to the rest of us who have to read your posts on a regular basis.
It's difficult to take masochists seriously. You and CC should start your own forum.

[Prodigy55]

According to a recent issue of X-Force, she's killed little girls before.

Irrelevant fact.

[jarrod]

Leper Queen couldn't even kill a depowered crazy Lorna Dane or impotence stricken Iceman. I love her, but LOL.

I want to see Kimura kill Hellion.

[darknessatnoon]

It's difficult to take masochists seriously.

Does your "husband" know how you feel about him?

[Seres]

Leper Queen couldn't even kill a depowered crazy Lorna Dane or impotence stricken Iceman. I love her, but LOL.

I want to see Kimura kill Hellion.

No! X-23 should be the one who gets to do it.

[Prodigy55]

Leper Queen couldn't even kill a depowered crazy Lorna Dane or impotence stricken Iceman. I love her, but LOL.

I want to see Kimura kill Hellion.

Kimura is weaksauce.

She works for Weapon X, but is too stupid to wear an anti-telepath shield.

[$5 Milkshake]

I'm shocked Kurt's not getting more votes. From Wallpapercrawler to the Secret Invasion Stupid to Priestcrawler Returns to the upcoming oneshot writeout. He's one of the most popular X-Men, yet he's been handled the worst for quite awhile now... actually, maybe that's it? Kurt's 2008 suffering doesn't stand out as it's basically standard procedure at this point for the character?

Maybe he can get the "I have suffered" award for the decade?

Yeah, I agree. I think we're just used to it. Which is a shame.

[jarrod]

Does your "husband" know how you feel about him?
I would hope so since we exchanged rings.

[MartinRedmond]

Uhm ... stones in glass houses and all that. Let's not delve into Rogue's choices and how she's landed where she has :tongue:

It's true Rogue's not very resourceful, but at least, she's not getting any, ever. Dazzler has EVERYTHING !!! EVERYTHING!!! >:(

[MartinRedmond]

You can't take his opinions seriously, Eury. He's a devoted Claremontian, who likes TB3.

Sorry if anyone's posting OUT FOR BLOOD here. But I just consider message boards some time waster in between assignments.

[Vanish]

Rogue. She's been missing despite big expectations of her involvement in last year's crossover. Plus, the people in her life really suck, except for Pulse and Cannyballz. Dazzler's also missing, despite a promised role in this year's Uncanny, but she made some major improvements in her stock and the expectations (for me, anyway) weren't as high.

Then again...Julian has been Black Panthered, but I guess that has little to do with him suffering and more to do with the suffering of everyone else.

I have sympathy for Colossus.

[worstblogever]

Alison Blaire (Dazzler) : She's on tour again. Sure, the circumstances of her finances have been revealed in the previews for the current Manifest Destiny... but alas, that's how Ali is doing in '09. In '08, she's worshipped by Pixie and San Francisco, and escaped the writing of New Excalibur. I'd hardly say she suffered.

Elizabeth Braddock (Psylocke) : Other the fact that she's being written in a book that's being cancelled, and being away from Earth, Betsy seems pretty well off. She's getting hit on my Mystiq and Sabretooth, and is smooching Morph when time permits. Okay, maybe they're not exactly the greatest of suitors, but Betts seems to be making the most of her time, and not suffering.

Rogue : She's been away from her family in the X-Men, but its by choice. She's confronting her demons... but hasn't been tormented by them. Limbo, as it would be, is better than what some of the rest of the list has going right now.

Julian Keller (Hellion) : Similar to Rogue, really. It sucked for the kid to get telepathically knocked out by Emma Frost, and ditched at his parents house. That's rough, when your most influential adult shrugs you off like that. But compared to last year, when he got skewered, I think he's doing pretty well. His '07 was really worse than '08.

Kurt Wagner (Nightcrawler) : Okay, started out the year with wounds from Messiah CompleX. A little rough. But being mentally screwed over by a Skrull artifact, then slowly marginilized by Pixie until she stabs you with her Soul Dagger, and Scott and Emma voice displeasure over your chapel, that no one visits? Rough.

Kitty Pryde (Shadowcat) : Okay, she got stuck in a giant bullet in space. That's pretty rough. But it's who she left behind that I'm worried about.

Piotr Rasputin (Colossus) : Okay, his girlfriend was lost in the magic space bullet. He's had a run-in with the same SOB who extorted his dad, and gave him all sorts of bad childhood memories. Oh, and he's also coming unglued about his kid sister, who he can't find a way to save from a demonic realm. He and Dr. Doom should form a support group. Oh, and did I mention his team leader pretty much told him, in light of all this stuff, to "Get over it"? It's Colossus. That's all.

[darknessatnoon]

I would hope so since we exchanged rings.

What grosses me out the most was that my first thought wasn't of the rings on your fingers.

[Phoenix_Force]

Rogue wins.

I mean come on, she was injected with Strain 88, had her entire mind/personality warped by The Hecatomb, saw her hand-picked team either fall apart or betray her completely, her plan to keep Raven close to her as to keep an eye on her backfired, and she had yet another falling out with Remy.

[Seres]

Rogue wins.

I mean come on, she was injected with Strain 88, had her entire mind/personality warped by The Hecatomb, saw her hand-picked team either fall apart or betray her completely, her plan to keep Raven close to her as to keep an eye on her backfired, and she had yet another falling out with Remy.

Not in 2008.

[Phoenix_Force]

...None of that happened in 2008?

[darknessatnoon]

...None of that happened in 2008?

She spent 2008 in the desert, giving blow jobs for gas.

[Seres]

...None of that happened in 2008?

....No. Or am I wrong? I think in 2008 she woke up from her coma, cured, and went to Australia. She was mostly absent from the books entirely - but she does have Mystique in her head, which is probably a bit distracting.

[Phoenix_Force]

I'm pretty sure 'Messiah Complex' and the Hecatomb arc happened in 2008, didn't they?

[Novaya Havoc]

Clearly Dazzler has suffered the most.

You even misspelled her name.

[pryde15]

The fact that Kitty is not winning only reinforces that today sucks.

[Petes Pants]

Most of these people haven't been featured enough to truly suffer.

Psylocke has been front and center suffering through the most "LOLWTDevil?" storylines in years.

[creaky]

I'm pretty sure 'Messiah Complex' and the Hecatomb arc happened in 2008, didn't they?

Nope. The year started out with the end of Messiah Complex.

[Phoenix_Force]

Huh, I guess so. I kind of drifted into sleepy-time when the X-Men went to San Fran and was only reading X-Force and X-Factor and CB&MI:13.

What a boring year. :frown:

[creaky]

In no order:

Kurt's been shot, pranked, almost eaten, electrocuted. fallen off a flying Sentinel, punched in the face by Magneto, seduced by a Skrull ball, upstaged and stabbed by Pixie, lost Kitty, his best friend set out to hunt down and kill his mom, he was kicked around by Empath, built a chapel which everyone ignored and he is now being written off as being plain no good.

[x_goalkeeper]

Kitty saved the world, and for that she is stuck in a bullet in space..

[jarrod]

What grosses me out the most was that my first thought wasn't of the rings on your fingers.
dirty birdy!

[darknessatnoon]

dirty birdy!

What's even sicker is that later I realized those were the rings on your fingers.

[jarrod]

What's even sicker is that later I realized those were the rings on your fingers.
We are mainstreaming.

[darknessatnoon]

We are mainstreaming.

That's sad. I had you pegged as Radical Fairies.

[passer-by]

Kitty was so well treated by Whedon at the start and now the way she was thrown in the dark (in both senses) annoys me.

She is one of my favourite X-Men, especially written by CC/Byrne (read somewhere that she was created by Byrne, not Claremont), then just CC in X-Men, and by CC and later Davis in Excalibur.

I currently prefer her Ultimate version written by Bendis.

What's the big problem with her and Peter being together? (Both Peters in both universes :wink: )

So she actually suffers in both the MU and the UU.



P.S. Kurt would be my second choice in the poll.

[jarrod]

That's sad. I had you pegged as Radical Fairies.
lol. You've seen our dog rite?

[darknessatnoon]

lol. You've seen our dog rite?

unfortunately, that image is burnt into my brain.

[justinkos91]

Where's layla Miller in this list? :confused:
She's suffered more than Psylocke and Dazzler most definitely
being on a mediocre team and not getting attention is not suffering

[Frodo-X]

I voted for Nightcrawler. Part of me wanted to vote for Kitty, for what was done to her, but at least she was at the center of something. Kurt has mostly been wallpaper for the year (longer, really), and now they're giving him identity issues because of friggin' Pixie, of all people!

[metalgorgomon]

Most of these people haven't been featured enough to truly suffer.

Psylocke has been front and center suffering through the most "LOLWTDevil?" storylines in years.

Yep. Nobody has suffered more than Psylocke.
She's been held hostage for the past 8 years and mind controlled to think she's doin' just okay..

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Where's layla Miller in this list? :confused:
She's suffered more than Psylocke and Dazzler most definitely
being on a mediocre team and not getting attention is not suffering

she got several nominations, but less than those who made the final poll. I am actually quite surprised at that.

[steve2275]

name is never spelled wrong.

Neither is Colosus's.
xcept by you :tongue:

[steve2275]

name is never spelled wrong.

Neither is Colosus's.
xcept by you :tongue:

[Madrox84]

I voted for Nightcrawler.

It grieves me that he has been reduced to Fuzzy Blue Wallpaper.

[justinkos91]

she got several nominations, but less than those who made the final poll. I am actually quite surprised at that.

Thanks for the clarification...

[We Are Black Air]

Black Air questions the poster's Intel. Who is this Julian Heller?

Message Ends

[drwho]

Piotr is suffering he loses kitty and then magik shows up with demon horns poofs off then shows up again evil to start trouble and poofs off again.

[creaky]

Where's layla Miller in this list? :confused:
She's suffered more than Psylocke and Dazzler most definitely
being on a mediocre team and not getting attention is not suffering

It seems people have different definitions of "suffering". To some, it means plot-driven suffering, while, to others, it means suffering as a character (being ignored, written badly etc). Kind of confusing since those two are often mutually exclusive.