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Cain Marko
11-29-2008, 06:08 PM
http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.6205.Archrivals~colon~_X-Men_vs_Juggernaut


My feelings are sort of mixed on this. I've liked the few Carey stories I've read. And like alot of what Carey says about the Juggernaut even better. But up until being kidnapped and temporarily replaced by an imposter a few years back, the Juggernaut had evolved into probably more of a Marvel Universe character than an X-verse one. He operated better in the main MU and his exploits hadn't centered around Xavier for about 30 years or so. I'm wary of seeing him become Xavier-centric again unless something dramatic happens. With the makeshift retcons by Chuck Austen to Cain and Xavier's relationship we aren't exactly sure where they stand at this point. Though they weren't friends the last time they parted and it seems much of Austen's alternate universe is (thankfully)being phased out and/or dismissed. I don't really care all that much whether Cain hates Xavier or not since that has long since ceased being a main aspect of the character. I just want something new and interesting with this plot if they're going to keep going to it. And short of Juggernaut killing or crippling Xavier I'm just not seeing what else can be done.

But having said that, I'm slowly but surely thinking this may be a good issue. The more Carey speaks the more spot on about the Juggernaut he sounds. And the preview images have sparked my curiousity.


When I first approached that story, I thought I knew how it'd turn out, but then I had this idea of "Actually, Juggernaut would probably do this, but then where would the story go?" And the story ended up very different from what I pitched because when I started writing the character, he probably wouldn't go along with Professor Xavier's program."


It's a Cain and Abel dynamic, and it's fascinating for that reason. In Genesis, Cain doesn't kill Abel until after God has rejected him publicly and rubbed his nose in the fact. Similarly, the root of the enmity between Charles Xavier and Cain Marko is the abusive and toxic relationship they both had with Cain's father. I prefer Juggernaut when he's irreconcilable: he's one character who - for me, anyway - works best outside the X-Men's big tent."


http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq303/Cain_Marko/Legacy219a.jpg

So while I'm skeptical about how much tread is left on the tires of the Cain/Xavier relationship, I'm curious to see what's coming in this issue. Carey sounds like he's actually read a Juggernaut story or two and is going to take that into account for his portrayal. That idea's so crazy it just might work...

HeckBoy
11-29-2008, 06:29 PM
Whatever happens, I just hope Juggs picks a side and sticks with it. I'm gettin a bit tired of the ambiguity.

gorthon616
11-29-2008, 06:49 PM
I'm interested. The art looks bad though. Carey seems like he has a good bead on things.

Cain Marko
11-29-2008, 07:01 PM
I'm wondering what makes the Juggernaut let Xavier and his skull out of that grip alive.

BobfromHR
11-29-2008, 07:56 PM
I'm wondering what makes the Juggernaut let Xavier and his skull out of that grip alive.

Screw that.....I gotta know what that box is now.


Someone tell me!!!

Joe Franklin
11-30-2008, 12:58 AM
The art looks bad though.

Yep.

Carey really got shafted when it comes to the artists drawing Legacy. Talk about boring generic art.

Seres
11-30-2008, 05:49 AM
Yep.

Carey really got shafted when it comes to the artists drawing Legacy. Talk about boring generic art.

This is Karmic Realignment for when Blinded By The Light had Ramos, Bachalo and Choi on art.

RafiShai
11-30-2008, 07:21 AM
Shouldn't Charlie X suffer like massive head injuries from the way Juggs is lifting/tossing him about? I mean, he's lifting him by his head. That's gotta hurt.

Monty_Cristo
12-01-2008, 06:11 PM
Juggernaut is prime Dark Avenger material, imo. he seems like he should be some villain team's answer to The Sentry.

GHalecki
12-02-2008, 08:56 AM
Juggernaut is prime Dark Avenger material, imo. he seems like he should be some villain team's answer to The Sentry.

Very good point, except we still aren't really sure WHAT the Dark Avengers are going to be or do.

But I agree that he is the kind of talent that every villian mastermind out there should be lining up to sign to a long term deal. He is one of the only forces out there that you could throw against any team out there, alone, and have him give them a major hard time, if not beat outright.

Dagger
12-02-2008, 10:12 AM
Screw that.....I gotta know what that box is now.


Someone tell me!!!
It's a puzzle box from Hellraiser.

Anna
12-02-2008, 10:17 AM
Squeeze baby squeeze!

Kiden
12-02-2008, 10:19 AM
Maybe it's one of those box mazes with money in it!

Pixie_Solanas
12-02-2008, 11:27 AM
I'm interested. The art looks bad though. Carey seems like he has a good bead on things.

Please. The art's awesome.

Joe Franklin
12-02-2008, 12:36 PM
Please. The art's awesome.

If boring generic art is your cup of tea, you are correct.:wink:

tunasammiches
12-03-2008, 02:10 AM
If boring generic art is your cup of tea, you are correct.:wink:

Whaddaya talking about?? The art's amazing! The shadowing and figurework is dynamic as hell. I get totally engulfed in the story because of the art. I think it perfectly compliments Carey's tone.

tunasammiches
12-03-2008, 02:12 AM
If boring generic art is your cup of tea, you are correct.:wink:

Whaddaya talking about?? The art's amazing! The shadowing and figurework is dynamic as hell. I get totally engulfed in the story because of the art. I think it perfectly compliments Carey's tone.

BobfromHR
12-03-2008, 02:12 AM
It's a puzzle box from Hellraiser.

What is your pleasure?

BobfromHR
12-03-2008, 02:22 AM
It's a puzzle box from Hellraiser.

What is your pleasure?

tunasammiches
12-03-2008, 02:36 AM
If boring generic art is your cup of tea, you are correct.:wink:

No way. The art's amazing. I love how moody it is.