CBR: THE OSBORN SUPREMACY: Iron man

[CBR News]

In this first part of a new feature on Marvel's Dark Reign saga, CBR speaks
with “Invincible Iron Man” writer Matt Fraction about how his series will be affected
by Norman Osborn's power grab in the Marvel Universe.


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19300).

[Your Imaginary Pal]

Know, what. I haven't picked up an iron Man title since before heroes reborn.
This storyline may just bring me back into the armored fold.

What's odd is that it seems all the MU heroe's companies are under fire (well Startk and Rand.anyways) It'll be interesting to see these guys slumming it like spidey. And dogged by norman, like spidey.

consider me on board.

[Monty_Cristo]

i love you, Victoria Hand!

[marvell2100]

i love you, Victoria Hand!

Stark is going to take her from Norman.

[Monty_Cristo]

Stark is going to take her from Norman.

i hope she does the entire marvel universe; except D-Man because he's filthy.

[marvell2100]

i hope she does the entire marvel universe; except D-Man because he's filthy.

She's already taken care of the Thunderbolts. Both old and new. She doesn't waste time.

[Monty_Cristo]

She's already taken care of the Thunderbolts. Both old and new. She doesn't waste time.

i wonder who next will experience a Hand job.

[americocaine]

Its absolutely crazy the amount of people that have referenced using Ellis' version of Osborn to write the stories in Dark Reign. Tbolts wasn't the fastest selling comic at the time and even with the new writer and heavy hints about Dark Reign, it still isn't!

[Monty_Cristo]

Its absolutely crazy the amount of people that have referenced using Ellis' version of Osborn to write the stories in Dark Reign. Tbolts wasn't the fastest selling comic at the time and even with the new writer and heavy hints about Dark Reign, it still isn't!

that's because people are stupid.

[jackolover]

To me, this looks like the death of Tony Stark. We already saw when Tony was in charge, that all opponents were defeated, and if Tony gets defeated by the man in charge this time, he's dead. This just has a fatal feel about it, with Tony on the run, and when he gets caught, Osborn will soon see he has no use for him.

[SquidSquod]

I look to it as the beginning of the rise of the true Tony Stark. Dictator Tony is not really him at his best as 2006 situation forced him to do just that. Just as his origin story was, his best moment comes from when he's cornered. This is it. Pressing times breeds innovation.

Oh yes there are plenty of ways Tony can surprise Osborn so Osborn will need to call his Dark Illuminati associates to join forces. Unlike most heroes, he can make the whole earth as his escape routes.

[Quinnhop]

If Salvador Larroca is going to keep drawing Iron Man, then the following things need to be done:

a) He's going to have to realize that Tony Stark's package would be huge, not nonexistant.

and

b) If Pepper is going to keep looking like Nicole Kidman and Hill is going to keep looking like Rachel Maddows, then I demand Tony look like Robert Downey Jr. and not...a Greek Nathan Fillion.

[Mark_S]

Kinda hard who to know to root for, Tony who I've grown to hate or Osborn who've I've hated for years. But this is marvel, good guys and bad guys are interchangeable. What I am looking forward to seeing is Tony on the run from HAMMER troops the way he put other people on the run from SHIELD troops, and trying to explain to the rest of the hero community that this is different from when he was chasing them. The hypocrisy will practically drip from the page.

Mark_S

[marvell2100]

Kinda hard who to know to root for, Tony who I've grown to hate or Osborn who've I've hated for years. But this is marvel, good guys and bad guys are interchangeable. What I am looking forward to seeing is Tony on the run from HAMMER troops the way he put other people on the run from SHIELD troops, and trying to explain to the rest of the hero community that this is different from when he was chasing them. The hypocrisy will practically drip from the page.

Mark_S

Maybe he will say "You know what? I can see your point."

[jazzypom]

I heard that Larocca was a good artist, but I can't see it. There seems to be inordinate amounts of tracing involved in this comic - and why is Tony Stark looking like that Sawyer guy from lost?

To be honest, I'm glad that Stark has been brought down (and I like the guy). He has to redeem himself, big time. I'm looking forward to it.

But for the love of Pete, change the artist and the muddy digital shading, please. I'm thisclose to dropping the title because of the art.

[Will.S]

If Pepper is going to keep looking like Nicole Kidman and Hill is going to keep looking like Rachel Maddows, then I demand Tony look like Robert Downey Jr. and not...a Greek Nathan Fillion.


I heard that Larocca was a good artist, but I can't see it. There seems to be inordinate amounts of tracing involved in this comic - and why is Tony Stark looking like that Sawyer guy from lost?
I keep seeing people comment on Salvador using actors in the Iron Man book but I don't exactly see it whereas in New Universal is was much more apparent.

Can you guys post reference photos in comparison to the characters in the comic?

[Robodojo]

I keep seeing people comment on Salvador using actors in the Iron Man book but I don't exactly see it whereas in New Universal is was much more apparent.

Can you guys post reference photos in comparison to the characters in the comic?To my eye, Salvador's tracing of Lost's Sawyer (Josh Holloway) is as blatant as I've seen. I googled "Sawyer Lost", and on the very first page I found this picture.

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/761/761957/lost-20070206032442610.jpg

Now look at the first picture of Tony-Sawyer from this preview page.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/invincibleironman/9/INVIM009005_col.jpg

I'd say that's a match. Apparently, even when Sal traces an image, he still can't change the angle of the head to disguise the trace a little better. Most, maybe all, of the shots of Tony Stark in these preview pages look to be traces of Sawyer. I hate this practice by artists, since it takes me out of the story every time I see a famous actor instead of the character they are "playing". Not to mention the question of legality when it comes to stealing someones likeness.

It's enough to cause me to skip this series, even though I would otherwise have given it a shot.

[Will.S]

To my eye, Salvador's tracing of Lost's Sawyer (Josh Holloway) is as blatant as I've seen. I googled "Sawyer Lost", and on the very first page I found this picture.

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/761/761957/lost-20070206032442610.jpg

Now look at the first picture of Tony-Sawyer from this preview page.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/invincibleironman/9/INVIM009005_col.jpg

I'd say that's a match. Apparently, even when Sal traces an image, he still can't change the angle of the head to disguise the trace a little better. Most, maybe all, of the shots of Tony Stark in these preview pages look to be traces of Sawyer. I hate this practice by artists, since it takes me out of the story every time I see a famous actor instead of the character they are "playing". Not to mention the question of legality when it comes to stealing someones likeness.

It's enough to cause me to skip this series, even though I would otherwise have given it a shot.
That's a good comparison but I never even pictured Sawyer when I saw that image.

Perhaps I'm just not that skilled when it comes to hunting down referenced images but I'm not as easily distracted by that sort of thing as others seem to be since that's not something that I look for or notice right away. Although when Greg Land does it it's certainly much more noticeable.

[Ex_]

Am I the only one totally digging the art?

[Robodojo]

That's a good comparison but I never even pictured Sawyer when I saw that image.

Perhaps I'm just not that skilled when it comes to hunting down referenced images but I'm not as easily distracted by that sort of thing as others seem to be since that's not something that I look for or notice right away. Although when Greg Land does it it's certainly much more noticeable.I don't think it's about skill so much as I'm a fan of LOST, so I'm used to seeing Sawyer's mug and it's all over these preview pages. It's probably a personal taste thing, as some people don't mind photo-referenced comic art and others find it very distracting, particularly in the case of well-known actors being used. I dislike the practice, and as a result I don't buy books with heavy doses of it (that very much includes Greg Land).