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pariah-1972
12-15-2008, 09:34 PM
So apparently there's a war in hell and it's all based on Satan promoting hope?

and somehow this is going to affect all the magical being's in the Dcu?

Oook did anyone else read this ?


The backup strip features Dr. Occult talking to Ralph and Sue about what's going to happen with the war in hell.


I'm not crazy about the art on either strips but the first one was really over the top and i thought the inking looked sloppy.

the second one had art by Stephen Segovia and that's not his best work either.

I'm not sure i will be picking up the rest of this series.
the4thpip
12-16-2008, 04:08 AM
I love love love that "sloppy" inking by the masterful Bill Sienkievicz. It's pretty much the only reason I am getting this series.

Philistine.
Sean Walsh
12-16-2008, 07:58 AM
I've decided to drop it. Giffen was getting really good with writing solid stories, but this one doesn't work. Seems kinda aimless.

The art's been great, though; primarily because of Sienkiewicz's inks. His art itself can be scary, but sometimes when inking a good artist like Denerick - who's a bit bland at times, no offense - the results looks remarkable.

(He also inked Sal Buscema during the Spidey Clone Saga, and while it was a VAST change in style at the time, I've grown to really like it)

I also liked Segovia's art on the backup, but there've been fill in artists and that killed the vibe that story had going.
Shellhead
12-16-2008, 08:03 AM
A more accurate title would have been Reign in the Quarter Bins.
pariah-1972
12-16-2008, 02:39 PM
I love love love that "sloppy" inking by the masterful Bill Sienkievicz. It's pretty much the only reason I am getting this series.

Philistine.LoL that's the funniest thing I've ever been called.

I'm just not a fan of his at all and i think he is highly overrated.

Each to there own eh?
Pixie_Solanas
12-16-2008, 02:54 PM
I'm reading it, but my LCS owner has already told me i'm the only one, and that he's not even stocking it on the shelves anymore.
pariah-1972
12-16-2008, 03:14 PM
I'm reading it, but my LCS owner has already told me i'm the only one, and that he's not even stocking it on the shelves anymore.Is this crossing over into anything?
Pixie_Solanas
12-16-2008, 04:05 PM
Is this crossing over into anything?

Not really, pretty self-contained.
pariah-1972
12-16-2008, 04:27 PM
Not really, pretty self-contained.That probably explains why it's not doing so well.


Not to mention i associate Keith Giffen with Funny comics.
Redchief
12-16-2008, 06:01 PM
With the return of Lobo in hell (who previously refused to allow him in, therefore making Lobo immortal/unkillable), I'm going to continue reading. The idea of Blaze and Satanus using the platform of Hope and Change to take Hell over is rather subversive.
pariah-1972
12-16-2008, 06:29 PM
I thought it was pretty funny and weird that the Chimp detective and the sorceress chick were hanging out in a cafe and there was some lady looking rather astonished.

sort of makes me nostalgic for them:frown:
the4thpip
12-17-2008, 05:52 AM
With the return of Lobo in hell (who previously refused to allow him in, therefore making Lobo immortal/unkillable), I'm going to continue reading. The idea of Blaze and Satanus using the platform of Hope and Change to take Hell over is rather subversive.

I kind of hate retcons like that, though.

Don't like what some writers did with Thanos? They were all clones! Dr Doom acting out of character? Robots! Elektra? Skrull! Other people wrote your Lobo? It was a fake Lobo created by Neron!

And why not just say it was another clone of Lobo? He is the ONE character where no one would blink at the mention of clones.
pariah-1972
12-17-2008, 06:36 AM
With the return of Lobo in hell (who previously refused to allow him in, therefore making Lobo immortal/unkillable), I'm going to continue reading. The idea of Blaze and Satanus using the platform of Hope and Change to take Hell over is rather subversive.I've been wondering if that's some sort of political statement on our president elect.
But it just seems too bizarre.
the4thpip
12-17-2008, 09:11 AM
It's basically a sequel to the Helmet of Fate specials, the Dr Fate mini, Shadow Pact and this Superboy issue:

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/2542/400/2542_4_34.jpg
pariah-1972
12-17-2008, 04:30 PM
It's basically a sequel to the Helmet of Fate specials, the Dr Fate mini, Shadow Pact and this Superboy issue:

http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/2542/400/2542_4_34.jpgI bet i used to have that comic as a kid :eek: