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emperorkang
12-14-2008, 06:13 PM
It just doesn't make any sense. They had undercover agents, they attaked with a massive fleet, they even had an army of super skrulls. There was no way they could have lost and yet they did. They were beaten by earth's mightiest weapon. The deus ex machina, and it pisses me off to no end. It's no wonder they hate Richards. He finds a way to beat them in 10 seconds, with his skrull detector, and then Thor teleports everyone to fight. All the skrulls get killed and only a couple of heroes die. Are you kidding me. They should have won. They have the superior weapons, tech, powers, and numbers. It's like the end of return of the Jedi all over again. They blew up the death star, and the rebels win, end of story. The end. But they still had a fleet and soldiers across the galaxy. The same is true with the skrulls. Is anyone else upset that Earth always wins no matter what, even though they shouldn't.

DeadXMan
12-14-2008, 06:15 PM
cause our Gods killed their Gods

:tongue:

RDMacQ
12-14-2008, 06:17 PM
Yeah, the ending was wrapped up a little too neatly. The Skrulls have a massive spacefleet yet are taken out by a handful of superpowered humans. Seems a little too convenient to me. But what do you expect? They wasted 5 issues tromping around the savage land and needed to wrap the thing up quickly. So ALAKAZAM, bad guys are defeated.

DarKye
12-14-2008, 06:23 PM
They messed up by going public. Their generic super skrulls were useless.
They gave the Earthlings an ugly green chin to kick, what did they think was going to happen?


Also, what DeadXMan said.

DeadXMan
12-14-2008, 06:23 PM
they were a hand full of Pissed of superheroes

those that were up therewas what 50-70 power levals, a pissed off God of thunder at 100+ ,a pissed off God of War, and a pissed off duck humaniod from an alternite dimention

DeadXMan
12-14-2008, 06:26 PM
They messed up by going public. Their generic super skrulls were useless.
They gave the Earthlings an ugly green chin to kick, what did they think was going to happen?


Also, what DeadXMan said.

thank you.

about their Super Skrulls.

they were a bunch of Rookies

if they had the same level of experience as Kl'rt. Earth would be theirs

XPac
12-14-2008, 06:30 PM
I think the biggest problem is that they went into the Invasion with the wrong mentality.

The thought that if they showed up, earth would just kind of go with the flow. They were a bit naive in that way. They didn't really hammer earth, it's military, or its government. They're a bunch of religions zeolots bought their own propaganda without realizing the earth wouldn't, and it cost them.

DeadXMan
12-14-2008, 06:39 PM
I think the biggest problem is that they went into the Invasion with the wrong mentality.

The thought that if they showed up, earth would just kind of go with the flow. They were a bit naive in that way. They didn't really hammer earth, it's military, or its government. They're a bunch of religions zeolots bought their own propaganda without realizing the earth wouldn't, and it cost them.

especially us Americans.

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5828/americafr1.jpg

Expletive Deleted
12-14-2008, 06:40 PM
The Skrulls were religious zealots who didn't even consider the possibility that they could lose. So . . . they lost.

Omega Alpha
12-14-2008, 06:58 PM
I think the biggest problem is that they went into the Invasion with the wrong mentality.

The thought that if they showed up, earth would just kind of go with the flow. They were a bit naive in that way. They didn't really hammer earth, it's military, or its government. They're a bunch of religions zeolots bought their own propaganda without realizing the earth wouldn't, and it cost them.

Yeah, pretty much. They didn't understood how Earth could not see them as their saviors and don't offer much resistance, apart from the terrorist here or there. Sounds familiar?

Arishem
12-14-2008, 08:56 PM
Why? Because Marvel and Bendis weren't bold enough to kill off some of the more major characters and writing an intelligent story. They present a great concept to get your money not nothing of substance. Tie-ins were great but the lack of respect towards the Skrull is just insulting to me. Yeah, they're fanatics but that's not an excuse for them not taking over Earth or killing off some major named heroes.


Even with Rookie Skrulls, the powers they wield would certainly kill some of the heroes they fought. Yet all you have was a jobbing of proportions where the heroes had one loss while he Skrulls dropped like flies.

DeadXMan
12-14-2008, 08:59 PM
you mean besides wasp, one of the eariest super heroines from the silver age and founding member of the avengers, right?

the SS were blasting enery at ms. Marvel left and right

they were powering her up as she lay waste to the the shock troops

the only thing more stuipd was being in a hallway with Norman as spiderman or using deadpool as source of for Super skrulls

Monty_Cristo
12-14-2008, 09:40 PM
I think the biggest problem is that they went into the Invasion with the wrong mentality.

The thought that if they showed up, earth would just kind of go with the flow. They were a bit naive in that way. They didn't really hammer earth, it's military, or its government. They're a bunch of religions zeolots bought their own propaganda without realizing the earth wouldn't, and it cost them.

Earth did go with the flow. it was the superfolk that revolted. take superfolk out of the equation and the Earth belongs to the skrulls.

ANewHope
12-14-2008, 09:44 PM
Well if you read the Secret Invasion tie-ins, you got a glimpse at the skrull armada failing across the world due to the efforts of Earth's super heros.

If you want to see more Skrull devastation, check out more tie-ins. Like the Black Panther or Captain Britian MI 13.

The battle that started in Secret Invasion 7 and ended with 8, was the final battle. If the skrulls had won there, then we would had a different story.

DeadXMan
12-15-2008, 12:25 AM
Earth did go with the flow. it was the superfolk that revolted. take superfolk out of the equation and the Earth belongs to the skrulls.

please, it was the same group of idiots that cheered Hulk on

I hope Norman rounds them up.

damn neo commies :mad:

James Conniff
12-15-2008, 02:07 AM
cause our Gods killed their Gods

:tongue:

And My God has a Hammer.

Crimson
12-15-2008, 02:13 AM
Why? Because Marvel and Bendis weren't bold enough to kill off some of the more major characters and writing an intelligent story. They present a great concept to get your money not nothing of substance. Tie-ins were great but the lack of respect towards the Skrull is just insulting to me. Yeah, they're fanatics but that's not an excuse for them not taking over Earth or killing off some major named heroes.


Even with Rookie Skrulls, the powers they wield would certainly kill some of the heroes they fought. Yet all you have was a jobbing of proportions where the heroes had one loss while he Skrulls dropped like flies.

Is it really bold to kill off a major character or two? I mean the auidence just sit back, roll their eyes and say "They'll be back in two years". And lets face it, they'd be right.

I'd rather them kill of someone like Wasp who people could sort of buy might not come back, atleast for a long tome.

Crimson
12-15-2008, 02:14 AM
Why? Because Marvel and Bendis weren't bold enough to kill off some of the more major characters and writing an intelligent story. They present a great concept to get your money not nothing of substance. Tie-ins were great but the lack of respect towards the Skrull is just insulting to me. Yeah, they're fanatics but that's not an excuse for them not taking over Earth or killing off some major named heroes.


Even with Rookie Skrulls, the powers they wield would certainly kill some of the heroes they fought. Yet all you have was a jobbing of proportions where the heroes had one loss while he Skrulls dropped like flies.

Is it really bold to kill off a major character or two? I mean the auidence just sit back, roll their eyes and say "They'll be back in two years". And lets face it, they'd be right.

I'd rather them kill of someone like Wasp who people could sort of buy might not come back, atleast for a long tome.

Karthak
12-15-2008, 05:52 AM
please, it was the same group of idiots that cheered Hulk on

I hope Norman rounds them up.

damn neo commies :mad:

Oh, so it's communist to want the earth to be ruled by people who aren't doing their best to make it uninhabitable?

Gunsmith
12-15-2008, 06:26 AM
Never felt the skrulls were bad guys, they need earth to survive all the shit that happen to them. Hell if I remember correctly after they won, they want to give earthlings skrulls citizenship

CyberCoyote
12-15-2008, 06:58 AM
The Earth is very big and heavy. Even though they can change shape it would still crush them. :biggrin:

XPac
12-15-2008, 07:24 AM
Earth did go with the flow. it was the superfolk that revolted. take superfolk out of the equation and the Earth belongs to the skrulls.

I think that's only true in the US, where the Stark tech driven US government was pretty much knocked out of commision for the day and a half the invasion took place. In other places like the Savage Land, the UK, and Wakanda the people rose up to fight the skrulls. Without some superhero assistance they probably would have gotten their butts kicked... but I don't think they were exactly going with the flow either.

Mia
12-15-2008, 10:09 AM
Yeah, the ending was wrapped up a little too neatly. The Skrulls have a massive spacefleet yet are taken out by a handful of superpowered humans. Seems a little too convenient to me. But what do you expect? They wasted 5 issues tromping around the savage land and needed to wrap the thing up quickly. So ALAKAZAM, bad guys are defeated.

I agree. I have a feeling that nothing is as it seems. I believe that the Skrulls allowed that fight to happen, and make it look as if the heroes won, so that they could carry on their work un-moslested. I would not be surprised if the Skrulls were living on earth disguised as humans. Waiting for some sort of act II to take place.

Now I could be wrong. But I can't believe that Marvel is that sloppy.

The Skrulls were religious zealots who didn't even consider the possibility that they could lose. So . . . they lost.

That doesn't make sense considering the amount of subterfuge and planning which was involved in invading the earth. I think that if the Skrulls were driven by some notion that they could not have lost. They would have merely carried out some heavy duty 'command and control' military campaign.

gorthon616
12-15-2008, 10:12 AM
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5828/americafr1.jpg

YES. God bless America, I love this place so goddamn much.

gorthon616
12-15-2008, 10:13 AM
It just doesn't make any sense. They had undercover agents, they attaked with a massive fleet, they even had an army of super skrulls. There was no way they could have lost and yet they did. They were beaten by earth's mightiest weapon. The deus ex machina, and it pisses me off to no end. It's no wonder they hate Richards. He finds a way to beat them in 10 seconds, with his skrull detector, and then Thor teleports everyone to fight. All the skrulls get killed and only a couple of heroes die. Are you kidding me. They should have won. They have the superior weapons, tech, powers, and numbers. It's like the end of return of the Jedi all over again. They blew up the death star, and the rebels win, end of story. The end. But they still had a fleet and soldiers across the galaxy. The same is true with the skrulls. Is anyone else upset that Earth always wins no matter what, even though they shouldn't.

And yeah, it doesn't make sense. And more importantly it wasn't a compelling story either.

celticguy
12-15-2008, 01:11 PM
They tried to occupy not conquer, It was not just a land grab they were going to take charge of Earth but not kill everyone. Well reed Richards would have been toast but not the rest. It is hard to occupy a place that most of the population does not want you.

Also they do not seem to have counted on Fury, Norman and Thor to name a few.

CyberCoyote
12-15-2008, 02:16 PM
They tried to occupy not conquer, It was not just a land grab they were going to take charge of Earth but not kill everyone. Well reed Richards would have been toast but not the rest. It is hard to occupy a place that most of the population does not want you.

Also they do not seem to have counted on Fury, Norman and Thor to name a few.

How could they? They only planned the invasion for 'decades'.. but with the sliding scale the FF launch was 10 years ago.. so.. uh.. forget that idea :rolleyes:

jackolover
12-15-2008, 02:22 PM
Why? Because Marvel and Bendis weren't bold enough to kill off some of the more major characters and writing an intelligent story. They present a great concept to get your money not nothing of substance. Tie-ins were great but the lack of respect towards the Skrull is just insulting to me. Yeah, they're fanatics but that's not an excuse for them not taking over Earth or killing off some major named heroes.


Even with Rookie Skrulls, the powers they wield would certainly kill some of the heroes they fought. Yet all you have was a jobbing of proportions where the heroes had one loss while he Skrulls dropped like flies.

Just goes to show, doesn't it? Don't mess with the humans The Skrulls thought they had it easy. Infiltrate a few humans; make a few strategic moves that put the human at a disadvantage, and bingo, you have yourself another Skrull planet.

It was FF #2 all over again. Skrulls think all they have to do is show up. Humans are Skrulls, but with a little more savagery. Like the Skrulls said, humans are little more than amoebas, but those amoebas are very protective. The Skrulls should have remembered the Kree experience. They put the Kree and a sentient plant species together on a planet and asked them to fight it out. The Kree stole the Skrull Tech and made them pay for underestimating savagery. Humans are just as unevolved, and the Skrull are surprised they have another Kree species on their hands? You can't defeat a species like the humans with subtlety. You have to use a hammer, and they went in with subtlety. Big mistake.

jhota
12-15-2008, 03:25 PM
let this be a lesson to you: don't **** around with the God of Thunder.

DeadXMan
12-15-2008, 05:55 PM
Oh, so it's communist to want the earth to be ruled by people who aren't doing their best to make it uninhabitable?

Green is the new Red, comrade. :evilangry:

Will.S
12-15-2008, 05:58 PM
They tried to occupy not conquer, It was not just a land grab they were going to take charge of Earth but not kill everyone. Well reed Richards would have been toast but not the rest. It is hard to occupy a place that most of the population does not want you.

Also they do not seem to have counted on Fury, Norman and Thor to name a few.
Norman and Fury were certainly much bigger wildcards since they fluctuated the most throughout the years in general MU activity.

DeadXMan
12-15-2008, 06:02 PM
And My God has a Hammer.

you mean a Big %&%$ing Hammer:biggrin:

stelok
12-15-2008, 09:15 PM
Good guys always win. Evil cannot triumph over good. Game over.

Monty_Cristo
12-15-2008, 09:25 PM
Good guys always win. Evil cannot triumph over good. Game over.

is that reality? isn't the reverse also true? Good will occassionally lose to evil. the only way we even become aware of evil is when it has achieved a win. and it always comes back. for example, what are the chances that the Marvel Universe will end up a Utopia? now what are the odds that it will end up an apocalyptic wasteland?

Kusanagi
12-15-2008, 11:56 PM
is that reality? isn't the reverse also true? Good will occassionally lose to evil. the only way we even become aware of evil is when it has achieved a win. and it always comes back. for example, what are the chances that the Marvel Universe will end up a Utopia? now what are the odds that it will end up an apocalyptic wasteland?

0 and 0, welcome to the Marvel universe where the status qou can be slightly changed but never be out and out destroyed. Comparing it to the real world is pure folly. You'll never get any of those scenarios, unless it's yet another poorly done Dark Knight ripoff.

As for the invasion, they lost because they didn't go for the juggular number one. They wanted the earth to blindly accept them and their god, and the heroes said nuts to that we'll just punch you really hard.

Number 2 They planned to, but failed to take Reed, I make plot devices every other day, Richards out of the fight. Half of their plan relied on earths heroes not being able to trust one another. When that went out the window, they were hosed.

Number 3: Wild Cards. Post civil war. Cap was dead, Nick Fury was on the run, Thor was dead, and Norman Osborn was a complete non entity to them. They probably should have known half that shit couldn't last, and it bit them in the nuts when it did.

Number 4: Their Skrulls, they ain't that bright to begin with. See Deadpool 1-3 :tongue:

Joe Franklin
12-16-2008, 12:11 AM
Want the correct answer?

Look no farther then the make believe fantasy land that is comic books. Comic book superheroes and aliens are fiction, and therefore subject to the writer's whims. Want a real life war story? Watch the History Channel.:wink:

Jake V
12-16-2008, 12:17 AM
is that reality? isn't the reverse also true? Good will occassionally lose to evil. the only way we even become aware of evil is when it has achieved a win. and it always comes back. for example, what are the chances that the Marvel Universe will end up a Utopia? now what are the odds that it will end up an apocalyptic wasteland?

Its the underlying structure that exists in all superhero comics. Evil will always exist, and as powerful as it gets, good will always defeat it.

Karthak
12-16-2008, 01:14 AM
Its the underlying structure that exists in all superhero comics. Evil will always exist, and as powerful as it gets, good will always defeat it.

But what is good, and what is evil? For example, the skrulls see Reed Richards as the villain of all villains, and given that he ressurected the guy who ATE THEIR THRONEWORLD (Galactus) I'd say they have a point.

Kusanagi
12-16-2008, 11:59 AM
Now that I think about it, you can kind of say evil got the upper hand in SI with Norman being given an upgrade. Of course he was the lesser of two evils in the story.

The Scarlet Sapien
12-16-2008, 12:19 PM
I'd have figured that that the Skrulls defeat would have been from within-for instance all these suped-up Super Skrulls running around all of a sudden. If it were my story I'd establish that the process for creating so many Super Skrulls so quickly and inexpensivelly was defective. Their powers would be shown to be prone to fading or malfunctioning. Also, I would have made their enhanced abiliities to impersonate Humans, problematic in that more of them would begin to see themselves or at least switch their loyalties to the Human Side. Of course we saw some of this with the skrull versions of Pym and Marvell. I'm surprised Marvel didn't make more use of these kinds of ideas. I could have sworn that the fore shadowing was there. The Skrulls really seemed less like mustache twisters as they usually do. Also, I'm a little dissapointed that given everything the Skrulls knew about Human and Superhuman Dna that they didn't have a process for Transforming humans into skrulls then brainwashing them into thinking they were skrulls all along. I'm no writer, though just another fanboy with some writerly like powers.

jackolover
12-16-2008, 02:46 PM
I noticed that Bendis doesn't really write with a deus ex machina as his punch line, like WWH and CW. In WWH Iron Man pulled a sattelite network out and depowered the Hulk - game over. In CW Cap cried and saw the error of his ways - game over. But with Bendis' Skrulls, you can't point to any one thing that defeated the Skrulls. They were given setbacks on multiple fronts. My thinking is that Bendis doesn't give you clean wins, in that he leaves the reader with the feeling that something happened, but it was a lot of things that made it impossible for the Skrulls to win. Like WWII, you had a lot of moves on a chess board over the whole world, to defeat the Axis powers, The Russian front, the American Front, the Italian and Egyptian fronts, the Japanese front. You couldn't point to one 'Norman Osborn' and say - This is the guy that won WWII.

But in SI, Norman Osborn didn't defeat the Skrulls. If all the other setbacks didn't happen around the world, shooting Veranke in the head wouldn't have finished anything. The other Skrull armada forces would still be out there.

marvell2100
12-16-2008, 03:22 PM
It just doesn't make any sense. They had undercover agents, they attaked with a massive fleet, they even had an army of super skrulls. There was no way they could have lost and yet they did. They were beaten by earth's mightiest weapon. The deus ex machina, and it pisses me off to no end. It's no wonder they hate Richards. He finds a way to beat them in 10 seconds, with his skrull detector, and then Thor teleports everyone to fight. All the skrulls get killed and only a couple of heroes die. Are you kidding me. They should have won. They have the superior weapons, tech, powers, and numbers. It's like the end of return of the Jedi all over again. They blew up the death star, and the rebels win, end of story. The end. But they still had a fleet and soldiers across the galaxy. The same is true with the skrulls. Is anyone else upset that Earth always wins no matter what, even though they shouldn't.

Well it basically boils down to this. The biggest mistake that the Skrulls made was killing our dog. You just don't do that. You can take a man's job. You can rob him, you can beat him, you can call him Sally. Sometimes you can kill his family and still be ok(beware of Frank Castle, though). But if you mess around and kill his dog, you just effed yourself up. It's been proven throughout history and the movies. Remember Pale RIder with Clint Eastwood. Now as long as those roughnecks were just tearing up the campsite and knocking down old people, they were fine. But when they killed that little girl's dog? Aww man you just knew they were gonna die. That's why Clint came to town. Revenge for the dog.

Another point. Sudden Impact with Clint Eastwood. These guys were going around raping and killing people. Clint was a little upset about it but he was still cool. Then he came back to the hotel room and saw his dead black friend on the floor. You could tell he was sad. But when he saw that they shot his dog, all hell broke loose and he brought out the Magnum and started blowing frisbee-sized holes thru people.

Final point. Old Yeller. I know you all remember this movie. About a family in the early 20th century who adopted this lovable old dog. The dog loved his family and defended them against all threats. But then came the fateful day when Yeller was bitten by a rabid animal while defending his little boy. Unfortunately Yeller got rabies and was soon foaming at the mouth. He was foaming at the mouth and ready to rip their throats out AND THEY STILL DIDN'T WANT TO KILL THE DOG!!!

So a lesson to all you would be evil-doers, alien invaders, world conquerers and terrible tyrants. You can blow up our cities, you can ruin our homes, you can destroy our way of life. But just remember, you'd better not kill our dog.

PatchMadripoor
12-16-2008, 03:40 PM
The skrulls didn't stick to the skrull plan and continue to remain hidden, nor did they kill off the heroes they replaced. They didn't kill, just contained.

Further, they did not fully compromise all of the teams from within. Just one agent in each state/super team? The skrulls should've done a "body snatchers" scenario, and keep turning the heroes paranoia on one another.

carabas
12-16-2008, 03:55 PM
Yep.
If the Skrulls had really known what they were doing, they'd have a majority in the senate, both parties, supreme court, UN security council, and several 100% Skrull superhero teams, loved by the people of earth.

But I think Secret Invasion as it was executed was not even close to the storu Bendis had in mind fo all this time. Being bumped up from 6 issues ofAvengers to 50+ issues of everything horribly mutated the story, IMO.

And I don't believe for a second that Spider-Woman was supposed to be Skrull royalty back in those early arcs of New Avengers.
I mean, it is called SECRET Invasion.

Omega Alpha
12-16-2008, 04:57 PM
How could they? They only planned the invasion for 'decades'.. but with the sliding scale the FF launch was 10 years ago.. so.. uh.. forget that idea :rolleyes:

By the time of SI, Fury, Thor and Osborn were dead or irrelevant. So no reason for the :rolleyes:

Capt USA
12-16-2008, 05:11 PM
as far as invasions goes, this was one of the worse executed in the history of comics. I mean was there a real plan by the Skrulls to win? they had tremendous preparation, probably one of the best prepared invasions ever, then it went to crap in execution. Screw the religious zealot aspect, why didn't they get people into power and enact laws to make it easier? they focused on the super hero population without even considering the rest of humanity, and then they waste a tremendous setup for a head on invasion. Really? A head on invasion with advance technology, shapeshifting and super powers and they focus all their resources onto one battle and got stomped.

I don't understand what they were thinking. I'm hoping that it's revealed in a couple of years that the majority of non-super Skrulls replaced the thousands of humans killed and are living among humans now, and that the actual "invasion" was a ruse to focus attention on the battle and provide an easy way to infiltrate the Earth.

jackolover
12-16-2008, 05:58 PM
as far as invasions goes, this was one of the worse executed in the history of comics. I mean was there a real plan by the Skrulls to win? they had tremendous preparation, probably one of the best prepared invasions ever, then it went to crap in execution. Screw the religious zealot aspect, why didn't they get people into power and enact laws to make it easier? they focused on the super hero population without even considering the rest of humanity, and then they waste a tremendous setup for a head on invasion. Really? A head on invasion with advance technology, shapeshifting and super powers and they focus all their resources onto one battle and got stomped.

I don't understand what they were thinking. I'm hoping that it's revealed in a couple of years that the majority of non-super Skrulls replaced the thousands of humans killed and are living among humans now, and that the actual "invasion" was a ruse to focus attention on the battle and provide an easy way to infiltrate the Earth.

That would be cool. A fake invasion, letting the zealots make idiots of themselves, and the real invasion is going on behind everyones backs. But I wonder if Reed Richards Skrull detector factors into any of those scenarios, and whether Osborn doesn't become very cautious.

marvell2100
12-16-2008, 06:20 PM
My question would be would do they continue to try and invade Earth? I mean we've just about used up all the natural resources. We don't like doing hard labor that much any more. They gotta work out union contracts and pension plans and health benefits and 401ks and social security and the mortgage crisis. And don't even think about trying to control the population. We're like tribbles! Nope I just can't see why they keep showing up. I think the Skrulls really like us and just use the invasions as an excuse to come hang around with us for a while.

Oh, and they like watching American Idol and Survivor

Will.S
12-16-2008, 06:31 PM
And I don't believe for a second that Spider-Woman was supposed to be Skrull royalty back in those early arcs of New Avengers.
I mean, it is called SECRET Invasion.
It is a lot to take in but at the same time given the clues there it doesn't seem all that far fetched.

Capt USA
12-16-2008, 06:55 PM
That would be cool. A fake invasion, letting the zealots make idiots of themselves, and the real invasion is going on behind everyones backs. But I wonder if Reed Richards Skrull detector factors into any of those scenarios, and whether Osborn doesn't become very cautious.

I was concerned about that also, but I've figured that maybe his skrull detector is designed to detect the 'super' skrull energies and don't work on standard skrulls (which is part of the reason that my theory could work, they intentionally left something detectable for Reed to detect so that he could implement his Skrull detectors and feel confident)

Scavenger
12-16-2008, 07:46 PM
as far as invasions goes, this was one of the worse executed in the history of comics. .


You only say that because an Invasion the Skrulls spent years building to began and ended in what, a couple of hours? and it came down to "Make the Wasp blow up!"
':rolleyes: indeed!

jackolover
12-16-2008, 09:52 PM
I was concerned about that also, but I've figured that maybe his skrull detector is designed to detect the 'super' skrull energies and don't work on standard skrulls (which is part of the reason that my theory could work, they intentionally left something detectable for Reed to detect so that he could implement his Skrull detectors and feel confident)

It does seem like the super heroes just went, "Well, that's over. Nothing to worry about anymore. Besides Norman Osborn is the next big theng. Skrulls are so passe'". This whole invasion just suddenly stopped, and leaves it open for future stories.

Expletive Deleted
12-17-2008, 06:50 AM
Screw the religious zealot aspect, why didn't they get people into power and enact laws to make it easier?Because they thought they didn't have to, because they were religious zealots.

The zealotry was the whole point. If they weren't zealots, they'd have been more effective, sure, but that would've missed the point. Batman would be more effective if he carried a gun, but he wouldn't do that, because he's Batman.

vitruvian
12-17-2008, 10:20 AM
Yep.
If the Skrulls had really known what they were doing, they'd have a majority in the senate, both parties, supreme court, UN security council, and several 100% Skrull superhero teams, loved by the people of earth.

But I think Secret Invasion as it was executed was not even close to the storu Bendis had in mind fo all this time. Being bumped up from 6 issues ofAvengers to 50+ issues of everything horribly mutated the story, IMO.

And I don't believe for a second that Spider-Woman was supposed to be Skrull royalty back in those early arcs of New Avengers.
I mean, it is called SECRET Invasion.

If the Skrulls really knew what they were doing, they wouldn't have bothered much with impersonating specific humans; they would have just infiltrated the dairy industry as cows and infected the entire human population (except the lactose-intolerant, of course) with their DNA, rendering the population a mass of highly suggestible shapeshifters ready to be assimilated by/into the Skrull empire at a word.

celticguy
12-17-2008, 10:32 AM
Its the underlying structure that exists in all superhero comics. Evil will always exist, and as powerful as it gets, good will always defeat it.

But the Skrulls did not view what they were doing as evil, no morethan missionaries who came to the new world thought they were doing evil to the natives.

The skrulls lost in the story because of planning, they set up well but did not have a good exit strategy.

Kid Kamikaze10
12-17-2008, 10:33 AM
If the Skrulls really knew what they were doing, they wouldn't have bothered much with impersonating specific humans; they would have just infiltrated the dairy industry as cows and infected the entire human population (except the lactose-intolerant, of course) with their DNA, rendering the population a mass of highly suggestible shapeshifters ready to be assimilated by/into the Skrull empire at a word.

True dat...

celticguy
12-17-2008, 10:37 AM
If the Skrulls really knew what they were doing, they wouldn't have bothered much with impersonating specific humans; they would have just infiltrated the dairy industry as cows and infected the entire human population (except the lactose-intolerant, of course) with their DNA, rendering the population a mass of highly suggestible shapeshifters ready to be assimilated by/into the Skrull empire at a word.

or they could have invades in one of the millions of cites 90% of the superhero population does not live in. Establish a beachhead and work out from there.