HSDK manga discussion thread [Archive] - Comic Book Resources Forums

Len Ikari145

12-01-2008, 03:52 PM

This is a great manga that I always look forward to reading.

I read Akisame's fight and of all the other masters fights his was the best.

Yeah, I thought Akisame's battle with Alexander was intense, and I think this is the first time we've seen Masters pushed to their limits. I'd also like to add that Chikage is a creepy little loli prodigy. I hope we get to see her and Renka Ma fight soon.

master of read

12-01-2008, 04:18 PM

and just how many women are gonna fall for kenichi? hell, i think shigure might harbor some feelings for him.

Len Ikari145

12-01-2008, 04:38 PM

and just how many women are gonna fall for kenichi? hell, i think shigure might harbor some feelings for him.

Eh, I'm not too sure about Shigure. I think she sees him as a younger brother. I'm wondering when Miu's finally going to explode from all her jealousy and make out with Kenichi in front of their school to express to the world that he belongs to her.

Dark Soul # 7

12-01-2008, 05:10 PM

Yeah, I thought Akisame's battle with Alexander was intense, and I think this is the first time we've seen Masters pushed to their limits. I'd also like to add that Chikage is a creepy little loli prodigy. I hope we get to see her and Renka Ma fight soon.Bah!

The true battle for Chikage will be between her and Honoka in a game of Othello!:cool:

At least I hope that will happen at one point in the manga.Eh, I'm not too sure about Shigure. I think she sees him as a younger brother. I'm wondering when Miu's finally going to explode from all her jealousy and make out with Kenichi in front of their school to express to the world that he belongs to her.I'm with you on the Shigure part. It's definately more little brother than anything else.

As for Miu explonding with jealousy. Possibly when Kenichi gets caught in the combined marshmellow hell of Renka's and Rachel's combined... assests.

Len Ikari145

12-01-2008, 05:26 PM

Bah!

The true battle for Chikage will be between her and Honoka in a game of Othello!:cool:

Knowing the author, that just might happen.
At least I hope that will happen at one point in the manga.I'm with you on the Shigure part. It's definately more little brother than anything else.

Knowing the author, that just might happen.
As for Miu explonding with jealousy. Possibly when Kenichi gets caught in the combined marshmellow hell of Renka's and Rachel's combined... assests.

It's a shame two hot girls will have to die in order to catalyze Miu's feelings, but love has its sacrifices.

Speaking of love, I'm still kinda stunned over the much hinted at UkitaxKisara coupling that's developing in the manga.

FistofIron

12-01-2008, 05:46 PM

Anybody else waiting to see what kind of monster Kajima is?

Dark Soul # 7

12-01-2008, 05:48 PM

Knowing the author, that just might happen.We can only hope and pray that it happens.
It's a shame two hot girls will have to die in order to catalyze Miu's feelings, but love has its sacrifices.Well, that's the way of life. As long as Rachel and Siegfriend dukes it out first in front of a massive crowd first.
Speaking of love, I'm still kinda stunned over the much hinted at UkitaxKisara coupling that's developing in the manga.I think that's my favorite potential couple in the mangaright now. If they would only stop being wimps and start making out already.

master of read

12-01-2008, 05:50 PM

Knowing the author, that just might happen.

It's a shame two hot girls will have to die in order to catalyze Miu's feelings, but love has its sacrifices.

Speaking of love, I'm still kinda stunned over the much hinted at UkitaxKisara coupling that's developing in the manga.

i wasnt. you could see ukita was crushing over kisara.

also, kensai has found the perfect girl in pollax, since she loves attention.

Dark Soul # 7

12-01-2008, 05:53 PM

Anybody else waiting to see what kind of monster Kajima is?I'm waiting more to find out about what it takes to beat Koukin. Since he absolutely crushed Kenichi's endurance with little effort, something only master level fighters have done previously.

Len Ikari145

12-01-2008, 06:03 PM

i wasnt. you could see ukita was crushing over kisara.

Well yeah, but I'm talking about the fact regarding Kisara actually reciprocated those feelings that stunned me. Still, I was happy as hell at this development and for awhile, I was looking more forward to more KisaraxUkita than MiuxKenichi.

I think that's my favorite potential couple in the mangaright now. If they would only stop being wimps and start making out already.

More than likely, those two will become a couple before Kenichi and Miu.

also, kensai has found the perfect girl in pollax, since she loves attention

Yeah, a woman he can ogle without fear of violent reprisal. Every pervert's dream.:biggrin:

FistofIron

12-01-2008, 06:09 PM

I'm waiting more to find out about what it takes to beat Koukin. Since he absolutely crushed Kenichi's endurance with little effort, something only master level fighters have done previously.

Yeah dude did take out Kenichi like he was nothing. I want to see Appachai fight Koukin's master. While his master hasn't done anything yet you just know he's going to be a beast.

Len Ikari145

12-01-2008, 06:17 PM

Dark Soul # 7

12-01-2008, 06:23 PM

Indeed. Plus, It's hinted that Koukin's Master might be Apachai's (or at least a fellow pupil of the same master). I can't wait for that confrontation.

On an unrelated topic: Am I the only one who believes Apachai to be some horrible pokemon/human hybrid experiment gone wrong. Not that it makes him any less awesome, mind you.So you're saying that he punched his way into the HSDK dimension to escape all the pre-teen trainers in the Pokemon dimension?

Apachai just became ten times more awesome!:biggrin:

master of read

12-01-2008, 06:24 PM

So you're saying that he punched his way into the HSDK dimension to escape all the pre-teen trainers in the Pokemon dimension?

Apachai just became ten times more awesome!:biggrin:

well it would explain his avoidance in hurting animals. maybe he thinks they are fellow pokemon.:biggrin:

Dark Soul # 7

12-01-2008, 06:27 PM

well it would explain his avoidance in hurting animals. maybe he thinks they are fellow pokemon.:biggrin:It also explains why it seems like he's able to communicate with them.

Len Ikari145

12-01-2008, 06:36 PM

well it would explain his avoidance in hurting animals. maybe he thinks they are fellow pokemon.:biggrin:

It also explains his tendency to knock Kenichi TFO. It's not because he doesn't know how to restrain himself, it's a covert act of revenge against the humans that have enslaved his fellow pokemon and forced them into pointless battles with one another.

Apachai: "Apa apa apa apa apachai!" (Die for Apachai, bitch!) *Highkicks Kenichi over the horizon*

Miu: Kenichi-san! Apachai, why did you do that?!

Apachai: Apa Apa Apa Apachai Hopachai! (Because I'm motherfucking Apachai Hopachai!)

Dark Soul # 7

12-02-2008, 03:39 AM

Generic question time!

Which HSDK character is your favorite?

For me it is The Immortal Composer Siegfried!

Len Ikari145

12-02-2008, 08:07 AM

Generic question time!

Which HSDK character is your favorite?

For me it is The Immortal Composer Siegfried!

I second Siegfried. Traditionally, Kenichi would be my technical favorite, but really, I love all the characters in HSDK(except Shou, he's a great villain, but I hated his guts; which is kind of the point so it's fine:biggrin: ).

Len Ikari145

12-02-2008, 08:54 AM

Another random question: Who else wished that Shigure had taken her would-be tank home with her?

Aubergine~!

12-02-2008, 09:24 AM

Generic question time!

Which HSDK character is your favorite?

Apachai is entertainment.

Next question: name a completely random couple you think would work out. Ok, not a question. Whatever.

master of read

12-02-2008, 09:40 AM

Generic question time!

Which HSDK character is your favorite?

For me it is The Immortal Composer Siegfried!

damn. that's a hard question. if i had to pick.................boris. i just like the guy for some reason.

Dark Soul # 7

12-02-2008, 09:54 AM

Another random question: Who else wished that Shigure had taken her would-be tank home with her?ME! She could've used it as a secret clubhouse for her, Apachai and Honoka.Next question: name a completely random couple you think would work out. Ok, not a question. Whatever.Let's see, Takeda and Freya could work out I think.

Or Boris and Ono, that teacher that was nice to him.

Dark Soul # 7

12-02-2008, 09:56 AM

damn. that's a hard question. if i had to pick.................boris. i just like the guy for some reason.I like him too. He's the first Yomi member I didn't want to strangle the second he said his first monologue.

master of read

12-02-2008, 12:38 PM

I like him too. He's the first Yomi member I didn't want to strangle the second he said his first monologue.

i got that vibe from him too. plus, he's not really evil. he's just following orders and for him, orders are absolute. i think boris might join the shinpaku, once he finds out alex is locked up.

Kevin M.

12-02-2008, 12:55 PM

I also just started reading HSDK thanks to you people. I curse you all with the clap!

FistofIron

12-02-2008, 02:08 PM

Generic question time!

Which HSDK character is your favorite?

For me it is The Immortal Composer Siegfried!

Its hard to when pretty much the whole cast is just made of win.

I guess my favorite character would be Appachai he's just a great character.

http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/281/09/

Aubergine~!

12-02-2008, 07:13 PM

My favourite Apachai moment is the top panel of this page:

http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/303/16/

Len Ikari145

12-02-2008, 07:44 PM

This is *my* favorite Apachai moment:http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/78/10/

master of read

12-03-2008, 12:54 PM

new chapter out!

we learn more about kushinada and her history. and miu decides to let her hair down a little. smexy

FistofIron

12-03-2008, 01:56 PM

I want Ma Kensei to fight the hot Jujutsu master.

Anyone else want James Shiba to show why he's called the God of Destruction?

sun tzu

12-04-2008, 03:22 PM

Generic question time!

Which HSDK character is your favorite?

For me it is The Immortal Composer Siegfried!

Kenichi himself for me.

Now, while I love the manga to pieces, I'm somewhat bothered by how slowly they're developing some parts. The Kenichi-Miu relationship comes to mind, of course (and seriously, some of Kenichi's attitude in that regard kinda bothers me), as does the Ukita-Kisara thing (and Ukita? Get better training. Seriously.), but there's also Nijima. It's been indicated on more than one occasion that he could turn into something more noble, so to speak, but that seems to have been put on hold for the sake of comedy...

Len Ikari145

12-04-2008, 03:33 PM

Kenichi himself for me.

Now, while I love the manga to pieces, I'm somewhat bothered by how slowly they're developing some parts. The Kenichi-Miu relationship comes to mind, of course (and seriously, some of Kenichi's attitude in that regard kinda bothers me), as does the Ukita-Kisara thing (and Ukita? Get better training. Seriously.), but there's also Nijima. It's been indicated on more than one occasion that he could turn into something more noble, so to speak, but that seems to have been put on hold for the sake of comedy...

Honestly, I don't think Kenichi and Miu are going to profess anything until it comes the time to face off against Saiga. The gradual process of Ukita/Kisara is reasonable since they've only become aware of their own feelings since the D-of-D tournament saga. As for Niijima, he's better off as an evil conspirator with a bizarre concept of friendship. I'm definitely with you on Ukita though. Hopefully, he'll find a master of his own 'cause I don't want to see him reduced to Krillin status.

master of read

12-04-2008, 03:38 PM

Honestly, I don't think Kenichi and Miu are going to profess anything until it comes the time to face off against Saiga. The gradual process of Ukita/Kisara is reasonable since they've only become aware of their own feelings since the D-of-D tournament saga. As for Niijima, he's better off as an evil conspirator with a bizarre concept of friendship. I'm definitely with you on Ukita though. Hopefully, he'll find a master of his own 'cause I don't want to see him reduced to Krillin status.

ukita is too good to be the krillin.

Dark Soul # 7

12-04-2008, 04:44 PM

ukita is too good to be the krillin.I hope that you're right. But I hope that he doesn't find a master ala Takeda. It would be too much of a repeat. Some special training should be good for him though. Anything that puts him at least at Kisara's level.

As for Niijima. When you're two best friends refer to you a demonic overlord/evil alien it's going to take awhile for you to become truly noble.

master of read

12-04-2008, 04:55 PM

I hope that you're right. But I hope that he doesn't find a master ala Takeda. It would be too much of a repeat. Some special training should be good for him though. Anything that puts him at least at Kisara's level.

As for Niijima. When you're two best friends refer to you a demonic overlord/evil alien it's going to take awhile for you to become truly noble.

i dont want niijima to be noble. he must be a evil cunning bastard.

sun tzu

12-05-2008, 10:06 AM

To me, what really drove home the point that Nijima wasn't a one-dimensional selfish jerkass was the "testament" he sent Kenichi toward the end of the Ragnarok arc. The fact that, when he thought he was really going to die, his response was to explain himself to Kenichi and try to keep his plan (and not a bad plan!) alive...That added depth (and also, explained the motivation for some of his earlier actions). That's why I'm hoping to see more of that.
It's also occurred to me that Nijima is like a reverse Smug Snake: He comes across as a pathetic, annoying guy most of the time (and seems to have little regard for anyone's dignity, including his own)...then he surprises you by pulling magnificent moves.

Daemon

12-09-2008, 02:41 AM

So who here thinks:

Miu's dad is leader of Yami?

Or at the very least he's a bad guy.

FistofIron

12-09-2008, 03:12 AM

So who here thinks:

Miu's dad is leader of Yami?

Or at the very least he's a bad guy.

He's without a doubt the leader. With that being said I can't wait to see him in action.

Dark Soul # 7

12-09-2008, 03:17 AM

So who here thinks:

Miu's dad is leader of Yami?

Or at the very least he's a bad guy.I don't know if he's the leader. But I think it's been established that he is a pretty gigantic asswipe.

Len Ikari145

12-09-2008, 08:29 AM

He's without a doubt the leader. With that being said I can't wait to see him in action.

Yeah, His status as the leader has been obvious for awhile; besides there's no way the Yami would follow someone weaker than themselves. I also wonder if Kenichi or Hayato will be the ones to take him in the end. If I'm right, especially considering he's Hayato's son, he's most likely the second most powerful character in the series next to Hayato(meaning he's possibly above Ryozanpaku Dojo and just under the Elder's level).

I don't know if he's the leader. But I think it's been established that he is a pretty gigantic asswipe.

Yeah, I'd really to know the circumstances that prompted him to murder his own wife. Whatever the case, I just want to see Kenichi go apeshit on him, even if it would ultimately be a foolish and useless endeavor.

Dark Soul # 7

12-09-2008, 08:58 AM

Yeah, His status as the leader has been obvious for awhile; besides there's no way the Yami would follow someone weaker than themselves. I also wonder if Kenichi or Hayato will be the ones to take him in the end. If I'm right, especially considering he's Hayato's son, he's most likely the second most powerful character in the series next to Hayato(meaning he's possibly above Ryozanpaku Dojo and just under the Elder's level).

Yeah, I'd really to know the circumstances that prompted him to murder his own wife. Whatever the case, I just want to see Kenichi go apeshit on him, even if it would ultimately be a foolish and useless endeavor.Maybe Kenichi and Hayato will battle him together and Hayato takes a killing blow that was meant for Kenichi. At this point Miu's dad is so beat up that Kenichi actually has a fighting chance. That would be cool.

sun tzu

12-09-2008, 10:47 AM

To be honest, one of the things that bother me about HSDK is its approach to romance, especially where Miu is concerned. Both Kenichi and Shou have this weird obsession with "protecting" her...Hell, before the Yomi arc, she sure as heck didn't look like she needed protection! And between Kenichi's refusal (for, what, a year now?) to tell her he loves her, and his moving into the dojo just to be under the same roof as her...I'm not going to call him a stalker, but I can't say I'm really comfortable with some of it. He's a generally awesome guy, but when it comes to Miu...

Len Ikari145

12-09-2008, 11:28 AM

sun tzu

12-10-2008, 09:08 AM

He's a lovestruck teen fighter in a comedy/action/romance shonen manga. I wouldn't think too deeply about it (especially with its cast).

I know, but it still makes for some moral dissonance.
It's nothing major, but it's there.

Dark Soul # 7

12-10-2008, 03:12 PM

Does anybody know why they haven't animated beyond the Ragnarok arc? I would've loved to see the D of D tournament being animated.

Len Ikari145

12-10-2008, 03:29 PM

Does anybody know why they haven't animated beyond the Ragnarok arc? I would've loved to see the D of D tournament being animated.

Supposedly, the Yomi arc is scheduled to start animating in Mar'09.

Lonewolf 5

12-11-2008, 01:43 AM

New chapter is out. Takada now has eyes on Renka and will fight Kenichi for fun.

Dark Soul # 7

12-11-2008, 04:22 AM

Hm, Takeda and Renka, sure it could work.

I hope that Kenichi takes this parring match more seriously than the one he had against Shinnosuke.

FistofIron

12-11-2008, 04:37 AM

Hm, Takeda and Renka, sure it could work.

I hope that Kenichi takes this parring match more seriously than the one he had against Shinnosuke.

I agree I hope Kenichi doesn't hold back. I also hope that they really push each other in their match.

I wonder if the God of Destruction will make an appearance in the next chapter?

master of read

12-11-2008, 06:10 AM

i was wondering if takeda would find a woman for himself, since ukita is after kisara.

i do hope takeda and kenichi have a good match.

Kevin M.

12-11-2008, 12:07 PM

I'm currently up to chapter nine, and I have to say that I really like this Manga. I especially like the Ryozanpaku masters, especially Apachi.

FistofIron

12-11-2008, 12:12 PM

I'm currently up to chapter nine, and I have to say that I really like this Manga. I especially like the Ryozanpaku masters, especially Apachi.

It's always good to see another HSDK fan. I'm glad you like it.

Deskad

12-11-2008, 08:37 PM

Len Ikari145

12-11-2008, 09:00 PM

Awesome, awesome manga, I am a huge fan of this series. It's actually inspired me to train more.

Apachai makes me laugh every damn time, but I can't really say I have a favourite character. HSDK is just one of those cool mangas where most of the characters, heroes and villians, are likable.

On Miu's and Kenichi's relationship... well, come on folks, it's a manga, the romances in them move slow as molasses till the end, frustrating but that's the name of the game.

What I personally find frustrating, and possibly the only negative point in the manga, is Kenichi's unchanging cowardice. I don't know, it's probably just me with my crazy background, but one would think that a person who has grown that strong would actually crave some test of his skill. That's why I'm looking forward to the chapters where he spars with either Takeda or Natsu-chan[lol].

Oh, a bit of trivia, the short form of Alexander in Russian isn't Alex, it's Sasha.

But that's what makes Kenichi unique amongst the league of teen anime protagonist. Whenever a teenage hero in anime gains a significant measure of power, it's always "I have to fight stronger and stronger adversaries for so and such reason" whereas Kenichi, despite becoming an accomplished martial artist, is essentially a normal teenager(as normal as he can get) and rather practical. He's inherently a kind pacifist by nature, and is the type who doesn't use violence unless the situation calls for it (whether it's training or a fight for his life). That, and I don't think he's comfortable with the idea of fighting those he considers his friends. But, in any case, that situation is going to change.

Dark Soul # 7

12-12-2008, 04:31 AM

But that's what makes Kenichi unique amongst the league of teen anime protagonist. Whenever a teenage hero in anime gains a significant measure of power, it's always "I have to fight stronger and stronger adversaries for so and such reason" whereas Kenichi, despite becoming an accomplished martial artist, is essentially a normal teenager(as normal as he can get) and rather practical. He's inherently a kind pacifist by nature, and is the type who doesn't use violence unless the situation calls for it (whether it's training or a fight for his life). That, and I don't think he's comfortable with the idea of fighting those he considers his friends. But, in any case, that situation is going to change.This time his masters, or at least Akisame, will tell him not to hold back. They wouldn't want to lose to Takeda's master, whose names escapes me at the moment, now would they.:biggrin:

Kevin M.

12-12-2008, 09:26 AM

The Jujitsu master is quickly becoming my favorite out of all the masters.

sun tzu

12-12-2008, 12:45 PM

Nik Hasta

12-12-2008, 12:55 PM

One thing that has had me wondering ever since I started reading the manga is...
...how realistic are the techniques?
I'm not talking about the insane crap the masters pull. That stuff is typical "martial arts make you superhuman" anime fare. But the techniques Kenichi and (most of) his foes use seem...well, they seem like the result of the writer doing his research.

They are to an extent.

A lot of the techniques Kenichi is taught are perfectly real. He just deploys them with speed and precision that just isn't possible in the real world.

Deskad

12-12-2008, 01:09 PM

Basically the same thing I was going to say. HSDK martial arts are based on real ones, just done to an impossibly precise and technical level.

Not sure about the sambo though. As a practitioner of it, I can say with some surety that we neither yell our attack names, nor call them anything really. Though it was kind of amusing to see Boris go all nuts with the Russian[some of it gramatically incorrect].

Kusanagi

12-12-2008, 07:44 PM

Wooo finally caught up with the manga, took me about a week once I got into it. Really liking that it's avoided the surpassing your mentors and rivals casually trope that a lot of shounen stories use.

Aubergine~!

12-13-2008, 08:45 AM

On a semi-related note, am I the only one who wants to the manga end with Kenichi joining the (now defunct) Pride Fighting Championships and getting his ass kicked by Fedor?

Deskad

12-13-2008, 11:01 AM

On a semi-related note, am I the only one who wants to the manga end with Kenichi joining the (now defunct) Pride Fighting Championships and getting his ass kicked by Fedor?

What, as revenge for Boris or something?

Deskad

12-15-2008, 07:48 PM

He's inherently a kind pacifist by nature, and is the type who doesn't use violence unless the situation calls for it (whether it's training or a fight for his life). That, and I don't think he's comfortable with the idea of fighting those he considers his friends.

I've been thinking for a while on how to respond to this, because it is a good point... but then it struck me.

That's not realistic at all.

Kenichi, as often portrayed, are not what guys are like, at least not on Earth or anywhere I came from.

A ninety pound weakling scared of getting sent to the hospital is a pacifist.

But a powerhouse like he had become backing out of a good spar, or just some way to show off physical ability?

Christ almighty, that's just not real. Because let's face it, once you learn how to fight, unless you've been castrated, are not human, if you have any masculinity in you whatsoever, you've gotta have some itch to show off your alphamalenes at some frikkin point just for shits and giggles..

Jesus, I remember learning my first karate punches and kicks, everything that moved was a practice target for the next four weeks, and I was a seven year old with a poorly functioning left leg.

Anyways, that was my rant, please don't take it too seriously anyone. Because it still doesn't change the fact that I love the frikkin shit out of HSDK and Kenichi as a character.

sun tzu

12-16-2008, 10:27 AM

They are to an extent.

A lot of the techniques Kenichi is taught are perfectly real. He just deploys them with speed and precision that just isn't possible in the real world.

Yeah, I figure that in the real world, someone who can kick like early Kisara (or block the punches of a semi-pro boxer with her feet) or early Hermit would be world-class...

I've been thinking for a while on how to respond to this, because it is a good point... but then it struck me.

That's not realistic at all.

Kenichi, as often portrayed, are not what guys are like, at least not on Earth or anywhere I came from.

A ninety pound weakling scared of getting sent to the hospital is a pacifist.

But a powerhouse like he had become backing out of a good spar, or just some way to show off physical ability?

Christ almighty, that's just not real. Because let's face it, once you learn how to fight, unless you've been castrated, are not human, if you have any masculinity in you whatsoever, you've gotta have some itch to show off your alphamalenes at some frikkin point just for shits and giggles..

Jesus, I remember learning my first karate punches and kicks, everything that moved was a practice target for the next four weeks, and I was a seven year old with a poorly functioning left leg.

Anyways, that was my rant, please don't take it too seriously anyone. Because it still doesn't change the fact that I love the frikkin shit out of HSDK and Kenichi as a character.
There's certainly some truth to that (I can tell, having recently started training in karate...And I still remember the one time I used a judo throw in real life)...but given what Kenichi is put through for the sake of his training, I suppose he's scared, even against foes he knows he could curbstomp.

Deskad

12-16-2008, 09:57 PM

There's certainly some truth to that (I can tell, having recently started training in karate...And I still remember the one time I used a judo throw in real life)...but given what Kenichi is put through for the sake of his training, I suppose he's scared, even against foes he knows he could curbstomp.

True enough. I mean, what the hey, people differ.

Like I said, I wasn't really arguing.. just philosophising[what's life without it eh?].

Aubergine~!

12-16-2008, 11:41 PM

What, as revenge for Boris or something?

Nah, Kenichi just realises he's got no real job prospects and joins Pride FC to earn cash.

Then runs into Fedor somehow.

Kevin M.

12-17-2008, 12:25 AM

I did martial arts for about five weeks....before I switched over to Football. Just found it so much more fun.

FistofIron

12-24-2008, 01:02 PM

The new chapters out and it was awesome. I've been waiting to see what type of boxing Takeda has been learning from James Shiba and while it was brief it looked cool.

Kevin M.

12-24-2008, 01:09 PM

True enough. I mean, what the hey, people differ.

Like I said, I wasn't really arguing.. just philosophising[what's life without it eh?].

You realize that a good number of Martial Arts really don't help you in afight.

arp2008

12-25-2008, 09:45 AM

Merry Christmas, EVERYONE!!!!!!!

Kusanagi

12-25-2008, 10:59 PM

Nice to see Takeda finally get some love again, also the mustache bet added some added pressure on the two of them.:biggrin:

FistofIron

12-25-2008, 11:08 PM

Nice to see Takeda finally get some love again, also the mustache bet added some added pressure on the two of them.:biggrin:

I wonder when James Shiba will fight?

I wanna see what master class boxing is all about.

Len Ikari145

12-25-2008, 11:57 PM

Nice to see Takeda finally get some love again, also the mustache bet added some added pressure on the two of them.:biggrin:

He also mimicked Kenichi's Mubyoshi technique. Kenichi's in trouble if Takeda can use his best ougi.

Dark Soul # 7

12-26-2008, 09:31 AM

That some fancy fist work y Takeda, but it will take more than that to bring down Kenichi.

At least I hope so.

Len Ikari145

12-26-2008, 10:35 AM

That some fancy fist work y Takeda, but it will take more than that to bring down Kenichi.

At least I hope so.

It's gonna be close, that's for sure. He canceled out Kenichi's Seikuken before he could implement it and he can use Mubyoshi (or at least a punch similar to it). That's two of his best techs down the drain. So all he has left is his infamous endurance(which will probably become the ultimate deciding factor) and Saikyo combos 1-4 to help him through. Of course R.Seikuken's precog may also give him an edge.

Dark Soul # 7

12-26-2008, 12:51 PM

It's gonna be close, that's for sure. He canceled out Kenichi's Seikuken before he could implement it and he can use Mubyoshi (or at least a punch similar to it). That's two of his best techs down the drain. So all he has left is his infamous endurance(which will probably become the ultimate deciding factor) and Saikyo combos 1-4 to help him through. Of course R.Seikuken's precog may also give him an edge.Don't forget his ability to mimic his sensei's mannerism. Might give him somewhat of an edge.

While I'm normally against stalemates I wouldn't mind it if they knocked out each other just to see Shigure chase Akisame, James and their staches through the city.

Also, has anybody else noticed that HSDK jumped up to fourth place in the most read manga list over at onemanga? Awesome.:biggrin:

master of read

12-26-2008, 02:53 PM

Don't forget his ability to mimic his sensei's mannerism. Might give him somewhat of an edge.

While I'm normally against stalemates I wouldn't mind it if they knocked out each other just to see Shigure chase Akisame, James and their staches through the city.

Also, has anybody else noticed that HSDK jumped up to fourth place in the most read manga list over at onemanga? Awesome.:biggrin:

sweet.

as to the fight, this will be hard to choose but ken better not think he can go easy with taeka or he'll be eating the mat a lot.

Dark Soul # 7

12-27-2008, 07:36 AM

sweet.

as to the fight, this will be hard to choose but ken better not think he can go easy with taeka or he'll be eating the mat a lot.You know, for being such a nice and selfdoubting guy Kenichi has gotten quite a few lessons in humility. Maybe it's time for another one.

Dark Soul # 7

12-31-2008, 03:24 AM

Random question time in wait of the next chapter.

How would guys rank the Shinpaku Alliance captains in terms of overall fighting ability? This include Natsu, just to annoy him.:biggrin:

Dark Soul # 7

01-01-2009, 11:50 AM

Some great moments from the anime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnSzNvaUfag&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVaHTKq4ePs&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq9FHE8lC8M&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XAgMSmjckk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ETpMDNRSgE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taKpL2pF2v0&feature=related

This last one is the thing that got me into HSDK. It's perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZRa7D4dnas&feature=channel_page

sun tzu

01-01-2009, 12:04 PM

This last one is the thing that got me into HSDK. It's perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZRa7D4dnas&feature=channel_page

Oh yeah. Best scene in the entire anime. A Crowning Moment of Awesome if I've ever seen one.

Len Ikari145

01-02-2009, 04:14 AM

Oh yeah. Best scene in the entire anime. A Crowning Moment of Awesome if I've ever seen one.

I can't wait until the Yomi arc is animated (if the rumours are true).

Dark Soul # 7

01-02-2009, 04:51 PM

I can't wait until the Yomi arc is animated (if the rumours are true).I hope that they are.

The Kenichi/Shou battle MUST be animated!

Len Ikari145

01-03-2009, 05:30 AM

You know, for being such a nice and selfdoubting guy Kenichi has gotten quite a few lessons in humility. Maybe it's time for another one.

Yeah, I remember one particular chapter where he thought he was good enough to take on his masters and we know the outcome that came from THAT assumption.

darksaint124

01-03-2009, 06:10 AM

I hope that they are.

The Kenichi/Shou battle MUST be animated!

I just want all Nijima scenes to be animated and I'll be happy:biggrin:

Dark Soul # 7

01-03-2009, 07:07 AM

Yeah, I remember one particular chapter where he thought he was good enough to take on his masters and we know the outcome that came from THAT assumption.It was actually just a happy dream he had and they over-reacted to it, IMHO. Probably because they REALLY don't want him to become over-confident in himself.

But yeah, it was fun to see just how far he is from their level.:biggrin:

FistofIron

01-03-2009, 07:55 AM

It was actually just a happy dream he had and they over-reacted to it, IMHO. Probably because they REALLY don't want him to become over-confident in himself.

But yeah, it was fun to see just how far he is from their level.:biggrin:

Yeah I don't think they even touched him. They basically sent him flying with strong gust of wind.

Dark Soul # 7

01-03-2009, 08:02 AM

Yeah I don't think they even touched him. They basically sent him flying with strong gust of wind.That was just Sakaki, Akisame and Ma.

Apachai basically ehm... almost killed him again.

sun tzu

01-03-2009, 02:02 PM

Yeah I don't think they even touched him. They basically sent him flying with strong gust of wind.

Well, Apachai displayed his usual lack of self-control.

darksaint124

01-03-2009, 10:32 PM

Well, Apachai displayed his usual lack of self-control.

LOL. That is Apachai using self control.

Len Ikari145

01-04-2009, 08:39 AM

You murderers! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ6je7YHK7E&feature=PlayList&p=2440424F598A4F3A&index=40):tongue:

This is one of my favorites/

Lonewolf 5

01-09-2009, 12:57 AM

New chapter out. It looks like something interesting's going to happen.

darksaint124

01-09-2009, 01:28 AM

New chapter out. It looks like something interesting's going to happen.

I didn't see the end of that chapter coming at all.

Len Ikari145

01-09-2009, 02:17 AM

New chapter out. It looks like something interesting's going to happen.

Those who've been complaining about the gradual progression of the relationship (not me!), may finally see the big push forward that they've been hoping for.

Nik Hasta

01-09-2009, 05:02 AM

darksaint124

01-09-2009, 06:16 AM

FistofIron

01-09-2009, 06:46 AM

This was a good chapter and I'm glad Takeda has gotten stronger. However I think Takeda should've kept his mouth shut.:evilsmile:

Len Ikari145

01-09-2009, 10:03 AM

LAME!

Another of the male cast madly in love with Miu! Dammit!

Come on!

I don't dislike Miu particularly but I feel she gets far too much romantic attention these days. Kenichi is a given, Shou was interesting and creepy, but Takeda as well? Where did that come from? Why can't Takeda be interested in Renka or something?

I repeat; lame.

Uh, Nik? This isn't new. His crush on Miu hasn't been a secret since the Ragnarok arc and he confessed to Shou that he liked Miu the first time they fought.

Besides, look at Kenichi. Miu's a given, then there's Yumi, Renka(though there's a minute possibility her attentions may shift to Takeda), SPARK, and Rachel. It's a two-way street here.

Nik Hasta

01-09-2009, 11:08 AM

Takeda always liked Miu, this isn't anything new

Uh, Nik? This isn't new. His crush on Miu hasn't been a secret since the Ragnarok arc and he confessed to Shou that he liked Miu the first time they fought.

That's even more annoying.

Miu doesn't need more men vying for her affections.

Besides, look at Kenichi. Miu's a given, then there's Yumi, Renka(though there's a minute possibility her attentions may shift to Takeda), SPARK, and Rachel. It's a two-way street here.

I find that equally annoying, it's just that all said crushes occured before this thread existed as far as I can recall. I'd be happy if Kenichi fancied Miu and had the unrequited affections of that gardening chick at his school eventually leading him to choose between the two.

That'd be interesting. Would he choose the smooth, elegent, perfect, martial artist prodigy he has come to know and love or would he choose the awkward, normal, somewhat cowardly, plant-lover that is oh-so similar to him at the beginning of this story?

Renka, Spark, Rachel, the rest of them are all annoyingly pointless in the grand scheme of things.

darksaint124

01-09-2009, 11:57 AM

Nik Hasta

01-09-2009, 12:06 PM

This is a typical shounen. There will never be a choice. It will end without any romance what-so-ever. Look at Hajime no Ippo, almost 900 chapters and still no romance even though it is heavily implied.

You what?

The development of Kumi and Ippo's relationship, while intensely slow has been much better handled than Miu and Kenichi's. There are still mitigating reasons why they haven't hooked up yet; every attempt they've made has been interupted by one thing or another and there's the whole issue with Ryo hating Ippo.

Considering there is nothing impeding either Kenichi or Miu from asking the other out and they've been through much more emotional stress that would cause them to become closer but neither does anything.

For a further point, Ippo and Kumi's relationship is not central to the plot, boxing is. Whereas Miu and Kenichi's relationship is the primary drive for Kenichi to want to become strong at all and one of the central premises of the piece.

sun tzu

01-09-2009, 12:11 PM

Takeda's crush on Miu was there very early on - it was just never shown to be very deep, is all.
But yeah, I can see the annoyance. Lots of things I love about HSDK, but it's handling of romantic relationships feels clumsy.

darksaint124

01-09-2009, 01:47 PM

You what?

The development of Kumi and Ippo's relationship, while intensely slow has been much better handled than Miu and Kenichi's. There are still mitigating reasons why they haven't hooked up yet; every attempt they've made has been interupted by one thing or another and there's the whole issue with Ryo hating Ippo.

Considering there is nothing impeding either Kenichi or Miu from asking the other out and they've been through much more emotional stress that would cause them to become closer but neither does anything.

For a further point, Ippo and Kumi's relationship is not central to the plot, boxing is. Whereas Miu and Kenichi's relationship is the primary drive for Kenichi to want to become strong at all and one of the central premises of the piece.

I cannot agree. Kumi and Ippo have known each other for years now. In story they are like 22 now. What stops them is that Ippo doesn't have the balls, Kumi has thrown him enough hints and he's a grown man. Ippo is the next 40 year old virgin.

Kenichi/Miu have only progressed 1 year in story time and are 15(?) It is a given that Kenichi will be with Miu, but it is still typical shounen nonsense. We will probably never see Kenichi with Miu, but it will always be heavily implied.

Dark Soul # 7

01-09-2009, 02:14 PM

Am I the only one who's guessing that Takeda's just pushing Kenichi's buttons to make hims stop holding back just because they're friends?

FistofIron

01-09-2009, 02:22 PM

Am I the only one who's guessing that Takeda's just pushing Kenichi's buttons to make hims stop holding back just because they're friends?

That's what I was thinking. If you read what he said a few pages earlier its obvious he's just trying to push Kenichi.

Len Ikari145

01-09-2009, 06:26 PM

Am I the only one who's guessing that Takeda's just pushing Kenichi's buttons to make hims stop holding back just because they're friends?

Nope, that was obvious.

Nik Hasta

01-09-2009, 07:13 PM

I cannot agree. Kumi and Ippo have known each other for years now. In story they are like 22 now. What stops them is that Ippo doesn't have the balls, Kumi has thrown him enough hints and he's a grown man. Ippo is the next 40 year old virgin.

Not so. Granted Ippo is very nervous of women, being quite emotionally stunted in his way, but both have tried to make progress on their relationship. Ippo's tried on multiple occasions to tell her that he loves her.

Also that still doesn't change the fact that Ippo's personal relationships are not the main drive of the manga, his boxing career is.

Kenichi/Miu have only progressed 1 year in story time and are 15(?) It is a given that Kenichi will be with Miu, but it is still typical shounen nonsense. We will probably never see Kenichi with Miu, but it will always be heavily implied.

I just don't see any reason for them not to have even confronted the issue since it's blatantly obvious how Kenichi feels and it's even more obvious that Miu gets jealous everytime Renka (Or whichever random martial arts orientated female it happens to be) shows overt interest in him.

There's been no reason for them not have confronted the issue by now and Kenichi's relationship with Miu is one of the central themes of the manga. If Miu was less obviously interested then the relationship moving this slowly would make sense but since they both obviously care for each other a huge amount and are together every day I see no real reason why this subject hasn't come up yet.

I feel that the progression of relationships in Hajime no Ippo has been handled much better than those in HSDK. Though that is not to say that HnI is an example of stellar relationship writing, it's good and fun but ultimately secondary to the main boxing action so it isn't as good as say; Love Hina.

Deskad

01-09-2009, 08:53 PM

Like I said, this gynophobia exhibited by many of the male leads in shonen series is one of the few things that tends to piss me off in manga.

That said, Takeda and Kenichi's fight is frickin awesome. Makes one wonder if Natsumoto will join in, seeing as he too is a rival to Kenichi.

darksaint124

01-09-2009, 11:41 PM

Like I said, this gynophobia exhibited by many of the male leads in shonen series is one of the few things that tends to piss me off in manga.

QFT

It is a standard in shounen for relationships to be stagnant even though they blatantly obvious, probably one of the reasons I like Air Gear so much is that it breaks down a lot of those archetypes.

i.e. Male lead with no talent/confidence and has some sort of fear that has to do with women or delinquents, women suck men rock(at least it's getting less and less in the manga world now, just don't tell that to Bleach/Naruto) There's a lot more, but this is about HSDK/HnI.

Dark Soul # 7

01-14-2009, 03:54 PM

New chapter is out.

Kenichi finally gets serious and lays on some ass-whupping.

But Takeda still has an ace up his sleave. A pretty damn impressive ace at that.

master of read

01-14-2009, 04:03 PM

New chapter is out.

Kenichi finally gets serious and lays on some ass-whupping.

But Takeda still has an ace up his sleave. A pretty damn impressive ace at that.

damn right. to think takeda could do that move. due to this, where would you rank him now in the SA?

Dark Soul # 7

01-14-2009, 04:04 PM

damn right. to think takeda could do that move. due to this, where would you rank him now in the SA?Definately at the top which I now consider a struggle between him, Kenichi, Siegfried and Hermit.

FistofIron

01-14-2009, 04:26 PM

The new chapter was awesome I just love Takeda's boxing style. I'm happy that Kenichi got serious started going to work and now I can't wait for the next chap. Seeing how much Takeda has improved I can only wonder how hardcore a fighter James Shiba is. Maybe James and Akisame will have a match some day.

Deskad

01-14-2009, 06:12 PM

Kusanagi

01-14-2009, 07:48 PM

Takeda's definitely gotten a serious upgrade, as would expect from actually training with a master. Still to pick up Sei and actually give a damn good fight after Kenichi got real serious is awesome.

Len Ikari145

01-14-2009, 08:31 PM

Takeda's definitely gotten a serious upgrade, as would expect from actually training with a master. Still to pick up Sei and actually give a damn good fight after Kenichi got real serious is awesome.

Yup, that's what I love about Kenichi. Unlike most shounen manga, His rivals never fall behind him in skill or power. Damn, I still can't believe that Takeda can use Ryuusei Seikuuken(or at least a close variation). Hopefully, Kenichi's greater experience with the tech will give him the edge he needs to win.

Y'know, if this becomes pattern where Kenichi fights his old adversaries-turned-friends with their improved fighting techniques, I have to say that the hypothetical Hermit vs Kenichi rematch is going to be sick.:eek:

master of read

01-14-2009, 11:11 PM

Yup, that's what I love about Kenichi. Unlike most shounen manga, His rivals never fall behind him in skill or power. Damn, I still can't believe that Takeda can use Ryuusei Seikuuken(or at least a close variation). Hopefully, Kenichi's greater experience with the tech will give him the edge he needs to win.

Y'know, if this becomes pattern where Kenichi fights his old adversaries-turned-friends with their improved fighting techniques, I have to say that the hypothetical Hermit vs Kenichi rematch is going to be sick.:eek:

the only one who's falling behind is ukita but only cause he hasnt found a master.

Nik Hasta

01-15-2009, 04:26 AM

sun tzu

01-15-2009, 05:19 AM

Bleh, I'm kind of annoyed again.

I would have preferred it if Takeda had come up with his own techniques rather than still both of Kenichi's best ones. It just robs him of some of his own coolness.

If it had been a technique other than Seikuken, I'd agree...But I always perceived the Seikuken less as a technique than an approach to defense.

darksaint124

01-15-2009, 08:32 AM

Bleh, I'm kind of annoyed again.

I would have preferred it if Takeda had come up with his own techniques rather than still both of Kenichi's best ones. It just robs him of some of his own coolness.

Beyond that; an okay chapter, I predict a double KO.

Seikuken isn't Kenichi's technique though. All high level Sei users with a master class trainer should be able to use it.

I think it will be used a little different than Kenichi's though, more focus on weaving and dodging instead of deflecting attacks.

Dark Soul # 7

01-15-2009, 10:14 AM

Seikuken isn't Kenichi's technique though. All high level Sei users with a master class trainer should be able to use it.But this isn't just seikuken, it's Ryuusei Seikuken. Which is quite a bit tricker to learn I'd think.

master of read

01-15-2009, 01:10 PM

But this isn't just seikuken, it's Ryuusei Seikuken. Which is quite a bit tricker to learn I'd think.

it is. the regular seikuken has a large area around the user. the ryuusei seikuken shrinks that area down to the skin. even odin couldnt do it.

Dark Soul # 7

01-15-2009, 02:10 PM

You know what I'd like to see after this?

Yomi, or at least a few of their members, attacking the Shinpaku Alliance. It's high time we got some sort of confrontation between the two groups.

Len Ikari145

01-17-2009, 05:02 PM

You know what I'd like to see after this?

Yomi, or at least a few of their members, attacking the Shinpaku Alliance. It's high time we got some sort of confrontation between the two groups.

We might just see that sometime in the near future. After all, Tirawit did threaten most of Shinpaku's top fighters with death if they refused to comply with their wishes to join Yomi.

Dark Soul # 7

01-22-2009, 10:18 AM

New chapter is out and we have a winner! It was a good fight.

I have to say that I love Honoka on this (http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/321/07/) page.
We might just see that sometime in the near future. After all, Tirawit did threaten most of Shinpaku's top fighters with death if they refused to comply with their wishes to join Yomi.Hope so, I don't want Kenichi to be greedy and take them all down by himself.

Len Ikari145

01-22-2009, 11:46 AM

Nik Hasta

01-22-2009, 12:37 PM

Huh, that was a little anti-climactic.

Still not bad, seems Takeda has a glass jaw, or more in this case sternum.

FistofIron

01-22-2009, 02:12 PM

Huh, that was a little anti-climactic.

Still not bad, seems Takeda has a glass jaw, or more in this case sternum.

I don't think he's weak to damage Kenichi just crazy strong.

I can't wait until the next chapter. It's mustache shaving time.:biggrin:

Dark Soul # 7

01-22-2009, 02:19 PM

Yeah, I didn't know Apachai was like her personal kill-bot. Crap, Apachai really *is* a pokemon.:eek:And Honoka didn't even need a pokeball. She's that awesome.:biggrin:

FistofIron

01-28-2009, 09:37 PM

New chapters out and it was cool. It appears things are getting back on track seeing as how Rachel is about to take action.

Also I love James leg brace escape.

Dark Soul # 7

01-29-2009, 07:02 AM

Neat little chapter. Seems like there was a little bit of colum A and colum B in what Takeda said to Kenichi during the fight.

So, is Rachel supposed to go after Kenichi or Miu? Either way, she'll probably bring her brother.

As I said before I was hoping that Rachel and Siegfried would have a martial arts in front of a large crowd so that they could compete for the public's affections.

FistofIron

02-04-2009, 05:15 PM

New chapters out and I'm rather suprised. I really didn't expect a Ma and Renka team-up. I can't wait to see them fight Rachel and Diego.

Deskad

02-04-2009, 05:56 PM

I really didn't expect a Ma and Renka team-up.

Well, seeing as they're father and daughter, it actually makes a lot of sense.

Nik Hasta

02-04-2009, 05:57 PM

Looking forward to this arc.

Kensei has been a little out of action compared to the other masters of late.

Him and Renka teaming up should be cool.

Also Deigo is awesome!

FistofIron

02-04-2009, 06:11 PM

Well, seeing as they're father and daughter, it actually makes a lot of sense.

It makes since but I didn't expect them to take on Rachel and Diego. I thought it would be Miu and one of the other masters.

Deskad

02-04-2009, 08:39 PM

It makes since but I didn't expect them to take on Rachel and Diego. I thought it would be Miu and one of the other masters.

True..

Personally, I see it as a good job aon the author's part to not make the manga too Kenichi/Miu centric. Overfocus on the main character is one thing that HSDK seems to avoid for the most part.

Aubergine~!

02-05-2009, 03:23 AM

Is it wrong that I want Diego to become the main character now?

Dark Soul # 7

02-05-2009, 09:35 AM

Neat set up chapter.

Finally we will get to see what a masked wrestling can really do, in the world of HSDK that is. I'm especially interested in seeing what a master class masked wrestler can do.

Besides breaking the fourth wall that is.Kensei has been a little out of action compared to the other masters of late.I think it's because he got more action than the others earlier in the series.

FistofIron

02-11-2009, 05:02 PM

I just read the new chap and watching Rachel work is a thing of beauty.:biggrin:

Dark Soul # 7

02-19-2009, 09:44 AM

New chapter up.

Nothing spectacular. The rivalry between Renka and Rachel is set up and finally Kenichi has learned how to do those uber jumps. Oh, and Spark is back.

Dark Soul # 7

02-25-2009, 03:07 PM

New chapter up.

Spark and Kenichi get to work together on this one, leave some girls to the other guys dude.

And the Ryozanpaku/Yomi Master & Disciple tag team match begins with a weird match up but the chapter ends with the highest level fight on the boat.

FistofIron

02-28-2009, 07:15 AM

I can't wait until the next chap to see Ma and Diego go at it. Did anyone catch Diego's speed feat?

FistofIron

03-05-2009, 07:56 PM

The fight between Ma and Diego has started and so far so good.

Dark Soul # 7

03-06-2009, 01:50 AM

Good beginning of a master level fight. And the overall situation is getting more problematic as well.

I'm beginning to prefer Raichi as a possible girlfriend for Kenichi. Won't happen, but I like her.

Nik Hasta

03-06-2009, 07:29 AM

Is it wrong that I kind of want Deigo to win?

sun tzu

03-06-2009, 01:38 PM

Is it wrong that I kind of want Deigo to win?

Yes, it is wrong, you evil ninja you.

Eternal Torment

03-11-2009, 03:17 PM

If the fanservice continues, Kensei just might lose this match. :tongue:

master of read

03-11-2009, 03:35 PM

max: hey everyone. max kamiya here. i'll be speaking for MOR since he's in a fanserviced induced dazed right now.

MOR: rachel.......boobs.......ass........

max: he says the fight between rachel and rinka was very well drawn and skillful.

MOR: boobs..............boobs.........ass and titties......

max: he also says that of course ma wouldnt be effected by his daughter's boobs and it was very cunning of him to attack deigo at that moment.

MOR: boobs...............in my................new pants.............BROMSKY!!!

max:...................................even i dont know what the hell he just said.

Eternal Torment

03-11-2009, 03:37 PM

Diego Carlo is pretty damn awesome. That's the only way I can put it.

Nik Hasta

03-11-2009, 06:09 PM

Bleh, bloody fanservice.

The cover was just ridiculous, Renka and Rachel went up by about three cup sizes.

Other than that... yeah.. not much to speak of.

I suppose it doesn't help that I read this chapter immediatly after the new Hajime no Ippo chapter, which was amazing!

FistofIron

03-11-2009, 07:18 PM

Now that was a great chapter.:biggrin:

Dark Soul # 7

03-13-2009, 12:38 PM

Fan-service aside, did you expect anything else from Rachel vs. Renka?, I liked this chapter. The fights were after all pretty damn cool.

Len Ikari145

03-19-2009, 11:10 PM

Holy crap....Ma Kensei was pissed.:eek:

Even worse, Diego finally takes off his mask and is ready to get serious.

Eternal Torment

03-20-2009, 06:58 AM

Holy crap....Ma Kensei was pissed.:eek:

Even worse, Diego finally takes off his mask and is ready to get serious.

I'm guessing he has at least three more masks underneath the "Angry" one.

FistofIron

03-31-2009, 11:24 AM

Just read the new chapter and Ma's breaking out the techs.:biggrin:

master of read

04-01-2009, 01:13 AM

deigo is a monster! to think he would push kensei to go all out. now this is a master battle!

sun tzu

04-01-2009, 03:28 AM

And apparently Kenichi has yet another fangirl. Can't say I like this development, but in her case at least I can see why she'd swoon over him.

Dark Soul # 7

04-01-2009, 11:46 AM

And apparently Kenichi has yet another fangirl. Can't say I like this development, but in her case at least I can see why she'd swoon over him.Ehm, she's Raichi's been infatuated with him ever since they first met. Though I have to say that so far she's my favorite of his harem. And hey, at least it's understandable to a certain level. He's a nice and strong guy, what's not to like really?

I think that this master fight is my favorite so far. Kensei and Diego just have such different styles compared to the previous master battles where the the two sides often where sort of similar.

Eternal Torment

04-07-2009, 04:27 PM

At this point, YAMI has lost this battle. Even if Mikado were to show up now, she (along with Diego and Rachel) can't win. The best they can do is try to escape, and even that's a near impossibility. Looks like it's the end of the line for the Smiling Steel Fist and his disciple.

Dark Soul # 7

04-09-2009, 01:06 AM

...he ran from Japan to international waters?

Man, the old dude is awesome.

Nik Hasta

04-09-2009, 04:14 AM

...he ran from Japan to international waters?

Man, the old dude is awesome.

For those who don't know International waters start 225 miles away from the nearest coastline. So the Old Man ran a minimum of 225 miles in... well what...? 10 minutes or so?

FistofIron

04-09-2009, 04:25 PM

Hayato is such a beast.

FistofIron

04-14-2009, 06:35 AM

The fight between Ma and Diego has finally ended and I must say it was very underwhelming. It was an ok fight and I thought the style match-up was cool but compared to the other master level fights it was rather weak. I hope the next one gets back on track.

I love Rachel!!!!!!!!!

FistofIron

04-23-2009, 05:54 PM

I just read the new Kenichi chap and that hot jujitsu chick owns. I wonder which one of the masters will get to fight her?

Len Ikari145

04-23-2009, 06:00 PM

I just read the new Kenichi chap and that hot jujitsu chick owns. I wonder which one of the masters will get to fight her?

Probably Sakaki. He hasn't fought a Master from Yomi since Christopher(which was almost 200 chapters ago).

FistofIron

04-23-2009, 06:09 PM

Probably Sakaki. He hasn't fought a Master from Yomi since Christopher(which was almost 200 chapters ago).

Yeah he does need another fight. I bet he'll fight that Shou's master eventually. I knida wanna see Ma fight the jujitsu chick for obvious reasons.:evilsmile:

Nik Hasta

04-23-2009, 06:30 PM

I just read the new Kenichi chap and that hot jujitsu chick owns. I wonder which one of the masters will get to fight her?

Actually judging from the way she toyed with Kensei, I could see her throwing down with Hayato "The Invincible Superman," Furinji.

That'd be fun.

And of course more Apachai.

FistofIron

04-23-2009, 06:43 PM

Actually judging from the way she toyed with Kensei, I could see her throwing down with Hayato "The Invincible Superman," Furinji.

That'd be fun.

And of course more Apachai.

I know she toyed with him I just want to see Ma be his usual pervert self.:biggrin:

Eternal Torment

04-23-2009, 06:49 PM

Mikumo's a beast. Lifting Diego up with one hand and tossing him into the ocean, making Kensei chase shadows, tossing Castor around without direct hand contact and even evading an attack from Hayato while carrying Rachel.

FistofIron

04-23-2009, 06:52 PM

Eternal Torment

04-23-2009, 07:23 PM

I can't wait to see more of her. Hell I can't wait to see more of Yami and Yomi period.

I wonder which of the Nine Fists we'll get to see in action next. Hopefully, Silcardo shows up to fight.

FistofIron

04-23-2009, 07:35 PM

I wonder which of the Nine Fists we'll get to see in action next. Hopefully, Silcardo shows up to fight.

Yeah Miu said he gave Hayato a hard fight so he has to be insanely strong. I want to know how powerful Saiga is but it'll probably be awhile before we find that out. Maybe Ogata will get more screen time soon.

Len Ikari145

04-23-2009, 07:47 PM

Actually judging from the way she toyed with Kensei, I could see her throwing down with Hayato "The Invincible Superman," Furinji.

That'd be fun.

And of course more Apachai.

It almost frightens me to imagine how powerful Saiga is.

And am I the only starting to think that the series is evolving from RK power levels to early One Piece?

FistofIron

04-23-2009, 07:56 PM

It almost frightens me to imagine how powerful Saiga is.

And am I the only starting to think that the series is evolving from RK power levels to early One Piece?

They're moving away from RK power levels. Just look at the Akisame vs Alexander fight.

Dark Soul # 7

05-02-2009, 11:31 AM

I'd like to see Shigure take on Mikumo simply because she's fought the least and it would be fun to see one of the masters as the underdog.

New chapter is out and it seems like Kenichi's next opponent is the worst type he could face.

FistofIron

05-03-2009, 05:53 PM

Len Ikari145

05-08-2009, 10:37 AM

Yeah I'd like to see Shigure throw down some more.

I wonder if the reason that Shigure sees less action is because she's the most potentially "lethal" of all the masters (due to being a weapon master who commonly uses swords, kunai, etc).

FistofIron

05-08-2009, 08:23 PM

I wonder if the reason that Shigure sees less action is because she's the most potentially "lethal" of all the masters (due to being a weapon master who commonly uses swords, kunai, etc).

Yeah thats probably it.

Dark Soul # 7

05-12-2009, 03:41 PM

New chapter is out and it is the best one in weeks if you ask me.

Kushinada is probably my second favorite character with this chapter.

Nijima saves the day, awesome.

Eternal Torment

05-12-2009, 03:44 PM

New chapter is out and it is the best one in weeks if you ask me.

Kushinada is probably my second favorite character with this chapter.

Nijima saves the day, awesome.

Unfortunately, Mikumo saw her at the party.

Bad things are about to happen to good people.

Nik Hasta

05-19-2009, 05:30 AM

Oh now I am looking forward to the next chapter.

Pollux and Kenichi having coffee? Hell yes!

penguin-in-leather-jacket

05-23-2009, 06:40 AM

this is one of my favorite series; I look forward to it every week.

Oh now I am looking forward to the next chapter.

Pollux and Kenichi having coffee? Hell yes!

tea. well, Ken might be drinking coffee, considering he has a mug, but Ethan (Pollux) definitely ordered tea.

still intensely curious about what Ethan's style is, especially now that the person it must be presumed is his master has been revealed. what styles are native to India? (Cyril Rahman is a very Indian name)

FistofIron

05-25-2009, 05:39 PM

The new chap is out and it was pretty good.

We got to find out a little about Ethan and we also got a brief action scene with Kajima.

Kenichi's last lines at the end of the chap were badass.:biggrin:

Dark Soul # 7

05-26-2009, 03:27 AM

I like Ethan. He's now the third Yomi memeber who I didnt' want to be run over by car after speaking.

A rather interesting chapter overall. I wonder what Ethan will do to answer Kenichi now.

FistofIron

06-17-2009, 09:34 AM

Chap 341 one is out and it was very amusing.

Little_Mac

06-17-2009, 11:42 AM

After seeing this chapter, I'm very curious to see where they will be fighting. Ethan looks like an "terrain doesn't matter to me" fighter, hence the extensive work on Kenichi balance.

I wonder if it will be a forest, jungle gym or a construction site.

Dark Soul # 7

07-14-2009, 02:14 PM

I really enjoyed the latest chapter. It was just funny and put some major progress on the plot.

And look who's back, there's two of them.

A shilouetted Berseker and GARYUU X!

penguin-in-leather-jacket

07-14-2009, 04:16 PM

Kenichi alone now apparently rates 0.0001%, or one one-millionth, of Hayato's power. this is half as much as Hayato used when Kenichi and Miu fought him together in the D of D, and that level (0.0002%, or 1/500,000th) was frankly way too much for them. so it looks like Kenichi has probably improved a great deal since the D of D, though he still has a long long long long long way to go.

it's also interesting that Silcardo and maybe Akira are thinking about taking Rachel as a disciple since she lost her master and neither of those masters has a disciple at the moment. Rachel must be really good for the Nine Fist members to think disposing of her would be a waste.

sun tzu

07-15-2009, 03:53 AM

'bout freaking time Berserker returned. I wonder how seriously he's been taking the "effort trumps talent" lesson...
After all, a prodigy like Berserker getting serious training from someone from Yami sounds like a quick recipe for a master-class martial artist.:eek:

Kusanagi

07-15-2009, 04:42 PM

I was rereading the Ragnarok story arc this week, and my first question was where did Berserker get too. Bout time my question was answered, they didn't even need to bother with the shadow, there can't be two guys with that hairstyle :biggrin:

Eternal Torment

07-17-2009, 06:38 PM

It's also interesting that Silcardo and maybe Akira are thinking about taking Rachel as a disciple since she lost her master and neither of those masters has a disciple at the moment. Rachel must be really good for the Nine Fist members to think disposing of her would be a waste.

I can't see her abandoning Diego's teachings, even if two of the Nine Fists want her as a disciple.

Dark Soul # 7

07-25-2009, 07:35 AM

I just watched a few of the dubbed episodes and they're really good.

The voices for Kenichi, Nijima and Sakaki are perfect. Appachai's might take some getting used to. Everybody else is good as well.

Kevin M.

07-28-2009, 12:27 PM

I'm going to drop this series.

Just can't really get into it, and just don't like the characters.

(Save Appachai)

FistofIron

07-29-2009, 06:17 AM

The new chapter is out and Ethan is pretty cool. I really like his fighting style. I can't wait until the next chapter so I can find out why Kenichi was smiling.

Dark Soul # 7

07-29-2009, 06:30 AM

The new chapter is out and Ethan is pretty cool. I really like his fighting style. I can't wait until the next chapter so I can find out why Kenichi was smiling.I enjoyed the interaction between Hayato and Mikumo the msot in this chapter.

But I still hope that these two don't fight. I want Shigure to take down Mikumo.

FistofIron

07-29-2009, 06:32 AM

I enjoyed the interaction between Hayato and Mikumo the msot in this chapter.

But I still hope that these two don't fight. I want Shigure to take down Mikumo.

Yeah the interaction between Hayato and Mikumo was rather cool. I like that Hayato laughed when Mikumo said Kenichi would lose.

FistofIron

08-05-2009, 06:07 AM

The fight between Kenichi and Ethan is pretty cool so far. I'm curious to see what Kenichi's new Technique is.

sun tzu

08-06-2009, 04:14 AM

I'm loving this chapter. Both showing how far Kenichi's come, and the emotional effects on Chikage.

FistofIron

08-12-2009, 08:32 AM

This chapter was cool. Kenichi is a badass. I can't wait until the next chapter when they go to rescue Rachel.

Dark Soul # 7

08-12-2009, 11:07 AM

Not bad by Kenichi. Defeating one of Yami's members that quickly, despite taking a few bad hits, shows how far he's gone.

And now it's time for the masters to go wild again.

FistofIron

08-25-2009, 11:57 AM

Chapter 350 is out and man was it good to see Sakaki cut loose again.

Dark Soul # 7

08-25-2009, 12:04 PM

Yeah, Sakaki kicks ass in this chapter.

This page (http://www.onemanga.com/Historys_Strongest_Disciple_Kenichi/350/16/) is made of win.:biggrin:

FistofIron

08-25-2009, 12:12 PM

You have no idea how hard that made me laugh.:tongue:

FistofIron

09-01-2009, 12:15 PM

Next chapter should prove very interesting.

Nik Hasta

09-01-2009, 12:56 PM

Next chapter should prove very interesting.

Damn.

Of the Stanley siblings I would have preferred Ethan to stay behind, he was cool, used an interesting style and actually seemed effected by his implied tragic upbringing. I wouldn't have minded having both of them because Ethan offsets Rachael nicely between their two characters. But no! We get stuck with just Rahcael. Another annoying fanservice character to fawn over Kenichi and drive the series closer to the harem end of the Shonen spectrum.

Reading HSDK is a mish-mash of good points and really annoying points.

sun tzu

09-02-2009, 04:53 AM

Yeah, mostly agreed there.

Dark Soul # 7

09-08-2009, 08:01 AM

Hey, a story arc that will focus on Tanimoto/Hermit.

Awesome.:biggrin:

sun tzu

09-08-2009, 08:04 AM

Ma Sougetsu as Yami?
Hermit as (unwitting?) Yomi?
Holy crap. :eek:

FistofIron

09-08-2009, 09:33 AM

Ma Sougetsu as Yami?
Hermit as (unwitting?) Yomi?
Holy crap. :eek:

Yeah dude I didn't see that coming. Maybe we'll get a rematch between Sougetsu and Ma.

Dark Soul # 7

09-08-2009, 09:40 AM

Yeah dude I didn't see that coming. Maybe we'll get a rematch between Sougetsu and Ma.Hm, that fills me with little exitement.

You know what I'd like to see? A large brawl between maybe three of the Yami masters and three of the Ryozanpaku masters.

master of read

09-08-2009, 01:08 PM

gotta admit, i didnt see that coming. does hermit know that his master is a member of the group he's been fighting?

sun tzu

09-08-2009, 01:24 PM

gotta admit, i didnt see that coming. does hermit know that his master is a member of the group he's been fighting?

I don't remember Hermit ever putting much effort into fighting Yomi and Yami.
(He did play an important role in the battle against Fortuna, but I don't think Fortuna was a member of Yami so much as a business partner...)

FistofIron

09-08-2009, 05:56 PM

Hm, that fills me with little exitement.

You know what I'd like to see? A large brawl between maybe three of the Yami masters and three of the Ryozanpaku masters.

That would be rather interesting. I'm ready to see more of Yami in action. When the hell is Saiga gonna show up dammit!!!!!!!!!:mad:

sun tzu

09-10-2009, 10:49 AM

So, I decided to check out Tatakae Ryouzanpaku Shijou Saikyou No Deshi (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/tatakae_ryouzanpaku_shijou_saikyou_no_deshi/), the manga that HSDK is a retelling of.
It's...Interesting. Gives an idea where certain parts of the new manga and anime come from...
...Buuuut, the author has very clearly improved since then. TRSSD isn't bad, but it's not all that good, especially compared to HSDK.

Len Ikari145

09-10-2009, 11:15 AM

That would be rather interesting. I'm ready to see more of Yami in action. When the hell is Saiga gonna show up dammit!!!!!!!!!:mad:

Probably once Kenichi hits Master-level. Seriously, I don't see the manga revealing his face until near the climax.

Nik Hasta

09-17-2009, 04:50 AM

FistofIron

09-17-2009, 04:52 AM

I was wondering when the other hooded Yomi member was going to show up. I hope him and Tanimoto have an awesome fight.

sun tzu

09-17-2009, 06:47 AM

Well, well. It seems we have the making of an interesting arc here.

I am still annoyed by the presence of Rachel. And of Renka. This is not going to be a harem manga dammit.

Bring back Ethan! Hell, bring back Freya, have a badass female character who has no interested in Kenichi at all. And give Kisara some screentime.

Agreed on all fronts.
I generally love the characters in this comic, but Renka is one of the few that I wish had never existed in the first place. Rachel ain't much better.

FistofIron

09-30-2009, 03:38 PM

New chapter is out and Tanimoto is getting some nice panel time.

FistofIron

10-05-2009, 04:40 PM

Tanimoto just won his fight. Now its time to see if he'll join Yomi or not.

Dark Soul # 7

10-13-2009, 11:37 AM

Best chapter in months I'd say.

I love Honoka, Kenichi's parents and Chikage in this chapter.

And Kisara's deadpan "This is hard to walk in." just made me smile.

And damn, what a cliffhanger. This arc is really shaping up.

sun tzu

10-20-2009, 05:18 PM

New chapter. Oddly enough, I find it even more ominous than the last few.
...and man, I have such a hard time recognizing Siegfried without his hat. :eek:

Dark Soul # 7

10-21-2009, 10:37 AM

With this chapter I join the group of people who wishes that Ethan had stayed instead of Rachel.

Also, this chapter had made me realise how much I miss Siegfried fighting.

sun tzu

10-21-2009, 12:26 PM

With this chapter I join the group of people who wishes that Ethan had stayed instead of Rachel.

Really? While I am part of that group, that's actually the most sympathetic I've seen her be to date.
Which isn't saying much.

FistofIron

10-27-2009, 06:04 AM

New chapter is out and this should be an awesome arc.

Dark Soul # 7

10-27-2009, 10:08 AM

New chapter is out and this should be an awesome arc.Agreed. Hopefully with lots and lots of Shigure action.

FistofIron

10-27-2009, 04:24 PM

Agreed. Hopefully with lots and lots of Shigure action.

Yeah dude she really needs to get to shine more.

It was nice to learn a bit more about Yami's weapon division. I always thought they were in service to the One Fist Nine Shaow but it seems thats not the case. I can't wait to see more badass weapon users.

Nik Hasta

11-02-2009, 07:24 PM

This chapter marks the beginning of what looks to be a fairly interesting story arc. We've got a lot of power players running around here as well as the Hermit problem to resolve.

Eternal Torment

11-09-2009, 06:02 PM

Now that Sai Kagerou has got a new sword, it looks like Sakaki will have his hands full.

Dark Soul # 7

11-09-2009, 09:48 PM

Now that Sai Kagerou has got a new sword, it looks like Sakaki will have his hands full.I will be so pissed if Shigure doesn't get in on that action.

Eternal Torment

11-10-2009, 02:39 PM

I will be so pissed if Shigure doesn't get in on that action.

That kukri wielding girl (who for some reason, looks vaguely like Rukia to me) is keeping her busy. As such, Sakaki may gain some speedfeats in the next chapter, if he can deal with the Man of Tsubanari effectively.

Dark Soul # 7

11-11-2009, 07:59 AM

That kukri wielding girl (who for some reason, looks vaguely like Rukia to me) is keeping her busy.So? Why can't she just redirect the fight so that she joins Sakaki, making it five against two? Why should Sakaki get all the main action while Shigure is stuck with one measly and nameless opponent?

Pong

11-13-2009, 02:44 PM

I just cached up with current chapter. Pretty cool manga :biggrin:

Man I wonder what Hermit is planing it seems weird that he joined Yomi and I doubt he did it just for kicks.

I hope this sword arc won't side-track him for another three dozens of chapters because this manga needs more Hermit. Every time he shows up badass'ery of the manga doubles :cool: .

Though there are two things that bother me sligthly:

-Hayato mentioned that there is one more Ryozanpaku master who wasn't revealed. I wonder who he is and when will he show up. Also what style does he uses ( my bet - Aikido)

-Yūka you know the flower girl, what's the point of her in this manga anyway?

She isn't funny or badass, she doesn't add anything to the storyline, doesn't say or do anything meaningful and anyone who's sane enough to form a coherent sentence and even skimmed through this manga knows that Kenichi will always choose Miu in a heartbeat so she isn't there to add any sort of "romantic tension" or anything like that.

Hell she doesn't even add any bloody fanservice (which this series is overflowing with) and compared to like all the other girls in this manga isn't even noticeable. Unless there is someone who has a thing for dorky looking girls in glasses. Which I guess exists, but come on that can't be a lar, profitabe demografic!

By the way i'ts not like I hate the girl (how could I? Se doesn't leave any lasting impression, good or bad) it's just that she's such a pointless character that's it's a waist of perfectly good paper to even draw her. It's not like it grows on trees or something...

>>

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Okaaaaaay It does... in a way. But that's all the more reason not to waist it like that. Trees have rigth to live too you know... Let's not cut more than we need to.

Eternal Torment

11-13-2009, 02:47 PM

So? Why can't she just redirect the fight so that she joins Sakaki, making it five against two? Why should Sakaki get all the main action while Shigure is stuck with one measly and nameless opponent?

Japan. That's the only reason.

Eternal Torment

11-17-2009, 08:25 PM

I do believe Shigure just got even more awesome than she was before.

Nik Hasta

11-18-2009, 04:01 AM

I do like the way Shigure's speed is represented.

It does suggest her as being on a different level to the other masters. (Except Hayato obviously)

Also a nice direction for the story with a technical heel/face turn.

Dark Soul # 7

11-18-2009, 04:05 AM

A good chapter. We continue with the one on one battles instead of just having Shigure take on one and Sakaki beat up everybody else. Good fights.

I'm really beginning to dig Sai Kagerou when he's like this. He's funny and interesting.

FistofIron

11-22-2009, 05:29 PM

New chapter is out and the rest of the Ryozanpaku masters have shown up. The next chapter should be awesome.

Dark Soul # 7

11-22-2009, 10:29 PM

Apachai: YAH-BAH-DAH-BAH-DOO!

Awesome.:cool:

Eternal Torment

12-21-2009, 08:35 PM

Holy shit, Mikumo's an absolute beast. If she was serious about fighting Sakaki and Shigure, I don't think they could've stood a chance against her.

Dark Soul # 7

12-21-2009, 10:43 PM

Yeay! I got a sample of the Shigure/Mikumo fight I've been wanting to see for awhile now.:biggrin:

Hopefully they'll be able to got at it more seriously later on.

FistofIron

12-22-2009, 08:40 AM

Holy shit, Mikumo's an absolute beast. If she was serious about fighting Sakaki and Shigure, I don't think they could've stood a chance against her.

Yeah man she was on a different level.

Nik Hasta

12-22-2009, 11:51 AM

I can now see why she used to hang out with the Elder.

Holy Spirit

12-22-2009, 12:09 PM

I can now see why she used to hang out with the Elder.

She strikes me as the most powerful Yomi master so far, the only one I can see as possibly more powerful within Yomi is Miu's father. When I saw her fight the Chinese master earlier I thought her technique was illusions based but now I see it's pure speed.......nice, I was looking forward to a speed based fighter!:smile:

Now I'm gonna but her against Batgirl!:evilsmile:

FistofIron

12-22-2009, 12:16 PM

She strikes me as the most powerful Yomi master so far, the only one I can see as possibly more powerful within Yomi is Miu's father. When I saw her fight the Chinese master earlier I thought her technique was illusions based but now I see it's pure speed.......nice, I was looking forward to a speed based fighter!:smile:

Now I'm gonna but her against Batgirl!:evilsmile:

I would think Miu's father is the leader for a reason.:tongue:

Holy Spirit

12-22-2009, 12:27 PM

I would think Miu's father is the leader for a reason.:tongue:

Indeed, but I knew she would be sweet form the moment I saw her, I love how broken her speed was she'll probably be the second strongest next to Miu's Father. It wouldn't surprise me if Miu's Father and Grandfather had an epic battle!

FistofIron

12-22-2009, 12:36 PM

Indeed, but I knew she would be sweet form the moment I saw her, I love how broken her speed was she'll probably be the second strongest next to Miu's Father. It wouldn't surprise me if Miu's Father and Grandfather had an epic battle!

Oh yeah I knew she was gonna be a kickass fighter. I figure some kind of confrontation between Miu's father and grandfather is a given. I hope they have an epic fight.

I really want to see some of the other Yami members in action.