CBR: True Romance: McCann Talks "New Avengers: The Reunion"

[CBR News]

In March's “New Avengers: The Reunion," Ronin reconnects with his wife
Mockingbird, who was until recently dead. We spoke with writer Jim McCann and editor Jeanine Schaefer about the four-issue miniseries.


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19336).

[Will.S]

Wow, the new costume isn't bad at all.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/newavengers/reunion/NewAvengerReunion01alt.jpg

You know, as much as I like them together you can't just brush aside the Clint/Maya romance away because of this. It already feels really awkward to have them hook up so quickly after they've been away from each other for so long so hopefully they won't be back together in a relationship and she goes her own separate way.

[CMBMOOL]

At least the writer is listen to the fans complaints and knows what he's in for. At least he did do some research on the current status quo on Ronin.:redface:

As for Bobbi's new costume, it still a ? to me as it more like her Spy Status mixed in with her heroine status. :confused:

[Will.S]

At least the writer is listen to the fans complaints and knows what he's in for. At least he did do some research on the current status quo on Ronin.:redface:
Yeah, Jim certainly comes across as someone who did his homework and seems like a genuine fan of the characters. I actually even liked the little story in the Dark Reign New Nation which makes it very tempting to pick this up in single issues.


As for Bobbi's new costume, it still a ? to me as it more like her Spy Status mixed in with her heroine status. :confused:
It does seem more spy looking than before with just a bit of a hint of the "bird" aspect of her name.

[steveg887]

Wow, the new costume isn't bad at all.

I mean, it's functional and all, but not enough gratuitous ass is being shown.

[Nevets F]

I am really looking forward to this. I love seeing a writer really do his research, that is all too rare these days.

And pick up the single issues, don't trade wait, otherwise we won't get more. :)

[I am MODOK]

At 3.99, I just can't justify picking this up, even though I love both characters. My choice becomes a bit easier with Clint staying in the silly Ronin suit too. I'd have a much harder time saying "no" to Hawkeye and Mockingbird.

[Will.S]

At 3.99, I just can't justify picking this up, even though I love both characters. My choice becomes a bit easier with Clint staying in the silly Ronin suit too. I'd have a much harder time saying "no" to Hawkeye and Mockingbird.
I think it makes sense for him to have it if someone else is using the identity on top of Jim's explanation of what it means for Clint.

[XPac]

I think it makes sense for him to have it if someone else is using the identity on top of Jim's explanation of what it means for Clint.

Yeah. Between Kate Bishop and whoever that is in Dark Avengers (I presume it's Bullseye), having a third Hawkey around probably would get a tad confusing after a while.

[Will.S]

Yeah. Between Kate Bishop and whoever that is in Dark Avengers (I presume it's Bullseye), having a third Hawkey around probably would get a tad confusing after a while.
Heh I actually forgot about the Dark Avengers Hawkeye but that pretty much helps Clint's case for wearing the Ronin costume.

[Jmacq1]

I actually liked the explanation for Clint keeping the Ronin identity.

Love Bobbi's new costume. That's about as perfect a "modernization' as I've ever seen, I think. Very much a "keep it simple, stupid" sort of thing.

Oddly, though, I was most excited about hearing that there'll be some interaction between Clint and Bucky-Cap in the first issue. Anything that gets Bucky-Cap more involved with the rest of the Marvel Universe is good/interesting in my book.

[Push You Down]

Sounds really cool. I like Mockingbird's new costume except I am a huge sucker for her old mask and wish that would return.

[escapegoat]

McCann : "It's obvious that McCann has a great affection for Mockingbird, and much of that is because he feels Bobbi Morse is one of the most unique characters in the Marvel stable. “She has no powers, but she's been heavily trained in hand-to-hand combat, as a marksman, and as a spy,”


I read that and immediately thought "Hmmmm...sounds a lot like the Black Widow to me...." :tongue:

[B. Kuwanger]

I also liked her old costume a lot but this new one is just as cool. I guess I can see the point of a powerless woman with no pants or gloves with floppy sleeves being silly in 2008.

I really like all that McCann has said about this mini, I only hope it can show that Clint can do more than swing around a sword. I'm excited to see more of Clint and Bucky.

[XPac]

McCann : "It's obvious that McCann has a great affection for Mockingbird, and much of that is because he feels Bobbi Morse is one of the most unique characters in the Marvel stable. “She has no powers, but she's been heavily trained in hand-to-hand combat, as a marksman, and as a spy,”


I read that and immediately thought "Hmmmm...sounds a lot like the Black Widow to me...." :tongue:

Between Widow and Bobbi, I suppose we can assume he's got a thing for spies.

I wonder if they'll upgrade Bobbi's gear a bit if she's a spy and marksman.

[artiepants]

You know, as much as I like them together you can't just brush aside the Clint/Maya romance away because of this. It already feels really awkward to have them hook up so quickly after they've been away from each other for so long so hopefully they won't be back together in a relationship and she goes her own separate way.

totally agree, i'm really bummed about that ~ the way Bendis had been slowly building up the Clint/Maya relationship was nice, and i'm kinda bummed that's being sept away.

Love the new Mockingbird costume though, great update.

[DredRedEye]

Man, I am glad to see Mockingbird back from the dead. Thoroughly enjoyed the entire West Coast Avengers run back in the day and was sorry to see her "die" -- so much so that when I came across the page of original art depicting her death I scooped it right up.
Hopefully McCann can do these 2 some justice and satisfy most of us along the way.
Dred

[$5 Milkshake]

I actually liked the explanation for Clint keeping the Ronin identity.

What was his explanation? (sorry, not feeling well so saving reading that much text for later....:redface: )

[XPac]

What was his explanation? (sorry, not feeling well so saving reading that much text for later....:redface: )

I think it's something to the effect of Clint being a masterless Samuri (which is basically what a Ronin is) with Cap dead. He has to kind of find his identity.

Also, though it wasn't mentioned on this article Clint did Kate Bischop the approval to carry on his legacy.

[$5 Milkshake]

I think it's something to the effect of Clint being a masterless Samuri (which is basically what a Ronin is) with Cap dead. He has to kind of find his identity.

Also, though it wasn't mentioned on this article Clint did Kate Bischop the approval to carry on his legacy.

Cool, thanks :smile:

[Jmacq1]

I think it's something to the effect of Clint being a masterless Samuri (which is basically what a Ronin is) with Cap dead. He has to kind of find his identity.

Also, though it wasn't mentioned on this article Clint did Kate Bischop the approval to carry on his legacy.

It also included the fact that Clint has shifted identities before. He was Goliath for a while when he was feeling "powerless" and now he's Ronin because he's ""masterless" and looking for his place in the world."

[Kissyboots]

What I would give for Clint to be Hawkeye and for the return of the West Coast Avengers...sigh. Why don't they kill of Thing replace him with a brick and then bring back Ben Grimm but as Hamster-Man?

[Kissyboots]

It also included the fact that Clint has shifted identities before. He was Goliath for a while when he was feeling "powerless" and now he's Ronin because he's ""masterless" and looking for his place in the world."

Also I think Bullseye is assuming the role of Hawkeye.

[HeckBoy]

It does seem more spy looking than before with just a bit of a hint of the "bird" aspect of her name.I've always kinda wondered this, but is there any specific attribute for which or reason for why Bobbi's called Mockingbird? My base knowledge of the avian mockingbird's claim to fame is its ability to mimic other birds' songs, but I don't really know how that might relate to Bobbi.

[Capt USA]

fantastic interview/comments. I am no longer skeptical about this transition (I have every issue of West Coast Avengers and was afraid that this would invalidate a lot of the interaction between Clint and Bobbi--mostly afraid that they would make the Phantom Rider aspect be Skrully, sounds like that is not the case)


I can't understand anyone caring one bit about the Maya/Clint relationship, there was no buildup, maybe by todays story telling methods there might have been, but in comparison to good writing there was no build up, they basically jump in the sack the first minute they got a chance. Heck I never even felt that there was any feelings between either towards the other it was a physical thing pure and simple.

[IronMagnus]

Sorry, I still HATE Clint as Ronin. And Bobbi's old costume was better.

I'll buy a Hawkeye comic when he's Hawkeye again, and not before.

[Will.S]

I can't understand anyone caring one bit about the Maya/Clint relationship, there was no buildup, maybe by todays story telling methods there might have been, but in comparison to good writing there was no build up, they basically jump in the sack the first minute they got a chance. Heck I never even felt that there was any feelings between either towards the other it was a physical thing pure and simple.
The Clint and Maya relationship was a more recent development that started to build up a little before and during the Secret Invasion tie ins but it certainly started out as a physical attraction (not that there's anything wrong with that).

[Capt USA]

The Clint and Maya relationship was a more recent development that started to build up a little before and during the Secret Invasion tie ins but it certainly started out as a physical attraction (not that there's anything wrong with that).

but it was a boring interaction, I mean Clint has energy, spirit and emotions, Maya is a wet blanket(at least as written by Bendis--like most of his characters) she is quite possibly the most boring character ever written (again as written by Bendis in Avengers, in Daredevil she was cool) I don't get how anyone could care about her, she had less personality than Towlie from South Park. The only character less interesting than Maya in the past several years is....welll I'm sure there are some somewhere(even one or two not written by Bendis, I mean at least Jarvis was explained away as a Skrull, and the Hoods crew is clearly mind controlled as they have lost all personality except Jigsaw--not sure why the most boring and weakest(in all aspects) character in the group is the only other one to show any aspect of their personality). A person who is interested in Maya based upon her showing in the Avengers is a person that would fall in love with a real girl love doll (which has more personality than Maya) There is absolute zero personality to this character, and anyone that thinks Clint would be interested in more than a physical romp has to go back and re-read Clint sometimes.

I have no problem with Clint as Ronin, and I love the new look of Mockingbird. (I just love the goggles) I still assume someday that Clint takes back the Hawkeye mantle but for now just enjoy the ride, and enjoy it being written by a guy who clearly loves the character.

[TheDrizzt]

I am really looking forward to this. I love seeing a writer really do his research, that is all too rare these days.
We'll see.

Recall that from 1985 to 1989 (our time), the Skrulls had lost their shapechanging ability. Let's see if he tries to place the replacement in that time frame. :evilsmile:

[Sandy Hausler]

I think it makes sense for him to have it if someone else is using the identity on top of Jim's explanation of what it means for Clint.

Yeah, but it's his identity.

There have been two Human Torchs bopping around the MU at the same time, there can be two Hawkeyes. Or the witch can come up with her own name.

Sandy Hausler

[Jmacq1]

We'll see.

Recall that from 1985 to 1989 (our time), the Skrulls had lost their shapechanging ability. Let's see if he tries to place the replacement in that time frame. :evilsmile:

Sliding timescales and all, that's so not an issue.

[XPac]

I've always kinda wondered this, but is there any specific attribute for which or reason for why Bobbi's called Mockingbird? My base knowledge of the avian mockingbird's claim to fame is its ability to mimic other birds' songs, but I don't really know how that might relate to Bobbi.

I always though PART of the reason Clint and Bobbi got together was because of Green Arrow and Black Canary's relationship. An archer teamed with a leggie blonde named after a bird.

I don't know if that's coincidental or what, but it's always been a factor in my mind at least.

[XPac]

Yeah, but it's his identity.

There have been two Human Torchs bopping around the MU at the same time, there can be two Hawkeyes. Or the witch can come up with her own name.

Sandy Hausler

With the Dark Avengers Hawkeye and Kate Biscop, there ARE two Hawkeyes. 3 is probably pushing it.

Kate Bischop can come up with her own name if she needs to. But Cap gave her the name, and Clint already gave her his blessing to use it.

[HeckBoy]

I always though PART of the reason Clint and Bobbi got together was because of Green Arrow and Black Canary's relationship. An archer teamed with a leggie blonde named after a bird.

I don't know if that's coincidental or what, but it's always been a factor in my mind at least.
Hmm, good point. I guess I never saw that connection before b/c Bobbi was long "dead" by the time I started reading Avengers. Still, it almost seems too coincidental to be true. Maybe there is truth to your theory.

[StoneGold]

I've always kinda wondered this, but is there any specific attribute for which or reason for why Bobbi's called Mockingbird? My base knowledge of the avian mockingbird's claim to fame is its ability to mimic other birds' songs, but I don't really know how that might relate to Bobbi.

Because she kept talking in combat, irritating her enemies.


As for the new costume, it's basically her old one with the legs, but without the stupid sleeves, and without the mask. I can definitely do without the stupid sleeves.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/f/f9/Mockingbird_002.jpg/200px-Mockingbird_002.jpg

As for her and Hawkeye being GA and BC, that's definitely why Gruenwald hooked them up, but she was a pre-existing character. Been around since the 70s.

[StoneGold]

With the Dark Avengers Hawkeye and Kate Biscop, there ARE two Hawkeyes. 3 is probably pushing it.

Kate Bischop can come up with her own name if she needs to. But Cap gave her the name, and Clint already gave her his blessing to use it.

Besides, if we're lucky, there'll be another kick-ass moment like in SI7 where Clint tears the mask off of (probably) Bullseye and puts it on himself before kicking serious ass.




Seriously, that little bit in SI7 made Clint breakout hero of 2008 in my book.

[XPac]

Besides, if we're lucky, there'll be another kick-ass moment like in SI7 where Clint tears the mask off of (probably) Bullseye and puts it on himself before kicking serious ass.




Seriously, that little bit in SI7 made Clint breakout hero of 2008 in my book.

I seriously am starting to think that the only reason Ronin isn't using arrows (ninjas can use arrows afterall) is because Clint coming up with reasons to grab and use someone elses ends up being such a powerful scene.

And that's exactly what we would get from him taking down the Dark Avengers Hawkeye. We get to see him pick up arrows again and kick serious butt.

[ForEverAncien]

Trade for me...can't afford it.
I am really looking forward to this. I love seeing a writer really do his research, that is all too rare these days.

And pick up the single issues, don't trade wait, otherwise we won't get more. :)

[ForEverAncien]

Nothing personal against the writer, I see no reason to justified this 'reunion'.

Stop rehashing the past, and please just go forward.
Wow, the new costume isn't bad at all.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/newavengers/reunion/NewAvengerReunion01alt.jpg

You know, as much as I like them together you can't just brush aside the Clint/Maya romance away because of this. It already feels really awkward to have them hook up so quickly after they've been away from each other for so long so hopefully they won't be back together in a relationship and she goes her own separate way.

[pendragon]

It also included the fact that Clint has shifted identities before. He was Goliath for a while when he was feeling "powerless" and now he's Ronin because he's ""masterless" and looking for his place in the world."

But it doesn't explain at all how Clint acquired the skills to be Ronin.
He has never, not now, not before, been a martial artist or a master of a samurai sword.
He was trained with a bow & arrow by the Swordman & Trickshot. Not a sword.
And Cap taught he enough to handle himself in a fight. A scrapper, but nothing more.
He's had his butt handed to him several times by other martial artists.
The logic behind taking up the name of Ronin makes sense, about being masterless.
But not the skills.
This was just something Bendis pulled out of thin air & ignored 40 years of character history.
This is a retcon of Clint's history & would have no problem with it, if Bendis himself would admit it's a retcon.

[Capt USA]

I would argue that Clint would be above average as a swordsman and martial artist, factor in his knowledge of super hero battles and he would be a force to be reckoned with, but he shouldn't be portrayed as an elite fighter, in a hand to hand sparring session he should get his butt handed by pretty much everyone, to really make Clint work would be to use his experience at being underrated and finding weakness's.

I agree that Bendis is just thinking "anyone wears a costume is automatically competent, unless I need to ignore years of continuity and make them my bitch(tigra) to show how tough a useless idiot of a character like the hood is so much more competent" Clint should become the defacto leader of the team (no way does either Bucky or Luke have the ability to lead on par with Clint, heck Clint may have the second most experience of leading Avengers of any Avenger in history) They should tell stories of how he comes up with tactics that is based upon his experience with a bow etc.

[NickThompson]

Really digging that costume.

[XPac]

But it doesn't explain at all how Clint acquired the skills to be Ronin.
He has never, not now, not before, been a martial artist or a master of a samurai sword.
He was trained with a bow & arrow by the Swordman & Trickshot. Not a sword.
And Cap taught he enough to handle himself in a fight. A scrapper, but nothing more.
He's had his butt handed to him several times by other martial artists.
The logic behind taking up the name of Ronin makes sense, about being masterless.
But not the skills.
This was just something Bendis pulled out of thin air & ignored 40 years of character history.
This is a retcon of Clint's history & would have no problem with it, if Bendis himself would admit it's a retcon.

It's a bit of a retcon, but not a HUGE one.

Since he was trained by the Swordsman, it's not the worst retcon in the world to argue that he got some training in using a sword too.

Also, it was established way back in West Coast Avengers that Clint designed Moon Knights weaponry. That's not exactly an indication that he's a master of other forms of weapons, but its not an extremely difficult stretch either.

And Clint has actually demonstrated some pretty descent hand to hand combat in the past. It's not like Ronin has fought any high end martial artists lately, aside from the Hand cannon fodder. Has he done anything so far that would have really thrown us off if he was wearing a Hawkeye outfit rather than a ninja suit?

[XPac]

I would argue that Clint would be above average as a swordsman and martial artist, factor in his knowledge of super hero battles and he would be a force to be reckoned with, but he shouldn't be portrayed as an elite fighter, in a hand to hand sparring session he should get his butt handed by pretty much everyone, to really make Clint work would be to use his experience at being underrated and finding weakness's.

I agree that Bendis is just thinking "anyone wears a costume is automatically competent, unless I need to ignore years of continuity and make them my bitch(tigra) to show how tough a useless idiot of a character like the hood is so much more competent" Clint should become the defacto leader of the team (no way does either Bucky or Luke have the ability to lead on par with Clint, heck Clint may have the second most experience of leading Avengers of any Avenger in history) They should tell stories of how he comes up with tactics that is based upon his experience with a bow etc.

Maybe I'm missing something here... but has Ronin done anything to show that he's an elite fighter?

He's beaten a few Hand Ninjas... and he lost to the Warbound pretty badly. During Secret Invasion, a good portion of his fight scenes involved him using arrows.

What exactly are these uber martial art showings Ronin has performed which people have a problem with?

[Capt USA]

Maybe I'm missing something here... but has Ronin done anything to show that he's an elite fighter?

He's beaten a few Hand Ninjas... and he lost to the Warbound pretty badly. During Secret Invasion, a good portion of his fight scenes involved him using arrows.

What exactly are these uber martial art showings Ronin has performed which people have a problem with?

I haven't seen it either, he's mostly been dealing with grunts, and thanks to Wolverine and Daredevil it's firmly established in the marvel universe that ninjas are worse fighters than any random 70 year old grandma off the street. These are guys that make Star Wars Stormtroopers appear elite.

but my point is that if he is going out there in a costume with other elite fighters, he should be assumed to be pretty good. It's not like Bendis actually ever wastes his time of 20 pages of dialog to script a believeable fight anyway, so there is probably no chance of them showing the different levels of ability between the group in a fight. (say what you will about civil war, we at least had cool battles, secret invasion reminded me of mid 70's DC fights where powerlevels were meaningless, tactics non-existant and people won just because that is what the writer wrote regardles of how, I mean the Super skrulls as shown in invasion would have a hard time with hand ninjas)

[XPac]

I haven't seen it either, he's mostly been dealing with grunts, and thanks to Wolverine and Daredevil it's firmly established in the marvel universe that ninjas are worse fighters than any random 70 year old grandma off the street. These are guys that make Star Wars Stormtroopers appear elite.

It's not just a marvel comics thing.

There's a whole rule about ninjas that pretty much applies across the board of popular fiction.

One ninja is tough. But in large numbers, they're leaves in the wind.

[TheDrizzt]

Sliding timescales and all, that's so not an issue.
Nope. Sliding timescales explain why Franklin Richards isn't 40 and Ben Grimm isn't a WWII vet, not why a story taking place at the time all Skrulls lost their powers features Skrulls with their powers.

Like I said, if he takes this into account, I'll be impressed. We'll see.

[Omega Alpha]

Clint should become the defacto leader of the team (no way does either Bucky or Luke have the ability to lead on par with Clint, heck Clint may have the second most experience of leading Avengers of any Avenger in history)

No one is really leading the team, which I think is the point. Sometimes Logan calls the shots, other times it's Luke, sometimes it's someone else but the team doesn't have a very clear and defined leadership like the X-men or the Fantastic Four.


It's not just a marvel comics thing.

There's a whole rule about ninjas that pretty much applies across the board of popular fiction.

One ninja is tough. But in large numbers, they're leaves in the wind.

That doesn't apply to ninjas only, should be said.

[Will.S]

but it was a boring interaction, I mean Clint has energy, spirit and emotions, Maya is a wet blanket(at least as written by Bendis--like most of his characters) she is quite possibly the most boring character ever written (again as written by Bendis in Avengers, in Daredevil she was cool) I don't get how anyone could care about her, she had less personality than Towlie from South Park. The only character less interesting than Maya in the past several years is....welll I'm sure there are some somewhere(even one or two not written by Bendis, I mean at least Jarvis was explained away as a Skrull, and the Hoods crew is clearly mind controlled as they have lost all personality except Jigsaw--not sure why the most boring and weakest(in all aspects) character in the group is the only other one to show any aspect of their personality). A person who is interested in Maya based upon her showing in the Avengers is a person that would fall in love with a real girl love doll (which has more personality than Maya) There is absolute zero personality to this character, and anyone that thinks Clint would be interested in more than a physical romp has to go back and re-read Clint sometimes.

I have no problem with Clint as Ronin, and I love the new look of Mockingbird. (I just love the goggles) I still assume someday that Clint takes back the Hawkeye mantle but for now just enjoy the ride, and enjoy it being written by a guy who clearly loves the character.
Maya may not have been handled all that well overall but I enjoyed all of her interactions with Clint since her joining the team so I felt that was handled nicely. I even liked her talk with Clint in this issue:

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6564/na18914941vc1.jpg


But it doesn't explain at all how Clint acquired the skills to be Ronin.
He has never, not now, not before, been a martial artist or a master of a samurai sword.
He was trained with a bow & arrow by the Swordman & Trickshot. Not a sword.
And Cap taught he enough to handle himself in a fight. A scrapper, but nothing more.
He's had his butt handed to him several times by other martial artists.
The logic behind taking up the name of Ronin makes sense, about being masterless.
But not the skills.
This was just something Bendis pulled out of thin air & ignored 40 years of character history.
This is a retcon of Clint's history & would have no problem with it, if Bendis himself would admit it's a retcon.
I haven't really seen Clint do anything particularly impressive with the sword and the nun chucks but he gets by just fine.


I agree that Bendis is just thinking "anyone wears a costume is automatically competent, unless I need to ignore years of continuity and make them my bitch(tigra) to show how tough a useless idiot of a character like the hood is so much more competent".....
I really like Tigra but she's not all that impressive of a fighter from what I've seen.

I mean, frigging Kraven always got the best of her.

[XPac]

Maya may not have been handled all that well overall but I enjoyed all of her interactions with Clint since her joining the team so I felt that was handled nicely. I even liked her talk with Clint in this issue:



She did get 2 entire issues basically dedicated to her.

She got the first NA issue post CW (I think the rest of the team only showed up in the last 2-3 pages), and the last issue just prior to SI. So she pretty much book ended this chapter of the NA.

It's uneven... and she should have been given some sort of exit if she was leaving. But getting 2 entire issues ain't bad either.

[Frank]

I always felt that Mockingbird's pointy mask was her stronger assett. This almost made me forget about her being a Black Canary clone. :wink:

[Will.S]

Tom Brevoort's blog has a page up on this:

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8721/1355newstoryimage013039pa4.jpg

Looks sort of like Chris Cross mixed with Rick Mays but I like it, although I can see people disliking it as well.

[Shyft]

She did get 2 entire issues basically dedicated to her.

She got the first NA issue post CW (I think the rest of the team only showed up in the last 2-3 pages), and the last issue just prior to SI. So she pretty much book ended this chapter of the NA.

It's uneven... and she should have been given some sort of exit if she was leaving. But getting 2 entire issues ain't bad either.

but one of those issues was her dying...

[Hobie Brown]

Sounds really cool. I like Mockingbird's new costume except I am a huge sucker for her old mask and wish that would return.

Yes. I like th enew costume. But they need to keep the old mask. The sunglasses look is just not doing it for me right now.

I am very excited about this series. I have been waiting a long time for Mockingbird's return so I do not mind the $3.99 price tag.

[Trey]

I too, have to think hard about getting 4 dollar minis. Esp. by a writer who has never written a Marvel story, IIRC.

Artist is David Lopez who did Catwoman for a long time, so it should be slick with real good storytelling. Looking forward to this.

[Nevets F]

I too, have to think hard about getting 4 dollar minis. Esp. by a writer who has never written a Marvel story, IIRC.


I understand anyones apprehension in buying a new mini by a writer not really well known (yet), money is tight with everyone. However, I did want to mention that Jim McCann has written for Marvel before. Just last month he wrote a very well received Christmas story that was published online and right before that was his "What If: House of M" story, one of the better received What If's this year (among other short stories he wrote over the years for Marvel). You can also get a taste of his writing, as well as this particular story, by reading the 8 page prologue in the Dark Reign: New Nation book that just came out a couple of weeks ago. It was really well done, and people seem to be pretty impressed with it.

I think combining all of that, with his knowledge of Marvel (considering he has worked for them for the last several years) the obvious research he put into this and his love of the characters, and I think he deserves to be given a chance. I know I am looking forward to it!

Steven

[Will.S]

I understand anyones apprehension in buying a new mini by a writer not really well known (yet), money is tight with everyone. However, I did want to mention that Jim McCann has written for Marvel before. Just last month he wrote a very well received Christmas story that was published online and right before that was his "What If: House of M" story, one of the better received What If's this year (among other short stories he wrote over the years for Marvel). You can also get a taste of his writing, as well as this particular story, by reading the 8 page prologue in the Dark Reign: New Nation book that just came out a couple of weeks ago. It was really well done, and people seem to be pretty impressed with it.

I think combining all of that, with his knowledge of Marvel (considering he has worked for them for the last several years) the obvious research he put into this and his love of the characters, and I think he deserves to be given a chance. I know I am looking forward to it!

Steven
True.

Btw, IGN posted the second issue cover:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2046/newavengersthereunion20vb6.jpg

[The Purple Skull]

Tom Brevoort's blog has a page up on this:

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8721/1355newstoryimage013039pa4.jpg

Looks sort of like Chris Cross mixed with Rick Mays but I like it, although I can see people disliking it as well.
Bobbi's reflection looks a bit skrully to me...

[Tobias March]

Bobbi's reflection looks a bit skrully to me...

A bit!? That's a chin you could grate cheese with.

[DeeSnider]

Bobbi's reflection looks a bit skrully to me...

I certainly hope that is just misdirection or a flashback or somesuch. If not, it seems to directly conflict with what McCann has said in another thread:


I can tell you that it *is* Mockingbird and the reasons behind her actions unfold in the mini. We are done with "is he/she a Skrull?" She has had a long history, including being hardened and mysterious, and the experiences she had while offworld have affected her in ways you are just starting to see.

If she just winds up being a Skrull, I'm going to be furious.

[RonnieThunderbolts]

I certainly hope that is just misdirection or a flashback or somesuch. If not, it seems to directly conflict with what McCann has said in another thread:



If she just winds up being a Skrull, I'm going to be furious.

I don't think that she is a Skrull at all. It would be a direct contradiction of everything they've said at this point. However, it makes sense that Bobbi would be changed by this experience. Perhaps she was left with post hypnotic suggestion to act in a certain way (the Super Skrull has hypnosis powers, and his FF power set has been duplicated time and time again, even before these new Super Skrulls, so them having hypnotic abilities in their repertoire isn't a big leap), or perhaps it is just Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Either way, I think it is Bobbi doubting herself for good reasons, not her being a Skrull.

I too would be disappointed, although probably not furious.

[JdRavnos]

I certainly hope that is just misdirection or a flashback or somesuch. If not, it seems to directly conflict with what McCann has said in another thread:



If she just winds up being a Skrull, I'm going to be furious.

My guess (and it's pretty much just a guess at this point) was that Bobbi's got some Skrull memories in her head, similar to how the Pym Skrull was a bit unstable due to having Pym in his head, Bobbi might have a bit of Skrull in her now, possibly getting some of the memories of the Skrull who took up her appearance in the Savage Land.

[Nevets F]

That new cover is beautiful!

And I trust Jim when he says this is TRULY Bobbi.

[Will.S]

I don't think that she is a Skrull at all. It would be a direct contradiction of everything they've said at this point. However, it makes sense that Bobbi would be changed by this experience. Perhaps she was left with post hypnotic suggestion to act in a certain way (the Super Skrull has hypnosis powers, and his FF power set has been duplicated time and time again, even before these new Super Skrulls, so them having hypnotic abilities in their repertoire isn't a big leap), or perhaps it is just Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Either way, I think it is Bobbi doubting herself for good reasons, not her being a Skrull.

I too would be disappointed, although probably not furious.
Jim had an interview with IGN.com and mentioned some interesting things regarding her stay on the skrull homeworld:


Jim McCann: What I wanted to do was bring a character back and introduce her as if she was a new character. She has spent all this time on the Skrull world, and has picked up a bunch of tricks that she didn't have before. She has the combination of a new attitude and her old one, and she has a new mission in life.

It hit me when I realized she was Mockingbird. She is a Mockingbird. She's spent all this time on the Skrull world, the world of shape-shifters. Something clicked for me there. She has a history of being a spy, to blend in with other cultures and other people. So she's brought back some skills from their world that she can now use to her advantage.

So I'm guessing that while on the skrull homeworld she used a Skrull disguise for a long time and we're seeing memories of that. Either that or she has the ability to shapeshift now but I kind of doubt that.

[Assemble]

True.

Btw, IGN posted the second issue cover:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2046/newavengersthereunion20vb6.jpg

Awesome Will.S... Thank you!

[XPac]

Jim had an interview with IGN.com and mentioned some interesting things regarding her stay on the skrull homeworld:


So I'm guessing that while on the skrull homeworld she used a Skrull disguise for a long time and we're seeing memories of that. Either that or she has the ability to shapeshift now but I kind of doubt that.

I'm betting it's not an actual power... but maybe just an ability to sort of immitate people voices or mannerisms or something. Undercover spy stuff. She can be a master of disguise.