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Brandon Hanvey
11-21-2008, 11:26 AM
Being a mod at these boards for close to nine years, I've seen this time and time again. Someone posts about enjoying something and then someone comes along and basically rips into that person for liking it due to it being bad. I've even seen instances of people talking people out of liking something that gave them enjoyment.

Now I guess you can make a case that if someone is buying something you think is bad that it will encourage more of it to be made, but does that really effect you? You can always ignore things that you hate and turn to things that you enjoy that others may hate.

DoctorDoom
11-21-2008, 11:30 AM
Being a mod at these boards for close to nine years, I've seen this time and time again. Someone posts about enjoying something and then someone comes along and basically rips into that person for liking it due to it being bad. I've even seen instances of people talking people out of liking something that gave them enjoyment.

Now I guess you can make a case that if someone is buying something you think is bad that it will encourage more of it to be made, but does that really effect you? You can always ignore things that you hate and turn to things that you enjoy that others may hate.
Well stated. I've been wondering this myself.

o1pickleboy
11-21-2008, 11:50 AM
That case can be made for any opinion that someone cares to give. Reguardless of it being a postivie, negative or even neutral opinion. Some posters just comes into a thread to rip on someone. I am not talking about them coming in to add to the dicussion, but just posting to tear up the opinion of the starter. We get that alot around here.

StoneGold
11-21-2008, 12:02 PM
Oddly, I just did the opposite earlier today.

SUPERECWFAN1
11-21-2008, 01:17 PM
I've seen it done a lot....and yes I've done it in a mocking way. I guess its always our natures to rip each other on what we deem as crap . Never gonna change.

Mike Pothier
11-21-2008, 01:37 PM
This topic sucks, and you suck for making it.

Shellhead
11-21-2008, 01:57 PM
Being a mod at these boards for close to nine years, I've seen this time and time again. Someone posts about enjoying something and then someone comes along and basically rips into that person for liking it due to it being bad. I've even seen instances of people talking people out of liking something that gave them enjoyment.

Now I guess you can make a case that if someone is buying something you think is bad that it will encourage more of it to be made, but does that really effect you? You can always ignore things that you hate and turn to things that you enjoy that others may hate.

In general, your point makes sense. But in comics, it's sometimes a zero-sum game. For example, when lots of people like New Avengers, that's terrible news for me, because I personally think that Bendis is incapable of writing a good team book. With high sales, I can be sure that Bendis will continue writing New Avengers for years, and other writers that I prefer won't get a shot. Conversely, those same readers might be upset that Dan Slott will now be writing Mighty Avengers, because they preferred Bendis. I like Slott, so my happiness is at their expense.

Brandon Hanvey
11-21-2008, 02:04 PM
In general, your point makes sense. But in comics, it's sometimes a zero-sum game. For example, when lots of people like New Avengers, that's terrible news for me, because I personally think that Bendis is incapable of writing a good team book. With high sales, I can be sure that Bendis will continue writing New Avengers for years, and other writers that I prefer won't get a shot. Conversely, those same readers might be upset that Dan Slott will now be writing Mighty Avengers, because they preferred Bendis. I like Slott, so my happiness is at their expense.

I get that part. But why not just move on to something else that you enjoy?

I may be biased since I given up having the need to read certain characters.

StoneGold
11-21-2008, 02:09 PM
I get that part. But why not just move on to something else that you enjoy?

I may be biased since I given up having the need to read certain characters.

I just told DD that the book and film versions of Battle Royale are better than the manga, does that count?

Shellhead
11-21-2008, 02:11 PM
I get that part. But why not just move on to something else that you enjoy?

I may be biased since I given up having the need to read certain characters.

In the end, that's what I had to do. I gave up on bashing Bendis (mostly) as a lost cause, and dropped Avengers. And I've been doing that kind of thing for a long time. When I was young, I had certain favorite characters that I had to follow. Oddly enough, Jack Kirby caused me to re-think that stance when I was still a kid. His work on Captain America & the Falcon and also Black Panther was so awful in the mid-70s that I dropped both titles. I respect what Kirby helped create in the '60s, but his '70s work at Marvel didn't impress me. However, I loved his work on Kamandi for DC in the early '70s. Anyway, these days, I pick comics based on creative teams, not characters.

Athena Bast
11-21-2008, 02:14 PM
I have no problem with people liking stuff I either don't like or could care less about.

It's when they go all freakazoid about my not liking it and then attempt to convert me that gets my goat.

thehod
11-21-2008, 02:17 PM
I just told DD that the book and film versions of Battle Royale are better than the manga, does that count?

Don't think so. That's more of a case of "If you liked that, you'll love this."

StoneGold
11-21-2008, 02:20 PM
Don't think so. That's more of a case of "If you liked that, you'll love this."

There was a little bit of "That version is the worst of the three, you should try the two superior versions" though.


Although I'm not much one to harp on something don't like. I might cast my negative review, but I'll usually back it up in the same post with a semi-rational argument, and then not harp on it. I might defend that negative view, but I don't think I've ever attacked anyone for their positive view on a book. Well, maybe using their view to springboard my own view, "You liked it? Guh, I thought it was awful," kind of thing. But if I don't like something, I'm not likely to hang around the thread for it to often.

Beni
11-21-2008, 05:22 PM
Someone else's enjoyment is a good thing!

Night
11-21-2008, 05:30 PM
One or more of the following.... (note that some overlap)

Xenophobia – “You’re not like me so I don’t like you.” “BE LIKE ME”
Transference – “The last person who liked that was a jerk, so you must be a jerk”
Addiction - “I’ve given up something like that so being reminded of that causes pain”
Misunderstanding – “I don’t comprehend how someone could like that. I'm not going to bother and just call you weird”
General Irritability- “My life sucks so I’m going to dump on the next person I come into contact with” "I'm a powder keg looking for a match"
Envy – “I cant have that so you enjoying it makes me furious”
Influence – “A source I like says this is bad, and I believe it... why don't you believe it?” "Some say .... (insert long pointless narrative here)"
Ego – “My opinion is supreme, bow before my greatness” "It's about me... stop talking... that is unless it's to praise me" "what is this little noise that interrupts the thoughts of myself"

Paradox
11-21-2008, 10:16 PM
Brandon Hanvey wonders:

How does someone's enjoyment of something effect you?

Zero .