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Superbeast
12-04-2008, 12:08 PM
With all the new colour Corps springing up, I was just thinking how well sorted the GL Corps actually are but how it's likely to be a plot device in the non too distant future. It just seems like a case of too many cooks in a way.

First you have your smurf like Guardians, who there are about 9 left of, (Ganthet and Sayd were expelled, another commited suicide to send SBP across the multiverse) of which the scarred female guardian seems to be the most outspoken and villainous lately. They basically run everything.

Next you have Sodam Yat as Ion I suppose, the Guardians' big gun with Superman level powers, the space whale symbiote and a power ring, but here's where the issue gets murky.

You have the Alpha Lanterns, part Manhunter, part humanoid, all programming, all cop. They can drain GL batteries, but can they drain other rings charges? They are second only to Ion in not needing to ever recharge their rings, they have a ring for each hand and internal power batteries. Apparently they can shoot beams out of their batteries that basically vaporise anything caught in the way, not too different from the Red Lantern's rage vomit.

Next up I guess are Kilowog and Salaak, basically the coach and principal of the GL Corps team.

Then we have the GL Honor Guard. What that actually means, I don't know, but it seems it's like where GLs with tenure willing to work offworld regularly get assigned to. They don't have any special abilities compared to the rest of the GL Corps whatsoever.

Then you have The Corpse, the black ops team of ruthless agents who have no rings but consume pills that allow them to create purple constructs for a short amount of time. Previously used for missions where lethal force would need to be used, now that lethal force has been approved by the Guardians, they are not really needed.

However, you have John Stewart, former Guardian and long time GL, who was nominated for Alpha Lantern status as a regular GL while Gardner and Rayner are Honor Guard Lanterns. If the HG are below the Alpha Lanterns, surely Stewart should have got the nod for a spot, right? Then you have Sodam Yat, one of the new recruits, being chosen as the top gun over Hal Jordan or Kyle because of his power set even though he has almost no experience.

Also, does Ion really supercede the Alpha Lanterns since he's possessed by the space whale thing? If say, Sodam Yat went after the scarred Guardian, would the Alpha Lanterns be obliged to defend her or help Ion, since he's basically the avatar for their entire cause? Who do the Corpse answer to now the Guardians are divided? Could the Alpha Lanterns actually deal with the Corpse or would they be unable to drain them since their pills work on a time lapse basis anyway?

Just some brainfarting on my part, feel free to put your two cents in as to how you see things working within the GL Corps.

Karl O'Neill
12-04-2008, 12:35 PM
I can't quite grasp what you are getting at?

Any sci fi concept as big of the Green Lantern Mythoes, like star wars, you will always have multiple members, all very different and unique.

Yoda?
Vader/Anakin
plo koon
Mace windu
Palpatine
Obi wan kenobi
on and on and one,

what;s important is, some lanterns might have the same powers, but some are smarter, quicker and better ringslingers,

Lets say, put Saarek, who can listen to the dead, and ring sling against hal jordan, who is going to win? Jordan, why? because he is the bees nees.

Superbeast
12-04-2008, 12:49 PM
I'm wondering what makes the Honor Guard Lanterns worthy of being Honor Guard Lanterns above regular GLs and why Stewart isn't one?

I'm wondering if the Corpse, who only answer to The Guardians, would be accountable to the Alpha Lanterns?

I'm wondering if the Alpha Lanterns could depower Ion upon a Guardian's request or would they side with Ion, since he is basically their willpower symbiote bonded to one of their potentially most powerful GLs?

I'm also wondering how much of an influence Ion has over Sodam Yat and if Sodam Yat, as the Ion host, could act as a true avatar for the space whale and kick a Guardian's ass, should that Guardian stop serving the cause?

I'm also wondering what the current and proper chain of command is.

Guardians at the top, no question.
But then is it the Corpse, the Alpha Lanterns or Sodam Yat?
Are the Alpha Lanterns and Honor Guard equal?

Karl O'Neill
12-04-2008, 01:00 PM
I'm wondering what makes the Honor Guard Lanterns worthy of being Honor Guard Lanterns above regular GLs and why Stewart isn't one?

I'm wondering if the Corpse, who only answer to The Guardians, would be accountable to the Alpha Lanterns?

I'm wondering if the Alpha Lanterns could depower Ion upon a Guardian's request or would they side with Ion, since he is basically their willpower symbiote bonded to one of their potentially most powerful GLs?

I'm also wondering how much of an influence Ion has over Sodam Yat and if Sodam Yat, as the Ion host, could act as a true avatar for the space whale and kick a Guardian's ass, should that Guardian stop serving the cause?

I'm also wondering what the current and proper chain of command is.

Guardians at the top, no question.
But then is it the Corpse, the Alpha Lanterns or Sodam Yat?
Are the Alpha Lanterns and Honor Guard equal?

Kyle and Guy gardner have been paying their dues years now, Like John, I guess Johns has other plans for John stewert and Kurt busiek has a huge subplot story happing in Trinity regarding John stewert.

Kyle and Guy are simply great heroes and deserve that status, Think of them like me, General's.

They lead and make decisions, just because Isamot(Tomasi's name backwards really) and vath sarn have power rings, they don;t have the experience the earth based lanterns have.

Superbeast
12-04-2008, 01:11 PM
Kyle and Guy gardner have been paying their dues years now, Like John, I guess Johns has other plans for John stewert and Kurt busiek has a huge subplot story happing in Trinity regarding John stewert.

Kyle and Guy are simply great heroes and deserve that status, Think of them like me, General's.

They lead and make decisions, just because Isamot(Tomasi's name backwards really) and vath sarn have power rings, they don;t have the experience the earth based lanterns have.

Well, using the police structure of things, I'm seeing it like this:
Guardians, Government.
Corpse, SWAT team.
Alpha Lanterns, Internal Affairs.
Salaak, Head of Admin.
Kilowog, Head Instructor.
Honor Guard, Deputies.
Sodam Yat, Sheriff.
Regular GLs, detective constables.

But how accurate is that really?

Mat001
12-04-2008, 11:22 PM
Guy Gardner is part of the honor guard because he attempted to stop Hal Jordan when he was Parallax and for the fact that he's such a gray figure, that he earned that spot. Kyle Rayner has it because of what he did for years as the last Green Lantern, as Ion, for rebuilding the Corps and helping Hal Jordan out. John Stweart should be up there, but it might be that he hasn't reached that moment yet. That moment when he has earned that right.

FunkyGreenJerusalem
12-04-2008, 11:38 PM
I'm also wondering what the current and proper chain of command is.

Guardians at the top, no question.
But then is it the Corpse, the Alpha Lanterns or Sodam Yat?
Are the Alpha Lanterns and Honor Guard equal?

I think you're making a mistake that it's top to bottom.
If you look at army or corporation chain of commands, after the top, they go off to the sides as well.

The Corpse are probably lower than you've put them, but off to the sides.
They are like a special ops or wet works team - that's who you send in when it's going to get really ugly and really messy - these guys aren't going to stop to save an innocent in the way.
And if caught, knowledge of them would be denied.

Also, is Honor Guard an actual rank, or more just a title bestowed on a Lantern who has proven himself time and time again?
A reward of sorts, an acknowledgment that this guy's got what it takes, and then some.

Captain Smith
12-05-2008, 10:24 AM
IMHO, the mythos went to Hell with the intro of Ion, the space whale and the Yellow cootie - Parallax.

I much preferred the highly developed Oans powering the batteries with their will.

The Guardians have been Team Stupid for a long time now. Billions of years old, Hal comes along and they fall apart.

SeritoNiN
12-05-2008, 11:32 AM
It's all building toward the war of light. :wink:

AdamYJ
12-05-2008, 12:37 PM
I think they have too many humans.

Ontir
12-05-2008, 12:52 PM
At this point, it needs to end with one of each colour, no more!

Captain Morgan
12-31-2008, 01:43 AM
To pick out one part of your question- The Guaridans gave Yat Ion because of the prophecy from the Alan Moore story. Yat is going to become the greatest Green Lantern of all time.

Personally, I think it's good an alien gets the rank. I've always kind of felt it was silly humanity keeps pumping out the best GLs- surely there must be a species out there whose minds have simply evolved unparralled will capacities.