X-infernus #1

[Mikl C]

Colossus is pissed because Cyke and emma don't give a crap Illyana is stuck in Limbo, and he says Scott may not care about the fate of his kin (lol!) but he does.

In Limbo demon-Illyana is having a BRAWL with some demons, trying to find her soulsword and bloodstone amulet. It isn't there though. She is PISSED!

Pixie (ugh) and nightcrawler have a teleporting competition and Pixie (ugh) wins. nightcrawler asks her about her soul dagger and she gets all teary and proceeds to STAB HIM IN THE CHEST with it.

Now for the cool part. dormammu, Hela, Mephisto, Blackheart and Satannish are at a council, where Belasco's daughter has summoned them. She tells them to back off from Limbo as it is hers, and reveals she has the bloodstone amulet.

Pixie (ugh) pretends she was taken over and didn't mean to stab Kurt. Beast tells her to pull it the hell out of his chest then. she does, and out pops the soulsword too! Continuity! woo!

Magik senses this from Limbo and teleports to the danger room to take it back!

I like this story.
3.75/5

[Twisted Bliss]

I can't wait to see the art for this!

Thank you for the recap Mikl

[Valeria Kementari]

It looks great, it has a very nice premise but some things don't make sense at all. For example, why is Dormammu with the Hell Lords if he rules the hell of another dimension? He's not in the "earth hells" pantheon. Also, where is Pluto? Why is he missing? And how come Satannish is alive if he had died and bequeathed his realm to his son, Daimon Hellstorm?? It doesn't really make sense...

[ExodusCloak]

The Greek Gods have abandoned the old ways...apart from Poseidon. Hades(Pluto) was seen with Hera in Incredible Hercules they met up in an executive building as opposed to a Dark Room.

I would have bought this issue just for pages 14, 15 and 16. The 13 page preview was unecessary.

[Arksy]

Art - Inconsistent and harsh, nothing what i'd like to call 'well styled' the art in this makes me want to throw up.

Story - Come again? Oh right, yeah, i suppose there is a story...not that i really care.....props to the writer!

Level of engagement - I had to TRY MY HARDEST to get through this comic, a medium of entertainment should not have to have the readers put this much effort into just staying with it.

I give this comic book a solid 1/10...Definitely not getting anything else tied into this series.

[Shyft]

the key factor for me here is; Was Nightcrawler ok after the soul dagger was pulled out? Or is he going to sit out the first half of this in a coma?

[Valeria Kementari]

The Greek Gods have abandoned the old ways...apart from Poseidon. Hades(Pluto) was seen with Hera in Incredible Hercules they met up in an executive building as opposed to a Dark Room.

I would have bought this issue just for pages 14, 15 and 16. The 13 page preview was unecessary.

I've seen Pluto plotting with Hera, but I doubt someone as devious as Pluto has just abandoned his entire realm

[jarrod]

Hela! <3 <3

[rwsmith]

Hmm...sounds a bit light on content to be sporting a $3.99 price tag. And the art doesn't really do anything for me either (except for the Finch covers). I'll probably pass.

[darknessatnoon]

Have we seen Belasco's daughter before?

[Eye in the Sky]

It looks great, it has a very nice premise but some things don't make sense at all. For example, why is Dormammu with the Hell Lords if he rules the hell of another dimension? He's not in the "earth hells" pantheon. Also, where is Pluto? Why is he missing? And how come Satannish is alive if he had died and bequeathed his realm to his son, Daimon Hellstorm?? It doesn't really make sense...

Who cares.

Sounds like I made the right choice, Illyana and Inferno bore me.

[Leirus]

This Belasco´s daughter is the same one once appeared in Alpha Flight?

You know, Witchfire from Betaflight

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/3/3a/Witchfire_001.jpg

[ExodusCloak]

Have we seen Belasco's daughter before?

Alpha Flight.

[Twisted Bliss]

This Belasco´s daughter is the same one once appeared in Alpha Flight?

You know, Witchfire from Betaflight

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/3/3a/Witchfire_001.jpg

holy crap.

Who in their right mind shagged Belasco that one armed, skirt wearing, young girl obsessed red skinned demon lord??

And more importantly will they admit to being the mother of Witchfire the übercalf muscled freak?

Illyana honey, it looks like you've got a Russian shot putter coveting your arse.

[.LuckyStar.]

It looks great, it has a very nice premise but some things don't make sense at all. For example, why is Dormammu with the Hell Lords if he rules the hell of another dimension? He's not in the "earth hells" pantheon. Also, where is Pluto? Why is he missing? And how come Satannish is alive if he had died and bequeathed his realm to his son, Daimon Hellstorm?? It doesn't really make sense...

Satannish was last seen in Captain Britain and Mi:13. He was freed along with other evil guys by Wisdom or something like that lol

[jarrod]

Illyana honey, it looks like you've got a Russian shot putter coveting your arse.
LOL. I doubt Illyana minds, she was closeted CC mutant lesbian #7.

[Dagger]

:frown: I'm really debating on buying this! It has Witchfire in it, but I'm sooo broke right now!

[Brett P]

So did Mercury do anything aside from peer in at Pixie and Kurt?

And there is officially a new Danger Room?

[Leirus]

:frown: I'm really debating on buying this! It has Witchfire in it, but I'm sooo broke right now!

Really? When I saw her I wondered if there were any find of whitchfire anywhere in the world, longing for her return... I think not many people even recognize her !

[Dagger]

Really? When I saw her I wondered if there were any find of whitchfire anywhere in the world, longing for her return... I think not many people even recognize her !
Yeah! I'm a huge fan of original AF! I have almost the entire series!

[Beast]

Someone needs to smack Pixie around. Stabbing poor Kurt. What a biotch!

[SayOcean]

holy crap.

Who in their right mind shagged Belasco that one armed, skirt wearing, young girl obsessed red skinned demon lord??

.
I would

red skin is hot

[AcesX1X]

I would

red skin is hot

so are horns and fangs. UGH, belasco! love, love, love, love, love

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/129705-68024-belasco.jpg

[Seres]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/120408xinfernusteaser.html

It's a riddle!

[Askani's Flame]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/120408xinfernusteaser.html

It's a riddle!

Oooooooh. That's pretty!!

[pryde15]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/120408xinfernusteaser.html

It's a riddle!

My babies!

[Dagger]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/120408xinfernusteaser.html

It's a riddle!
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!

[Mikl C]

WHO IS THAT TEAM and why are they familiar?

[jarrod]

New Mutants again!

[Anna]

Holy Shit!!!!

[worstblogever]

Have we seen Belasco's daughter before?

Uh huh.

This Belasco´s daughter is the same one once appeared in Alpha Flight?

You know, Witchfire from Betaflight

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/3/3a/Witchfire_001.jpg

The same. Her wiki, that makes me want to say, "u**", except that'd be gay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchfire_(Marvel_Comics)

holy crap.

Who in their right mind shagged Belasco that one armed, skirt wearing, young girl obsessed red skinned demon lord??

And more importantly will they admit to being the mother of Witchfire the übercalf muscled freak?


Well, considering we just had it revealed that Trauma from Avengers: The Initiative's mom boinked Nightmare, it seems the demon lords of the Marvel U. have been getting their freak on more than had been let on.

Throwing out the comics code makes that sort of topic less taboo the past few years.

Satannish was last seen in Captain Britain and Mi:13. He was freed along with other evil guys by Wisdom or something like that lol

You win a cigar. He did bust out, and hasn't turned up over in that comic just yet. CB&MI13 #4.

Seeing Hela again was nice. She hadn't turned up in Thor since that series relaunched, either. And Blackheart & Mephisto at the same table is a bit scary. They've put their differences aside, apparently. Dormammu chilling there isn't exactly shocking, given that the Hood might be his new chief servant on Earth.

But I'm happy that this series looks to tie in the mystical as much as the mutant world of Marvel.

[DeadXMan]

You what, Colossus is right.

Scott has left his borther to die out there along with his dauguter.

He is a bigger jerk then Chuck ever could be.

[jarrod]

You what, Colossus is right.

Scott has left his borther to die out there along with his dauguter.

He is a bigger jerk then Chuck ever could be.
To be fair, Chuck abandoned his brother and his son too. :biggrin:

[Omega Alpha]

You what, Colossus is right.

Scott has left his borther to die out there along with his dauguter.

He is a bigger jerk then Chuck ever could be.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened. You're 100% right:rolleyes:

[DeadXMan]

To be fair, Chuck abandoned his brother and his son too. :biggrin:

he had Caine Lock up in the basment.

He didn't leave him to Die in cold blackness of space.
plus this isn't the first time he left Alex for dead. How long did it take for him to get Alex from the cluches of Nurse Annie? Then mess with his mind the day before his wedding to leave Launa at the alter? You remeber how well she took that, right?

[pryde15]

he had Caine Lock up in the basment.

He didn't leave him to Die in cold blackness of space.
plus this isn't the first time he left Alex for dead. How long did it take for him to get Alex from the cluches of Nurse Annie? Then mess with his mind the day before his wedding to leave Launa at the alter? You remeber how well she took that, right?

I think your getting Superman & X-Men confused.

[darknessatnoon]

I think your getting Superman & X-Men confused.

I think he's just "confused" period.

[DeadXMan]

no this pertty much all of austain's run

Scott being a dick to his little brother.

[jarrod]

he had Caine Lock up in the basment.

He didn't leave him to Die in cold blackness of space.
plus this isn't the first time he left Alex for dead. How long did it take for him to get Alex from the cluches of Nurse Annie? Then mess with his mind the day before his wedding to leave Launa at the alter? You remeber how well she took that, right?
LOL. Letting comatose Alex get molested by his large nosed horny nurse WAS inexcusable. Pete should throw that in Scott's face.

Anyway, just pointing out that neither Scott nor Xaiver are really stand up family men. Now stop making me defend Cyclops, I feel dirty.

[AcesX1X]

no this pertty much all of austain's run

Scott being a dick to his little brother.

is this what compelled alex to 'water' iceman in that bamf dimension? was he lashing out at his brother via his good friend?

[DeadXMan]

is this what compelled alex to 'water' iceman in that bamf dimension? was he lashing out at his brother via his good friend?

no he like to give golden showers, that was just an excuss to do it in front of his team.:evilsmile: :tongue:

[Eye in the Sky]

no this pertty much all of austain's run

Scott being a dick to his little brother.

Because Alex is such a helpless little boy too. Get over it.

[jarrod]

Alex and Bobby make such a cute couple. Ass to ass!

[Brett P]

So Mercury? New Danger Room..?

UGH

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/120408xinfernusteaser.html

It's a riddle!

Hmm that silouhette (sp?) is from the cover of the final issue of Defillips and Weirs New Mutants run right?

I know this is completely expected from me but like I said...consistant...:

I guess? If this New Mutants team reunion is going to be a permanent thing...then this is what Guggenheim should have been saved for writing (it was the New Mutants that drew him to the project that became knows as Young X-Men) and New X-Men should have continued...especially as solicits hint to Guggs having jumped ship already...

UGH

Of course if it's only a temporary crossover team up (probably more likely?) then...fine, whatever.

[Jeremi]

Now for the cool part. dormammu, Hela, Mephisto, :eek: Blackheart:eek: and Satannish are at a council, where Belasco's daughter has summoned them. She tells them to back off from Limbo as it is hers, and reveals she has the bloodstone amulet.

Would it be too much to ask for a scan of Blackheart? :biggrin: Wait I thought Mephisto and him didn't get along, plus last seen dead and all?

[darknessatnoon]

I can't tell how any of you are getting "New Mutants" off that mess of a Wizard cover.

[darknessatnoon]

Would it be too much to ask for a scan of Blackheart? :biggrin: Wait I thought Mephisto and him didn't get along, plus last seen dead and all?

Mephisto tells him to shut it during the issue, so continuity was maintained.

[pryde15]

So Mercury? New Danger Room..?

UGH



Hmm that silouhette (sp?) is from the cover of the final issue of Defillips and Weirs New Mutants run right?

I know this is completely expected from me but like I said...consistant...:

I guess? If this New Mutants team reunion is going to be a permanent thing...then this is what Guggenheim should have been saved for writing (it was the New Mutants that drew him to the project that became knows as Young X-Men) and New X-Men should have continued...especially as solicits hint to Guggs having jumped ship already...

UGH

Of course if it's only a temporary crossover team up (probably more likely?) then...fine, whatever.

The New X-Men had no real reason to continue though, actually you should be fairly pleased with Guggenheim, since if it wasn't for him you wouldn't be getting Anole, Dust, or Rockslide on a monthly basis.

I'd rather see the New Mutants again, anyways. I liked New X-Men but they couldn't even hold a candle to the New Muties.

[Pach!]

So Mercury? New Danger Room..?

UGH



Hmm that silouhette (sp?) is from the cover of the final issue of Defillips and Weirs New Mutants run right?

I know this is completely expected from me but like I said...consistant...:

Image (?) If this New Mutants team reunion is going to be a permanent thing...then this is what Guggenheim should have been saved for writing (it was the New Mutants that drew him to the project that became knows as Young X-Men) and New X-Men should have continued...especially as solicits hint to Guggs having jumped ship already...

UGH

Of course if it's only a temporary crossover team up (probably more likely?) then...fine, whatever.
I can't remember what your mercury question was but assuming its what she does this issue is just be nervous because pixie stabbed nightcrawler. Rockslide and Mercury run into the danger room the next page.

re: the danger room, they probably built one as soon as they got to San Francisco.

And Guggs hasnt jumped ship yet. Skottie has stated he's writing young x-men for 2 issues only.

[DeadXMan]

Because Alex is such a helpless little boy too. Get over it.

Alex handles himself fairly well when he not trying to be like Scott.

[Brett P]

I can't tell how any of you are getting "New Mutants" off that mess of a Wizard cover.

Because it's them blacked out and the caption says "a team reunited"..?

But then we'd already been told they'll all be appearing here so it's just as likely it's a "within the pages of X-Infernus" deal only

[Jeremi]

Mephisto tells him to shut it during the issue, so continuity was maintained.

Sounds good. :biggrin: I should pick this up for the Blackheart and Witchfire sighting alone.

[Brett P]

The New X-Men had no real reason to continue though, actually you should be fairly pleased with Guggenheim, since if it wasn't for him you wouldn't be getting Anole, Dust, or Rockslide on a monthly basis.

I could counter with "he could have used New X-Men characters instead of making THREE new ones"...but let's not taint the thread with this old dance! I'll just say I don't particularly care for what he's doing with Anole and Rockslide. Their mojo worked much better as part of the larger whole, rather than the focus. Dust has been pretty cool I guess...

I'd rather see the New Mutants again, anyways. I liked New X-Men but they couldn't even hold a candle to the New Muties.

I guess my point was, there should have been two seperate titles for the ex-new mutants and the new x-men characters...not the bizarre melding going on in Young.

I can't remember what your mercury question was but assuming its what she does this issue is just be nervous because pixie stabbed nightcrawler. Rockslide and Mercury run into the danger room the next page.

re: the danger room, they probably built one as soon as they got to San Francisco.

And Guggs hasnt jumped ship yet. Skottie has stated he's writing young x-men for 2 issues only.

Thanks for the info Pach! :biggrin:

[Twisted Bliss]

So I see what looks like rahne, obviously Amara in the top left, top right is Sam. mid right I guess is Roberto Then the one on the bottom right looks like goat-legged Illyana. That leaves Dani on the bottom left.

Interesting to figure where they fit this in continuity wise what with Rahne's recent experiences over in X-force. Right now I'm wonder what ability Dani will come away from this event with.

[pryde15]

So I see what looks like rahne, obviously Amara in the top left, top right is Sam. mid right I guess is Roberto Then the one on the bottom right looks like goat-legged Illyana. That leaves Dani on the bottom left.

Interesting to figure where they fit this in continuity wise what with Rahne's recent experiences over in X-force. Right now I'm wonder what ability Dani will come away from this event with.


http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/0/0d/New_Mutants_Vol_2_13.jpg/300px-New_Mutants_Vol_2_13.jpg

[Eye in the Sky]

That team had better be Hellion, Mercury, Surge, Loa, Trance and David or I'm gonna burn Marvel to the mother F'ing ground.

[Twisted Bliss]

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/0/0d/New_Mutants_Vol_2_13.jpg/300px-New_Mutants_Vol_2_13.jpg

Cheers P.

I would have been obsessing about that. Good I really want Illyana back without the goat-legged look.

[maschine9]

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/120408xinfernusteaser.html

It's a riddle!

I am in complete disbelief and wicked excited.

[drwho]

I tend to like Cebulski's writing, but this read amateur at best. I mean Beast seems so out of it on the last page saying Oh my stars and whatever when Magik shows up. Pixie is a little too whiny for me. Also just what we need a lame daughter of Belasco. I dont see anything unique, or new about this mini series. The only draw is Magik showing up because the art isnt that great nor is the writing.

[Leirus]

This. better. be. true.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8199/teaserjj9.png


http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1693/nmzv2.png



That is all I have to say

[yanapryde]

how does one go about using the spoiler tags again?
I always forget and then people find out stuff they didn't want to.
I'd like to be able to discuss the issue as well...
help me out?

[Dagger]

how does one go about using the spoiler tags again?
I always forget and then people find out stuff they didn't want to.
I'd like to be able to discuss the issue as well...
help me out?

You put the words spoil in tags like this [spoil] and then write what you want to say inbetween them. [/spoil

[yanapryde]

You put the words spoil in tags like this [spoil] and then write what you want to say inbetween them. [/spoil

Good ol' Dagger. Always there when I need you.
Or, rather, at least when it comes to CBR and Illyana. Thanks much!

As for the issue, I thoroughly enjoyed it, but admittedly I'm entirely biased.
If its got Illyana in it, I'm buying it. She could be in just one page and I'm still buying it. A character talks about her, and I'm buying it. Its THAT sad people.

I'm so pleased that Cebulski addressed that Illyana would need MORE than JUST her soul sword, in order to restore her humanity. She'd also need her bloodstone medallion (How the junk did the evil red head get it, I wanna know) I'm glad to see that Illyana KEPT the medallion that houses that sliver of Pixie's soul and I'm guessing, hoping really, that she'll be restoring Pixie at the end of the story

[yanapryde]

I swear, everytime I post something in one of these forums, there is a 30minute to an hour waiting period before someone ELSE posts something.
I think I'm jinxed. I get all excited about posting something and then...nothing.
Where is MullhollandDriver when I need him?

[Mikl C]

I agree that at the end she should restore Pixie. and then maybe also kill her.

[yanapryde]

I agree that at the end she should restore Pixie. and then maybe also kill her.

If Illyana's soul is restored, she wouldn't kill Pixie.
If Pixie died? meh.
But I'd rather there be some kind of "Save Pixie from what Illyana went through by fixing what was done....and now she's back to Ms.Bug-Wings-makes-you-see-stuff-that-ain't-there" preferably.

Definitely SANS-soul-sticker.

[Mikl C]

I just want Pixie off the main team ASAP. She is GRATING.

[pryde15]

I just want Pixie off the main team ASAP. She is GRATING.

She should be replaced with Magma.

[Dagger]

I love Pixie! At least C&C Pixie! Fraction's Pix is lame-o!

[Eye in the Sky]

I could counter with "he could have used New X-Men characters instead of making THREE new ones"...but let's not taint the thread with this old dance! I'll just say I don't particularly care for what he's doing with Anole and Rockslide. Their mojo worked much better as part of the larger whole, rather than the focus. Dust has been pretty cool I guess...


And Defip/Weir could have used the New Mutants when making a New Mutants title, but then you wouldn't have characters to complain about these days now would you? Every new character is eventually somebody's favorite. Give it a rest.

[jarrod]

It is decided... Pixie must join X-Force, it's the only way...

[jarrod]

If its got Illyana in it, I'm buying it. She could be in just one page and I'm still buying it. A character talks about her, and I'm buying it. Its THAT sad people.
LOL. As a Rachel Summers fan, I can totally empathize.

I am now buying X-Men Noir mostly because in the story Rachel is a fictional character in a book. Srsly. I need help.

[Swashbuckler]

So, I read it, I liked it. I hated that Nightcrawler was already knocked out. LAME. I hate that Santo is going to be part of it because I hate the character. This new chick, Witchfire, really made me double take. I had never heard of her, so I looked up her bio on comicvine. OMG, for a charactr with only 18 appearances she sure does have a confusing history.

[Omega Alpha]

New Mutants together again? Meh, cheap 80's nostalgia trick.

[jarrod]

cheap 80's nostalgia trick.
LOL. That's like the main reason I read comics.

[Optic Rage!]

This turned out to be pretty shit, which is a shame as i liked the art.

The whole Colossus scene was really poor and Pete came off looking like a complete and utter brainless moron.

Scott lists off the way's he is trying to find he sister so Pete decides to smash his desk and scream and act like a 9 year old? Yeah, pretty much says everything about Colossus as a character don't it.

I suppose, considering it is Colossus it's probarly the best and only idea he could come up with.

And why are people hating on Pixie? is it because she's geting plenty of screentime while their favorite loser characters get none? thats lame.

[Mikl C]

And why are people hating on Pixie? is it because she's geting plenty of screentime while their favorite loser characters get none? thats lame.

Or MAYBE it's because she's become genuinely annoying? I liked her in new xmen and I don't here. It has nothing to do with my "loser characters" not getting screentime.

[Optic Rage!]

Or MAYBE it's because she's become genuinely annoying? I liked her in new xmen and I don't here. It has nothing to do with my "loser characters" not getting screentime.

Eh, maybe not you but others have.

I have seen plenty of people complaining about how it's unfair how much screen time Pixie has been getting while others such as i dunno..Rachel...get none.

[Prodigy55]

I don't mind that she gets more spotlight, I always liked her. But she looks too old now.

[yanapryde]

This turned out to be pretty shit, which is a shame as i liked the art.

The whole Colossus seen was really poor and Pete came off looking like a complete and utter brainless moron.

Scott lists off the way's he is trying to find he sister so Pete decides to smash his desk and scream and act like a 9 year old? Yeah, pretty much says everything about Colossus as a character don't it.

I suppose, considering it is Colossus it's probarly the best and only idea he could come up with.

And why are people hating on Pixie? is it because she's geting plenty of screentime while their favorite loser characters get none? thats lame.

First, let me say, GREAT avatar. I've never seen that image of Cyke before. Where is it from? Did YOU make it?

Second, I loved it.
Colossus flipped out. It was bound to happen. His sister died, then HE died, then he came back and his sister followed suit (allbeit in a different form) then his girlfriend died (presumably)...he's been a bomb with a short fuse for a while.
ya, he was out of line, I THINK, with Cyke. But who else is he gonna take it out on? Cyke is the only person in a position of power that COULD help him so he's naturally gonna lash out at him.

As far as the Pixie bashing goes, I'm thinking that its an "either or" situation, dealing with favoritism.
Pixie vs. Illyana.
Who is the favored teleporting soul blade wielder?
Illyana. Hands down.

[Darkchylde]

My feelings about this issue are mixed. On the one had, I'm glad Illyana/Magik/Darkchilde is making her return to the Marvel Universe (and here's hoping it's a permanent one). Like Yanapryde, I will read/buy just about any book that has even a mention of Illyana. Hell, I bought New X-Men: The Quest for Magik last year (or was that two years ago) after only seeing the preview solicitation with Amanda Sefton and Belasco on the cover, because I'd held out hope that somehow it connected to Illyana Rasputin. I also bought the X-Men Unlimited story from a few years back with Colossus recalling a conversation he'd had with Illyana right after the Morlock Massacre. And that story was maybe 8 pages long.

Pathetic, I know.

Having said that, this first issue felt a little... rushed? Maybe it's because the story is four parts and not six, and so the set-up was done quickly as to get the action moving in the next issue. I'm hoping that's the case. Or maybe it's because I'd already read the 13-page preview last week and consequently only had just 6 or so more pages to read. Whatever the case, I'm not going to bail on this series. Other posters have commented that it was good, bad, so on and so forth; however, I'm willing to give it a shot since it revolves around Illyana.

I also think C.B. Cebulski has introduced some interesting plot points: the return of the obscure Witchfire (seriously, who's thought about her at all since the mid-'90's?) and her ties to Belasco; Illyana's Bloodstone Medallion, which hasn't been seen since the climax of "Inferno" (I often wondered what became of it); and the re-emergence of that pesky Soulsword, which Amanda Sefton stuffed inside Nightcrawler at the end of his eponymous series. It's good to see that little tidbit being addressed again.

I have faith the next few issues will get things rolling, that Illyana will be restored to the Marvel Universe proper (that is, if this isn't yet ANOTHER red herring... !!!), and that a good character-driven story will be told along the way.

[yanapryde]

My feelings about this issue are mixed. On the one had, I'm glad Illyana/Magik/Darkchilde is making her return to the Marvel Universe (and here's hoping it's a permanent one). Like Yanapryde, I will read/buy just about any book that has even a mention of Illyana. Hell, I bought New X-Men: The Quest for Magik last year (or was that two years ago) after only seeing the preview solicitation with Amanda Sefton and Belasco on the cover, because I'd held out hope that somehow it connected to Illyana Rasputin. I also bought the X-Men Unlimited story from a few years back with Colossus recalling a conversation he'd had with Illyana right after the Morlock Massacre. And that story was maybe 8 pages long.

Pathetic, I know.

Having said that, this first issue felt a little... rushed? Maybe it's because the story is four parts and not six, and so the set-up was done quickly as to get the action moving in the next issue. I'm hoping that's the case. Or maybe it's because I'd already read the 13-page preview last week and consequently only had just 6 or so more pages to read. Whatever the case, I'm not going to bail on this series. Other posters have commented that it was good, bad, so on and so forth; however, I'm willing to give it a shot since it revolves around Illyana.

I also think C.B. Cebulski has introduced some interesting plot points: the return of the obscure Witchfire (seriously, who's thought about her at all since the mid-'90's?) and her ties to Belasco; Illyana's Bloodstone Medallion, which hasn't been seen since the climax of "Inferno" (I often wondered what became of it); and the re-emergence of that pesky Soulsword, which Amanda Sefton stuffed inside Nightcrawler at the end of his eponymous series. It's good to see that little tidbit being addressed again.

I have faith the next few issues will get things rolling, that Illyana will be restored to the Marvel Universe proper (if this is yet ANOTHER red herring... !!!), and that a good character-driven story will be told along the way.

Oh well said Darkchylde. Well said indeed.

[Darkchylde]

First, let me say, GREAT avatar. I've never seen that image of Cyke before. Where is it from? Did YOU make it?

Second, I loved it.
Colossus flipped out. It was bound to happen. His sister died, then HE died, then he came back and his sister followed suit (allbeit in a different form) then his girlfriend died (presumably)...he's been a bomb with a short fuse for a while.
ya, he was out of line, I THINK, with Cyke. But who else is he gonna take it out on? Cyke is the only person in a position of power that COULD help him so he's naturally gonna lash out at him.

As far as the Pixie bashing goes, I'm thinking that its an "either or" situation, dealing with favoritism.
Pixie vs. Illyana.
Who is the favored teleporting soul blade wielder?
Illyana. Hands down.


Blah! No contest between the Soulsword and Pixie's soul dagger. The Soulsword was/is a highly coveted mystical artifact created from Illyana's soul. Pixie's dagger... makes her eyes turn black. And stab a lot.

Although I have to admit, I did like the shot of Pixie holding both her dagger and the Soulsword. Kinda cool visual, that.

And I'm surprised at Kurt for assuming that Pixie would have to teleport multiple times like he does to reach a destination. Her teleportation is a result of magic, not mutant ability. Really, I suppose all Pixie needs to do is concentrate, recite the incantation, and - poof! - she's there. Her "gift" is nothing more than a spell imparted to her by Darkchilde; one simple mindwipe from Emma Frost and she'd lose that ability.

Here's hoping Illyana gets her soul and Soulsword back after story's end.

[Optic Rage!]

First, let me say, GREAT avatar. I've never seen that image of Cyke before. Where is it from? Did YOU make it?

Second, I loved it.
Colossus flipped out. It was bound to happen. His sister died, then HE died, then he came back and his sister followed suit (allbeit in a different form) then his girlfriend died (presumably)...he's been a bomb with a short fuse for a while.
ya, he was out of line, I THINK, with Cyke. But who else is he gonna take it out on? Cyke is the only person in a position of power that COULD help him so he's naturally gonna lash out at him.

As far as the Pixie bashing goes, I'm thinking that its an "either or" situation, dealing with favoritism.
Pixie vs. Illyana.
Who is the favored teleporting soul blade wielder?
Illyana. Hands down.

Haha, thanks.

I found the image on Deviant Art, I'll show you the full image.

http://th07.deviantart.com/fs19/300W/f/2007/299/1/7/Scott_Summers_by_dronio.jpg

And, i can understand why Pete would feel so frustrated, but Scott WAS trying to help, and to bring up Alex and Rachel was a low blow and somewhat ungrateful.

Considering that Scott never wanted Alex & Rachel to go in the first place, it was Xavier who wanted them to go.

Not to mention the fact it was Alex's choice to stay in space, and he cut ties with the X-Men and told them not to come.

I mean, what exactly is Scott supposed to do? Open a portal to limbo himself?

[Prodigy55]

Yeah, Peter was acting like a baby. Especially when he smashed the table and was like "I WILL NOT BE DENIED". Sheesh!

[yanapryde]

Haha, thanks.

I found the image on Deviant Art, I'll show you the full image.

http://th07.deviantart.com/fs19/300W/f/2007/299/1/7/Scott_Summers_by_dronio.jpg

And, i can understand why Pete would feel so frustrated, but Scott WAS trying to help, and to bring up Alex and Rachel was a low blow and somewhat ungrateful.

Considering that Scott never wanted Alex & Rachel to go in the first place, it was Xavier who wanted them to go.

Not to mention the fact it was Alex's choice to stay in space, and he cut ties with the X-Men and told them not to come.

I mean, what exactly is Scott supposed to do? Open a portal to limbo himself?

right.
its irrational.
Like I said, he's lost it. He's been walking a thin rope for a while in the anger dept. so he took it out on Scott.
I'm curious to see how this "away team" that is shown on the next cover will be joining Ms.Rasputin on her quest for her soul pieces.
Is Pete gonna show up and then she just teleports everyone away? Or is there going to be some kind 'dust settling' of sorts and Cyclops will delegate a team to go with her?
I'm guessing its going to be very fly by the seat of your pants rather than plan plan plan. I don't see Beast and company necessarily just handing over the sword to Illyana in issue 2 either. I'm thinking she may just flat out attack them and maybe Peter will be the one to show up and shock some sense into her.

[Darkchylde]

right.
its irrational.
Like I said, he's lost it. He's been walking a thin rope for a while in the anger dept. so he took it out on Scott.
I'm curious to see how this "away team" that is shown on the next cover will be joining Ms.Rasputin on her quest for her soul pieces.
Is Pete gonna show up and then she just teleports everyone away? Or is there going to be some kind 'dust settling' of sorts and Cyclops will delegate a team to go with her?
I'm guessing its going to be very fly by the seat of your pants rather than plan plan plan. I don't see Beast and company necessarily just handing over the sword to Illyana in issue 2 either. I'm thinking she may just flat out attack them and maybe Peter will be the one to show up and shock some sense into her.

I agree; I think everyone will see the Goatchilde, hooves and all, and protect Pixie and the Soulsword. As for how they sojourn to Limbo, isn't Amanda Sefton supposed to be putting in an appearance soon?

[MuhollandDriver]

*laughs*

i am here, yanapryde :)

i wish i hadn't read the 13 page spoiler...it only left six!

Anyway...so far so good. Pixie is back to acting like a daffy teenager...which is good. Cebulski has most of their voices down. A pleasant surprise was the council of dark sorcerous beings! Good seeing Hel again...she was a cool New Mutant's villain.

i personally love the art. It has quite a unique feel to it.

The reunion rocks :) My question for X-Position is answered!

i miss Warlock :).

[DeadXMan]

Yeah, Peter was acting like a baby. Especially when he smashed the table and was like "I WILL NOT BE DENIED". Sheesh!

think about it
He lost his entire extended family
His Brother is now the host to Grigori Rasputin
Kitty is lost to the cosmos until Ray saves her butt

now he finds his sister is back from the dead, killed bythe vary disease he sacrificed his life to eradicate and is trapped in limbo again

he lost her once to the darkness he won't let it happen again.

[Prodigy55]

think about it
He lost his entire extended family
His Brother is now the host to Grigori Rasputin
Kitty is lost to the cosmos until Ray saves her butt

now he finds his sister is back from the dead, killed bythe vary disease he sacrificed his life to eradicate and is trapped in limbo again

he lost her once to the darkness he won't let it happen again.

Yeah, but who is denying him anything? Cyclops has been doing 100 times more effort into finding Illyana than he has. And it was really annoying when he said that it's what he expected from someone who left his family to die in space. It's not like it was Scott's choice.
I understand that he's angry and has lost everything, but suck it up and look forward. Smashing tables and being mean is not going to get your sister back.

[DeadXMan]

if my brother and daughter were in the fight of life against my other brother who killed my father, Not a damn thing in the universe would stop me from being at their side. but what has Scott done? had some jungle fun in savage land and lived off San Fransico's Tax payers money.

The scott I know would of busted in the baxter building Hot wired a skrull ship and unleash all his fustrations on Vulcan

[Anna]

Blah! No contest between the Soulsword and Pixie's soul dagger. The Soulsword was/is a highly coveted mystical artifact created from Illyana's soul. Pixie's dagger... makes her eyes turn black. And stab a lot.



It also got rid of her freckles and those pink spots on her cheeks.

if my brother and daughter were in the fight of life against my other brother who killed my father, Not a damn thing in the universe would stop me from being at their side. but what has Scott done? had some jungle fun in savage land and lived off San Fransico's Tax payers money.

The scott I know would of busted in the baxter building Hot wired a skrull ship and unleash all his fustrations on Vulcan


He also spent a good deal of time blaming Charlie.

[Lukecage]

if my brother and daughter were in the fight of life against my other brother who killed my father, Not a damn thing in the universe would stop me from being at their side. but what has Scott done? had some jungle fun in savage land and lived off San Fransico's Tax payers money.

The scott I know would of busted in the baxter building Hot wired a skrull ship and unleash all his fustrations on Vulcan

Or realize that he has a whole extended mutant family to protect on Earth as well. And they happened to be under seige the entire time they were away playing Space Pirates. He's been a little busy with Messiah, Secret Invasion, moving the X-Men, and rebuilding. Yeah, he's really been sitting on his ass.

[k.i.n.g.]

I think the issue could have used some work...especially given that it's been planned for some time now. I mostly felt like I knew where the issue was going or what a character was going to say before the event occurred (and not in a daydreamy Blindfold way, but more lucid).

An Illyana comeback carries some gravitas with it since it's been an "event" in the making for well over a decade (or two). For X-Infernus no.1 Some of the scene segues, character actions and dialogue came with their own wedge of individual wrapped cheese.

http://i38.tinypic.com/125ov80.jpg
(mmm...nummy cheese product)

Overall, I liked it. I did not love it, but I will be back for issues 2 and more.

[podmark]

I liked it. Story was decent and I liked the art. Seeing all the demon lords was a high point. Glad they didn't make a bunch of new ones up.

I like that we're seeing all these continuity points addressed. Illyana, Alex and co, Kurt and the soul sword. It's nice to see Mercury again.

A New Mutants reunion will be fun.

[The Black Guardian]

Or realize that he has a whole extended mutant family to protect on Earth as well. And they happened to be under seige the entire time they were away playing Space Pirates. He's been a little busy with Messiah, Secret Invasion, moving the X-Men, and rebuilding. Yeah, he's really been sitting on his ass.
His being around wasn't required for any of those things. Heck, things might have even turned out better, both on Earth and in Shi'ar space.

[DeadXMan]

His being around wasn't required for any of those things.

storm coul of easily taken his place all of that.

[DaUltimateSheild]

Here's hoping Illyana gets her soul and Soulsword back after story's end.

no cause then we lose the hotness that is her demonic form:biggrin:

Keep her evil and put her on X-force is what i say :cool:

[CMBMOOL]

How can the New Mutants be even reunited in the first place when everytime they do it often temporary. :frown:

[ClanAskani]

I really liked this. The art and writing both were great.

CB really writes all the characters well. This is the first time I've felt it was the same Pixie from New X-Men. And the kids and Hank's interaction seemed straight out of New X-Men. If Guggenheim is leaving Young X-Men, CB needs to take over that book.

I loved the scene with Scott and Peter too. I'm glad someone finally called Scott on the way he's abandoning people.

[steve2275]

yana and the xmen vs big bad roundtable demons (btw anyone havea scan of them)?
coming soon

[Eye in the Sky]

I really liked this. The art and writing both were great.

CB really writes all the characters well. This is the first time I've felt it was the same Pixie from New X-Men. And the kids and Hank's interaction seemed straight out of New X-Men. If Guggenheim is leaving Young X-Men, CB needs to take over that book.

I loved the scene with Scott and Peter too. I'm glad someone finally called Scott on the way he's abandoning people.

How is Scott abandoning people again? He tried to help Peter access Limbo, it didn't work. He told Havok and Rachel not to go, Alex told him not to come for them, he cut off communications. What is Scott suppose to do, tie Alex and Rachel down? Put them in a room so they can't leave?

[The Black Guardian]

How is Scott abandoning people again? He tried to help Peter access Limbo, it didn't work.
Seems to me that's all he did, and then he washed his hands of it.
He told Havok and Rachel not to go,
That, in and of itself, is abandoning people. It was Scott's place to be in space at that time, along with the rest of his family. He blew it. Then he continues to bellyache like an emo highschooler about the brother Xavier made him forget. If Scott really gave a #@$%! he'd be trying to correct this by doing something about that brother.
Alex told him not to come for them, he cut off communications.
So? Why should Scott listen to that?

[Twisted Bliss]

I must say. I wasn't overly impressed with the fact Hank could touch the soul dagger.

I'm hoping that C B restores the 'soulsword only affects magickal people/items' and passes harmlessly through non-magickal people/stuff.

It keeps Illyana from becoming too powerful...oh wait that's one of the problems the writers have created with Tit-sie..I mean Pixie (sorry)

[Omega Alpha]

How is Scott abandoning people again? He tried to help Peter access Limbo, it didn't work. He told Havok and Rachel not to go, Alex told him not to come for them, he cut off communications. What is Scott suppose to do, tie Alex and Rachel down? Put them in a room so they can't leave?

Forget it, this is just another variation of "Scott is the biggest bastard EVER!" thing. If Cyke had gone, then every single one of those people would be whining that Scott has abandoned his friends and the entire mutantkind at the time they needed him the most for a personal vendetta.

[The Lucky One]

Still no explanation for how S'ym, N'astirh, and the other demons lost their techno-organic infection? Come on, it would require, like, one line of dialogue to clear up.

S'ym: "Th' boss didn't want us rebelling again, so she managed to cast a spell removing Limbo's t-o infection. Damn shame."

Bam! Done.

-D

[Jack Flash]

I really loved this issue! I totally dig Pixie. She's the new black! I am glad she's gettign some spotlight. My "Loser Characters" be damned.

As far as that goes, freaking Illyana back is the story of the century! Wah to the MFing Hoo!

How is Scott abandoning people again? He tried to help Peter access Limbo, it didn't work. He told Havok and Rachel not to go, Alex told him not to come for them, he cut off communications. What is Scott suppose to do, tie Alex and Rachel down? Put them in a room so they can't leave?

I think it's Scott's cold as ice demeanor that is frustrating my not quite balanced poet/warrior. Scott's always been the All American Goody Two Shoes that always has found a way. Now he's a cool and collected corporate shark that weighs his options and finally sees the grey. I am sure he could find a way into Limbo, but it's not his priority. He's focused on ALL Mutants, not on one. In the past he'd have dropped everything even if it hurt his long term goals. That Cyclops is no longer here. For me it's character development. But I can totally see why Pete would be pissed off about that. and I'd have smashed his desk too!

Can't get your sister, no way in. Can't get your one true love, no can opener. Can't be bothered to stand up and give you a hug, Gotta be cool as ice.

all equals *Smash* desk.

[Twisted Bliss]

I totally dig Pixie. She's the new black! I am glad she's getting some spotlight.

I hate you for that.


As far as that goes, freaking Illyana back is the story of the century! Wah to the MFing Hoo!

I LOVE you for that.

[Jack Flash]

I see the future and it includes a book called the "Odd Couple" and features Yana and Pixie Stix. One is super sweet and occassionally stabs folks. The other is a bitch on wheels with a soul full of broken glass and a heart of gold.

Top Ten! ZOMFG!

[frog]

Heavens, this thread overflows with hyperbole!

I used to enjoy Pixie but not so much anymore, and it has nothing to do with her being spotlighted and everything to do with what she has become. She's just another overpowered character who has lost her individuality and charm that originally made her appealing. I sincerely hope this series reverses what's been done to her.

As for Cyclops, I neither believe he is a complete jerk but he certainly isn't a paragon of virtue either. He's making some choices that are quite likely to end up biting him in his posterior, much the way Iron Man's recent decisions have come home to roost for Tony. That's fine, it makes the stories more interesting. If he was perfect he'd be an incredible bore to me, much as Pixie has become.

[Omega Alpha]

II am sure he could find a way into Limbo, but it's not his priority.


Explain how he could have found a way, does he has some secret knowledge of magic? Because otherwise Scott at any time in history would have done the same: tried to contact the people that understand about magic and see what they can do.

[Twisted Bliss]

Heavens, this thread overflows with hyperbole!

I used to enjoy Pixie but not so much anymore, and it has nothing to do with her being spotlighted and everything to do with what she has become. She's just another overpowered character who has lost her individuality and charm that originally made her appealing. I sincerely hope this series reverses what's been done to her.

As for Cyclops, I neither believe he is a complete jerk but he certainly isn't a paragon of virtue either. He's making some choices that are quite likely to end up biting him in his posterior, much the way Iron Man's recent decisions have come home to roost for Tony. That's fine, it makes the stories more interesting. If he was perfect he'd be an incredible bore to me, much as Pixie has become.

Keep you hands to yourself and GET YOUR EYES OF MY HYPERBOLE.

I like this opinion. It matches my 'middle ground' feeling for Pixie. Most of the time I just want her to die, but if not this would be my ideal solution for her.

[Jack Flash]

Explain me how he could have found a way. Does he has secret knowledge of magic? Because otherwise Scott at any time in history would have done the same: tried to contact the people that understand about magic and see what they can do.

ya know. Your smarmy snarky condescending tude is the pits. Maybe it's time for you to put a little love back into your posts?

That said, Scott would have hunted Doc Strange down to the ends of the Earth. He'd have tracked Margoli Szardzos across Europe and Back. He'd have found a way. The old Cyke that is. That was who he was. The guy who "Finds a way".

[Ogrebear]

No book should feature a New Mutants reunion without Cypher!

Bring back Doug*






*Someone had to remember!

[pryde15]

No book should feature a New Mutants reunion without Cypher!

Bring back Doug*






*Someone had to remember!


We are going to have a long and happy friendship. :smile:

[MartinRedmond]

Did they kill off Doug in Ultimate X too? He was one of my favorites until Louise killed him in her horrible New Mutants run.

[pryde15]

Did they kill off Doug in Ultimate X too? He was one of my favorites until Louise killed him in her horrible New Mutants run.

Her run started out nicely. But the fact that she wrote all of the interesting characters out of the series was unforgiveable. The issue where the Hellions & The New Mutants hunt for Bird Brain is one of my favorites.


I am fairly certain that Doug is alive in Ultimate X, but that won't matter much with the direction the Ultimate Series is taking.

[jarrod]

Eh, maybe not you but others have.

I have seen plenty of people complaining about how it's unfair how much screen time Pixie has been getting while others such as i dunno..Rachel...get none.
LOL. Nice try Cylops fan, but pretty much everyone hates Uncanny Pixie because she's borderline unrecognizable. Including us Rachel fans.

I'll give you the benifit of the doubt though, can you name just one poster who's complained about Pixie getting precedence over Rachel?

[Eye in the Sky]

Seems to me that's all he did, and then he washed his hands of it.

That's a pathetic reply. I don't know what else could have been done, he searched for Dr. Strange, no one can find him, Limbo was sealed, what more?

That, in and of itself, is abandoning people. It was Scott's place to be in space at that time, along with the rest of his family. He blew it. Then he continues to bellyache like an emo highschooler about the brother Xavier made him forget. If Scott really gave a #@$%! he'd be trying to correct this by doing something about that brother.

It was Scott's place to be in space, but Marvel didn't want Brubaker to use Scott, he was gonna be in Messiah Complex, so you got Alex.

So? Why should Scott listen to that?

Because he believes his brother to be capable of handling things?

Get over the hate, yours is irrational at best.

[Eye in the Sky]

Jed, this is also the same Scott Summers who when told by Mother Askani that he wouldn't ever see his child again believed her, he didn't attempt to go after Nathan.

[Cruelly_Innocent]

LOL. Nice try Cylops fan, but pretty much everyone hates Uncanny Pixie because she's borderline unrecognizable. Including us Rachel fans.

I'll give you the benifit of the doubt though, can you name just one poster who's complained about Pixie getting precedence over Rachel?

Exactly..Uncanny's Pixie speaks as I imagined the model that Greg Land used to "draw" her would... And of course she has a little bit of a wolverine touch...soon she'll be at the Dark Reign table


I like Rachel (I don't know if I became wildy unpopular (more so) when I typed that) ...but I think she went away (both figuratively and literally) waay before Pixie came into the picture

[jarrod]

It was Scott's place to be in space, but Marvel didn't want Brubaker to use Scott, he was gonna be in Messiah Complex, so you got Alex.
Yep. Bru's core cast was half stand-ins (Alex for Scott, Lorna for Storm, Warpath for Wolvie) and half prime picks (Xavier, Darwin, Kurt, Rachel).

[Mikl C]

prime pricks*

[jarrod]

prime pricks*
Rachel and Kurt are always prime picks*. ALWAYS.

[Optic Rage!]

if my brother and daughter were in the fight of life against my other brother who killed my father, Not a damn thing in the universe would stop me from being at their side. but what has Scott done? had some jungle fun in savage land and lived off San Fransico's Tax payers money.

The scott I know would of busted in the baxter building Hot wired a skrull ship and unleash all his fustrations on Vulcan

His being around wasn't required for any of those things. Heck, things might have even turned out better, both on Earth and in Shi'ar space.

You know, i don't mind talking about this sort of stuff when the opinion being presented is not completely irrational and unbelievably biased.

It really devalues the credibility of your arguments.

And what has Scott done while Alex has been in space? How about taking responsibility for all of mutant kind and it's future, moving the X-Men to San Francisco, dealing with a skrull invasion of San Francisco, not to mention dealing with the purifiers and the whole messiah complex situation.

Oh and not to forget everything that's going on in UXM & AXM right now.

It's pathetic really, If Scott went off to space to look for his family the exact same people would be bitching about how he abandoned the X-Men and mutant kind.

You know, kinda like they did about Storm?

No matter what, haters find a way to hate, they enjoy it to much.

[jarrod]

Honestly, I think Scott's decision to not go into space is understandable and justifiable... despite the Savage Land vacations and endless San Fran sidewalk strolls (LOL) he really HAS had his hands full here on Earth, and is pretty much loaded with responsibility now. Going into space would probably be the more selfish move now really.

At the same time, I don't think it's unfair to assume there's also some level of avoidance on Scott's part motivating that decision either. I doubt the "greater good" is the only thing keeping Scott from the nearest space shuttle, and it's easy to see how he might be rationalizing as an excuse here, even if it's legitimate. Personally, I think he prefers avoidance when it comes to family, just like Xaiver.

[ExodusCloak]

Gabriel will probably come near Earth anyway...Scott can deal with those skeletons when that happens.

[nikbackm]

There's also the "not wanting to go up against an interstellar empire that is for the first time in a long time firmly united and under his mad evil brother to boot" angle.

Of course Vulcan will move against Earth sooner or later when he gets a little extra time on his hands, but it might be better not to give him an an excuse to make a head-start and hope Black Bolt can take care of him before that. :tongue:

[Optic Rage!]

At the same time, I don't think it's unfair to assume there's also some level of avoidance on Scott's part motivating that decision either. I doubt the "greater good" is the only thing keeping Scott from the nearest space shuttle, and it's easy to see how he might be rationalizing as an excuse here, even if it's legitimate. Personally, I think he prefers avoidance when it comes to family, just like Xaiver.

While i think that is a fair point, it's more unfair that others claim he abandoned his brother in space because he just can't be arsed to go save him.

[jarrod]

While i think that is a fair point, it's more unfair that others claim he abandoned his brother in space because he just can't be arsed to go save him.
Oh sure, the abandoned thing is more a cheap shot. Actually, do the X-Men even know Alex and Lorna were captured?

[Seres]

Oh sure, the abandoned thing is more a cheap shot. Actually, do the X-Men even know Alex and Lorna were captured?

Hepzibah knows. But she does not care.

[jarrod]

Hepzibah knows. But she does not care.
How does Hep know?! I repeat, MI-13 should HUNT HER DOWN!

Tangent: have Brand and Hep ever run into each other? Could be be LOL...

[Seres]

How does Hep know?! I repeat, MI-13 should HUNT HER DOWN!

Tangent: have Brand and Hep ever run into each other? Could be be LOL...

I thought the Starjammers were psychically linked somehow? Although this could be something my mind has made up. MI-13 couldn't hunt her down, because they'd have to enter American soil to do so. And even though it's tempting, I don't think Britain would fancy an invasion at this point.

Stop trying to incite international warfare, Jarrod!

[MartinRedmond]

Jed, this is also the same Scott Summers who when told by Mother Askani that he wouldn't ever see his child again believed her, he didn't attempt to go after Nathan.

I remember, he didn't even cry a single tear either. 2 Pages later, the entire X-Factor crew was celebrating.

[jarrod]

I thought the Starjammers were psychically linked somehow? Although this could be something my mind has made up. MI-13 couldn't hunt her down, because they'd have to enter American soil to do so. And even though it's tempting, I don't think Britain would fancy an invasion at this point.

Stop trying to incite international warfare, Jarrod!
LOL. I thought San Francisco had claimed independence or something?

Anyway, you rudely avoided my Brand/Hep suggestion. I want to see a co-branded six issue mini, also co-starring Lockheed.

[Seres]

LOL. I thought San Francisco had claimed independence or something?

Anyway, you rudely avoided my Brand/Hep suggestion. I want to see a co-branded six issue mini, also co-starring Lockheed.

I avoided your suggestion with poise and dignity. However, I will now address said suggestion:

Will Warpath remain on Earth while this goes on, or will he be killed off in the first scene? I like your suggestion, but it can't be allowed to clash with the miniseries that Mike Choi is currently drawing even as we speak right now. The two will have to fit into the timeline seamlessly.

This thread has gone completely off-topic.

[Darkchylde]

I must say. I wasn't overly impressed with the fact Hank could touch the soul dagger.

I'm hoping that C B restores the 'soulsword only affects magickal people/items' and passes harmlessly through non-magickal people/stuff.

It keeps Illyana from becoming too powerful...oh wait that's one of the problems the writers have created with Tit-sie..I mean Pixie (sorry)

I'm still bummed that Pixie has a soul dagger to begin with, as I feel it takes away from the uniqueness of the Soulsword. It's not like every mystical practitioner can create such a weapon; Illyana manifested the Soulsword out of a desire for revenge against Belasco, yet subsequent writers (Scott Lobdell, Warren Ellis) have used the Soulsword as a plot device to further other stories that in my opinion had little connection to the original ("Prometheum armor"? "Soulsteel"? Blah!).

Okay, that was a tangent.

In any case, I would assume that Pixie's soul dagger has properties separate from the Soulsword, which would make sense given that the blade was carved from Pixie's soul, not Illyana's.

[The Lucky One]

Explain how he could have found a way, does he has some secret knowledge of magic? Because otherwise Scott at any time in history would have done the same: tried to contact the people that understand about magic and see what they can do.

Does he still have Arkon's thunderbolts? He used those to get the X-Men to Asgard once. Seems like he might be able to do the same with Limbo.

-D

[jarrod]

I avoided your suggestion with poise and dignity. However, I will now address said suggestion:

Will Warpath remain on Earth while this goes on, or will he be killed off in the first scene? I like your suggestion, but it can't be allowed to clash with the miniseries that Mike Choi is currently drawing even as we speak right now. The two will have to fit into the timeline seamlessly.

This thread has gone completely off-topic.
I spit on you with poise and dignity! *aroused*

Anyway, it would be the sequel to Choi's mini, co-plotted and scripted by Chris Yost. Warpath would be at the barber.

[Seres]

I spit on you with poise and dignity! *aroused*

Save your spit for the males of CBR, you ghoul.

Anyway, it would be the sequel to Choi's mini, co-plotted and scripted by Chris Yost. Warpath would be at the barber.

I'll have to refer this to The Council Of Hepzibah before any official statements can be made, regarding your proposal.

[jarrod]

Save your spit for the males of CBR, you ghoul.
But they already get my other fluids!


I'll have to refer this to The Council Of Hepzibah before any official statements can be made, regarding your proposal.
Is there a form I should fill out? I can sign for Misters Choi and Yost, they're my facebook friends.

[Seres]

Is there a form I should fill out? I can sign for Misters Choi and Yost, they're my facebook friends.

Head to the Hepzibah Appreciation Thread and submit your application there. Further details will be forthcoming.

[q.u.e.e.n.]

I have to say I wasn't that impressed. The art was nicer as it went on (Emma's look put me off at first) but the coloring was awful. I actually thought Pixie was well written here..much better then she is in Uncanny.

I'll keep reading though just because I have hope for a good oucome for Illyana.

[Leirus]

I'm still bummed that Pixie has a soul dagger to begin with, as I feel it takes away from the uniqueness of the Soulsword. It's not like every mystical practitioner can create such a weapon; Illyana manifested the Soulsword out of a desire for revenge against Belasco, yet subsequent writers (Scott Lobdell, Warren Ellis) have used the Soulsword as a plot device to further other stories that in my opinion had little connection to the original ("Prometheum armor"? "Soulsteel"? Blah!).

Okay, that was a tangent.

In any case, I would assume that Pixie's soul dagger has properties separate from the Soulsword, which would make sense given that the blade was carved from Pixie's soul, not Illyana's.


Now that you talk about the Soulsword...

The Soulswors is a highly coveted magicl artifact which coul disrupt or broke any magical creature or spell

The M day was caused by magic, and, as we saw on endangered species (those of us who remained wake enough, anyway) this magic is until tody mixed with the fabric of the reality keeping the M day effects there...

So...

Could not Illyana broke the spell on ech ex-mutant simply using her sword? I know it would be anti-climatic, but I can not see any mistake in mi logic...

[Teh m0nk3y]

Finally got my hands on this issue and I have to say that I loved every single page.
Pixie<3<3<3

[Darkchylde]

Now that you talk about the Soulsword...

The Soulswors is a highly coveted magicl artifact which coul disrupt or broke any magical creature or spell

The M day was caused by magic, and, as we saw on endangered species (those of us who remained wake enough, anyway) this magic is until tody mixed with the fabric of the reality keeping the M day effects there...

So...

Could not Illyana broke the spell on ech ex-mutant simply using her sword? I know it would be anti-climatic, but I can not see any mistake in mi logic...



I get what you're saying, Leirus, and it makes perfect sense. Illyana could never have anticipated what a powerful weapon she had when she created the Soulsword. As you just mentioned, it can disrupt any magickal creature or spell, so it seems logical that the Soulsword could also undo the effects of Wanda's "No more mutants" tantrum at the end of House of M.

Still, I'm reminded of the conversation Beast had with Dr. Strange or Spiral in X-Men: Endangered Species (I know it was one of the two, but I didn't care enough to do more than browse the issues at my local comic book store) in which he discovers that Wanda's spell is so intrinsically tied to the very fabric of reality, that to undo it would also unravel reality itself.

Basically, my point is, if Illyana were successful in breaking Wanda's spell with the Soulsword, would it create some heretofore unseen side effect(s)?

[yanapryde]

nice use of 'heretofor', Darkchylde.

[Brett P]

And Defip/Weir could have used the New Mutants when making a New Mutants title, but then you wouldn't have characters to complain about these days now would you? Every new character is eventually somebody's favorite.

When asked by Marvel to make a new teen school book? What, they were gonna de-age Dani, Shan and co? But, actually, half the New Mutants were in Defillips and Weirs book as mentors and Bobby and Sam appeared too so...:tongue:

Give it a rest.

How you give Ms.Frost a break you mean? :wink:

<3 <3

So is it me or is the X-office completely immersed in 80's and 90's nostalgia right now? Madelyne Prior? Magik? Legacy Virus? Archangel? Demon Bear? New Mutants? So long as it's not all a a rehash of past stories then fair enough...

[Anna]

I get what you're saying, Leirus, and it makes perfect sense. Illyana could never have anticipated what a powerful weapon she had when she created the Soulsword. As you just mentioned, it can disrupt any magickal creature or spell, so it seems logical that the Soulsword could also undo the effects of Wanda's "No more mutants" tantrum at the end of House of M.

Still, I'm reminded of the conversation Beast had with Dr. Strange or Spiral in X-Men: Endangered Species (I know it was one of the two, but I didn't care enough to do more than browse the issues at my local comic book store) in which he discovers that Wanda's spell is so intrinsically tied to the very fabric of reality, that to undo it would also unravel reality itself.

Basically, my point is, if Illyana were successful in breaking Wanda's spell with the Soulsword, would it create some heretofore unseen side effect(s)?

I'm for Illyana testing her sword on Wanda's neck.

[The Black Guardian]

That's a pathetic reply. I don't know what else could have been done, he searched for Dr. Strange, no one can find him, Limbo was sealed, what more?
There are more magicians (and much, much better ones) out there than Amanda.
Because he believes his brother to be capable of handling things?
Really dumb to be thinking in purely tactical ways, especially considering he should realize that his brother could never be capable of handling this. This isn't a slight against Alex, but Scott knows how powerful Vulcan is; he knows Vulcan now has the Shi'ar empire behind him. To leave his brother and AU daughter to this, even if they asked for it, is literally like throwing your family to the wolves. It's bastardy of the highest order. If he's going to be like this with his own family, the man shouldn't even be in the running to take charge of mutantkind in general.
Get over the hate, yours is irrational at best.
I don't hate Scott. I dislike the way he is right now, and it's completely rational. He could be so much better.

[MuhollandDriver]

You know what, people.....do You really feel this thread should devolve into yet another "Is Scott a prick or not" war? This thread is about X-Infernus, and so far i'd say 60% if the posts are arguments over Scott Summers. There are other things to talk about in the X-World. No, i am not a big fan of Cyclops. If You like him....so be it. This is Illyana's big return. i don't know about any of You..but reading multiple posts on whether Scott is a prick or not is dampening the joy.
Further reflecting on the issue....i was initially expecting something with a big, epic, intense feel. This issue was very much a setup issue. Later, i realized that a big, epic feel isn't really needed. The main point of this series is to bring Magik back to the Marvel Universe. That is, in itself, the big payoff.

[yanapryde]

You know what, people.....do You really feel this thread should devolve into yet another "Is Scott a prick or not" war? This thread is about X-Infernus, and so far i'd say 60% if the posts are arguments over Scott Summers. There are other things to talk about in the X-World. No, i am not a big fan of Cyclops. If You like him....so be it. This is Illyana's big return. i don't know about any of You..but reading multiple posts on whether Scott is a prick or not is dampening the joy.
Further reflecting on the issue....i was initially expecting something with a big, epic, intense feel. This issue was very much a setup issue. Later, i realized that a big, epic feel isn't really needed. The main point of this series is to bring Magik back to the Marvel Universe. That is, in itself, the big payoff.

HERE HERE!
As always, it would seem, MullhollandDriver....I'm with you!46122

[Justin K.]

You know what, people.....do You really feel this thread should devolve into yet another "Is Scott a prick or not" war? This thread is about X-Infernus, and so far i'd say 60% if the posts are arguments over Scott Summers. There are other things to talk about in the X-World. No, i am not a big fan of Cyclops. If You like him....so be it. This is Illyana's big return. i don't know about any of You..but reading multiple posts on whether Scott is a prick or not is dampening the joy.
Further reflecting on the issue....i was initially expecting something with a big, epic, intense feel. This issue was very much a setup issue. Later, i realized that a big, epic feel isn't really needed. The main point of this series is to bring Magik back to the Marvel Universe. That is, in itself, the big payoff.

100% in agreement with you on this
The first X-Death I read was Illyana's, and ever since that issue, been reading back on her older appearances and I have some to like her, plus her appearance in New X-men got me into New X-men as well. Anticipating Illyana being back :smile:

HERE HERE!
As always, it would seem, MullhollandDriver....I'm with you!46122

Very nice pictures :smile:

[Slung]

Okay: for those of you complaining about the story because Peter lashes out at Scott and puts in a few digs about his lack of commitment to his loved ones - lashing out is something someone does when they are upset. Give Peter a break - he's being irrational, its part of the story. No need to get bent out of shape over it. Scott is not in the wrong really this time (he's still a prick, but thats another story point apparently). And I disagree with Peter, Scott wouldn't do everything to save Jean: he decided they had to kill her last time she showed up (Endsong).

For those of you complaining about Scott being an ass and leaving his brother to rot in space: he's been a little busy! From trying to protect mutantkind to fighting off a Skrull invasion to trying to repopulate the mutant world one act of copulation at a time, Scott's been a busy guy. He explained to Peter all the things he's been trying to do (same as with Kitty) and he's trying to be supportive, which is a pretty big thing for Scott.

Now, with that said, I'm sure the words Scott is saying sound pretty empty to Pete (especially since they are so similar to what he said about rescuing Kitty). I thought the whole scene was one of the strongest in the book (which I thought was pretty great except for Illyana repeating herself over and over). This book is actually capturing Pixie's personality a little (as opposed to Fraction's abysmal work on the character) and it has Nightcrawler doing something. I honestly wish Young X-Men was reading more like this and less like it currently reads.

[creaky]

I now have the issue. OMG Pixie is likable again!
Should I be saying that?

[The Black Guardian]

The main point of this series is to bring Magik back to the Marvel Universe. That is, in itself, the big payoff.
Agreed. Sorry. Won't happen again.:redface:

[Twisted Bliss]

So those that knew the old school Illyana. With the soulsword that had no effect on non-magickal stuff/people.

I wondered whats your understanding? I know the sword had a corruptive effect on non-magickal stuff just prior to the original Inferno.

Could Pixie be being corrupted by her own soul-dagger? Would this explain why she was able to use her soul dagger on non-magickal people? Could she be infecting those she stabbed with an evil magickal corruption?

Or do you consider her soul dagger has different properties that Illyana's soulsword? Could it be that Illyana was just subconciously holding herself back. Limiting the effect the soulsword had?

I'd be interested on other peoples take on this since the inconsistent manner in which the soulsword has been portrayed since Inferno has been remarkable.

[Seres]

You know what, people.....do You really feel this thread should devolve into yet another "Is Scott a prick or not" war? This thread is about X-Infernus, and so far i'd say 60% if the posts are arguments over Scott Summers.

I was having a lovely chat with Jarrod about Hepzibah and Agent Brand until everyone else started forcing their opinions on "Magik" and "Pixie" on us.


HERE HERE!
As always, it would seem, MullhollandDriver....I'm with you!46122

Yanapryde, did you draw that picture of Magik? It's fantastic, and I hereby commission you to draw a picture of Darkstar. You will be paid, of course, but not in anything tangible.

[MuhollandDriver]

Well, it is a forum about X-Infernus, which heavily involves Magik and Pixie, not Agent Brand. Don't know what to say!

Slung made a great case for why Cyclops said what he said...and why Peter reacted how he reacted. Good, objective reasons! Many are kneejerking due to their subjective like or dislike of a character. i have my very subjective likes and dislikes also...nonetheless!

i, however, am starting to really enjoy where Young X-Men is going :).

[rwsmith]

Has anyone seen this: http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.6277.From_The_Flames_of_X-Infernus

I'm guessing that the team that is reunited is the New Mutants. I think I see Rahne there. The rest are probably Illyana, Dani, Sunspot and Cannonball.

Thoughts?

[Big Red Spider]

Has anyone seen this: http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.6277.From_The_Flames_of_X-Infernus

I'm guessing that the team that is reunited is the New Mutants. I think I see Rahne there. The rest are probably Illyana, Dani, Sunspot and Cannonball.

Thoughts?

Maybe Magma?

[pryde15]

Has anyone seen this: http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.6277.From_The_Flames_of_X-Infernus

I'm guessing that the team that is reunited is the New Mutants. I think I see Rahne there. The rest are probably Illyana, Dani, Sunspot and Cannonball.

Thoughts?

Someone posted the version with all the images.


Top Left: Magma (below Magma); Wolfsbane (below Wolfsbane); Dani Moonstar.

Top Right: Cannonball (below Cannonball); Karma (below Karma); Sunspot.

[MuhollandDriver]

Yeah. i'd love to get Warlock involved. He is back in the Marvel Univerise....had a great role in Nova several issues back. i want him here also.

[jarrod]

So those that knew the old school Illyana. With the soulsword that had no effect on non-magickal stuff/people.

I wondered whats your understanding? I know the sword had a corruptive effect on non-magickal stuff just prior to the original Inferno.

Could Pixie be being corrupted by her own soul-dagger? Would this explain why she was able to use her soul dagger on non-magickal people? Could she be infecting those she stabbed with an evil magickal corruption?

Or do you consider her soul dagger has different properties that Illyana's soulsword? Could it be that Illyana was just subconciously holding herself back. Limiting the effect the soulsword had?

I'd be interested on other peoples take on this since the inconsistent manner in which the soulsword has been portrayed since Inferno has been remarkable.
Technically though, Pixie's only used the dagger on beings with some sort of magical tie.

Belasco: obvious.

Omega Sentinel: created by and based on Bastion, who was created by passing through the Siege Perilous.

Empath: presently amped up by Maddie Pryor.

Nightcrawler: housing the Soulsword.

[Scavenger]

The main point of this series is to bring Magik back to the Marvel Universe. That is, in itself, the big payoff.

The main point is to tell a good story. The journey is more important than the destination.
Marvel is charging $16 for this series. If it's crap crap crap and then Oh, look Illyana's back so the crap's ok! tells Marvel that giving out crap is a-ok.

[mgs]

this was awesome! Loved the art and story/dialogue! Fit in perfectly with the characters/situations! :smile:

[Darkchylde]

Technically though, Pixie's only used the dagger on beings with some sort of magical tie.

Belasco: obvious.

Omega Sentinel: created by and based on Bastion, who was created by passing through the Siege Perilous.

Empath: presently amped up by Maddie Pryor.

Nightcrawler: housing the Soulsword.

Granted, Belasco is an obvious choice, but I don't quite see the other connections.

The Omega Sentinel was never infused with magic when she became a cyborg, and Bastion's exposure is incidental; he was remade into a new person by the Siege Perilous, but I doubt that makes him a mystical construct. (The same also applies to Rogue/Ms. Marvel, Psylocke, Havok, Dazzler, and Colossus.)

Additionally, Empath may have received a power boost from Madelyne Pryor, but it hasn't been established that Madelyne is alive again due to magickal means (at least, it hasn't been revealed yet, so a mystical resurrection isn't out of the question totally). However, given that C.B. Cebulski has stated recently that Maddie's return has nothing to do with X-Infernus, I'm guessing she's back through other, less supernatural means (unless it's just one big red herring).

[pryde15]

Granted, Belasco is an obvious choice, but I don't quite see the other connections.

The Omega Sentinel was never infused with magic when she became a cyborg, and Bastion's exposure is incidental; he was remade into a new person by the Siege Perilous, but I doubt that makes him a mystical construct. (The same also applies to Rogue/Ms. Marvel, Psylocke, Havok, Dazzler, and Colossus.)

Additionally, Empath may have received a power boost from Madelyne Pryor, but it hasn't been established that Madelyne is alive again due to magickal means (at least, it hasn't been revealed yet, so a mystical resurrection isn't out of the question totally). However, given that C.B. Cebulski has stated recently that Maddie's return has nothing to do with X-Infernus, I'm guessing she's back through other, less supernatural means (unless it's just one big red herring).


With Omega Sentinel, I think it had to do more with Malice. It is obvious that Pixie's soul dagger affected Malice, since after Karima was stabbed she was herself again.

[The Black Guardian]

The main point is to tell a good story. The journey is more important than the destination.
Marvel is charging $16 for this series. If it's crap crap crap and then Oh, look Illyana's back so the crap's ok! tells Marvel that giving out crap is a-ok.
The reverse also applies. Giving us a good story that doesn't end with Yana back in the 616 isn't okay either.:tongue:

[jackolover]

My God! Dormmamu and the White Queen in the same book. So there's the connection between all this in Norman Osborns basement. THis book looks like it is a link to the Dark Reign, now, because here are the X-Men and the Lord of the Dark Dimension. I called this when all this Dark Reign was first mentioned, that Dormmamu would be involved. But seeing as Ben Urich coined the phrase DARK REIGN, in his news article in Frontline #5, it's not going to be related to Dormmamu.

I'll have to keep an eye out for how Emma Frost plays out in all this, and if Dormy gets into her radar.

[McClarenDesign]

I'm just getting back into the X-books after about 6-8 years, and my have things changed.

I picked up X-infernus, and loved it. It's nice to see Maddy Pryor making a comeback in Uncanny, and Magik getting some face time (and hopefully some resolution).

I agree with Colossus. Although I have been gone a while, you'd think getting Magik back would've been a priority. Sure, I get the whole 'Secret Invasion' thing, and sure, things have been busy... but that's no excuse for "leaving a man behind".

[Joe Franklin]

Looks like we know what Fred Van Lente's new ongoing X-Book is going to be now.

Something with some of the original New Mutants in it.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/120408xinfernusteaser.html

And they are using the Randy Green New Mutants #13 cover to promote it early on?:confused:
http://www.comicvine.com/new-mutants-vol-2-the-more-things-change/37-108413/18351-108413-1-new-mutants/105-107376/

[gorthon616]

Looks like we know what Fred Van Lente's new ongoing X-Book is going to be now.

Something with some of the original New Mutants in it.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/120408xinfernusteaser.html

And they are using the Randy Green New Mutants #13 cover to promote it early on?:confused:
http://www.comicvine.com/new-mutants-vol-2-the-more-things-change/37-108413/18351-108413-1-new-mutants/105-107376/

They said he's going to get an X-Book!??! Excellent. He's definitely one of my favorite new writers.

[MuhollandDriver]

Hhmm? That link just states a preview for X-Infernus...as far as i can tell. Where does it talk of a new comic with some New Mutants?

[Come To Deathstrike]

If all my family was dead, but then one of them wasn't.
I'd probably want to see them. Probably.
I might be annoyed when I COULD NOT FIND THEM.

LOL, to people moaning about the desk smashing.
When people are angry, they hit things.

and RE to this new mutants thing.
Unless we see
CYPHER, TABITHA SMITH AND GOSSAMYR
I could take it or leave it.

[Twisted Bliss]

If all my family was dead, but then one of them wasn't.
I'd probably want to see them. Probably.
I might be annoyed when I COULD NOT FIND THEM.

LOL, to people moaning about the desk smashing.
When people are angry, they hit things.

and RE to this new mutants thing.
Unless we see
CYPHER, TABITHA SMITH AND GOSSAMYR
I could take it or leave it.


Gossamyr is still getting the scaffolding erected to hold up her giant hair.Once that is in place I firmly believe she will return.

Cypher is a tricky one. I genuinely liked the guy. Trouble is the strength of his character stems from him being relatively normal compared to most mutants. No flashy card throwing (defying the laws of physics) no self propelled flight, not optic force blasts.

If he were to return that defining 'normality' might easily be lost. If he can be returned without endangering his 'normality' then so be it. But it will take a talented and creative writer to do this.

[pariah-1972]

Wow it's nice to see someone use continuity this way (Pixie being a spaz, Kurt having a soul-sword inside him etc) tho i don't get why Peter didn't mention Kitty being left to die in space as well as Scott's brother?

It's kind of weird seeing everyone have issues with Scott lately (sometimes when it's not even his fault) and it makes me wonder if this is going to be leading up to something or maybe i'm just imagining things?


some of the art was weird like illyana in limbo thing was hard to read but i liked how they made pixie look the way she used to look during Yost and Kyle's run.

[Come To Deathstrike]

Gossamyr is still getting the scaffolding erected to hold up her giant hair.Once that is in place I firmly believe she will return.

Cypher is a tricky one. I genuinely liked the guy. Trouble is the strength of his character stems from him being relatively normal compared to most mutants. No flashy card throwing (defying the laws of physics) no self propelled flight, not optic force blasts.

If he were to return that defining 'normality' might easily be lost. If he can be returned without endangering his 'normality' then so be it. But it will take a talented and creative writer to do this.

Gosamyr's hair was in DANGER OF DESTROYING THE PLANET
they shoulda just got her some Loreal elnette instead of shipping her to SPACE.

And when Cypher returns, I shall have a mini party.
He should talk to Sage.

[Dagger]

Gossamyr is still getting the scaffolding erected to hold up her giant hair.Once that is in place I firmly believe she will return.

Cypher is a tricky one. I genuinely liked the guy. Trouble is the strength of his character stems from him being relatively normal compared to most mutants. No flashy card throwing (defying the laws of physics) no self propelled flight, not optic force blasts.

If he were to return that defining 'normality' might easily be lost. If he can be returned without endangering his 'normality' then so be it. But it will take a talented and creative writer to do this.
http://www.sixwise.com/images/articles/2005/09/21/hairspray.jpg

[SayOcean]

i love Gosamyr......little slut

[Alex A Sanchez]

I stopped reading this thread as soon as the spoilers appeared (because I know someone will put them in plan text in a page or so later).

I just wanted to say that this was some of the best art I have seen in an X-Book in a loooong time. Choi and Crane are great for talking head issues, but for a fast paced book like this, Guiseppi (spelling?) tore the roof off this baby. Loved that second shot of the Golden Gate bridge- great sense of atmosphere and spacial awareness.

[SayOcean]

I didnt like the arayan additions of the NM like skids, rusty collins, and boom boom, althought i love this team almost as much as like gen x, I like the diversity of the original NM But Gosamyer is cool

[Vanish]

YAY!

Great issue!

Fun art, fun dialogue--see that's all I ask for!

[Jack Flash]

YAY!

Great issue!

Fun art, fun dialogue--see that's all I ask for!

i totally agree!