X-men: Manifest Destiny #4

[Mikl C]

Story 1: The same as the last 3 times. Mystique and iceman fight. Msytique throws bombs at iceman. Iceman ices Mystique. They both promise to finish it. God, and take away this wonderful dynamic story?

0/5

Story 2: Mercury by CB Cebulski
Mercury is depressed because she is a blob of metal. Which.. fair enough. Then some dudes attack them and she beats them down and x-23 tells her she is a hero! Which makes it all better.

2.5/5

Story 3: Brother gotta work it out.
Nightcrawler is in the Danger Room and he keeps getting beat by all the simulations becase he is distracted by missing Kitty. Then he programs a holo-kitty and gives her a hug. It's sweet.

3.5/5

Overall pretty MEH!

[ProfeZZor X]

I never thought I'd say this, but even I'm getting tired of this Iceman story.

I liked the Mercury story the best. Loved the art.

[broodjeork]

ahhhh, i want to see. must buy.

*mercury fanboy hormones rising*

[jarrod]

Kurt story sounds best... but I'm biased.

He also clearly misses Lockheed. They should go out for drinks some time.

[Hakael]

Kurt story sounds best... but I'm biased.

He also clearly misses Lockheed. They should go out for drinks some time.

Kurt's story was the best of the bunch, the ending was perfect.
At least the writers understand that Nightcrawler has been under performing.

Mercury's story wasn't much of anything really, its just what we already know. She's ashamed of her powers to an extent. She has issues where she doesn't feel human (not needing to eat, being metal, etc). I wish it had handled her feelings on her current situation instead of a retread of her character.

Iceman's story is admittedly getting boring. It had promise, its just stretched out too far.

[broodjeork]

i guess the mercury story is more meant for the readers that know her already.
showing a bit background and showcasing powers a bit

[just another user]

Story 1: The same as the last 3 times. Mystique and iceman fight. Msytique throws bombs at iceman. Iceman ices Mystique. They both promise to finish it. God, and take away this wonderful dynamic story?

0/5

I never thought I'd say this, but even I'm getting tired of this Iceman story.

Iceman's story is admittedly getting boring. It had promise, its just stretched out too far.

It's a shame that his final story before Raven kills him off next issue has been so anti-climactic. As one of the originals he deserved a better send off.

[jarrod]

It's a shame that his final story before Raven kills him off next issue has been so anti-climactic. As one of the originals he deserved a better send off.
At least she killed Opal Tanaka. I would be willing to suffer through Endangered Species II for that.

[Zero Hunter]

I hoped and prayed the Mystique would be out of sight after the Wolverine story where he nearly kills her at least for a year or so. I me come on this is just getting so stupid anymore.

[maigen]

It's a shame that his final story before Raven kills him off next issue has been so anti-climactic. As one of the originals he deserved a better send off.

I've sent Santa a letter to be extra special nice to you for that one.

[worstblogever]

So the total list of mutants appearing is:


Nightcrawler
Iceman
Mystique
Mercury.



Wow. for three separate stories, that seems a bit low.

[Mikl C]

x-23 also.fggsegesrger

[Novaya Havoc]

At least she killed Opal Tanaka. I would be willing to suffer through Endangered Species II for that.

+ Infinity.

[worstblogever]

x-23 also.fggsegesrger

Oh yeah. Well, I'll just note in Mutant Tracker that she was last seen in Cable, or something. :wink:

[DeadXMan]

well at least X didn't have Mercury pick a fight with Juggy or the hulk.

Like logan would of done

[ExodusCloak]

Apocalypse can't help but make every story he appears in sucky.

[justinkos91]

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[Pach!]

This was a bad issue.

the iceman story is terrible
the mercury story was bad and cebulski cant capture x-23's voice.
the nightcrawler story was just ok.

[maigen]

Why did Nightcrawler make Kitty have her ass hanging out?

He's such a priest.

[cgar]

wasnt Avalanche suppose to have a story in these little Manifest Destiny mini stories

[jarrod]

wasnt Avalanche suppose to have a story in these little Manifest Destiny mini stories
I think there's another issue?

[chickrockguitar]

Do you have scans of Laura in Cess's story?

And, yes, there is another issue, according to the Marvel website.

[Novaya Havoc]

wasnt Avalanche suppose to have a story in these little Manifest Destiny mini stories

Avalanche/Dazzler stories are next week.

[CMBMOOL]

I have to admit with a friends like X-23 and Mercury you got to be smiling a bit. :biggrin:

Also it seems that like Colossus, Nightcrawler can feel his pain as well. That saddens me. :frown:

[RoguishGurl]

the mercury story was bad and cebulski cant capture x-23's voice.

I agree. She was totally out of character. And I know I'm gonna sound like a whiny fangirl, but I just can't help but imagine what this story would be like if written by Yost and Kyle.
Do you have scans of Laura in Cess's story?

And, yes, there is another issue, according to the Marvel website.
Here you go!
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2412/x23manifestdestinybj0.jpg

[creaky]

Kurt's story was the best of the bunch, the ending was perfect.
At least the writers understand that Nightcrawler has been under performing.

He's been under-performing since he got back from Excalibur, though. Blaming it on Kitty's death doesn't quite cut it.

[broodjeork]

yeah, cessily is smiling again :D

[chickrockguitar]

Thanks!!

Okay, 1) That does NOT sound like Laura. :eek:
And 2) Why is does Cess have no clothes on?!

[RoguishGurl]

Thanks!!

Okay, 1) That does NOT sound like Laura. :eek:
And 2) Why is does Cess have no clothes on?!

It doesn't. It's horrible. I broke my heart to read how she was written

And I think whenever Cess uses her powers her clothes go away. I think the same thing happened when she fought Belasco.

[jarrod]

LOL. Is Cess so ashamed of her naked body that she won't form nipples and a vage?

[Prodigy55]

The Nightcralwer story was the best, the ending was perfect.

But the Mercury story? Why is X-23 so nice and caring... and talkative?

[Omega Alpha]

The Nightcrawler story was good, the Mercury one mediocre, the Iceman one garbage. Shouldn't have happened in the first place.

[DeadXMan]

The Nightcralwer story was the best, the ending was perfect.

But the Mercury story? Why is X-23 so nice and caring... and talkative?

role reversal from mercury raising

[Mikl C]

LOL. Is Cess so ashamed of her naked body that she won't form nipples and a vage?

cuz THAT would be appropriate.

[jarrod]

cuz THAT would be appropriate.
Clearly Cess has body image issues. I suggest she apprentice with Storm.

[Mikl C]

Then she'd have some WEIRD STUFF going on down there.

[jarrod]

Then she'd have some WEIRD STUFF going on down there.
But she'd learn to TUCK.

[The Black Guardian]

It's a shame that his final story before Raven kills him off next issue has been so anti-climactic. As one of the originals he deserved a better send off.
Feh. We already know Raven isn't doing that.
The Nightcralwer story was the best, the ending was perfect.

But the Mercury story? Why is X-23 so nice and caring... and talkative?
Laura is nice and caring and talkative.
role reversal from mercury raising
Exactly.

[RoguishGurl]

The Nightcralwer story was the best, the ending was perfect.

But the Mercury story? Why is X-23 so nice and caring... and talkative?
Probably because the writer doesn't know her that well.


Laura is nice and caring and talkative.

She is not talkative. She may be caring, but she doesn't express that because she doesn't know how. And nice? I'm not sure if that is the right word.

[greenshoes713]

LOL

Mini-Mystique how cute!

[mikekerr3]

But the Mercury story? Why is X-23 so nice and caring... and talkative?

Her mission required talkingf so she talked, She is nice to her friends she's just murder on anyone else.

[ProfeZZor X]

Okay I re-read the Iceman story again... He's such a damn God now. No STD and he's learned a couple of new powers that solidify his immortality. I guess the only people that can stop him turning into a white room Jean are his writers.

P.S. - Can someone please scan in the last page of that Iceman story. Thx...

[steve2275]

i actually put this back on the shelf :eek:

[ClanAskani]

The Nightcrawler story was very cute. The rest was okay, but nothing all that special.

[The Black Guardian]

She is not talkative. She may be caring, but she doesn't express that because she doesn't know how. And nice? I'm not sure if that is the right word.
Did you read her second mini? She can be a blabbermouth and she does, most certainly, have a huge heart.

[RoguishGurl]

Did you read her second mini? She can be a blabbermouth and she does, most certainly, have a huge heart.

Yes I did read it. Many, many, many times. And I woudn't say she was a blabbermouth in it either. She is not that conversational in it imo and the only times she really says a lot is when she is giving out information like when she was talking her her classes or yelling back at the principal. The only time I can really see that she was more conversational was when she was talking Logan explaining why she had to kill them both. But still in that scene she wasn't what I would call a blabbermouth. Even when she was talking to Megan her sentences were short and to the point. Not chatty like in this story.

And I agree that she has a huge heart. But at the stage she is in right now, she can not adequately express to people that she cares.

[The Black Guardian]

Yes I did read it. Many, many, many times. And I woudn't say she was a blabbermouth in it either. She is not that conversational in it imo and the only times she really says a lot is when she is giving out information like when she was talking her her classes or yelling back at the principal. The only time I can really see that she was more conversational was when she was talking Logan explaining why she had to kill them both. But still in that scene she wasn't what I would call a blabbermouth. Even when she was talking to Megan her sentences were short and to the point. Not chatty like in this story.

And I agree that she has a huge heart. But at the stage she is in right now, she can not adequately express to people that she cares.
I wouldn't call her chatty in this story. She was very to the point in what she said, and she really didn't say a lot. Cess did 90% of the talking, whereas when Laura spoke, she spoke very plainly and simply. She also wasn't overly expressing she cares, though she does and that was her motivation.

[creaky]

Kurt's story was so bloody depressing. It is now official that after years of hard work he's been reduced to useless mascot. Back to square one.

[tunasammiches]

Iceman's story: I liked it. I love that she turned into Baby Mystique as an escape route. Adorable.

Mercury's story: I an uninterested in her character, but I like that they've made her so self loathing. It's a good spin for her character development. And I like the metaphor of the silly putty at the end.

Nightcrawler's story: I loved the visual effects for the Danger Room. They should use that always. I don't think he's a mascot, he's just experiencing a lull, and that's what this story's about.

[creaky]

Nightcrawler's story: I loved the visual effects for the Danger Room. They should use that always. I don't think he's a mascot, he's just experiencing a lull, and that's what this story's about.

When was he NOT experiencing a lull? Other than Excalibur, I mean. He's been dealing with these issues ever since he got back from there and every time he's gotten a confidence boost, he's been promptly knocked back down. There is never any progress made, they just won't resolve the issue.

[broodjeork]

When was he NOT experiencing a lull? Other than Excalibur, I mean. He's been dealing with these issues ever since he got back from there and every time he's gotten a confidence boost, he's been promptly knocked back down. There is never any progress made, they just won't resolve the issue.

lets just hope that x-infernus will put an end to kurts bad streek

[creaky]

lets just hope that x-infernus will put an end to kurts bad streek

I don't see any reason to think it will? It's not about Kurt, he's just one of many players. He's started off by being one-upped and stabbed by Pixie. Doesn't exactly bode well. They were gonna deal with this in his solo, too, way back when, and that led nowhere.
Somehow, being around the X-men is always like poison to Kurt's self-esteem.

[doublewhiskeycokenoice]

i know everyone's got some issues with the story aspects of this issue, but what really ground my gear for this was (don't have the issue on me, as i'm at work) whomever did the art for the Nightcrawler story. His name looked Japanese. The borderline anime style just looks awful.

[RoguishGurl]

I wouldn't call her chatty in this story. She was very to the point in what she said, and she really didn't say a lot. Cess did 90% of the talking, whereas when Laura spoke, she spoke very plainly and simply. She also wasn't overly expressing she cares, though she does and that was her motivation.
We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I think she was very out of character in this story. Her voice was completely wrong. But hey, if you liked it, that's all you.

[jarrod]

Somehow, being around the X-men is always like poison to Kurt's self-esteem.
LOL. It's so true that Alan Davis even made it plot point in Excalibur.

[Swashbuckler]

Yeah, I didn't like the Nightcrawler story much. I didn't really want an "aww, poor Nightcrawler" story. I mean really, why was he battling Apocalypse anyway. How stupid. I did like the danger room effect, but his appearance made look like a kupi doll or a BAMF doll. It was horrible. And I am so tired of Kitty Pryde we miss you BS. She's gone X-Men, deal with it. Nightcrawler and Colossus are two great characters and all the writers know to do with them is make them crying, weak idiots so that Pixie can be awesome. Lame-sauce with extra cheesy chunks on the side.

[jarrod]

I dunno, I liked the missing Kitty aspect. It's barely been acknowledged to this point (especially versus Colossus, which we're getting beaten over the head with), I'm glad to see it on panel finally.

It was maybe a bit sappy, though not as bad as Peter's perpetual ennui or Emma's crybaby lapse. Personally, I think the best handling of "missing Kitty" anywhere has been done by Cornell for Wisdom in MI-13.

[We R. Venom]

I love the Iceman story. still confused with Mystique. What I dont like is that I feel like im getting half a story. It feels like this whole mini is a bunch of one shots. Maybe it would have worked better like that. The chapters are just too short and it might have been much better in a full issue. Anyway its still good. I love iceman. This guys is in complete control of his powers and its brilliant. Mystique is impressive too. Psycho, but impressive.

The Nightcrawler Story was ok too but they are just all so short. The Mercury story was too, and also good. Especially since I love her and she is hot lol. Definately picking up the X- infernus trade.

[psychic_therapy]

Overall I think this issue was bad. Nightcrawler's story was the best but even that could've been done in 3 pages or even less.

[tunasammiches]

I liked it. I only chime in when I like stuff.

-I love Baby Mystique.
-I thought the silly putty metaphor was wrapped up real well at the end
-I like the visual effects for the Danger Room. They should use that always. Also, Kurt isn't being a mascot. He's just having a lull period and that's what this story's about. Same with Boomer's and Karma's stories.

As for Iceman, I'm afraid the only thing that's making him interesting is Mystique's involvement with him.

[ProfeZZor X]

I love the Iceman story. still confused with Mystique. What I dont like is that I feel like im getting half a story. It feels like this whole mini is a bunch of one shots. Maybe it would have worked better like that. The chapters are just too short and it might have been much better in a full issue. Anyway its still good. I love iceman. This guys is in complete control of his powers and its brilliant. Mystique is impressive too. Psycho, but impressive.

She keeps toying with him and pissing him off... It's a wonder if she ever gets her point across without being taken seriously.

[k.i.n.g.]

...but that iceman story has been the most tacky wad of fan-fic I have read in a long bit.

extra words: The Boom Boom story is still leading the pack.

[Bookem Danno]

Story 1: The same as the last 3 times. Mystique and iceman fight. Msytique throws bombs at iceman. Iceman ices Mystique. They both promise to finish it. God, and take away this wonderful dynamic story?

0/5 MEH!

http://i34.tinypic.com/ml2omt.jpg

Yes, indeedy. Imagine if Emma or Miss Sinister or Xavier mind controlled him? Or even The Controller. They'd be unstoppable now.

[Grapeweasel]

Who gets to pine about Kitty next issue?

And 'pine' wasn't my first word choice...

[ExodusCloak]

Who gets to pine about Kitty next issue?

And 'pine' wasn't my first word choice...

So far it would seem that Emma is the only one prepared to take any intiative in finding Kitty's corpse.

[steve2275]

lets just hope that x-infernus will put an end to kurts bad streek
ands petes too :tongue:

[x_goalkeeper]

So far it would seem that Emma is the only one prepared to take any intiative in finding Kitty's corpse.

that's true, but I don't think it will be a corpse!

[Archer]

The Nightcrawler story was okay, but the art - especially on the last couple of pages - made Kitty and Nightcrawler look like little kids.

I am entirely bored with the Mystique/Iceman story. Reading it, I couldn't even remember why she's trying to kill him, why he isn't with the X-Men, or why I'm meant to care. And my caring was so little that I haven't summoned up the energy to check the earlier issues.

Had to laugh at her "A-hah! The X-Men are in San Francisco!" moment though. She was all surprised and such, even though the X-Men are being entirely public and thirty seconds on Google could probably have given her their address. Tee hee.

[broodjeork]

Had to laugh at her "A-hah! The X-Men are in San Francisco!" moment though. She was all surprised and such, even though the X-Men are being entirely public and thirty seconds on Google could probably have given her their address. Tee hee.

not to mention that scott send a message to all mutants. guess she missed that:tongue:

[jarrod]

So far it would seem that Emma is the only one prepared to take any intiative in finding Kitty's corpse.
That's only because she's horny.

[Alex A Sanchez]

And I am so tired of Kitty Pryde we miss you BS. She's gone X-Men, deal with it.

Ever lost someone before? It is painful until you decide to just BAM get over it.

http://i34.tinypic.com/ml2omt.jpg


This scene looks exactly like the last time that they fought each other:

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[ProfeZZor X]

This scene looks exactly like the last time that they fought each other:


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/X-MenManifestDestiny04of5Large-05.jpg

He wasn't working at full strength back then, since the STD was in his system... Now that he's at 100%, he can laugh off the damage she or anyone else does to his physical body.

Give this man a team Mike Carey... damn it. He's so in control of himself and his powers now that it's not even funny.

[Vanish]

Yay baby Mystique!

Michael Ryan should continue to draw my 2nd-tier favorite characters. When he pencils my ULTIMATE favorites like Princess Powerful and Wind Dancer he epically fails, but his Mystique is quite enjoyable.

Less Iceman, more Mystique please. I'm not enjoying him at all anymore.

Nightcrawler's story was enjoyable for what it was, but conceptually 'eh'. Still I've become infatuated with James Asmus' contributions that I'm prematurely putting up my "PUT JAMES ASMUS ON AN X-ONGOING" signs. I like his humor and this issue showcased his versatility. I have faith in this guy.

Mercury's story was silly putty. Cry me some bling!, girl.




And while I did love seeing Takeshi on art, I thought Adi Gravnov and Daniel Acuna was penciling this issue?!?!?!?