View Full Version : Blackest Night..... Most Highly Anticipated Event ... EVER?
K-DoG7p7
12-05-2008, 09:41 AM
Think about it...
like everyone was all like
"Ohh maybe it will be awesome" before IC
and all like "Another crisis dooooood! boring" before FC
and all like "Event, event, event, event.... kill me please, Event, event, event" before all the 7 events marvel has had this past year..
But like.. NO ONE is whining about Blackest Night..
Most Highly Anticipated Event Ever? I think so
Charles RB
12-05-2008, 09:46 AM
I haven't seen many people round here talking about Blackest Night, so if it's highly anticipated it's not by anyone I've encountered.
And I've seen people saying "that's dumb" about the multiple coloured Corps.
K-DoG7p7
12-05-2008, 09:48 AM
I haven't seen many people round here talking about Blackest Night, so if it's highly anticipated it's not by anyone I've encountered.
And I've seen people saying "that's dumb" about the multiple coloured Corps.
well the War of light comes before BN...
Sarah Beach
12-05-2008, 09:53 AM
"Blackest Night' most highly anticipated?
No. I don't think so. Not by a long, long, long shot.
I think the readers are so fatigued by the never ending stream of ULTIMATE, GREATEST EVENTS -- that drag on six months or more, that they have TOTALLY stopped caring.
Frankly, at the DC panels at San Diego last summer, the teasing hype for "Blackest Night" met with thundering silence. Nobody really cared. In fact the biggest reactions I saw at any of the panels were the announcements of the SHORT runs pending from ... Neil Gaiman, Kevin Smith and DENNY O'NEIL.
JeffreyWKramer
12-05-2008, 10:14 AM
I pretty much entirely ignore everything GREEN LANTERN related, and I almost universally loathe the big "event" comics, so I'm not anticipating "Blackest Night" at all.
Jared H.
12-05-2008, 10:17 AM
I think most folks who are anticipating and will be buying Blackest Night are those who snagged Sinestro Corps War and have some idea of what to expect.
KevinTBrown
12-05-2008, 10:19 AM
Nope. Not even close.
I'm a HUGE Green Lantern fan, but I'm pretty much "eh, whatever" with this.
Besides, you can book it right now: IT''S GOING TO BE DELAYED. If not by a week or two, possibly even up to a month.
Every time DC does these huge events, there are massive delays.
Most Highly Anticipated Event Ever?
Not likely.
PatrickG
12-05-2008, 10:22 AM
This is why I think a wacky event is called for. Everyone is getting event fatigue from the grim and unbelievably shocking revelations.
Now, granted, less events is probably a good thing but if you must do events, follow models other than disaster movie, action movie, slasher flick and military suspense thriller with a score by Hans Zimmer.
You remember that "Marvel Romance" event awhile back? Do it not as a theme block of one shots but as a mega-event with love triangles and shocking revelations. Essentially some ancient love goddess tries to destroy humanity by enchanting all the pheromones in the world. A crossover about impossibly horny super-heroes acting like characters from a soap opera -- even moreso than usual. A crossover based entirely around unlikely hookups.
And bonus points if Black Panther and Storm get invited to, I dunno, the wedding of Johnny Storm and Rachel Summers and are like, "This makes no sense. They have no history. Have they ever even met?"
Or a screwball teen movie crossover. But one that affects the entire universe. Major changes for the Marvel Universe that hinge on drunken bets, strip poker and a party at the Baxter Building while the FF are away. Not as a one-ofrf like some gag stories but a gag story as big as any serious crossover ever was.
Or my personal favorite, the Anti-Crisis, intentionally designed to fuck continuity into oblivion. Not to simplify, streamline or explain things. A story designed to obfuscate and maim history. Not to reboot or make things modern and accessible. This is the crossover where we say, "Reed Richards and Ben Grimm fought in WWII, yeah. They also fought in the Crimean War. And the Whizzer is Scott Summers' REAL dad." No reset button. Deal with it. Deadpool gets the Infinity Gauntlet and brings back Steve Rogers except now he's a full blooded Cherokee. Wolverine is now married to an exotic dancer in Idaho carrying his triplets. And Ben Grimm is sorceror supreme and Dr. Strange is an old woman. Deal with it. Face front, true believer.
K-DoG7p7
12-05-2008, 10:28 AM
Nope. Not even close.
I'm a HUGE Green Lantern fan, but I'm pretty much "eh, whatever" with this.
Besides, you can book it right now: IT''S GOING TO BE DELAYED. If not by a week or two, possibly even up to a month.
Every time DC does these huge events, there are massive delays.
Not really.. Sinestro Corps War didn have any delays..
Well .. Ok.. GL #25 was 2 weeks late.. but that was because they decided to add more pages.. so you can hardly call that a delay..
Infra-Man
12-05-2008, 10:37 AM
Not the most anticipated ever, but I'm looking forward to Blackest Night.
I just hope they don't make it company wide. It would just lead to more poo and major delays like Fail Crisis.
Keep it in the Lantern books. A nice, tight, well-planned story in a family of books.
Linkara
12-05-2008, 10:52 AM
I for one am looking forward to it. I read Sinestro Corp after it was already over and it makes me wish I had read it during the time it was first out, because that was awesome. Epic storytelling, even if a few bits just made me roll my eyes (Give it up with Supermanboy-Prime...).
I don't think event fatigue wears in if the event is GOOD, although it doesn't help if the event is right on the heels of another event ending.
KevinTBrown
12-05-2008, 11:02 AM
Not really.. Sinestro Corps War didn have any delays..
Well .. Ok.. GL #25 was 2 weeks late.. but that was because they decided to add more pages.. so you can hardly call that a delay..
One shots were delayed.
One of them a month.
The main series was delayed 2 weeks. GLC 2 weeks.
A delay is a delay is a delay....
Major Comma
12-05-2008, 11:05 AM
I dont know how anything in comics is truly the most highly anticipated event,
Because it seems that title is attached to any event that comes along .
But Blackest Night?
Right now I am barely thinking about it.
Rev. Calibos
12-05-2008, 11:11 AM
I'm looking forward to it quite a bit.
When I first learned of the red/orange/blue/etc. lanterns I was on board with everyone who felt 'WTF?' but after reading Rage of the Red Lanterns and seeing how things have been building throughout GL and GLCorps I found that the concept holds promise.
I think we haven't seen a lot of buzz about it yet for two reasons:
1) it's a slow build to another massive arc that's not even going to hit until next summer and
2) there's still just way too much going on right now to really go into great depth about this. RIP, Final Crisis, Secret Invasion, New Krypton, Spider-Man, there's just a bunch of stuff going on currently that has our attention.
jhota
12-05-2008, 12:22 PM
Or my personal favorite, the Anti-Crisis, intentionally designed to fuck continuity into oblivion. Not to simplify, streamline or explain things. A story designed to obfuscate and maim history. Not to reboot or make things modern and accessible. This is the crossover where we say, "Reed Richards and Ben Grimm fought in WWII, yeah. They also fought in the Crimean War. And the Whizzer is Scott Summers' REAL dad." No reset button. Deal with it. Deadpool gets the Infinity Gauntlet and brings back Steve Rogers except now he's a full blooded Cherokee. Wolverine is now married to an exotic dancer in Idaho carrying his triplets. And Ben Grimm is sorceror supreme and Dr. Strange is an old woman. Deal with it. Face front, true believer.
this is, quite simply, the greatest comic story idea i've ever read. even though it's more of a theme than a story.
Karl O'Neill
12-05-2008, 12:28 PM
Hell yeah!
I'll be pre-ordering this comic big time, Been loving green Lantern ever since Rebirth.
next year will be a great year again for fans of sci fi and Green lantern in particular.
Sinestro is badass
Atrocitus is badass
Agent Orange sounds msyterious.
DavidAllred
12-05-2008, 01:06 PM
I agree with the OP. Granted, it's not getting too much attention right now because they don't want to suck the wind out of Final Crisis sales, but I do believe that most comic book junkies that I hang with are more excited about BN, than they've shown in either FC or RIP.
Personally, if it lives up to everything Sinestro Corps War did, it will be a winner for me, whereas both RIP and FC have mostly failed to reach me in any meaningful way at all.
I still say, and maintain, that Sinestro Corps War is the template that DC needs to better understand and format future books from. It was not highly touted, or highly advertised, yet it sold like gang-busters. Further, unlike the new titles released after the Crisis / Countdown stuff, both GL and GLC were able to hang onto to readers, and as near as I can tell, are still hanging onto them.
After Sinestro War, I also noticed that my back issues of GLC doubled in value. My Crisis and Countdown books are barely worth .50 cents.
All in all, it was a success. I think primarily because the story was good. No one got killed off. No one jumped around the multi-verse. And most importantly, you got in and out in 12 issues.
This template was also used in the Rez of Ras a Ghul and worked well there, with the exception of keeping readers around in Nightwing and Robin.
Karl O'Neill
12-05-2008, 01:11 PM
The new krypton crossover templete is working pretty well it seems.
JKCarrier
12-05-2008, 01:23 PM
I'm way out of the loop, I don't even know what "Blackest Night" is. Who's turning evil and/or getting killed off this time?
Charles RB
12-05-2008, 01:29 PM
I just hope they don't make it company wide.
They will, y'know.
Red Jack
12-05-2008, 01:54 PM
personally I'm dead sick of these freaking epic xovers.
the only one I really loved was ANNIHILATION and then, to a lesser degree CONQUEST.
Which, oddly, got almost no attention.
4PointOh
12-05-2008, 01:59 PM
personally I'm dead sick of these freaking epic xovers.
the only one I really loved was ANNIHILATION and then, to a lesser degree CONQUEST.
Which, oddly, got almost no attention.
What are ANNIHILATION and CONQUEST?
Karl O'Neill
12-05-2008, 02:11 PM
I'm way out of the loop, I don't even know what "Blackest Night" is. Who's turning evil and/or getting killed off this time?
The dead will Rise.
Blackest Night= The Next Green lantern cosmic event, and a DCU event.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Blackest_Night.jpg/250px-Blackest_Night.jpg
Infra-Man
12-05-2008, 02:21 PM
They will, y'know.
And if they do they will fail.
Karl O'Neill
12-05-2008, 02:27 PM
They will, y'know.
I heard that Blackest Night will be a Six issue mini series by Geoff Johns and an artist, not yet annouched.
and six issues between green lantern and Green lantern corps by peter Tomasi and Geoff johns.
so roughly 12 issues, plus specials.
hopefully, I want more cyborg superman and the like.
Crowley
12-05-2008, 02:32 PM
not really relevant or super anticipated.
The Dead will rise carries little water.
Batman just "died," Hal was just resurrected, Barry's coming back, Kon's back. Spoiler's back, Jason Todd is back. Ice is back.
Who's the dead we can't wait to arise? They're all back...
Charles RB
12-05-2008, 02:38 PM
I think they meant "hordes of zombies!".
And the main Green Lanterns teaming up with other-corps Lanterns to fight a massive zombie apocalypse does sound sort of fun, in a schlocky violent way, except Garth Ennis did it on Judge Dredd in 1992. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgement_Day_(Judge_Dredd))
We probably won't see Guy Gardner nuke out five planets to stop the zombies or Hal teaming with a before-he-was-dead Bart Allen.
Karl O'Neill
12-05-2008, 02:38 PM
not really relevant or super anticipated.
The Dead will rise carries little water.
Batman just "died," Hal was just resurrected, Barry's coming back, Kon's back. Spoiler's back, Jason Todd is back. Ice is back.
Who's the dead we can't wait to arise? They're all back...
Aquaman, The original firestorm, Superboy, martian Manhunter, Doomsday,
The list goes on and on!
and trust me, Judging by what i have seen on newsarama and comic bloc, People are dying to read this stuff.
Mercurialblonde
12-05-2008, 02:42 PM
I'm not event fatigued. I'm shitty Bendis-event fatigued. He hasn't delivered on a single event yet in his whole time in Marvel, and yet they just keep letting him run the universe over there. It's mind boggling. Secret Invasion and House of M have the exact same problems, and both blow chunks. The core book is never satisfying, and he always fails to deliver a satisfying climax in his event books.
I think his avengers work is the worst stuff that Bendis has done. He needs to get back to what he does well, which is street level books about one hero and their supporting cast.
Global Honored
12-05-2008, 02:43 PM
If the Blood spewing Cat plays a major role...SOLD! Biggest Event Evah!!!
Mercurialblonde
12-05-2008, 02:46 PM
If the Blood spewing Cat plays a major role...SOLD! Biggest Event Evah!!!
Rage Cat!
Where is my Rage Cat mini-series DC!!!? It should have been out YESTERDAY!
Give the people what they want!
The event I want is Dogs vs. Cats Across Infinite Universeses....Crisis.
Krypto and Streaky team up against Rage Cat and various other evil animals. in an event that CHANGES EVERYTHING!
heystacy
12-05-2008, 02:48 PM
I forgot about this event. :redface: With all these power rings, I'm waiting for Sauron to pull out one ring to rule them all.
*rimshot* :biggrin:
Pink Bat Maxine
12-05-2008, 02:54 PM
Rage Cat!
Where is my Rage Cat mini-series DC!!!? It should have been out YESTERDAY!
Give the people what they want!
The event I want is Dogs vs. Cats Across Infinite Universeses....Crisis.
Krypto and Streaky team up against Rage Cat and various other evil animals. in an event that CHANGES EVERYTHING!
Rage Cat Vs. G'nort..... it has to happen.
Red Jack
12-05-2008, 03:41 PM
What are ANNIHILATION and CONQUEST?
http://www.fanboyplanet.com/comics/images/s_annihilation_pro.jpg
http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/images/0709/AnnihilationConquest2Cover.jpg
Sleepers that blow the others to little tiny bits.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 04:26 AM
except it doesn't blow the sinestro corps war away!
Darrell D.
12-06-2008, 05:50 AM
Sinestro Corps was an okay story, nothing special, but entertaining. I may try Blackest Night based on that, but the Power Ranger Lanterns has to be one of the stupidest ideas ever. I hope they quietly retcon that as soon as Geoff Johns leaves DC. What emotion is the Black Lantern supposed to represent? Death?
Hybrid2
12-06-2008, 06:33 AM
http://www.fanboyplanet.com/comics/images/s_annihilation_pro.jpg
http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/images/0709/AnnihilationConquest2Cover.jpg
Sleepers that blow the others to little tiny bits.
Those where the best event Marvel had in years.
Conquest got a few mistake at the end.
but was great.
Wolrd War Hulk started great.but realy failled at the end.
Secret Invasion was realy badly done.
I have to say i'm curious about the lanterns war.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 07:08 AM
Sinestro Corps was an okay story, nothing special, but entertaining. I may try Blackest Night based on that, but the Power Ranger Lanterns has to be one of the stupidest ideas ever. I hope they quietly retcon that as soon as Geoff Johns leaves DC. What emotion is the Black Lantern supposed to represent? Death?
And Yet, Reviewers referred to that idea as one of the best ideas in years, more grant morrison idea.
he basically set up about 20 years of story alone with amazing splash page of the war of light.
only 52 comes close to the greatness of the sniestro corps war in the last ten years in my opinion.
Peace.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 07:10 AM
awesome review of one issue alone:
Best Shots Extra
Green Lantern #25
From: DC Comics
Writer: Geoff Johns
Art: Ivan Reis and Ethan Van Sciver with Oclair Albert, Julio Ferreira and Ivan Reis (yes, again, but he’s inking this time).
Color: Moose Baumann and Rod Reis
Review by Troy Brownfield
Disclaimer #1: In the interest of full disclosure, it’s a fact that I occasionally co-write a column with Geoff Johns here at Newsarama called “Justice Socializing”. It’s been dormant for a while as I work on an out-of-control history of the Legion for its return installment, but I thought you should know.
Disclaimer #2: In large part, that doesn’t matter, because Green Lantern #25 is going to be the most critic-proof mainstream book that most people will have reviewed this year.
In this, the Age of Crossovers, Marvel and DC have managed to share common ground in the most unlikely of places: the space opera. While each publisher floated large-scale events (like Civil War and Countdown, respectively), they have found greater artistic success by running smaller sub-crossovers that focus on a tight set of books overseen by (predominantly) one writer and a cohesive group acting on a shared vision. For Marvel, that came in the form of the very entertaining Annihilation. For DC, that story has been The Sinestro Corps War.
Geoff Johns made his reputation in comics with two early strengths: the ability to infuse new life in older concepts (like his ongoing success with the JSA), and the ability to provide fixes to characters that were thought beyond reclamation (like Hawkman). Johns managed to work both of those skill sets into Green Lantern: Rebirth, getting Hal Jordan back into the role and shaking the dust off of a few of the creakier notions of the overall concept. With Corps War, he’s pushed it up a notch, infusing the GL mythology with several new layers, and by this issue, bringing a nearly Morrisonian knack for mad invention into the proceedings.
At this point, two things should be clear: if you’ve been enjoying this storyline, then you’re absolutely going to love the conclusion; and if you’ve hated this storyline, then you should seriously question whether modern super-hero comics are for you anymore. That second part isn’t a judgment on anyone in particular. I just have to say that week-in and week-out, I see various posters and various bloggers gnashing their teeth at a variety of mainstream books. If it’s that much of a chore to read them, save yourself the $2.99 and find something that you might enjoy. There are literally hundreds of books to choose from in all categories, and if you find that you can’t enjoy Green Lantern anymore, then just don’t buy it. If you aren’t getting paid to do it, then you’re essentially indulging in the functional equivalent of hitting yourself in the face with a brick every Wednesday. If you don’t like it, why do it? I know that the counter-claim could be made that you love comics and you just want them to be better. That’s great; my suggestion at that point would be to find something that you do enjoy and spread the gospel on it, or put aside the posting and blogging and get to work on creating your own brand new thing that we could maybe all love due to the benefit of your own admitted love of comics.
Now that that’s been said . . .
Green Lantern #25 stands out as an adrenaline-fueled kick. I can envision Geoff Johns pounding away at the keyboard, cackling with glee. This is a giant popcorn movie on paper, a summer film that ran all the way until Christmas. It’s probably not going to change the course of human history. It’s not Pynchon or Joyce. But it’s a very entertaining, action-packed burst of cathartic “it’s time for the good guys to lay the beat down” energy.
It’s been rumored that this issue would see the introduction of the hate-powered Red Lantern Corps. If only it were that simple. Johns and company ratchet up the GL mythology with a set of early reveals that function as the payoff for plot seeds that were planted from the start of the new run. Instead of being tremendously shocked, you’ll slap your forehead in “Of course!” recognition.
From there, it flows into FINAL BATTLE mode, with Hal Jordan and Kyle Rayner squaring off against Sinestro and part of his faction in Coast City while John Stewart, Guy Gardner, the rest of the Corps and the rallied heroes of Earth take on Cyborg Superman, Superman-Prime, the rest of the Sinestro Corp, and the Anti-Monitor in New York. Not much here is small, kids.
There’s not much more to say that won’t segue into spoiler-heavy territory. For action fans, it’s an extremely satisfying conclusion, including a terrifically staged confrontation between Jordan, Rayner, and Sinestro. Yes, at points it gets very violent; I would equate it to several sequences from Return of the King in terms of scale and the level of punishment dished out to various characters. However, as I indicated before, it’s very cathartic. It’s heroes with their backs to the wall returning from the brink of disaster. It’s pump your fist and yell payoffs. It’s really, really fun super-hero comics.
Ivan Reis and Ethan Van Sciver deserve a huge, HUGE hand for making this all work. There are literally thousands of characters on the pages here, and the first five pages are as striking as any DC work this year. The two pencilers complement each other remarkably well, and the flow is incredible. Special note should be made of the colorists, Moose Baumann and Rod Reis; first, because there should be more guys in every field named Moose, and second, for doing a bang-up job with the huge cast (particularly the borderline insane pages 10 and 11). Amid the carnage, the art here is just gorgeous.
And then, of course, there’s the icing. The last two pages are reserved for what’s become one of Johns’s favorite tricks since Justice Society of America #1. If you see that trailer and don’t either laugh in appreciation at the audacity of it or drop your jaw in “That’s crazy!” admiration, then you’re no fun at parties.
Green Lantern #25 is exactly what it should be: a bold, splashy, unabashedly over-the-top cosmic super-hero entertainment of epic proportions.
Troy Brownfield captains the Best Shots team for Newsarama. Bring it, Red Lanterns-in-training. Bring it.
The Beast Of Yucca Flats
12-06-2008, 07:18 AM
Sinestro Corps was an okay story, nothing special, but entertaining. I may try Blackest Night based on that, but the Power Ranger Lanterns has to be one of the stupidest ideas ever. I hope they quietly retcon that as soon as Geoff Johns leaves DC. What emotion is the Black Lantern supposed to represent? Death?
Death's an emotion now? Man...
stealthwise
12-06-2008, 07:43 AM
Death's an emotion now? Man...
It would be the complete and total lack of emotion, wouldn't it? The opposite of willpower?
I just don't get why there's not a colour for, like, basic happiness.
Anyways, in comparing Annihilation to Sinestro Corps War, I gotta say that they're both entertaining space opera with some flaws throughout, but I preferred the latter more because I like the GLs and can't be bothered with characters like Nova. Both of them came out of nowhere (sales-wise) to become successes, but neither was particularly innovative, merely competently executed.
DC announced Blackest Night far too soon. Comics don't work like movies, you can't say that something is coming in a couple of years and get fans all frenzied up about it in the way that you could with, say, Back to the Future II.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 07:50 AM
I think getting an artist to do all issues on time is the key to sucess these days, considering how late books have been these last few years, not just at dc, but marvel as well.
The reason i prefer Sinestro corps war over any other stories is because it has more characters in it i care about and bigger and badder villains
Superboy prime
sinestro
All his army and the stand out members-arkillo, karu-sil, enkafoes, Ranx, Bedovian, despotilis
Cyborg superman
All the Manhunters
Nero(from the ion title, used to wear down kyle)
The Anti-Friggin Monitor
and green lanterns rock, Period.
thebhamgunslinger
12-06-2008, 08:49 AM
I heard that Blackest Night will be a Six issue mini series by Geoff Johns and an artist, not yet annouched.
and six issues between green lantern and Green lantern corps by peter Tomasi and Geoff johns.
so roughly 12 issues, plus specials.
hopefully, I want more cyborg superman and the like.
According to EVS (http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73949&postcount=364), Blackest Night will be a six issue mini with six issues of GL and six issues of GLC.
All I know is that there will be a 6 issue book called BLACKEST NIGHT, and there will be 6 issues of GL and GLCORPS as well. I'm sure that there will be other crossovers and things, but I'm not involved in that decision making process, nor would I want to be! I hope it stays as confined as possible, so that Geoff can maintain a strict quality control.
I personally would rather it stay within the GL books, but as long as the story is good and Geoff Johns writes the main mini book too, I don't really care
Red Jack
12-06-2008, 08:51 AM
except it doesn't blow the sinestro corps war away!
Yeah. We'll have to agree to disagree. In a field of overwrought, unnecessarily complex, top-heavy crossovers, ANNIHILATION and CONQUEST were both rip-roaringly exciting, laugh out loud funny and, on occasion, truly touching.
This was elegant work by several coordinated teams (another victory over the others) that somehow managed not to get bogged down under its own metastory for even one panel.
These two xovers and their attendant minis should be used as an object lesson for future editors and writers on how to do it right.
There's just no comparison.
Darrell D.
12-06-2008, 09:01 AM
Death's an emotion now? Man...
So is willpower, obviously.
stealthwise
12-06-2008, 09:04 AM
Yeah. We'll have to agree to disagree. In a field of overwrought, unnecessarily complex, top-heavy crossovers, ANNIHILATION and CONQUEST were both rip-roaringly exciting, laugh out loud funny and, on occasion, truly touching.
This was elegant work by several coordinated teams (another victory over the others) that somehow managed not to get bogged down under its own metastory for even one panel.
These two xovers and their attendant minis should be used as an object lesson for future editors and writers on how to do it right.
There's just no comparison.
See though, while you make a good point about the "overwrought, unnecessarily complex, top-heavy crossovers," the other stuff you mention is really subjective.
I didn't find Annihilation exciting, not that funny, and not at all touching. It seemed like there were some character beats missing throughout it, probably due to the brief amount of time we got with each character. Example: Drax and the girl he was with started off promising in the mini-series, but from there it kind of petered out in service to the larger "BIG EXPLOSIONS" part of the mini-series itself.
I also didn't give a crap about Drax and his mission to kill Thanos. If you're long-time fans of the characters (and I used to read Infinity Watch) then it might be worthwhile, but it all felt too... forced and by the numbers. It's very 1980s-textbook storytelling. There's nothing wrong with that, and you're right in that I'd like to see Marvel and DC simply try and tell straightforward stories without going nuts with it, but I don't think that Annihilation was really that great.
I'll admit that I didn't read Conquest though (already spent $50 on the three Annihilation trades, and that felt like enough), but it didn't seem that great from an objective viewpoint either. The dialogue was cliched in parts, the art was at times inconsistent in how characters were portrayed-there's always some variance from artist to artist, but there seemed to be a lack of cohesive feel throughout, and that was magnified by reading it in trade all at once-and the plotting was very direct and kind of... basic. Although I did like that Thanos started shit up just because he was bored.
The cosmic stuff, like, the high-end Silver Surfer/Galactus crap, was boring, but that's subjective, I'm sure other people found it fascinating, or at least interesting.
That's not to say that Sinestro Corps War was great either, though, it had plenty of missteps, most of which were due to Johns's writing, along with some terrible art in parts (mostly the one-shots) and delays to the main story. It also had a lot of "attack! fall back!" that made for anti-climactic beats that one wouldn't want. I just enjoyed it more because I'm more interested in the GL stuff than I am characters like Nova or Firelord.
stealthwise
12-06-2008, 09:06 AM
On another note, while I don't necessarily care (or want to know) about a writer or artist's political views, I find it hard to ignore when EVS came here briefly and was such a dick about it. I'm finding it hard to justify supporting his work because of that.
Red Jack
12-06-2008, 09:06 AM
See though, while you make a good point about the "overwrought, unnecessarily complex, top-heavy crossovers," the other stuff you mention is really subjective.... I just enjoyed it more because I'm more interested in the GL stuff than I am characters like Nova or Firelord.
That's what "agree to disagree" means.
Darrell D.
12-06-2008, 09:08 AM
And Yet, Reviewers referred to that idea as one of the best ideas in years, more grant morrison idea.
he basically set up about 20 years of story alone with amazing splash page of the war of light.
only 52 comes close to the greatness of the sniestro corps war in the last ten years in my opinion.
Peace.
Like I said, Sinestro Corps War was a fun superhero event, no more, no less. Entertaining, in a mindless blockbuster popcorn movie way. Nothing wrong with that.
stealthwise
12-06-2008, 09:13 AM
That's what "agree to disagree" means.
True enough, I just don't know if it should be "the object lesson" for future projects. I'd like to see them strive for more, in a less convoluted manner than we've been getting from SI and FC.
Darrell D.
12-06-2008, 09:17 AM
On another note, while I don't necessarily care (or want to know) about a writer or artist's political views, I find it hard to ignore when EVS came here briefly and was such a dick about it. I'm finding it hard to justify supporting his work because of that.
If I went by that, I would never enjoy the works of Ditko. And while reading how EVS posted on these boards recently, I could certainly understand your position. Myself, I don't support his work because I find it boring, all style over substance and his sense of anatomy and perspective shaky.
stealthwise
12-06-2008, 09:19 AM
If I went by that, I would never enjoy the works of Ditko. And while reading how EVS posted on these boards recently, I could certainly understand your position. Myself, I don't support his work because I find it boring, all style over substance and his sense of anatomy and perspective shaky.
You lucky bastard. If I only I could notice those technical flaws in his work. I still get a fan-boner from reading GL Rebirth.
Darrell D.
12-06-2008, 09:24 AM
You lucky bastard. If I only I could notice those technical flaws in his work. I still get a fan-boner from reading GL Rebirth.
Really? GL:Rebirth just really turns me off, I feel the art is incredibly ugly and muddy. The story, I thought was hilarious.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 09:29 AM
stealthwise,
it's been 8 years since a last page blew me away like this, nothing that came afte this has yet to have the same effect on me.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/GL14.jpg
Red Jack
12-06-2008, 10:13 AM
True enough, I just don't know if it should be "the object lesson" for future projects. I'd like to see them strive for more, in a less convoluted manner than we've been getting from SI and FC.
Here's why:
1) There's no bigfooting of or contradictions between the maxi series, the xover minis or the few mainstream titles that they affect.
2) each of the minis stands alone without either a need to read the others or the maxi series.
3)Characters that were thought either dead or unworkable were not only ressurrected but improved and, most important, without sacrificing anything of what had come before in each of their histories.
4) There is no cosmic character that is more overused than Galactus and yet here we got to see something new both about him and from him.
5) Finally somebody has written a decent Silver Surfer.
6) Rather than creating a gigantic marketing scheme which, to me, is all Final Crisis is, the ANNIHILATION maxis simply told a great yarn that spawned two awesome books: NOVA and GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY. Fantastic editing job. Final (perpetual?) Crisis is fun, certainly, in places, but, ultimately, it's just a big waddling mess.
7) Rather than forcing characters into inconsistent and, in some cases self-contradictory modes to service the meta story , as has been the case in SECRET INVASION, ANNIHILATION and CONQUEST (and their minis) took pains to ensure character and plot continuity with everything that happened to their participants both currently and in their pasts. Beautiful editing job.
I enjoy the GL stuff. Very much, in fact. Johns even got me to enjoy Hal Jordan by finally giving him a personality after all these years. But, as much as I do enjoy it, it lacks, for me, the truly cosmic elements of ANNIHILATION and simply doesn't use them as well IMO.
MARVEL's cosmic heroes have languished as un-useable for decades. A sort of third rail. Abnett/Lanning and the others in the crew have put that myth to rest and shoved a stake through its heart. Not an easy thing to do and yet they make it all look like cake.
I'd put the GL stuff as a close second with both of the giant Xover series fighting for a distant 3rd and 4th positions. World War Hulk, aside from the tasty art (JRJR is gold-plated awesome), was a Crash & Burn from the beginning.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 10:33 AM
The problem with ANNIHILATION unlike the Sinestro corps war is, The Sinestro Corps Literally broke the internet in two with the amount of shock and discussion by the fans who were reading it and the fans starting Threads looking to get into it, and every issue kept selling out each and every month.
ANNIHILATION was very satisyfing for fans, but like sinestro war,it wasn;'t hyped up enough.
The green lantern fans came out stronger and supported the sinestro corps war and propelling it to story of the year.
I like ANNIHILATION vol and but how crap is Vol 2? That skrull mini series and Ronan were awful, i just want them to end.
Charles RB
12-06-2008, 10:38 AM
True enough, I just don't know if it should be "the object lesson" for future projects.
I dunno, the average reaction to Annihilation and Sinestro Corps seems more favourable than for other crossovers. There's something to be learnt there, if only "don't take over the whole company or people will actively hate you/be bored of you".
stealthwise,
it's been 8 years since a last page blew me away like this, nothing that came afte this has yet to have the same effect on me.
That's because you're a pre-existing fan though, you know and like these characters already. I'm not a GL fan so it's more a "huh, that looks a bit good" outside-looking-in reaction; similarly, I doubt you'd get the same thing as me if I showed you Judge Dredd turning his cousins away from Mega-City One.
stealthwise
12-06-2008, 11:13 AM
Red Jack and CharlesRB,
I agree with both of you, those are good points that you make, and strangely enough, they all seem like things that should be COMMON SENSE when planning a crossover, but have been disregarded by Marvel and DC in the past decade.
I like ANNIHILATION vol and but how crap is Vol 2? That skrull mini series and Ronan were awful, i just want them to end.
Yeah, that was an absolutely terrible volume. When I finally get around to re-reading Annihilation (assuming I ever do), I'm just going to skip volume 2 altogether and see how it shakes out.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 11:33 AM
Vol 2 is actually quite pointless, because a one shot could have propelled those plot points forward in 30 pages.
I thought the superman prime special by geoff johns was magical.
You know when the sunlight hits Prime and he rises to the sky, rips off his sinestro corps uniform and bades in the yellow sun light.
One of the Greatest villains in comics period.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Owuj4gj8iiQ/SDH8Q-JXAJI/AAAAAAAACj4/hbWbcQ4S9bs/s1600/legion5.jpg
Pink Bat Maxine
12-06-2008, 11:36 AM
I'd have to say that the Second Coming of Christ may be more anticipated. By a bit.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 11:38 AM
Not even the Green lantern corps of OA could hold him.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/insane.jpg
Red Jack
12-06-2008, 11:38 AM
Vol 2 is actually quite pointless, because a one shot could have propelled those plot points forward in 30 pages.
I thought the superman prime special by geoff johns was magical.
You know when the sunlight hits Prime and he rises to the sky, rips off his sinestro corps uniform and bades in the yellow sun light.
One of the Greatest villains in comics period.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Owuj4gj8iiQ/SDH8Q-JXAJI/AAAAAAAACj4/hbWbcQ4S9bs/s1600/legion5.jpg
Ever? ALL the Secret Six villains are more interesting than Prime. CHESHIRE is more interesting.
I think Prime is actually pretty one-note.
He's essentially a big whiny baby who is powerful enough to hurt pretty much anyone who tells him to grow up. And, if whoever's behind this "crisis" somehow attempts to "redeem" him after all these murders, that will be just one more sour note in what is an uneven symphony at best.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 11:42 AM
Jerks!! I list the cool moments from the sinestro corps war all day long. as i have them saved in memory and PC.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/scatter.jpg
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 11:44 AM
Prime always planned tp defeat the Anti-Monitor
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/backstor10.jpg
Charles RB
12-06-2008, 11:46 AM
they all seem like things that should be COMMON SENSE when planning a crossover, but have been disregarded by Marvel and DC in the past decade.
And hey, ignore it once or twice, you can make some money out of it - this isn't as sustainable though, and will make for some odd trades.
(Hell, I still remember issues about 2000 AD's Judge Dredd having crossovers with its own spin-off comic...)
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 11:46 AM
Prime Minches The Alan Moore created Sodam Yat.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion12.jpg
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 11:48 AM
Prime is badass, I even have his figurine
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion4.jpg
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 11:49 AM
Prime sonic booms yat's head
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion8.jpg
Charles RB
12-06-2008, 11:50 AM
Jerks!! I list the cool moments from the sinestro corps war all day long.
But, again, I don't see that as a cool moment - all I'm seeing is an evil guy turning up and being a brat. He's not actually doing anything except landing really hard.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 11:53 AM
Is that Guy gardner i hear screaming?
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone.jpg
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 11:56 AM
But, again, I don't see that as a cool moment - all I'm seeing is an evil guy turning up and being a brat. He's not actually doing anything except landing really hard.
He is a cosmic powerhouse, His landing is arrogant and nasty. he decimates the JSA/JLA/Titans on more than one occasion.
love him or hate him, he is a very compelling villain. Tragic, Funny,powerful,whiny,Dangerous.evil.
Charles RB
12-06-2008, 11:57 AM
Is that Guy gardner i hear screaming?
It's the virus guy who's infected him that's screaming, surely?
Charles RB
12-06-2008, 11:59 AM
He is a cosmic powerhouse, His landing is arrogant and nasty.
It's a guy landing and his land makes a boom. It's not something I haven't seen done before, and his dialogue is annoying.
he decimates the JSA/JLA/Titans on more than one occasion.
Which he's not doing in that panel.
Now the pages of him brutalising Sodom Yat, that looks cool because there he's doing something (hurting a guy and causing massive shockwaves in the process).
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 12:03 PM
It's the virus guy who's infected him that's screaming, surely?
Guy is screaming in pain as SINESTRO CORPS Member Despotillis is infecting him,
Then another Alan Moore created hero saves Guy, Leelze Pon!
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 12:05 PM
It's a guy landing and his land makes a boom. It's not something I haven't seen done before, and his dialogue is annoying.
Which he's not doing in that panel.
Now the pages of him brutalising Sodom Yat, that looks cool because there he's doing something (hurting a guy and causing massive shockwaves in the process).
His dialogue is supposed to be like that, but you are right, You don't have to like it, I find it pretty refreshing,
With Black adam I except the hauty full of himself king kinda talk, with Zoom(my fav villain) I expect his madness and time distortion slur coming out,
with prime, I like the whinyness!
:)
Charles RB
12-06-2008, 12:08 PM
Guy is screaming in pain as SINESTRO CORPS Member Despotillis is infecting him
But he starts screaming when Leelze is injected into him and his eyes flashed yellow, so it looks like it was Despotillis yelling through him.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 12:22 PM
could be, i am not sure.
good talking to you dude.
TCJohnson
12-06-2008, 12:56 PM
I like ANNIHILATION vol and but how crap is Vol 2? That skrull mini series and Ronan were awful, i just want them to end.
I thought the Super-Skrulls miniseries was great. Made him one of my favorite characters in the Marvel U.
Red Jack
12-06-2008, 12:57 PM
He is a cosmic powerhouse, His landing is arrogant and nasty. he decimates the JSA/JLA/Titans on more than one occasion.
love him or hate him, he is a very compelling villain. Tragic, Funny,powerful,whiny,Dangerous.evil.
No. He's not compelling to me. Prime is the LEAST interesting thing in all this. He's a hurricane that whines a lot. Ho hum. If he wasn't Superboy nobody would care.
Red Jack
12-06-2008, 01:00 PM
I thought the Super-Skrulls miniseries was great. Made him one of my favorite characters in the Marvel U.
Ditto. Javier is awesome.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 01:03 PM
I thought the Super-Skrulls miniseries was great. Made him one of my favorite characters in the Marvel U.
I didn;t like it, and i bought it and tried to like it, I hated the art too,
Ivan Reis, Ethan van sciver and pat Gleason put better pages into sinestro corps war you have to admit?
Pink Bat Maxine
12-06-2008, 01:11 PM
No. He's not compelling to me. Prime is the LEAST interesting thing in all this. He's a hurricane that whines a lot. Ho hum. If he wasn't Superboy nobody would care.
I dunno..... to me I find a spoiled brat with ultimate power TERRIFYING! :biggrin:
Alex L
12-06-2008, 01:33 PM
Is that Guy gardner i hear screaming?
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/everyoneone.jpg
Prime sonic booms yat's head
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion8.jpg
Prime is badass, I even have his figurine
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion4.jpg
Prime Minches The Alan Moore created Sodam Yat.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/primevsion12.jpg
Prime always planned tp defeat the Anti-Monitor
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/backstor10.jpg
Jerks!! I list the cool moments from the sinestro corps war all day long. as i have them saved in memory and PC.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/scatter.jpg
Not even the Green lantern corps of OA could hold him.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/insane.jpg
Okay, I don't know if this is Rumbles-style posting (not a regular there, or even a regular lurker -- but the image tags do say "Superman Prime Respect" which might be an indicator) but this is really, really annoying.
All the moreso because the charge isn't "SBP is a physically weak character" but rather "SBP is not a particularly intriguing villain" to which you post scans of him beating people up.
Pink Bat Maxine
12-06-2008, 01:35 PM
Come to think of it..... spoiled brat with ultimate power.....?
Superboy Prime is a George W. Bush Analogue!!!!!!!!!
FEEEEEEAR HIM!
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 01:40 PM
Okay, I don't know if this is Rumbles-style posting (not a regular there, or even a regular lurker -- but the image tags do say "Superman Prime Respect" which might be an indicator) but this is really, really annoying.
All the moreso because the charge isn't "SBP is a physically weak character" but rather "SBP is not a particularly intriguing villain" to which you post scans of him beating people up.
UM? what Point are you trying to make?
Most of the scans are what he done in the sinestro corps war, which takes place before the Blackest Night.
A highly anticipated Green lantern event. And Yes, prime is compelling,The case for isvery strong.
If you lost your home world,while helping the save other peoples world and then being exciled to another dimension, You'd go mad too.
Prime is twisted and sick, and i love him:cool:
Alex L
12-06-2008, 01:58 PM
UM? what Point are you trying to make?
That strong does not equal interesting.
Beating up Sodam Yat does not make Prime a compelling villain, any more than beating up Superman made people want to read about Doomsday.
(Hunter Zolomon version) Zoom's appeal isn't rooted in his ability to beat Wally in a foot race. Anyone who sees that as the strongest aspect of his character, is completely missing the point.
And Yes, prime is compelling,The case for isvery strong.
If you lost your home world,while helping the save other peoples world and then being exciled to another dimension, You'd go mad too.
Prime is twisted and sick, and i love him:cool:
Now you're getting somewhere.
That is a bit more of a look into what would make someone want to read a story involving SBP -- but unfortunately, he's still not that interesting of a character.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 02:05 PM
That strong does not equal interesting.
Beating up Sodam Yat does not make Prime a compelling villain, any more than beating up Superman made people want to read about Doomsday.
(Hunter Zolomon version) Zoom's appeal isn't rooted in his ability to beat Wally in a foot race. Anyone who sees that as the strongest aspect of his character, is completely missing the point.
Now you're getting somewhere.
That is a bit more of a look into what would make someone want to read a story involving SBP -- but unfortunately, he's still not that interesting of a character.
I know what you are getting at, I don't buy certain comics because of certain powers and feats although they are pretty cool.
If Geoff Johns feels Prime is compelling enough to use Prime in some of his biggest stories, Then I am fine with that.
I am not being sycophantic either, Johns hasn;'t let me down yet and i am collecting comics years.
bendis, Millar, ellis, ennis ,morrison have all disappointed me with comics in the past, Johns's has yet to attempt to.
and I can confirm, via PM that Johns truel believes that Superboy prime will be remembered as a compelling, badass superman villain. green lantern villain and general DCU villain.
Darrell D.
12-06-2008, 02:22 PM
Not even the Green lantern corps of OA could hold him.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/insane.jpg
Why did the Corps let him have a knife in his cell to cut himself with?
Oh, I get it, he used his fingernail. Except he doesn't have super-powers in his cell, right? So, how does that work? Did he file his fingernails down to razor points before he got thrown in the cosmic hoosegow? Or, did the Guardians just figure he was pretty emo, and figured he had to hurt himself to feel alive. I can imagine emo-rock being pumped into his green box as he cuts himself. And crying himself to sleep each night, blubbering that no one understands him.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 02:27 PM
Why did the Corps let him have a knife in his cell to cut himself with?
Oh, I get it, he used his fingernail. Except he doesn't have super-powers in his cell, right? So, how does that work? Did he file his fingernails down to razor points before he got thrown in the cosmic hoosegow? Or, did the Guardians just figure he was pretty emo, and figured he had to hurt himself to feel alive. I can imagine emo-rock being pumped into his green box as he cuts himself. And crying himself to sleep each night, blubbering that no one understands him.
You are not very bright are you?
yes, he has no powers inside this cell, there his chest is just flesh then, and his finger nail just a finger nail.
basically, you could do that to youself without powers.
Pink Bat Maxine
12-06-2008, 02:27 PM
Not even the Green lantern corps of OA could hold him.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/insane.jpg
Man, I LOVE how this page mirrors the end of COIE, with two guards talking about the Psycho-Pirate, then a cut to him in his padded cell, zooming out on him instead of in.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 02:29 PM
Man, I LOVE how this page mirrors the end of COIE, with two guards talking about the Psycho-Pirate, then a cut to him in his padded cell, zooming out on him instead of in.
somebody needs to use Psycho Pirate again in one of their titles, I believe he has plenty of potential to become a great villain.
Pink Bat Maxine
12-06-2008, 02:32 PM
somebody needs to use Psycho Pirate again in one of their titles, I believe he has plenty of potential to become a great villain.
After he 'gets his head put together,", anyway. :wink:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Deathpp.PNG/200px-Deathpp.PNG
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 02:34 PM
After he 'gets his head put together,", anyway. :wink:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Deathpp.PNG/200px-Deathpp.PNG
Geoff John's Powergirl Mini series shows that Pirate can re-form himself out of his mask.
regenerate himself.
I think Marv Wolfman used him again in the Raven special Mini series, something i had no interest in.
Pink Bat Maxine
12-06-2008, 02:36 PM
Geoff John's Powergirl Mini series shows that Pirate can re-form himself out of his mask.
regenerate himself.
I think Marv Wolfman used him again in the Raven special Mini series, something i had no interest in.
Not him, but the Medusa Mask was used.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 02:50 PM
Not him, but the Medusa Mask was used.
sounds like a cool plot device, Like the Pirate himself, I want to see what makes him tick.
TCJohnson
12-06-2008, 02:52 PM
I didn;t like it, and i bought it and tried to like it, I hated the art too,
Ivan Reis, Ethan van sciver and pat Gleason put better pages into sinestro corps war you have to admit?
I don't know....it just seems like apple and oranges. Greg Titus had such a different style that I have trouble comparing them. Titus works has a very cartoony style to it while Ivan Reis and Ethan van Scriver is going for a more realistic style. So I can't say whose is actually better. I do admit that Titus's style is less mainstream and I can see why people don't like it.
Over all, though, I still love that series. I like the way they were able to make the Super-Skrull a protagonist of the story without making him less of an asshole than he always has been.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 02:57 PM
I think ethan van sciver's art is so detailed it;s unreal. how can one human being be able to draw all that detail?
check this for detail and symbolism
http://api.ning.com/files/8IBMkyB8oM6lVcqRsQ-gI6SctclIQJ6KsmhLSkEn0zDcBl68wdtNptLTUqiNvCHkQbD36 pQtRt3hercHVDJhPur8bOWbuSl4/Green_Lantern_25_pages_67.jpg
Chris Hansbrough
12-06-2008, 03:06 PM
I don't know....it just seems like apple and oranges. Greg Titus had such a different style that I have trouble comparing them. Titus works has a very cartoony style to it while Ivan Reis and Ethan van Scriver is going for a more realistic style. So I can't say whose is actually better. I do admit that Titus's style is less mainstream and I can see why people don't like it.
Over all, though, I still love that series. I like the way they were able to make the Super-Skrull a protagonist of the story without making him less of an asshole than he always has been.
exactly....it added a layer of depth to a character I hated before....I actually kind of miss Praxagora though....it was an interesting character I would have enjoyed seeing an exploratin of those 2
Charles RB
12-06-2008, 03:40 PM
How do the Red Lanterns NOT DIE with all the blood-vomiting?
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 04:24 PM
How do the Red Lanterns NOT DIE with all the blood-vomiting?
Good question, I guess the current arc will explore that part.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 04:31 PM
On A more constructive/positive note,
any fans of Atrocitus, I think it;s a cool villain name, and his motives are actually really interesting.
http://prettythings.pullbot.com/artworks/116351/GL-Cv36_wide.jpg
Charles RB
12-06-2008, 04:34 PM
I'd say it's a silly name but I like Judge Death, so I can barely talk!
stealthwise
12-06-2008, 04:49 PM
Ugh, the posts about Prime and Super-Skrull are making me hate BOTH events.
Someone talk about something COOL that happened, please!
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 04:52 PM
Ugh, the posts about Prime and Super-Skrull are making me hate BOTH events.
Someone talk about something COOL that happened, please!
John stewert doesn't have to do anything, but stay BLACK!
That is a cool line from sinestro corps war, As he battles the cosmic entity Parralax.
Charles RB
12-06-2008, 04:53 PM
Someone talk about something COOL that happened, please!
Blade came back to Britain to join MI:13 and his first action was to shove a stake in Spitfire, leading to one cool fight - and there was a massive supernatural evil, Captain Britain fighting Mindless Ones, and Captain Midlands just being.
Corrina
12-06-2008, 04:56 PM
Every time I see that there's now a color spectrum of Lanterns, I think of that General villain in an old Superman Family story--his problem was that he loved the color mauve.
So I want to know where are all the mauve lanterns, huh? :)
I find prime impossible to take SBP seriously. I think he and ASB&R Batman ought to have a bad dialogue fest and fans should vote and see who wins. I'm thinking Prime because he's got the dumb evil laugh, though the monologue during the Black Canary sex scene in the rain might just bring Bats teh win.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 05:00 PM
Every time I see that there's now a color spectrum of Lanterns, I think of that General villain in an old Superman Family story--his problem was that he loved the color mauve.
So I want to know where are all the mauve lanterns, huh? :)
I find prime impossible to take SBP seriously. I think he and ASB&R Batman ought to have a bad dialogue fest and fans should vote and see who wins. I'm thinking Prime because he's got the dumb evil laugh, though the monologue during the Black Canary sex scene in the rain might just bring Bats teh win.
The laugh? Do your comics have sound effects? you lucky git!
Red Jack
12-06-2008, 05:02 PM
Ugh, the posts about Prime and Super-Skrull are making me hate BOTH events.
Someone talk about something COOL that happened, please!
In order to ferret out the Skrulls hiding on an extra-dimensional space platform Drax the Destroyer killed everyone on board, including himself.
Karl O'Neill
12-06-2008, 05:08 PM
In order to ferret out the Skrulls hiding on an extra-dimensional space platform Drax the Destroyer killed everyone on board, including himself.
Now I have to admit, That's pretty awesome.
you see, comics can be fun when everybody gets to talk about stuff thry like as well.
here's one i love.
Hank henshaws role in the sinestro corps.
help build a new warworld and help take over earth and the Anti-Monitor will grant him one wish.
KILL HIM.
because he has lived for so long now and hates life and exsistence, but can't die. which is pretty messed up.
Darrell D.
12-06-2008, 06:05 PM
You are not very bright are you?
yes, he has no powers inside this cell, there his chest is just flesh then, and his finger nail just a finger nail.
basically, you could do that to youself without powers.
I have a feeling I'm being baited, but what the hell, I've nothing better to do, so....
A regular fingernail used with regular strength, would not, and I repeat, would not cause the massive wound in Emo-Boy's chest. I'm guessing it was a wound..it actually looks like someone squirted ketchup on his bare skin.
But I also know that it was meant to be some kind of kewl epilogue, just to show how edgy and dangerous EmoBoy Prime is. It just comes off as incredibly stupid.
Oh, no, trap sprung.
Corrina
12-06-2008, 06:08 PM
The laugh? Do your comics have sound effects? you lucky git!
Of course they do. Else we'd never know what Wolverine's claws sounded like.
:)
Aside, you used 'jerk' earlier in this thread, and now you just said "you're not very bright are you," to another poster.
As a moderator, I say welcome to YABS but, watch the insults, please.
You'll soon find out we save those for the political threads. :)
Pink Bat Maxine
12-06-2008, 06:10 PM
So I want to know where are all the mauve lanterns, huh? :)
Ambush Bug.
Really.
thebhamgunslinger
12-06-2008, 06:36 PM
You'll soon find out we save those for the political threads. :)
:biggrin: :biggrin:
stealthwise
12-06-2008, 08:05 PM
I have a feeling I'm being baited, but what the hell, I've nothing better to do, so....
A regular fingernail used with regular strength, would not, and I repeat, would not cause the massive wound in Emo-Boy's chest. I'm guessing it was a wound..it actually looks like someone squirted ketchup on his bare skin.
But I also know that it was meant to be some kind of kewl epilogue, just to show how edgy and dangerous EmoBoy Prime is. It just comes off as incredibly stupid.
Oh, no, trap sprung.
Yeah, that was really lame.
I'd like to see SPB die, mostly because of that lameness, and in an embarrassing fashion.
Have Deadman possess his body, and fly it at an uncontrollable speed towards a red sun. Either he'd lose his powers en route and suffocate in the vacuum of space, or he'd be incinerated instantly as he collided with it.
Karl O'Neill
12-07-2008, 04:15 AM
Of course they do. Else we'd never know what Wolverine's claws sounded like.
:)
Aside, you used 'jerk' earlier in this thread, and now you just said "you're not very bright are you," to another poster.
As a moderator, I say welcome to YABS but, watch the insults, please.
You'll soon find out we save those for the political threads. :)
where did i use jerk?
Lester C.
12-07-2008, 04:23 AM
Every time I see that there's now a color spectrum of Lanterns, I think of that General villain in an old Superman Family story--his problem was that he loved the color mauve.
So I want to know where are all the mauve lanterns, huh? :)
I find prime impossible to take SBP seriously. I think he and ASB&R Batman ought to have a bad dialogue fest and fans should vote and see who wins. I'm thinking Prime because he's got the dumb evil laugh, though the monologue during the Black Canary sex scene in the rain might just bring Bats teh win.
Batman had a sex scene with Black Canary.:eek: Where did this happen?
Karl O'Neill
12-07-2008, 04:29 AM
Batman had a sex scene with Black Canary.:eek: Where did this happen?
All Star Batman and Robin issue #8 or #9 , Im not 100% Sure.
it's sold out, The radio channels in ireland where complaining about it because some mother bought her son a copy of this issue in easons and it had sex, violence and nazi's in it!
so, As things happen, everybody rushed to forbidden planet(comic store in dublin) and bought the remaining issues.
Corrina
12-07-2008, 07:24 AM
Jerks!! I list the cool moments from the sinestro corps war all day long. as i have them saved in memory and PC.
There would be 'jerks.'
ETA: it's been pointed out that you might have been referring to something in the panel itself. So I retract that. Sorry.
JKCarrier
12-07-2008, 08:04 AM
Every time I see that there's now a color spectrum of Lanterns, I think of that General villain in an old Superman Family story--his problem was that he loved the color mauve.
Ha! I remember that guy. He was working for Superman's "long-lost brother", and there were all these mauve-uniformed stormtroopers marching around. Kinda low on the intimidation scale. :biggrin:
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u313/JKCarrier/Forum%20Stuff/ajlgl7b.jpg
(nice Garcia-Lopez cover, though)
Karl O'Neill
12-07-2008, 10:53 AM
There would be 'jerks.'
ETA: it's been pointed out that you might have been referring to something in the panel itself. So I retract that. Sorry.
No worries, I was just quoting what Prime said as he landed in New york, he says to the JSA *Jerks*!
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