The First Arc of Adventure Comics, (Spoilers)

[Karl O'Neill]

Heads up, I found this on comic bloc, where i post also.


The First arc of Adventure Comics, Spoilers Ahoy!



The following is from an interview with Dan Didio that was in the new Wizard Platinum issue. There are spoilers.
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He said in the interview "We're launching a new Adventure Comics series and the first team and the first group in the first series of stories will be Mon-El and the Legionnaires."

So it looks like Adventure Comics is going to have a rotating cast, but the Legion will be up first.

[Chitty]

Heads up, I found this on comic bloc, where i post also.


The First arc of Adventure Comics, Spoilers Ahoy!



The following is from an interview with Dan Didio that was in the new Wizard Platinum issue. There are spoilers.
.
.


He said in the interview "We're launching a new Adventure Comics series and the first team and the first group in the first series of stories will be Mon-El and the Legionnaires."

So it looks like Adventure Comics is going to have a rotating cast, but the Legion will be up first.


Nice! Thanks for the heads up! I am really looking forward to that series.

[Lupek]

Good looking out General, thanks.

Mon-El is one of my favorites so this sounds especially good. I hope Aquaman is part of the rotating cast.

[Karl O'Neill]

I need to know who is writing if first, and which artist will be drawing it.

hopefully johns or JMS!.

[Retro315]

All right.

I imagine Adventure will be post-Legion of 3 Worlds ... no word on whether or not Superman will be in there though ... interesting.

Now, rotating stars is awesome because historically, both Supes and the Legion AND Aquaman have starred in Adventure Comics ... so if that's the case ... and this book is a kind of "story arc showcase" for DC's top artists, that could be awesome. Kind of like 52, but one at a time and not as insane on the writers.

I'd like to see a nice Aquaman arc by a top-tier writer after the Legion story ... and then maybe another six part Rucka Question arc ...

[Karl O'Neill]

Aquaman starred in Adventure comics? hmm

[celticguy]

I wonder if you can read anthing into the phrase the first team, and this will rotate teams. If so The Metal Men and Doom Patrol could be on deck.

[Zero Hunter]

I think that would be very cool. I have always been more of a team book guy over solo characters so that would defiently be great if thats how it ends up.

[COMIC GEEK]

are we gonna get 100 pages for just a buck?

If they want to revisit comics from the 70's lets also see the same prices :wink:

[Chemical King]

The question is: Which version of the Legion will it be? Even if the L3W mini will have some definite say about the future of the Legion, Adventure Comics could also be doing flashbacks so there might be

a) a last story of the Threeboot Legion
b) some missing stories of the Reboot Legion or
c) a new story about the probably reestablished near-classic Legion

As the results of L3W are far from certain thus far, every other mix of the three possibilities is another option... I'm getting a headache already :redface:

As a Legion fan, I am not happy with Adventure showing a rotating cast. This could mean that we would have to wait another year for a second storyarc.

The only possibility to show support is to only buy those issues the Legion is in and boycott any others. Not a nice thing to do, but I for my part am prepared to do it anyway :biggrin:

[NeoStar9X]

Anyone now how much this title is going to cost?

[COMIC GEEK]

Aquaman starred in Adventure comics? hmm



I still have the issue where he fights aqulad for the survival of his son

[Retro315]

The question is: Which version of the Legion will it be? Even if the L3W mini will have some definite say about the future of the Legion, Adventure Comics could also be doing flashbacks so there might be

a) a last story of the Threeboot Legion
b) some missing stories of the Reboot Legion or
c) a new story about the probably reestablished near-classic Legion

As the results of L3W are far from certain thus far, every other mix of the three possibilities is another option... I'm getting a headache already :redface:

As a Legion fan, I am not happy with Adventure showing a rotating cast. This could mean that we would have to wait another year for a second storyarc.

The only possibility to show support is to only buy those issues the Legion is in and boycott any others. Not a nice thing to do, but I for my part am prepared to do it anyway :biggrin:

It'll be the new "hand-picked all my favorites" Geoff Johns Legion.

Hope nobody thought Superboy Prime was chosen because he's a "dark mirror" of Superman. I can see a house-cleaning coming when I see one ... I can imagine it now, Prime screaming ...

PRIME: "I hate multiple possible future versions of people!"

... before he starts ripping Legion members apart ... except for the lucky "one of each character" who gets to survive.

[AdamYJ]

Whichever Legion it is, I hope it's a teenage Legion. I just never really got the point of the grown-up Legion. I mean, it's 1000 years in the future. That's distanced enough from the regular DCU that there's no need to worry about it moving on without them if they're kept their originally intended ages.

[Calybos]

I wouldn't consider it a protest or boycott, but I certainly would only pick up the Legion issues and skip the others.

[Chemical King]

Whichever Legion it is, I hope it's a teenage Legion. I just never really got the point of the grown-up Legion. I mean, it's 1000 years in the future. That's distanced enough from the regular DCU that there's no need to worry about it moving on without them if they're kept their originally intended ages.

Characters that are not allowed to grow up are no real characters at all. Peter Pan excluded. Without growth, there can be no realistic character development. Without character development, the stories are bland and meaningless. Just as they were during most of the Reboot.

[AdamYJ]

Characters that are not allowed to grow up are no real characters at all. Peter Pan excluded. Without growth, there can be no realistic character development. Without character development, the stories are bland and meaningless. Just as they were during most of the Reboot.

Well, isn't the whole point of the Legion of Super-Heroes that they're teenage super-heroes operating in the future? If they're not teenage heroes anymore, then what's the point of them?

The thing is, most characters progress and grow up to a certain point and then the story ends as its supposed to. I think sometimes, though not all the time, things have to be done differently with serial comic book characters who just keep going.

Though, maybe I just don't understand. I've never been a big Legion fan. I didn't like them in comics until the Waid/Kitson version. And I liked the cartoon. I tried "The Great Darkness Saga" before that and didn't think it was that great (or, at least, didn't think it was a good introduction to the Legion). I also tried reading some Legion from the late '50s and thought it was okay, but not great (the main thing it did was confirm the biggest thing that the cartoon taught me: that Bouncing Boy is awesome). So, maybe it's just me.

[Cayman]

Mon-El is a big draw for me.

I wish Eric Wight would pencil it.

[Chemical King]

Well, isn't the whole point of the Legion of Super-Heroes that they're teenage super-heroes operating in the future? If they're not teenage heroes anymore, then what's the point of them?

The thing is, most characters progress and grow up to a certain point and then the story ends as its supposed to. I think sometimes, though not all the time, things have to be done differently with serial comic book characters who just keep going.

Though, maybe I just don't understand. I've never been a big Legion fan. I didn't like them in comics until the Waid/Kitson version. And I liked the cartoon. I tried "The Great Darkness Saga" before that and didn't think it was that great (or, at least, didn't think it was a good introduction to the Legion). I also tried reading some Legion from the late '50s and thought it was okay, but not great (the main thing it did was confirm the biggest thing that the cartoon taught me: that Bouncing Boy is awesome). So, maybe it's just me.

To me as a live-long Legion fan, the Legion was always about a superhero team from the future. Even as a kid, I didn't give a damn about if they were teenagers, twens or whatever. They were heroes in a SciFi environment, constantly evolving, marrying, some new members came in, others went out, some even died - and STAYED DEAD! :eek: - they actually built a legacy from which new stories could kind of naturally grow. This had a definite soap opera / space opera inside which I really loved a lot.

So it was always about character development (certainly more so AFTER the Silver Age). It used to be, at least - Mark Waids run certainly was not, he didn't bother to put in any hint of characterization at all, reducing the Legionnaires to carbon copies of each other. I was very glad to see this approach go when Jim Shooter finally got some life into this version... and some character into the characters :tongue:

[Ontir]

Well, isn't the whole point of the Legion of Super-Heroes that they're teenage super-heroes operating in the future? If they're not teenage heroes anymore, then what's the point of them?

...and the X-Men are students at a super-hero high school. If they grow up, it's all over?!? Clearly not. It's fine for the Legion to have grown-up members, the problem is that they've pretty much always been teens OR grown-ups. Now if Claremont had jumped to DC to take over Wonder Woman and the Legion in the early 80's, we'd have a Legion now that had a handful of original members, now adults, and the vast majority would be newer teens and on Legionnaires.

[Chemical King]

...and the X-Men are students at a super-hero high school. If they grow up, it's all over?!? Clearly not. It's fine for the Legion to have grown-up members, the problem is that they've pretty much always been teens OR grown-ups. Now if Claremont had jumped to DC to take over Wonder Woman and the Legion in the early 80's, we'd have a Legion now that had a handful of original members, now adults, and the vast majority would be newer teens and on Legionnaires.

And that would be a cool thing to have... I always liked the way Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl were handled like they were elder statesmen caring for their kids in the Giffen Legion. I really do think that a turn-around for the Legion like they managed with the JSA ten years ago is possible. If only there are some capable writers who focus on story and character instead on events and teenage revolutions, and some editors who handle this good with care, it would be possible.

Or to quote another certain statesman: "Yes we can!" :redface:

[AdamYJ]

...and the X-Men are students at a super-hero high school.

At least they keep that part of themselves alive by bringing in a new class every decade.

I just don't really like the grown-up Legion. And I don't care what old fogey Legion fans want, I don't like the idea of having to jump in to learning about a Legion that's fifty years old, and has piles and piles of backstory for about a hundred characters. I tried it before and it didn't work. The only thing that I think the old Legion has over the newer ones is that none of the newer ones had Bouncing Boy (who, like I said, is awesome).

And if it is the old Legion, please at least let them change their noms du guerre. As much as I like old-school names, "Lightning Lad" really doesn't work for a guy who's 28.

[Chemical King]

Nobody forces you to dive into an established comic book franchize - it's your free decision to do so or not. If you do it, you can't expect the writers to change everything back to a clean slate so that some potential newbie might be more attracted to the book. They tried it twice with the Legion. They failed twice.

If you want a fresh new book to jump on to, there's myriads of them out there on the market. Take on of those. Don't take the Legion. Nor the JSA as well, by the way. Nor the X-Men.

By the way Lightning Lad certainly isn't a very hip name. That's the reason why Giffen just used their birthnames like Garth Ranzz. But you don't like the adult versions as well...

... "old fogey". What you have to deal with on this board... :cool:

[AdamYJ]

Sorry, it's just that I finally got to liking them with what you folks call the "threeboot" and now I'm afraid it's going to be taken away.

And JSA wasn't a problem. I don't know why. And X-Men I got into when I was in sixth grade and had much more patience for this stuff (it helped that there was the cartoon and trading cards to fill me in on bits and pieces of it).

[Aaron Kashtan]

Oh, for God's sake. If they're only going to feature the Legion as rotating guest stars in an anthology comic, I might not even buy the Legion issues. That's worse than nothing. It's an insult to faithful Legion fans.

[Chemical King]

Sorry, it's just that I finally got to liking them with what you folks call the "threeboot" and now I'm afraid it's going to be taken away.

And JSA wasn't a problem. I don't know why. And X-Men I got into when I was in sixth grade and had much more patience for this stuff (it helped that there was the cartoon and trading cards to fill me in on bits and pieces of it).

I found the JSA much less accessible and still am struggling to keep up to who is whose nephew or grandson or which version of Hourman I'm currently dealing with. There have been so many retcons due to all the crisis that it's fun, but difficult to keep track of them all.

The Legion was much more linear until the rebooted it. Okay, they substituted Superboy with Mon-El, did their share of retcons and certainly gave some people problems due to the large cast. But they never had three generations of heroes with complicated family relations.

[DoubleWide]

I preferred the new names for the characters such as Triad, Live Wire and Phase instead of Triplicate Girl, Lightning Lass and Phantom Girl. I've disliked the Boy, Girl, Lad & Lass suffixes used for years, but since DC has spend the past couple of years undoing all the changes made in the late 80s and 90s, I suppose the new names are too much to ask for.

[Chemical King]

Phase was actually not really Phantom Girl - or at first she was and later on she was retconned to be... not... ehm... anyway, the new name for Phantom Girl was Apparition, which certainly did simply suck.

I don't care for their codenames as long as they don't sound like the cool flashy trend of the year like Spark, Live Wire or Leviathan did. I could live with Alchemist and Umbra.

My favorite solution was the 5 year later version when the Legion had outgrown its codenames and was simply going by their birthnames - Rokk Krin, Garth Ranzz and so on. Unfortunately, that's all just an Elseworld not, and we'll have to wait and see how Legion of 3 worlds is going to turn out...

[Matthew E]

Oh, for God's sake. If they're only going to feature the Legion as rotating guest stars in an anthology comic, I might not even buy the Legion issues. That's worse than nothing. It's an insult to faithful Legion fans.

Actually, I think it's kind of a smart thing to do. Look at how DC's treating the Legion: a bit of time in JLA and JSA. A bit of time in Action. A big event miniseries. Then Mon-El gets some more screentime in Action. A timeshare in Adventure.

By the time DC gets around to giving the Legion its own series again--which they inevitably will--the Legion could have a *lot* of new readers who are familiar with the team and ready to jump on board a regular series.

I don't *like* it, because what *I* want is for the Legion to have a *weekly* series, or perhaps two of them, but I have to admit that it's a pretty intelligent way for DC to go about things, and one that suggests that a lot of thought went into it.

[Kid Kyoto]

Whichever Legion it is, I hope it's a teenage Legion. I just never really got the point of the grown-up Legion. I mean, it's 1000 years in the future. That's distanced enough from the regular DCU that there's no need to worry about it moving on without them if they're kept their originally intended ages.

I was one of the lucky ones who 'grew up' with the Legion. I read from the early 80s to the mid 90s.

The point was the characters grew and evolved over time, some realized they were tired of fighting mad gods and quit. Others got caught up in other commitments and left reluctantly. Some died. New members joined. It was more like life than the endless circle and frozen ages of most comics.