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Gef
12-11-2008, 07:53 AM
Ok, two easy questions, but for the life of me I can't find a definitive answer. I suspect the answer to both of these is actually yes AND no!

1. Does Lex Luthor know that Clark Kent is Superman?
2. Is Jonathan Kent alive or dead?

And I'm taking the mainstream Superman continuity, not All-Star Superman or any other strand like that. I take "mainstream" to mean the regular Action Comics/Superman comic books, unless they have specifically featured alternate timeline stories.

4thHorseman
12-11-2008, 07:57 AM
1. No, Lex refuses to believe that Superman would be the stumbling idiot that is Clark Kent. In the past 20 years, there has been times where he's been hinted it's Clark, but has thrown it away because it makes no sense to him. During the "Ending Battle" arc, he did know it due to Manchester Black, but then forgot it all at the end of the arc.

2. Jonathan Kent died a few issues ago in Action Comics.

Gef
12-11-2008, 08:03 AM
Hmm, if Jonathan Kent died a few issues ago in Action Comics, how does Superman go to the Kent Farm and talk to him in Superman Beyond #1?

4thHorseman
12-11-2008, 08:08 AM
I believe Final Crisis happens before the events of the Brainiac arc

Gef
12-11-2008, 08:11 AM
Aha! Not that this is the first time Jonathan had died, I assume (but that's another discussion).

4thHorseman
12-11-2008, 08:16 AM
I'm not familiar with Pre-Crisis Supes, but I believe he was dead then too. Not to mention Smallville, the Donner films....

Gef
12-11-2008, 08:46 AM
...the George Reeves TV series, All-Star Superman, etc. Certainly the death of Jonathan Kent is an established part of the mythos.

Mat001
12-11-2008, 11:48 AM
Hmm, if Jonathan Kent died a few issues ago in Action Comics, how does Superman go to the Kent Farm and talk to him in Superman Beyond #1?

He doesn't because that didn't happen in that book. It happened in "DC Universe: Last Will & Testament" and that's because no one told Meltzer to follow continuity to the T. Hence that same book has Batman with Robin and Nightwing when Bruce was already locked up in Command D.

I believe Final Crisis happens before the events of the Brainiac arc

Other way around.