I love you?

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

I've said "I love you" to Rosey.

I said it to Sara.

I said it to Marie, Dee, and Caitlin.

I said it to Tiffany, and Kellie.

I'm afraid to ever say it again.



Have you ever said "I love you" so much... heard it so much... that you stop believing it?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I've said "I love you" to Rosey.

I said it to Sara.

I said it to Marie, Dee, and Caitlin.

I said it to Tiffany, and Kellie.

I'm afraid to ever say it again.



Have you ever said "I love you" so much... heard it so much... that you stop believing it?

Not really....if I ever really say it ...to that special someone I think they universe will explode. :tongue:

[The Black Guardian]

They're just three stupid words, and they don't really mean a whole lot anyway when you consider the number of ways you can love someone or something.

[howyadoin]

Have you ever said "I love you" so much... heard it so much... that you stop believing it?I'm not a chick, so my answer is "no".

[Paradox]

No. And I've always been very very careful to whom and in what situation I say those words.

[x_goalkeeper]

I have not said or heard it enough to stop believing it.

[Crowforge]

I fall in love at the drop of a hat.... and no woman ever believes that, so my advice is to never say it, if you can help it don't even let yourself feel it.

[worstblogever]

As "That 70s Show" taught us, if you can't say it, instead say, "I love cake."

It's close enough, I figure.

[howyadoin]

As "That 70s Show" taught us, if you can't say it, instead say, "I love cake."

It's close enough, I figure.My favourite response in the 80s was "I love U2."

[Asmith]

Have you ever said "I love you" so much... heard it so much... that you stop believing it?

oh god yeah. 'I love you' is pretty much just a meaningless phrase now like 'no, those pants don't make your arse look big'.

'I love you' is shorthand for, 'don't worry, I haven't met anyone else I'd prefer to sleep with yet this week'.

It's relationship code. Like;
'I like your body' = 'You were so much fitter when I met you, chubby-butt'.

'Do you ever think about the future?' = 'I'm going to dump you'.

'My last partner wasn't better in bed than you, they were just different' = 'I still think about them during sex'.

'You're being possesive!' = 'You're making me feel bad about secretly having sex with other people'.

'I need to find myself' = 'I need that new guy who works in accounts to put his penis in me'.

[howyadoin]

'My last partner wasn't better in bed than you, they were just different' = 'I still think about them during sex'.

'You're being possesive!' = 'You're making me feel bad about secretly having sex with other people'.I'm not sure which of those falls under "brutal honesty" and which one is just honest.

[Asmith]

I'm not sure which of those falls under "brutal honesty" and which one is just honest.

Key to a good relationship is to go easy on the honesty. Nobody wants to look deeply and lovingly into the eyes of their one and only and hear the truth!
Sure, most people say they want an honest relationship - they just don't want to be the one who has to be honest or have to hear it from their partner.

That's why 'I love you' is the universal relationship balm.
"I love you, darling". "I'm full of shit too, sweetie-pookums. Now let's snuggle".

[worstblogever]

My favourite response in the 80s was "I love U2."

An even better answer. But do we really need to push Bono's ego more?

[Winslow]

Honesty in a relationship has boundaries of discernment. That doesn't necessarily mean it's dishonest. There's some binary thinking going on here.

No. And I've always been very very careful to whom and in what situation I say those words.

Yeah, me too.

So the answer to the question is no.

And yeah, honesty in a relationship has boundaries of discernment. That doesn't necessarily mean it's dishonest. There's some binary thinking going on here.

[Michael P]

If anything, I haven't heard it enough.

[HomerJay]

I love lamp.

[rick]

I've said "I love you" to Rosey.

I said it to Sara.

I said it to Marie, Dee, and Caitlin.

I said it to Tiffany, and Kellie.

I'm afraid to ever say it again.



Have you ever said "I love you" so much... heard it so much... that you stop believing it?



Did you ever mean it?

[dupont2005]

They're just three stupid words

thats my take on it. if a girl says it to me i don't feel like we have something special that did not exist before, and i have no problem saying it back, or even saying it first if i think it will work in my favor

[Bruce Wayne Jr.]

Did you ever mean it?

Every time.

But I'm alone now, which is why I don't ever wanna say it again.

Thanks for the responses, guys. I've been going through some things and I've got my eye on someone, so you've given me a lot to think about.


oh god yeah. 'I love you' is pretty much just a meaningless phrase now like 'no, those pants don't make your arse look big'.

'I love you' is shorthand for, 'don't worry, I haven't met anyone else I'd prefer to sleep with yet this week'.

It's relationship code. Like;
'I like your body' = 'You were so much fitter when I met you, chubby-butt'.

'Do you ever think about the future?' = 'I'm going to dump you'.

'My last partner wasn't better in bed than you, they were just different' = 'I still think about them during sex'.

'You're being possesive!' = 'You're making me feel bad about secretly having sex with other people'.

'I need to find myself' = 'I need that new guy who works in accounts to put his penis in me'.

You hit the nail on the head.

Forget these chicks, I love you! :wink:

[Asmith]

Every time.

But I'm alone now, which is why I don't ever wanna say it again.

Thanks for the responses, guys. I've been going through some things and I've got my eye on someone, so you've given me a lot to think about.

You hit the nail on the head.

Forget these chicks, I love you! :wink:

I read about a study done sometime back. Concerning the chemical brain reactions in male and female bondings. They used Russian hill voles as their test subjects. The conclusion was that women's brains produced the 'love' chemical in amounts over twice as much as men... but for only less than half the time as their partners.

I don't want to come across as mysoginistic, but since I just compared women to rodents I suppose that's too late...

But next time a woman says 'I love you', treat it as if she just sneezed and give her a bit of time to get over it before getting suckered in yourself. Because women aren't actually evil... they just seem that way.

[rick]

There is nothing wrong with saying “I love you”, as long as you mean it.

The problem is that more often then not people say “I love you”, when what they really mean to say is “I’d love to fuck you”.

The trick is to try not to say the one when you mean the other.

[Archer]

I'm not a chick, so my answer is "no".

I am a chick and some of the most uncomfortable situations I've ever been in are people saying "I love you" to me.

My feeling on the phrase is, if it's not reciprocated then it probably won't help anyone to say it, and if it is reciprocated then there's no need to say it anyway.

[Paradox]

Everyone says I love you
The great big mosquito when he stings you
The fly when he gets stuck on the fly paper too
Says I love you

Every time the cow says moo
She makes the bull-a very happy too
The rooster when he hollers cock-a-doodle-doodle-doo
Says I love you

Christopher Columbus he write
the Queen of Spain a very nice little note
He write "I love you, baby"
and then he gets himself a great big boat
He's a wise guy.
What do you think Columbus do
When he come here in 1492
He said to Pocahontas "Acki Vachi Vachi Voo,
"That means "You little son of a gun, I love You."

Everyone says I love you
But just what they say it for I never knew
It's just inviting trouble for the poor sucker who
Says I love you.

Take a pair of rabbits who
Get stuck each other and begin to woo
And pretty soon you'll find a million more rabbits who
Say I love you

When the lion gets felling frisky
And begins to roar
There's another lion who knows just what he's roaring for


Everything that ever grew
The goose and the gander and the gosling too
The duck upon the water when he feels that way too
says [Quacking]

[Asmith]

I am a chick and some of the most uncomfortable situations I've ever been in are people saying "I love you" to me.

My feeling on the phrase is, if it's not reciprocated then it probably won't help anyone to say it, and if it is reciprocated then there's no need to say it anyway.

I've never heard of a guy saying 'I love you' first... Though I've heard of plenty of occassions of a guy saying it last.

In my experience it's always the girl who says it, usually in the first 2 to 3 weeks of the relationship (and they're never happy with the response "gee, thanks. That's really nice of you", either). So you have to say it back to them - it's sort of the toll you have to pay to ride the regular sex highway.

[DoctorDoom]

I probably haven't said it enough.

[Dreadstar]

I probably haven't said it enough.

With the exception of my offspring, nor have I.

On the positive side, I haven't been hurt in over 10 years, either.

[howyadoin]

I am a chick and some of the most uncomfortable situations I've ever been in are people saying "I love you" to me.Oh, it doesn't make me uncomfortable at all. I just think that saying it all the time, about everything, renders in meaningless.

[i_mmmchocolate]

1-Never confuse infatuation with love. They're two different animals.

2-Don't say it unless you mean it.

[Archer]

In my experience it's always the girl who says it, usually in the first 2 to 3 weeks of the relationship (and they're never happy with the response "gee, thanks. That's really nice of you", either). So you have to say it back to them - it's sort of the toll you have to pay to ride the regular sex highway.

I think you're dating a lot of dysfunctional women. Anyone who a) thinks they love someone within a couple of weeks of dating, and b) thinks their partner should love them back in that timeframe, is someone who has no clue what their own emotions even mean.

Like people saying "I'm alone, and don't want to be hurt" or any such nonsense like that . . . I can't imagine having a functional relationship with someone who *needs* a partner to feel like a whole, complete person. Bah.

Regarding the phrase in itself - fundamentally if you need to say or hear "I love you" "I love you too" I think things are screwed up in the first place. If I really do love someone, they know it through my actions - not my words. If someone really loves me - I know that through their actions, not their catchphrase.

[Ray R.]

Love, and the recitation of it, mean something different to virtually everybody, and depend on prior experience, circumstances, what hormones, pheromones and neurotransmitters are releasing, and any number of widely variable conditions, feelings, and fears in place for each person.

Generalizing about it is silly. The greatest poets, playwrights, novelists and directors in history across cultures and civilizations have been confused, inspired, broken, re-energized, confounded, etc.

If you feel love, hopefully it's reciprocated, and if it's not, no matter how many times you say it, it's probably not going to sink in by osmosis.

But to each, their own.

[howyadoin]

Love, and the recitation of it, mean something different to virtually everybody, and depend on prior experience, circumstances, what hormones, pheromones and neurotransmitters are releasing, and any number of widely variable conditions, feelings, and fears in place for each person.

Generalizing about it is silly. The greatest poets, playwrights, novelists and directors in history across cultures and civilizations have been confused, inspired, broken, re-energized, confounded, etc.

If you feel love, hopefully it's reciprocated, and if it's not, no matter how many times you say it, it's probably not going to sink in by osmosis.

But to each, their own.Wow, you've really changed.

(smileyface)

[Ray R.]

Wow, you've really changed.

(smileyface)

I gave my bitterness the winter off.

[howyadoin]

I gave my bitterness the winter off.I guess the Pink Floyd shirt wasn't a bad idea after all.

[Ray R.]

I guess the Pink Floyd shirt wasn't a bad idea after all.

The chicks dig the Dark Side.....


of the Moon.

[Asmith]

I think you're dating a lot of dysfunctional women.
That may well be the politest description of my exes I've ever heard... It's got to the point where I think the phrase 'dysfunctional women' is a superlative!


Anyone who a) thinks they love someone within a couple of weeks of dating, and b) thinks their partner should love them back in that timeframe, is someone who has no clue what their own emotions even mean.
Worse case of misusing the 'I love you' - In a cab with the girl and she says "I love you" to me. I'm floored, utterly appalled. My response, "We've only known each other for 45 minutes!!" I would of got out of the cab in disgust but it was already heading to mine and I'd spent money on buying her a drink, so I was somewhat committed...

In general I agree with you. It shows a lot of emotional immaturity to go bandying the phrase about so early on in a relationship. However I've known the odd exception personally - once my girlfriend and I came to the same conclusion we were both maddly in love at the same time in under a week. It really didn't strike me as being hollow at all. Though over a year later she got over it when she left me for the husband she was already married to... so... um... what was my point???!


Like people saying "I'm alone, and don't want to be hurt" or any such nonsense like that . . . I can't imagine having a functional relationship with someone who *needs* a partner to feel like a whole, complete person. Bah.
Yeah there are people out there like that. Very clingy too - but they have a tendency to want to clean your house, so you should cut them a bit of slack. But some people aren't trying to 'complete themselves', but are looking for an intimate companion they can trust fully with their already complete selves and share the experience of life with. It adds to their lives and doesn't diminish them by wanting it.


Regarding the phrase in itself - fundamentally if you need to say or hear "I love you" "I love you too" I think things are screwed up in the first place. If I really do love someone, they know it through my actions - not my words. If someone really loves me - I know that through their actions, not their catchphrase.
True, words without deeds are meaningless. But still, sometimes it's nice to just hear the words. And if you really do love someone - and I mean actually love 'em and believe they love you too - then there shouldn't be any fear or hesitancy in saying the words.

Anyway, despite any jaded comments I've made on this thread, 'I love you' is still much nicer to have whispered in your ear than, 'I like you quite a lot for the moment, no really, you're swell'.

[Paradox]

Asmith knows words mean a lot:

Anyway, despite any jaded comments I've made on this thread, 'I love you' is still much nicer to have whispered in your ear than, 'I like you quite a lot for the moment, no really, you're swell'.

Sure beats my ex thinking it was cute to introduce me as her "first husband" while we were still married. :frown:

[Archer]

Anyway, despite any jaded comments I've made on this thread, 'I love you' is still much nicer to have whispered in your ear than, 'I like you quite a lot for the moment, no really, you're swell'.

Heh heh heh . . . depends on the circumstances though. Getting "I love you" whispered in your ear absolutely sucks when you're thinking "This guy is kinda fun, I'm looking forward to a bit of action tonight" and then all of a sudden he's throwing some kind of insane emotional attachment out there.

Then again, I do tend to attract men who take getting in touch with their emotional sides to ridiculous extremes. Oh, and lesbians, they love me too. Sigh.

[Asmith]

Sure beats my ex thinking it was cute to introduce me as her "first husband" while we were still married. :frown:

Ha! No! Really?? That's... I've no idea what that is... other than... wow. You ever ask her that if she didn't mean it that she might want to stop?

Puts me a little in mind of one couple I once knew. Three days after their wedding, the newly minted bride disappears for a week with a couple of other guys for a drug fuelled orgy. Everyone was quite worried as to where she was till she resurfaced. To be greeted by a very put out hubby and an annulment. All her friends were quite appalled with her but she kept on insisting that since she'd been on her best behaviour for two years securing a marriage to her former, rather wealthy husband, that she had "earnt" a bit of fun all to herself... She just couldn't understand why everyone, including former hubby, was so unsupportive.

Heh heh heh . . . depends on the circumstances though. Getting "I love you" whispered in your ear absolutely sucks when you're thinking "This guy is kinda fun, I'm looking forward to a bit of action tonight" and then all of a sudden he's throwing some kind of insane emotional attachment out there.
I've noticed that the more 'emotionly unavailable' a person projects themselves as, the more clingy their partner gets as they have to push harder for some sense of even temporary security in the situation or emotional feedback. I think this happens in both males and females. Also most people, to one extent or another (rightly or wrongly), do equate a good tumble in the hay as being reflective of some sort of emotional attachment.

Hmm... I think I just suggested there might be something you're doing to elicit this reaction from the guys.


Then again, I do tend to attract men who take getting in touch with their emotional sides to ridiculous extremes. Oh, and lesbians, they love me too. Sigh.
I had some further point to make here but thoughts of red hot lesbian sex has made me quite forget it... Hey, I'm a guy, it's like our kryptonite!

[Mermaid]

My favourite response in the 80s was "I love U2."


Did someone mention U2? :biggrin:

[Paradox]

Asmith brings back the flood:

Ha! No! Really?? That's... I've no idea what that is... other than... wow. You ever ask her that if she didn't mean it that she might want to stop?

I don't think we want to get into a discussion of her rotten treatment of me (that was mild). Jonah doesn't have the bandwidth. :wink:

[Asmith]

I don't think we want to get into a discussion of her rotten treatment of me (that was mild). Jonah doesn't have the bandwidth. :wink:

What, not even a highlights package? A small sampling of the litany of evil? I'm intrigued now - I always am at hearing the hi-jinxs of other good men's suffering at the fiendish harpy-claws of womankind.

Considering this board seems to consist mainly of virgins, homosexuals, married men and a few goth chicks*, I can't believe anyone would object to straying a bit into 'women are evil' territory!

*If you don't believe that any of these broad sterotyping labels apply to you, then obviously I wasn't referring to you at all and there's no reason for you to be offended. If you do feel that one of these labels applies to you, then we're both in agreement and you've no cause to be offended. If however you're a virginal homosexual married man who likes to dress-up as a goth chick, then really dude, you've got to start up a personal blog and send me the link. Because, seriously, that would just be amazing reading!