Dark Reign Preview

[40footwolf]

Fairly straightforward.

[gorthon616]

http://comics.ign.com/articles/936/936085p1.html

Maleev does a beautiful Doom... and a horrible Namor. Page 5 2nd panel he looks like some sort of dwarf.

The Namor dialogue is atrocious as well. Doom is mostly okay (dialogue). Frost seems very off. I'm not really familiar with Fem-oki so I won't say anything to that. Did Parker Robbins always act like an idiot? It's like he's some kid playing gangstaz.

[Atom_basher]

http://comics.ign.com/articles/936/936085p1.html

Maleev does a beautiful Doom... and a horrible Namor. Page 5 2nd panel he looks like some sort of dwarf.

The Namor dialogue is atrocious as well. Doom is mostly okay (dialogue). Frost seems very off. I'm not really familiar with Fem-oki so I won't say anything to that. Did Parker Robbins always act like an idiot? It's like he's some kid playing gangstaz.

couldnt agree more, his doom looks amazing, menacing, demonic, intimidating. his namor, well, Maleev should be embarrassed that's how bad it looks

[DaUltimateSheild]

why dose namor look like the guy from GTA 4?

[psychic_therapy]

can't wait to see this unfold

[40footwolf]

I had to mark down "Concerned", for myself. It's a ragingly cool idea, don't get me wrong, but it would also be really, REALLY easy to screw up and Marvel has managed to trip over piles of gold bricks and just keep on walking plenty of times before this.

As long as I stick to the things that Bendis isn't writing, I'll probably be okay.

[Clea]

That is supposed to be Namor? :confused: Good grief.

[40footwolf]

Folks...maybe Namor is being drawn like that INTENTIONALLY? Maybe to signify some kind of shift in his life since the last time we saw him?

I don't know, just a thought.

[Merrik]

Even if he is being drawn that way on purpose... it's still one of the worst renditions I've ever seen of the character.


I marked down concerned, although a not interested option probably would've suited me better. Marvel can do what they like, hopefully there's some great stories to be told, but I'm only sticking to the few core titles I collect.

Well, maybe concerned is a good term. Since when does the all confident, conceited and boastful Namor stammer and stutter at anything? Especially Loki? To be one of those whiny fanboys we all hate so much, three pages in and already there's some mischaracterization going on. (I can't help it... I'm still bitter She-Hulk is cancelled... my apologies).

[Splatt]

why dose namor look like the guy from GTA 4?

"Doom, my cousin, how about some bowling tonight, eh?" :tongue:

[Doc Goblin]

Folks...maybe Namor is being drawn like that INTENTIONALLY? Maybe to signify some kind of shift in his life since the last time we saw him?

I don't know, just a thought.

I agree with you. I'm thinking this is purposeful. Bendis may not write the perfect Namor, but this isn't the same way Namor was portrayed in Illuminati. The same with Maleev. He drew Namor in the pre-Civil War Illuminati special, and Namor didn't look like this.

I guess Namor signing on with this cabal has to do with him going downhill lately. That seems to be what they're going for at least.

[Cthulhudrew]

I agree with you. I'm thinking this is purposeful. Bendis may not write the perfect Namor, but this isn't the same way Namor was portrayed in Illuminati. The same with Maleev. He drew Namor in the pre-Civil War Illuminati special, and Namor didn't look like this.

There is all that stuff between Namor and the White Queen where he apparently doesn't recognize her even though she says twice that they've met before. And he's definitely acting out of character.

Skrull? :tongue:

[James Conniff]

Bad. Ass.

I love Emma's "Do You?" Pecking order got put out pretty quick by Victor, Emma Loki, and Norman...and The Hood looks quite chump-like, as does Drunken Pirate Namor NOW WITH SCURVY!

[rogerio]

uh..Namor is in bad shape there...:biggrin:

[LordEd1976]

Namor looks like he got a bad haircut. and decided to get over his disappointment by getting drunk at a bar.

The only thing I liked in the preview was Emma showing that idiot Hood who's boss.

I wonder how long it will take Loki to recognize that his/her old friend Dormammu is connected to Hood?

[TotalWorldDomination]

How can one man draw Namor so well in Illuminati and draw Namor so HORRIBLY in this? was he using all his "good" on drawing doom?

[americocaine]

Hahahahaa..I can't believe people will buy this crap and the bendis-boards freaks are going to praise the hell out of this thing. This looks a lot worse than the Illuminati and that was passable. My god.

And the script "Initiative and Avengers franchises." Like he's just spouting off random stuff from the top of his head. Jesus, this idiot actually can write junk and it will sell thousands.

[Xistel]

Im interested but not following the main books..just want to see how it reflects on the comics i follow (iron man, spider man, x men)

[CyberCoyote]

Hahahahaa..I can't believe people will buy this crap and the bendis-boards freaks are going to praise the hell out of this thing. This looks a lot worse than the Illuminati and that was passable. My god.

And the script "Initiative and Avengers franchises." Like he's just spouting off random stuff from the top of his head. Jesus, this idiot actually can write junk and it will sell thousands.

Things I want to say but won't others will. Good day! "Here, Doom, sit at a utility table in the janitor's closet and wait for me." Dreck.

The only thing worse than the art is the writing. The only thing worse than that is having Osborn have ANY authority in the MU. If someone smoked a joint in highschool and runs for office or is in the spotlight it comes out.. this guy's a psychopathic monster and they're trying to say he can go this far?

[Hatut Zeraze]

Some of the individual comics in this preview looked pretty great, but I have zero interest in the Dark Reign story, like I had zero interest in the Secret Invasion story.

That said, I'm looking forward to Invincible Iron Man, Agents of Atlas, War Machine, Mighty Avengers, Thunderbolts, and possibly the Initiative.

[vitruvian]

I agree with you. I'm thinking this is purposeful. Bendis may not write the perfect Namor, but this isn't the same way Namor was portrayed in Illuminati. The same with Maleev. He drew Namor in the pre-Civil War Illuminati special, and Namor didn't look like this.

I guess Namor signing on with this cabal has to do with him going downhill lately. That seems to be what they're going for at least.

Okay, but even if he's going downhill, that could *maybe* explain the stubble. How did bumming around the ocean also cause his hairline to recede and his nose to both grow larger and change shape since we've last seen him? How and why did his attitude change from still being completely arrogant and in control of things since his appearances in Avengers/Invaders and the Order (where he still had it together enough to threaten the entire Pacific coast with a giant frozen tidal wave)? And why did his speech patterns completely change?

It's one thing to draw somebody like they've been sleeping rough for a while, although I'm not really sure exactly what that means for somebody who always slept in sea water anyway - I never got the impression that Atlanteans needed baths or showers, and they would probably consider any kind of soap or shampoo a contaminant in the stuff they breathe - it's quite another to make them look like an entirely different person.

[Animalia]

I really do wonder how Emma Frost's involvement in this will effect her status in the X-Men.

[arp2008]

I really do wonder how Emma Frost's involvement in this will effect her status in the X-Men. Not good, I imagine, since she was once a villainess and is now conevening with a bevy of questionable characters.

[gorthon616]

Folks...maybe Namor is being drawn like that INTENTIONALLY? Maybe to signify some kind of shift in his life since the last time we saw him?

I don't know, just a thought.

that might makes sense as he is also being written in such a way that is horrible as well.

but then again, it's not like he hasn't been through rough times before nor has he in any other appearance since his mini (the Order comes to mind) looked and acted like some hobo-dwarf.

[arp2008]

Folks...maybe Namor is being drawn like that INTENTIONALLY? Maybe to signify some kind of shift in his life since the last time we saw him?

I don't know, just a thought. What do you propose could have happened to him to cause such a mammoth change in attitude and appearance?

[B. Kuwanger]

I voted before I saw that Namor. What the hell is that? I'm tempted to not buy this issue now. I will protest against a dirty, ugly Namor with badly written bum lines.

[arp2008]

I voted before I saw that Namor. What the hell is that? I'm tempted to not buy this issue now. I will protest against a dirty, ugly Namor with badly written bum lines. For what its worth, you've got my support.

[seeso]

IGN has a second Dark Reign video. Contains some more information, like what specifically Osborn is trying to get from Stark.

http://comics.ign.com/dor/objects/14279439/dark-reign-event/videos/marvel_darkreign_part2_120508.html

[40footwolf]

What do you propose could have happened to him to cause such a mammoth change in attitude and appearance?
I don't know, dude. Maybe you should READ THE COMIC AND FIND OUT.

I'm not sticking up for the comic itself, I just think that, of all the perfectly reasonable things to attack about it, Namor's stubble is an absolutely ridiculous point of contention(sp?).

[Halexx]

I register to agree that while i generally like the art of Maalev , this is probably the worst Namor i never saw. After mine, i mean. Honestly, he do not look like him at all! Hope this is part of a plot of the writer...

[jackolover]

The excitement level is just as good as for the Initiative, because whose to know what possible direction this could all go in? Does Osborn win? Does Stark win? Does Loki smudge the edges of the MU, or is she just a faint? Will Dormmamu get his big day on Earth and finally make a play for the MU? Does Peter Parker play any role in Osborns downfall if that's what this is? If Osborn wins, then I will have to have my bank account shut off. I can't have these crazy ideas playing havoc with my budget. It's all your fault Bendis! (The faster he gets out of comics the better).

[bebopeva88]

We were talking about Maleev's Namor in the IAM Community thread yesterday as a source of both confusion and amusement. Maleev can do/has done a nice Namor before, so I have to assume he's making him look like a sclubby cross between Jean Reno and Maleev himself because he's going for a "kingdom-less, down on his luck, beside himself, not really caring" Namor. Still though, he could've just gone with some stubble and some bags under the eyes instead of a complete transformation from the way he drew him before.

Anyway, I'm still all over this, regardless. Liked the Cabal ever since the first little tease of them.

[jackolover]

Do you see pretty Loki, sittin there, pim and proper, all ears for the wily machinations of this petty human?

This so f*****g wild, and bizarre. That scene where Emma pushes the Hoods gun up his throat is diamonds. And where did Emma once meet Namor? This is so Bendis, and I love that he puts all these characters into one room.

I got my wish, because here is the next line, after, 'And this is how it will go'. The next line is and this will be good news for all of you

How charming. It's like Osborn is serving up a platter with lovely little finger food on it. What will you choose? Come on, theres more than enough for everybody.

Ah Hah Hah Hah Hah HaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH! Will be Normans next expletive.

[gorthon616]

The excitement level is just as good as for the Initiative, because whose to know what possible direction this could all go in? Does Osborn win? Does Stark win? Does Loki smudge the edges of the MU, or is she just a faint? Will Dormmamu get his big day on Earth and finally make a play for the MU? Does Peter Parker play any role in Osborns downfall if that's what this is? If Osborn wins, then I will have to have my bank account shut off. I can't have these crazy ideas playing havoc with my budget. It's all your fault Bendis! (The faster he gets out of comics the better).

I don't know. I wouldn't dispute that Marvel is the House of Ideas.... but sometimes they really aren't the House of Stories, especially when (imo) it comes to the Avengers (and I guess I'll just go ahead and spell out B-e-n-d-i-s and M-i-l-l-a-r). I mean, even before Dark Reign I can sit around (and do sometimes) think about all the amazing possibilities that could come from the Marvel Universe.... that's why I'm a Marvel fan... but if that joy seems somewhat hollow if the stories just aren't executed. And honestly the past few haven't been.

[Rev. Calibos]

I put down 'concerned'.

The cover is just ridiculous on levels. Doom looks decent, but Loki looks like a frumpy trailer park resident dressed up like Loki, Namor looks like an angry dwarf, everything is just off.

I understand that this is the 'IllumiNOTi" (or Illumin'ANTI') but it's puzzling that Loki would be included in the book.

He/she seems fairly occupied in Thor every month and I doubt he/she'd sully her hands with mortal affairs like this again so soon after being 'reborn'.

Just all sorts of red flags with this right out of the gate.

[jackolover]

Not good, I imagine, since she was once a villainess and is now conevening with a bevy of questionable characters.

The real question is, why the hell Norman Osborn invited her to that room? What does Osborn think she brings to the table? All the others are borderline associates, but this mutant floosy? What does she have, that Norman Osborn wants? OH, Oh, it can't be that simple can it? She's the blond and she is wearing those long boots Norman always talks about, and I think I could see a bridge on page 3, wasn't it?

[jackolover]

What do you propose could have happened to him to cause such a mammoth change in attitude and appearance?

He was sucker punched by Hercules in the Incredible Herc series, and none of the Amazones picked him to go to bed win, (or whatever it is sea creatures do it in).

[jackolover]

IGN has a second Dark Reign video. Contains some more information, like what specifically Osborn is trying to get from Stark.

http://comics.ign.com/dor/objects/14279439/dark-reign-event/videos/marvel_darkreign_part2_120508.html

I can't get the video to download. What does Osborn want from Tony, and when does this occur?

[seeso]

I can't get the video to download. What does Osborn want from Tony, and when does this occur?

SPOILERS
The first thing Osborn says to Tony is "Give me the list." He wants the list of all the real names of every superhero who registered. That's why Tony is the "World's Most Wanted," because he won't give up the list. So now he's on the run.
END SPOILERS

[jackolover]

SPOILERS
The first thing Osborn says to Tony is "Give me the list." He wants the list of all the real names of every superhero that registered. That's why Tony is the "World's Most Wanted."
END SPOILERS

SH*T. Thanks seeso. I wonder if Tony gives it too him?

[seeso]

As for when it occurs, I don't know. I would suspect in Invincible Iron Man #8.

[arp2008]

SPOILERS
The first thing Osborn says to Tony is "Give me the list." He wants the list of all the real names of every superhero that registered. That's why Tony is the "World's Most Wanted," because he won't give up the list. So now he's on the run.
END SPOILERS Wow. Go, Tony! I guess he's not as stupid as the ones who put Norman in power.

[seeso]

SH*T. Thanks seeso. I wonder if Tony gives it too him?

No he doesn't. He goes on the run. Hence, "World's Most Wanted.

[gorthon616]

SH*T. Thanks seeso. I wonder if Tony gives it too him?

I doubt it. I'm glad that's the angle though. Makes sense and doesn't dredge up any unnecessary CW stories.

[arp2008]

SH*T. Thanks seeso. I wonder if Tony gives it too him?
I wonder if Osborn sends the Thunderbolts after him.

[seeso]

In my previous post, I didn't do the spoiler tags correctly. When you guys quoted my post, you can read it. Would you mind editing your posts and taking out my quote? I don't want anyone getting spoiled.

[CMBMOOL]

SPOILERS
The first thing Osborn says to Tony is "Give me the list." He wants the list of all the real names of every superhero who registered. That's why Tony is the "World's Most Wanted," because he won't give up the list. So now he's on the run.
END SPOILERS
I got to admit that is kind of Shocking to see Norman missing the one thing he needs to make his new power chair perfect.

[Xistel]

Tony rocks! everyone considers him an idiot because of what he did, but he was only trying to make the world a better place, his heart is in the right place, as you can tell.

Tony is on, against all odds.

[jackolover]

As for when it occurs, I don't know. I would suspect in Invincible Iron Man #8.

That issue could be a real head slammer issue.

[jackolover]

No he doesn't. He goes on the run. Hence, "World's Most Wanted.

OH Baby, that's sweet!!!

[CMBMOOL]

Tony rocks! everyone considers him an idiot because of what he did, but he was only trying to make the world a better place, his heart is in the right place, as you can tell.

Tony is on, against all odds.
I agree.

I guess this really does prove that Tony does care about his friends and is willing to do anything to protect them. No matter how many people hate him.

I guess I was wrong about Tony, for a bit.

[GHalecki]

The thing is, besided Spider-Man being returned to normal.....

what super-heroes out there actually HAVE secret identities to protect any more?

I can't think of anyone or any significance with a secret identity any more. Thor has Don Blake, but that was well known by SHIELD prior to any of this any way (and is now relevant again since his return). Hawkeye, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Ms Marvel all have secret identities, but only BARELY secret at best.

[SquidSquod]

I wonder if Osborn sends the Thunderbolts after him.

Bring on the Argonauts, Tony. Let's see how this T'Bolts fared against Vibranium laced Iron Bot x 6. What? Fury told Stark to purge the blue print? Oh, crap Plan B then.

[Xistel]

The thing is, besided Spider-Man being returned to normal.....

what super-heroes out there actually HAVE secret identities to protect any more?

I can't think of anyone or any significance with a secret identity any more. Thor has Don Blake, but that was well known by SHIELD prior to any of this any way (and is now relevant again since his return). Hawkeye, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Ms Marvel all have secret identities, but only BARELY secret at best.

I think that is gonna change some way

[princesa]

Namor looks like a meth-head. Looking forward to this book.

[vitruvian]

The real question is, why the hell Norman Osborn invited her to that room? What does Osborn think she brings to the table? All the others are borderline associates, but this mutant floosy? What does she have, that Norman Osborn wants? OH, Oh, it can't be that simple can it? She's the blond and she is wearing those long boots Norman always talks about, and I think I could see a bridge on page 3, wasn't it?

Well, she's co-leader, or at least consort to the leader, of the largest contingent of surviving mutants on Earth. Plus, she's a powerful telepath, incredibly rich, and probably still has connections from her Hellfire Club days. I would guess all that counts for something.

[vitruvian]

I don't know, dude. Maybe you should READ THE COMIC AND FIND OUT.

I'm not sticking up for the comic itself, I just think that, of all the perfectly reasonable things to attack about it, Namor's stubble is an absolutely ridiculous point of contention(sp?).

Stubble we could deal with. The character looking absolutely nothing like himself is quite another thing.

[TheBoTT]

i agree with the namor comments. He looked and acted nothing like himself. I can get over all of the other characterizations but Namor really bothered me. The whole part with him stuttering at Loki was horrible. Thats just not what should have happened.

[nikbackm]

I understand that this is the 'IllumiNOTi" (or Illumin'ANTI') but it's puzzling that Loki would be included in the book.

He/she seems fairly occupied in Thor every month and I doubt he/she'd sully her hands with mortal affairs like this again so soon after being 'reborn'.

Just all sorts of red flags with this right out of the gate.

Loki did talk with Balder in a recent Thor issue about how they could/should "go out in the world" instead of staying holed up in dusty old Asgard, but Thor would not let them.

Seems logical to me, who'd want to stay there all the time when there's a whole new world for the taking?

[pauwoo]

I went for "how does Marvel keep getting away with this", this story means the whole Secret Invasion story, which they hyped the hell out of, was just a trailer for this.

I think they missed an opportunity to do something really clever and far reaching with having the Skrulls win and take over the earth.

[Shade 20x6]

Wow, that's some of the worst, most cliche dialogue I've read in a comic in a long time.

A big, massive PASS from me.

[Shade 20x6]

SPOILERS
The first thing Osborn says to Tony is "Give me the list." He wants the list of all the real names of every superhero who registered. That's why Tony is the "World's Most Wanted," because he won't give up the list. So now he's on the run.
END SPOILERS

And this is exactly the kind of thing the anti-registration side feared from Day 1.

[bushboy]

The dialogue straight up sucked. Doom looked great and thats about the only redeeming quality I can find about this. pass

[nikbackm]

I went for "how does Marvel keep getting away with this", this story means the whole Secret Invasion story, which they hyped the hell out of, was just a trailer for this.

I think they missed an opportunity to do something really clever and far reaching with having the Skrulls win and take over the earth.

Would not that have been much like the "V" television series from the 80s?

I think that would have been to invasive for most Marvel titles.

[Will.S]

I understand that this is the 'IllumiNOTi" (or Illumin'ANTI') but it's puzzling that Loki would be included in the book.

He/she seems fairly occupied in Thor every month and I doubt he/she'd sully her hands with mortal affairs like this again so soon after being 'reborn'.

Just all sorts of red flags with this right out of the gate.
It's not all that puzzling to me since it's not like Loki is restricted to appear outside of the Thor books. She's actually been plotting a lot of behind the scenes stuff. In Thor #5 Loki was seen plotting with Dr. Doom as well.


i agree with the namor comments. He looked and acted nothing like himself. I can get over all of the other characterizations but Namor really bothered me. The whole part with him stuttering at Loki was horrible. Thats just not what should have happened.
I see what Alex is going for and I don't think it really works either but Namor stuttering at Loki is an understandable reaction given that it's the first time Namor saw Loki in his new form. I'm looking forward to this so I voted "Looks good".

[Blackhawkk]

The real question is, why the hell Norman Osborn invited her to that room? What does Osborn think she brings to the table? All the others are borderline associates, but this mutant floosy? What does she have, that Norman Osborn wants? OH, Oh, it can't be that simple can it? She's the blond and she is wearing those long boots Norman always talks about, and I think I could see a bridge on page 3, wasn't it?

It would be funny if the only reason Osborn invited Emma Frost was for some blonde nookie.

[Trey]

That is indeed horrible.

Why would Emma try to read Doom's mind, right away, before they even say anything.

Why would the Hood, enter invisibly, to tick off both Emma and Doom?

Why does Namor have aquatic AIDS, did he fuck a squid?

And why didn't Namor bitch slap Emma after she insulted him?

Bendis blows, hard.

How did a Thunderbolts Agent (which that isnt) get into Xmen HQ and knock on Emma's bedroom door. Hilarious.

Its called an Editor, hire one.

"Um Brian, yeah. OK. OK. We can't have Namor, um. OK. We can't have Namor talking like this. Ok. Ok. Good.

And we can't let an insult go without a counter from FREAKING NAMOR WHO SEES INSULTS IN EVERY COMMENT MADE BY SURFACE DWELLERS."

Yours truly,
Tom Brevoort.

I like the art tho.

[Armando]

Namor looks horrible and Emma doesn't look bad, she just doesn't look like any of the "Emma's" I've ever seen.

[Splatt]

That is indeed horrible.

Why would Emma try to read Doom's mind, right away, before they even say anything.

Because that's the way she is. As soon as she enters a room, she reads the mind of everyone who occupies it. Actually, she reads everyone's mind even before she enters the room.

Why would the Hood, enter invisibly, to tick off both Emma and Doom?

Why not? There are obvious advantages at being invisible in a top secret meeting than being visible. Ticking off Emma or Doom is a small price to pay if he manages to learn some dark secrets. Also, Hood is arrogant.

Why does Namor have aquatic AIDS, did he fuck a squid?

There's probably an explanation for that in the comic and if there isn't one, fuck Bendis. Either way, read the whole comic first, not a 5 page preview, before "filling" such a complaint.

And why didn't Namor bitch slap Emma after she insulted him?

There's probably an explanation for that in the comic and if there isn't one, fuck Bendis. Either way, read the whole comic first, not a 5 page preview, before "filling" such a complaint.

Post too short blah blah blah.

[Shyft]

or it could you know, NOT BE Namor.

[Shyft]

I went for "how does Marvel keep getting away with this", this story means the whole Secret Invasion story, which they hyped the hell out of, was just a trailer for this.
.

You got a whole series and several lead ups filled with mystery over who was a Skrull/what their intentions were. And then you got the main thing which had massive fights and conclusions to some long running plot threads, all done in fantastic art. How does that count as "just a trailer?"

[nikbackm]

And why didn't Namor bitch slap Emma after she insulted him?

He was crushed by the unexpected criticism. Also hangover.



How did a Thunderbolts Agent (which that isnt) get into Xmen HQ and knock on Emma's bedroom door. Hilarious.


Emma and Scott stay in a hotel and not the X-Men HQ, at least sometimes. See Astonishing #25.

[jackolover]

I went for "how does Marvel keep getting away with this", this story means the whole Secret Invasion story, which they hyped the hell out of, was just a trailer for this.

I think they missed an opportunity to do something really clever and far reaching with having the Skrulls win and take over the earth.

Yeah, but instead of just lamely ending it by beating the Skrulls and going back to normal, Marvel did something better. They actually changed the outcome so the humans didn't win either.

[DeadXMan]

my god that is the worse Namor ever
this looks better

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/DXM616/marvelswimsuit-4_47.jpg

[GHalecki]

That was Joe Q? Normally I really like his stuff, but that Anmor page wasn't great at all.

[DeadXMan]

That was Joe Q? Normally I really like his stuff, but that Anmor page wasn't great at all.

still better then what I saw in DR

[steveg887]

That was Joe Q? Normally I really like his stuff, but that Anmor page wasn't great at all.

Looks more like Morbius than Namor.

[RDMacQ]

Okay, I just finished reading this and I've got a few thoughts on what I saw.

1)Emma Frost: Interesting to see that she's still feeling the guilt over Kitty Pride's loss. Might influence her decision to go along with whatever Norman and the others are planning simply to keep more tragedies like the one that happened to Kitty from happening again.

2)Loki: Not much there, but it was kind of fun that with only a page Bendis still made her interaction with Namor as creepy as possible.

3)Norman: Again, not much there, since he came in at the end. Still looks like he will be the guy to accommodate the others nastier intentions if it means that he gets something out of it or it keeps the U.S safe.

4)The Hood: Seems to be going a little bit of the crazy. Seems he might be the new sorcerer supreme now that he's aligned himself with Dormammu.

5)Namor: Why does the Avenging Son look like an aging rocker from the 80's?

6)Dr. Doom: He OWNED THE ROOM. From talking down Emma, to calling out the Hood, to his anticipation of Loki, Doom was a formidable presence from start to finish. Hopefully, Marvel keeps up his bad assness (assistude? Anyway...) in the future.

[DeadXMan]

something tells me that's not Kitty in Emma's dream.

[Rev. Calibos]

Loki did talk with Balder in a recent Thor issue about how they could/should "go out in the world" instead of staying holed up in dusty old Asgard, but Thor would not let them.

Seems logical to me, who'd want to stay there all the time when there's a whole new world for the taking?

I dunno.....that talk with Balder was to lay further seeds of discord within them to try and set the two against each other.

Again, perhaps more will be explained when we read it but on the surface Loki seems out of place in that assemblage.