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arp2008
11-08-2008, 11:23 AM
Welcome, all. Just in case this closed I'll keep this intro brief.
The Anime/Manga Aficionado's Lounge! is simply a lounge to hang, chill, and chat about whatever's on your mind pertaining to anime/manga. There are already several thread for specific titles, but I was hoping this could be the place were we come to drop news, ideas, comments, opinions, theories, inquiries, not be bound to any peramerters or topic, and maybe even intoduce new anime that may not make for a successful thread but is worth mentioning as a personal favorite, like, for instance, Kurozuka.
Kurozuka is an anime I recently dicovered featuring stunning visual and a trippy story. Its only five episodes in so it'll be a breeze to catch up. You guys may not like the roundabout story, but the animation is well worth your attention.
Yep, thats basically all I ask in creating this chat thread. Instead of creating a million different threads for simple ideas or questions or news, come here, put your feet up, relax, stay a while, and share with the anime/manga community whatever hot topics or simple conversion pieces you're dying to discuss. If this is closed, :frown: . If not, come on in and have a blast, everyone!!
Dark Soul # 7
11-09-2008, 06:52 PM
Might as well say a few things.
Great manga weekend indeed. Lots of chapter for HSDK at onemanga showing the epic battle between Kenichi and Shou, Kenichi is really gaining levels in badass fast here. Just sad to see Miu sidelined like this.
Also, finally an update for Rosario + Vampire ll. It felt kind of short, then again it only had 35 pages compared to the usual 40+. Great evil cliffhanger. Now I have to wait another month for the next chapter. Damnit.:mad:
Still, great manga weekend.:biggrin:
arp2008
11-09-2008, 07:08 PM
Hey, someone finally posted here!
HSDK? What's that again?
Rosario + Vampire ll is anime, too. Do you watch it?
Dark Soul # 7
11-10-2008, 02:19 AM
HSDK? What's that again?History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi. To horribly summarize it, it's a shounen manga about a normal kid learning martial arts from six freakishly powerful masters so that he can protect himself and the girl he likes, whi generally is better than him, from all the weird opponents that come their way.
Rosario + Vampire ll is anime, too. Do you watch it?...yes.
But only because it's a long strecth of time between each chapter of the manga and the anime is kind of funny. As an adaptation of the manga it's pretty horrid.
Ghost
11-10-2008, 04:39 AM
History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi. To horribly summarize it, it's a shounen manga about a normal kid learning martial arts from six freakishly powerful masters so that he can protect himself and the girl he likes, whi generally is better than him, from all the weird opponents that come their way.
I think HSDK is kinda mediocre over all, but still a fun fighting series if you're not looking for anything advanced in terms of plot, storytelling or characterisation. And I do like that the main character starts out as a total weakling and doesn't have any particular talent for martial arts at all, only really keeping up due to excessive training. It's interesting to see him gradually grow stronger.
The one thing that really annoys me is the blatant fanservice/cheesecake females, most of whom look like they escaped from a hentai doijin. Now, I generally don't mind fanservice (I'm a Ken Akamatsu fan, for crying out loud) but HSDK is just too crude about it. About the only girl in the whole manga I really like is Kisara. (Who is probably the only one who might pass for a real teenager.)
Oh, and The Hermit is made out of awesome and win! oO
Nik Hasta
11-10-2008, 05:03 AM
The one thing that really annoys me is the blatant fanservice/cheesecake females, most of whom look like they escaped from a hentai doijin. Now, I generally don't mind fanservice (I'm a Ken Akamatsu fan, for crying out loud) but HSDK is just too crude about it. About the only girl in the whole manga I really like is Kisara. (Who is probably the only one who might pass for a real teenager.)
You complete hypocrite!
Akamatsu is much worse for fanservice than HSDK, sooo much worse. He had an entire arc where there was an evil army of robots armed with strip-beams for goodness' sake!
Seriously there is no comparison.
On-topic, D.Gray-man, which I'm fairly certain no one else reads, is on such an epic storyline right now. Allen, Kanda and Noise are fighting for their lives in a pocket dimension against a Level 4 Akuma!
So much win!
FistofIron
11-10-2008, 06:09 AM
Does anyone one read Katekyo Hitman Reborn!? It's one of those manga that takes a while for it to really get going but when it does it doesn't stop.
Len Ikari145
11-10-2008, 06:54 AM
You complete hypocrite!
Akamatsu is much worse for fanservice than HSDK, sooo much worse. He had an entire arc where there was an evil army of robots armed with strip-beams for goodness' sake!
And we don't even wanna touch the subject of Love Hina. Really, Ghost---that *is* rather hypocritical. Especially when Negima, in spite of being a great manga, isn't heading in any visible direction or possessing a true plot for that matter. You're also an Flame of Recca fan and I know you aren't going claim that it has less female fanservice than Kenichi or that it's any more tasteful.
And not good with characterizations? Hell, this is actually the first manga where I actually find even the background characters to be memorable. Each of the characters are diverse and unique, and the fighters actually grow not only as people but as martial artists so they aren't rendered useless in the face of the main character's progress(a quality that's becoming increasingly uncommon in shounen). That goes doubly for Miu, the female lead. It's nice that she's developing alongside Kenichi in more ways than one, rather than devolve into a Sally Sideline (with this one exception since she promised Kenichi that she wouldn't interfere with his fight).
And I sure as hell know you aren't going to look at Siegfried, and tell me he lacks characterization.
And Plot? The plot expands off from just Kenichi wanting to learn martial arts to improve himself, defend others and protect Miu, to him becoming intangled in a war between a world-wide martial arts syndicate obsessed with revitalizing Satsujin and Ryozanpaku(while somehow maintaining his social life and the original concept of the manga even in spite of the new developments in plot, unlike other manga where as soon as they attain any measure of power it's: "Goodbye, childhood. Now that I'm a badass, adios to my activities as a teenager and whatnot".) That transition get rather...predictable and the redundancy of it gets rather bland. It's nice that the manga remembers that in spite of what experiences they go through, they're still highschool kids and have lives outside of battle.
Then of course is the martial arts itself. While watching shounen heroes and villains firing spells, jutsus, energy blasts and what have you is fine and dandy, sometimes it's nice to see good old fashion realismw(with exceptions naturally). It's pleasant and nice change of pace to view an anime that consistently uses *real* martial art concepts and techniques, rather than constantly spamming cliff-busting haymakers and exaggerated dragon kicks and the like. The author is either a practioner of martial arts himself or he really did a lot of his homework while working on this series. Either way, I've learned alot just by reading this manga. It's also the reason why I consider it the RK of the next generation.
And the best part of Kenichi that makes it so awesome?
THE FRIGGIN' COMEDY, MAN!
Hell, even if you find the aforementioned lackluster, YOU CAN'T DENY THAT THE COMEDY OF THIS MANGA IS SHEER BRILLIANCE!!!
arp2008
11-10-2008, 07:05 AM
History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi. To horribly summarize it, it's a shounen manga about a normal kid learning martial arts from six freakishly powerful masters so that he can protect himself and the girl he likes, whi generally is better than him, from all the weird opponents that come their way. That actually doesn't sound half bad. How's the artistry in comparison to Naruto? Would you say better, worse, or just different?
...yes.
But only because it's a long strecth of time between each chapter of the manga and the anime is kind of funny. As an adaptation of the manga it's pretty horrid. Horrid? Damn.
arp2008
11-10-2008, 07:06 AM
Does anyone one read Katekyo Hitman Reborn!? It's one of those manga that takes a while for it to really get going but when it does it doesn't stop. I've never read the manga but there is an anime of the same name.
Incidentally, has anyone heard of or checked out the Kurzuka anime I mentioned in the opening post?
Len Ikari145
11-10-2008, 07:15 AM
That actually doesn't sound half bad. How's the artistry in comparison to Naruto? Would you say better, worse, or just different?
It's rather different from Naruto. So far, the only complaint I have about the art is when bullets are fired.
Darth Joker
11-10-2008, 07:53 AM
Just a few comments on Akamatsu, inspired by the posts above...
His heavy reliance on fan-service and slapstick comedy (Love Hina!) is a shame... because when he gets down to showcasing/writing serious action, character development, drama, and suspense, he is quite good at it.
I recently read parts of a fight between Negi Springfield and Fate, and the fighting scenes were beautifully rendered (you couldn't do any more with a black-and-white 2D medium, honestly), and the mood and setting were well done. Evangeline and Asuna are also two very well-developed/fleshed-out characters.
But man... Akamatsu's works sometimes has more panty shots than a Sears catalogue. It is distracting.
Nik Hasta
11-10-2008, 08:06 AM
But man... Akamatsu's works sometimes has more panty shots than a Sears catalogue. It is distracting.
Agreed, I'd like to clarify I mean no slur against Akamatsu's work as a whole, Love Hina is one of my favourite manga of all time, but his fanservice is a real issue for me.
I don't mind fanservice, it does nothing for me but I figure people enjoy it, I do mind if fanservice becomes intrusive into the action. Negima is a BAD example of this as in you can't go more than three pages these days without seeing some woman getting stripped or a pair of panties being brandished or something equally silly.
It bugs me a lot. I mean Love Hina was pretty bad for fanservice but that was genuinely mostly part of the plot and wasn't that bad. Negima is a lot worse.
Darth Joker
11-10-2008, 08:57 AM
Agreed, I'd like to clarify I mean no slur against Akamatsu's work as a whole, Love Hina is one of my favourite manga of all time, but his fanservice is a real issue for me.
I don't mind fanservice, it does nothing for me but I figure people enjoy it, I do mind if fanservice becomes intrusive into the action. Negima is a BAD example of this as in you can't go more than three pages these days without seeing some woman getting stripped or a pair of panties being brandished or something equally silly.
It bugs me a lot. I mean Love Hina was pretty bad for fanservice but that was genuinely mostly part of the plot and wasn't that bad. Negima is a lot worse.
That's pretty much how I feel about it. I don't mind some fanservice, but it's annoying when you can't go more than two pages of reading a female/female fight, or a female/male fight, with out seeing a panty shot.
Heck, that's part of the reason why I liked the Negi/Fate fight so much - with two guys fighting, you get pure action and freedom from intrusive fanservice. :wink:
So long as we're discussing fanservice....
Anyone here a fan of Battle Vixens?
Dark Soul # 7
11-10-2008, 11:20 AM
*logs in right after reading hapters 262-266 of HSDK*:eek:...
Oh my god... That was....*tries to come up with another word for awesome*...*tells Gamiel to screw it*...That was AWESOME!
Seriously, the final of Shou and Kenichi's just tugged my nerdstrings. What a fight and what a way to end the Tournament arc. Great emotional, actionpacked and overall AWESOME stuff all around.
God DAMN I love this manga! I'd love to explain why but I have other things to do!
Dark Soul # 7
11-10-2008, 12:42 PM
That actually doesn't sound half bad. How's the artistry in comparison to Naruto? Would you say better, worse, or just different?Just different, probably more detailed most of the time. But yeah, just different.
Horrid? Damn. Yep.
The manga is a good romantic highschool drama, which just happens to be set in a school for monsters and the male protagonist is the only human at the school, with bits of comedy and action. It has well developed characters, interesting plots and a certain level of fanservice, more than your average manga but less than Negima.
The anime makes the characters about a fraction as complex as they are in the manga, shoves the fanservice down your throat at every chance it gets, focus too much on the comedy and has almost completely rearranged the sequence of events established in the manga. It even ignores most of the first season of the manga.
arp2008
11-10-2008, 04:49 PM
Have any of you guys seen or heard of Morbito: Gaurdian Of The Sacred Spirit?
FistofIron
11-10-2008, 07:13 PM
Have any of you guys seen or heard of Morbito: Gaurdian Of The Sacred Spirit?
That's one series I've been meaning to check out. Is it any good?
arp2008
11-10-2008, 08:10 PM
That's one series I've been meaning to check out. Is it any good? Morbito: Gaurdian Of The Sacred Spirit is a visually splendid anime. The story is pretty straight foward and adds layers to each character as their lives progress with each. Its not as action packed as I'd like it be, but when there is action to be found its a fast past wonderment that pushes the plot onward while dilivering the heartstoping thrills any anime fan could desire.
The story centers on the spear wielding female bodygaurd, Balsa, who inadverently gets swept into the life of a young prince being targeted by his father for assasination under the belief the young heir is the horberor of a spirit. Blasa absconds with the boy at the behest of his deperate mother in order to preserve his life for as long she must.
The dub airs on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim Saturday mornings at 1:30 am. Give it a try. The action may be a bit sparse, but its worth a try.
Len Ikari145
11-11-2008, 03:09 AM
So, are there any Tsukuyomi: Moon Phase fans in this corner?
So long as we're discussing fanservice....
Anyone here a fan of Battle Vixens?
The other title it goes by is IkkiTousen if anyone is curious.
arp2008
11-11-2008, 04:19 PM
The manga is a good romantic highschool drama, which just happens to be set in a school for monsters and the male protagonist is the only human at the school, with bits of comedy and action. It has well developed characters, interesting plots and a certain level of fanservice, more than your average manga but less than Negima. Doesn't sound like my cup of tea.
The anime makes the characters about a fraction as complex as they are in the manga, shoves the fanservice down your throat at every chance it gets, focus too much on the comedy and has almost completely rearranged the sequence of events established in the manga. It even ignores most of the first season of the manga. I'm confused.
FistofIron
11-12-2008, 04:29 AM
So long as we're discussing fanservice....
Anyone here a fan of Battle Vixens?
Battle Vixen's is pretty good. Do you read Yakuza Girl? I believe thats gonna be the king of fan service soon.
Dark Soul # 7
11-12-2008, 02:36 PM
Doesn't sound like my cup of tea.Fair enough. I like it.
I'm confused.What's there to be confused about? The manga is good and the anime sucks, even if it is kind of funny at times.
arp2008
11-12-2008, 05:51 PM
Fair enough. I like it.
What's there to be confused about? The manga is good and the anime sucks, even if it is kind of funny at times.
Okay, I see, I see. I probably didn't understand the first because I read it at 4am while half asleep.
Anyway, what new with you guys? Me? I've recently joined a comic book club of only 5 members, myself included. We're creating a graphic novel of sorts with two warring sides, the rebels and a govrnment organization, battling over territory in an anachronostic setting of the 1950's with weapons and technology of modern and futuristic design. There is no central character. The story focuses on several different charcters at a time, giving each their fair share in the spot light while still being expendible. I see this to be problematic for the story may meander too much as it shitfs from one rebel or government member to the next. There'll be no Naruto or Ichio or Light on which the plot will revolve around and as such I feel we'll lose an interra part of any great tale. I, for one, don't feel the premise is too original or exciting. Thoughts anyone?[/
Battle Vixen's is pretty good. Do you read Yakuza Girl? I believe thats gonna be the king of fan service soon.
Never heard of it, any good?
I agree that Battle Vixens is great, even with the fanservice, it has a very good plot and strong characters. Me and Sharpandpointies are running a respect thread for them.
HectorP
11-12-2008, 06:53 PM
Anime/manga is huge. You want to read a light series like To Love Ru and yet you have your Vagabonds demanding full attention.
FistofIron
11-12-2008, 07:40 PM
Never heard of it, any good?
I agree that Battle Vixens is great, even with the fanservice, it has a very good plot and strong characters. Me and Sharpandpointies are running a respect thread for them.
Its pretty good. The action is good and the story is shaping up rather nicely.
I just saw Ayeka's Call Me Princess on You Tube.
I don't think I'll ever look at her the same way again after this.
arp2008
11-13-2008, 07:26 PM
I just saw Ayeka's Call Me Princess on You Tube.
I don't think I'll ever look at her the same way again after this.
That looks like some old school stuff.
That looks like some old school stuff.
Yeah.
The whole thing is basically Ayeka singing and going all S&M on poor Tenchi.
According to her, all Jurai women do this to their men....
Yun Lao
11-13-2008, 08:04 PM
Yeah.
The whole thing is basically Ayeka singing and going all S&M on poor Tenchi.
According to her, all Jurai women do this to their men....
Doesn't surprise me, actually. Poor poor Tenchi.
Nik Hasta
11-14-2008, 03:45 PM
Just as an update; the latest chapters of Berserk are possibly some of the most epic pages I have ever read.
You are a weaker person for not having read them.
Just as an update; the latest chapters of Berserk are possibly some of the most epic pages I have ever read.
You are a weaker person for not having read them.
Yeah...........well........Your a Ninja!:mad: :tongue:
master of read
11-14-2008, 04:56 PM
one piece still leads the way with the progress of the story as well as nice twists and turns. especially with boa's feelings for luffy.
Nik Hasta
11-14-2008, 05:05 PM
Yeah...........well........Your a Ninja!:mad: :tongue:
Seriously, go read Berserk.
I'll wait.
You'll agree with me.
Dark Soul # 7
11-14-2008, 05:07 PM
one piece still leads the way with the progress of the story as well as nice twists and turns. especially with boa's feelings for luffy.Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that develops since it's the first sign of any true romantic feelings we've seen in the story that holds any real importance.
master of read
11-14-2008, 05:08 PM
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that develops since it's the first sign of any true romantic feelings we've seen in the story that holds any real importance.
maybe boa or maggie will teach luffy to master his haki.
Dark Soul # 7
11-14-2008, 05:12 PM
maybe boa or maggie will teach luffy to master his haki.Somebody has to. It'll be the thing he needs to take himself to the next level.
master of read
11-14-2008, 05:13 PM
Somebody has to. It'll be the thing he needs to take himself to the next level.
well its gonna happen since he's in a nation of woman who idolize him, all of whom know haki.
Dark Soul # 7
11-14-2008, 05:18 PM
well its gonna happen since he's in a nation of woman who idolize him, all of whom know haki.Yep, as long as most of them just stay the hell away and lets him train.
master of read
11-14-2008, 05:22 PM
Yep, as long as most of them just stay the hell away and lets him train.
why do i get the feeling boa is gonna ask luffy to help make the next gen of amazon lily, the same way that fortune teller chick did to naruto in the movie?
Kevin M.
11-14-2008, 08:59 PM
I'm just started research for an Eyeshield 21 story I want to write for the near future.
FistofIron
11-14-2008, 09:38 PM
I just read the new chapter of Katekyo Hitman Reborn! and I am freakin dying for the next chapter. I wish I could time travel so I could read the next chapter right now!!!!!!!!!
Yun Lao
11-15-2008, 10:40 PM
Upon starting on Devilman, I'm not quite sure how to react. Maybe it was scarier back in the 70s when it came out, but the demon designs and violence are pretty amusing. Then again reading Berserk tends to make things a lot more tame in comparison.
arp2008
11-15-2008, 10:51 PM
I watched the Afro Samuria: Resurrection trailer for about the hundreth time today with as much awe and envy as I did when I first leanred of it. The ludicrisly short series that debuted early last year hs easilty fallen into my top 5 anime of all time this movie looks it'll hold a similar position of greatness among some of the best Japans most luaded creators have to offer. Many of the series more memorable charactr including Ninja Ninja and Kuma are set to return in frand fashion. The new villianess is more than likey as deadly as she is sexy, and probably even more deft in sword play than is our afro wearing hero. The hip hop music prominent within this series is a definite plus for me who loves the genre. With a release like this on the horizon life just became that much longer and unbearbale for this anime fan!
Nik Hasta
11-16-2008, 07:10 AM
Just read book 12 of Grappler Baki: Son of Ogre.
I'm a bit sad because Itagaki is gimping the shit out of Retsu Kaioh, whom I'm actually quite fond of.
Baki remains like a train wreck of the manga world. Awful, tragic, shocking to see, but somehow you can't stop staring at it.
Ghost
11-16-2008, 07:35 AM
You complete hypocrite!
Akamatsu is much worse for fanservice than HSDK, sooo much worse. He had an entire arc where there was an evil army of robots armed with strip-beams for goodness' sake!
Seriously there is no comparison.
And we don't even wanna touch the subject of Love Hina. Really, Ghost---that *is* rather hypocritical. Especially when Negima, in spite of being a great manga, isn't heading in any visible direction or possessing a true plot for that matter.
Well, yeah, but I'm not talking about the degree of fanservice, but rather the execution. I just don't think HGDK pulls it off very well, that's all.
Akamatsu-style fanservice is usually played for comedy, and is often overdone to the point of affectionate parody. By comparison, the fanservice in HGDK strikes me as kinda... well, crude, I guess. Unimaginative. It rubs me the wrong way.
Plus, at least Akamatsu puts clothes on his girls before removing them. Compare this to Miu, who usually wears a jacket and what seriously skims the line between tights and body paint. I can't help but feel that's a rather lazy approach; especially since I don't see any joke in it.
You're also an Flame of Recca fan and I know you aren't going claim that it has less female fanservice than Kenichi or that it's any more tasteful.
I... honestly don't recall much blatant fanservice from Flame of Recca, aside from Fuuko getting stripped a couple of times.
I think I must have been distracted by all the epic stuff that was going down in that series.
And not good with characterizations?
OI! I totally didn't say that. I said "nothing advanced."
Seriously, you can't claim a manga is merely average without getting jumped these days? oO
Let me repeat myself in more precise terms: History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi isn't bad. It has several good points and I do enjoy reading it. It simply doesn't surprise me or stimulate me in any extreme ways. I find it amusing, but not fascinating. Okay?
If you guys think it's brilliant, good for you! I'm happy for you if you're capable of enjoying it at that level. Just don't expect me to hail it as some kind of unparalleled masterwork of genius when that's not what I see when I read it!
Sheesh.
And the best part of Kenichi that makes it so awesome?
THE FRIGGIN' COMEDY, MAN!
Hell, even if you find the aforementioned lackluster, YOU CAN'T DENY THAT THE COMEDY OF THIS MANGA IS SHEER BRILLIANCE!!!
Seriously? oO
I only find it funny occasionally. A few of the jokes are brilliant (I loved Kenichi's dad naming his rifles, for example) but it definitely doesn't have me loling all the time.
FistofIron
11-16-2008, 07:41 AM
I just got finished reading vol. 24 of Shamo and I must say it freakin rocked. The first fight of the tournament just started and it is just kickass. The karate guy who doesn't feel pain owns.
Len Ikari145
11-16-2008, 08:33 AM
Well, yeah, but I'm not talking about the degree of fanservice, but rather the execution. I just don't think HGDK pulls it off very well, that's all.
Akamatsu-style fanservice is usually played for comedy, and is often overdone to the point of affectionate parody. By comparison, the fanservice in HGDK strikes me as kinda... well, crude, I guess. Unimaginative. It rubs me the wrong way.
Plus, at least Akamatsu puts clothes on his girls before removing them. Compare this to Miu, who usually wears a jacket and what seriously skims the line between tights and body paint. I can't help but feel that's a rather lazy approach; especially since I don't see any joke in it.
I... honestly don't recall much blatant fanservice from Flame of Recca, aside from Fuuko getting stripped a couple of times.
I think I must have been distracted by all the epic stuff that was going down in that series.
OI! I totally didn't say that. I said "nothing advanced."
Seriously, you can't claim a manga is merely average without getting jumped these days? oO
Let me repeat myself in more precise terms: History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi isn't bad. It has several good points and I do enjoy reading it. It simply doesn't surprise me or stimulate me in any extreme ways. I find it amusing, but not fascinating. Okay?
If you guys think it's brilliant, good for you! I'm happy for you if you're capable of enjoying it at that level. Just don't expect me to hail it as some kind of unparalleled masterwork of genius when that's not what I see when I read it!
Sheesh.
Seriously? oO
I only find it funny occasionally. A few of the jokes are brilliant (I loved Kenichi's dad naming his rifles, for example) but it definitely doesn't have me loling all the time.
Eh, then we'll just say "different strokes for different people" and leave it at that.
Ghost
11-16-2008, 09:51 AM
Eh, then we'll just say "different strokes for different people" and leave it at that.
Damn straight.
I will say that the villains are getting progressively more interesting the further into the story I get. Christopher Eclair was totally awesome, I liked Raichi, and that Shou guy seems interesting as well.
That said, Kisara and Tanimoto are still my favourite characters, and I really wish they would get more screen time.
FistofIron
11-16-2008, 09:53 AM
Damn straight.
I will say that the villains are getting progressively more interesting the further into the story I get. Christopher Eclair was totally awesome, I liked Raichi, and that Shou guy seems interesting as well.
That said, Kisara and Tanimoto are still my favourite characters, and I really wish they would get more screen time.
How far are you in the manga? Have you seen Alexander in action?
Nik Hasta
11-16-2008, 10:06 AM
Well, yeah, but I'm not talking about the degree of fanservice, but rather the execution. I just don't think HGDK pulls it off very well, that's all.
Akamatsu-style fanservice is usually played for comedy, and is often overdone to the point of affectionate parody. By comparison, the fanservice in HGDK strikes me as kinda... well, crude, I guess. Unimaginative. It rubs me the wrong way.
Plus, at least Akamatsu puts clothes on his girls before removing them. Compare this to Miu, who usually wears a jacket and what seriously skims the line between tights and body paint. I can't help but feel that's a rather lazy approach; especially since I don't see any joke in it.
I'm afraid I don't quite follow your logic here. You appreciate fanservice that has better craftsmanship to it?
To be frank the fanservice in both annoys me because it's completely unnessecary in both series. Negima is worse for me because it's more distracting and much more... well everywhere. HSDK limits it to a few large breasted characters wearing skimpy outfits which is much more tolerable but I could do without the constant nipple definitions.
OI! I totally didn't say that. I said "nothing advanced."
Seriously, you can't claim a manga is merely average without getting jumped these days? oO
Let me repeat myself in more precise terms: History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi isn't bad. It has several good points and I do enjoy reading it. It simply doesn't surprise me or stimulate me in any extreme ways. I find it amusing, but not fascinating. Okay?
If you guys think it's brilliant, good for you! I'm happy for you if you're capable of enjoying it at that level. Just don't expect me to hail it as some kind of unparalleled masterwork of genius when that's not what I see when I read it!
Sheesh.
I agree with you here, HSDK is alright but it constantly falls short of matching up to manga that I regard as sheer brilliance. It's a solid series but isn't actually breaking any molds or anything.
The art is also worryingly inconsistant in places which throws me off a lot.
Darth Joker
11-16-2008, 10:16 AM
Nik Hasta - I think what Ghost is saying is that even within sexual fanservice itself there are different levels of crudeness, and/or simple aesthetics.
Compare Negima to, say, one of those animes/mangas were women have impossibly large breasts that make you think of severe tumors more than anything healthy...
Negima looks relatively "classy" in such a comparison.
I should say that I've never seen HGDK, so I'm not sure what the fanservice in it is like. However, it is true that Negima is mild (in each fanservice instance, definitely not in the number of instances) when compared to some animes/mangas.
Ghost
11-16-2008, 11:02 AM
How far are you in the manga? Have you seen Alexander in action?
Chapter 170. Alexander hasn't show up yet.
I'm afraid I don't quite follow your logic here. You appreciate fanservice that has better craftsmanship to it?
But of course! I appreciate all aspects of writing based on the level of craftmaship/sophistication. Fanservice isn't an exception.
To be frank the fanservice in both annoys me because it's completely unnessecary in both series. Negima is worse for me because it's more distracting and much more... well everywhere. HSDK limits it to a few large breasted characters wearing skimpy outfits which is much more tolerable but I could do without the constant nipple definitions.
Sounds like you're not really a fan of fanservice at all. In that case I can totally see why you don't like the fanservice in Negima, and why you'd think that "less is better."
It's just, I actually like fanservice and think it's all in good fun when done well, so I'm less concerned with quantity and more concerned with quality.
I agree with you here, HSDK is alright but it constantly falls short of matching up to manga that I regard as sheer brilliance. It's a solid series but isn't actually breaking any molds or anything.
The art is also worryingly inconsistant in places which throws me off a lot.
I haven't thought of that.
A thing I have been wondering about is what the hell Shigure is supposed to be doing in the story? Aside from that brief "fear training" part in the beginning, she doesn't seem to have anything to do with training Kenichi at all. oO
Nik Hasta - I think what Ghost is saying is that even within sexual fanservice itself there are different levels of crudeness, and/or simple aesthetics.
Pretty much. Compare it to humor, if you will - they both have high and low points.
Compare Negima to, say, one of those animes/mangas were women have impossibly large breasts that make you think of severe tumors more than anything healthy...
Eiken. Haven't seen it myself, but just a glance tells me it fails simply on account of making the girls unattractive. Which is really a counter-productive way of using fanservice.
Nik Hasta
11-16-2008, 11:15 AM
But of course! I appreciate all aspects of writing based on the level of craftmaship/sophistication. Fanservice isn't an exception.
Sounds like you're not really a fan of fanservice at all. In that case I can totally see why you don't like the fanservice in Negima, and why you'd think that "less is better."
It's just, I actually like fanservice and think it's all in good fun when done well, so I'm less concerned with quantity and more concerned with quality.
I'm not a fan of pointless fanservice.
Love Hina is a prime example of fanservice actually used to drive the plot forward and as such wasn't intrusive. I guess if you like it "in good fun," then enjoy it as much as you like it.
Dark Soul # 7
11-17-2008, 03:21 PM
Damn straight.
I will say that the villains are getting progressively more interesting the further into the story I get. Christopher Eclair was totally awesome, I liked Raichi, and that Shou guy seems interesting as well.
That said, Kisara and Tanimoto are still my favourite characters, and I really wish they would get more screen time.Do not worry, Kisara has quite a few great moments in one storyline and things are being set up for Tanimoto as well, though that's in the future.
Personally I'm hoping that Siegfried gets to fight Rachel Stanley in front of a giant audience.
Len Ikari145
11-18-2008, 12:45 PM
Do not worry, Kisara has quite a few great moments in one storyline and things are being set up for Tanimoto as well, though that's in the future.
Personally I'm hoping that Siegfried gets to fight Rachel Stanley in front of a giant audience.
According to Wiki, Renka's also going to have her moment in the manga.
Aubergine~!
11-19-2008, 08:32 AM
Just caught up on HSDK, and I have to agree that it's solid, and definitely entertaining, but a bit pedestrian. Decent action, some comedy thrown in here and there, but overall, nothing we haven't seen before.
Apachai is pure entertainment though.
On that note, anyone else read Beck? Now that's a brilliant manga.
Dark Soul # 7
11-19-2008, 08:40 AM
According to Wiki, Renka's also going to have her moment in the manga.Hurrays! I like Renka, she's funny.Just caught up on HSDK, and I have to agree that it's solid, and definitely entertaining, but a bit pedestrian. Decent action, some comedy thrown in here and there, but overall, nothing we haven't seen before.Oh definately. It's far from being the most complex or original story any of us will ever read. But it is the kind of pure entertainment story that I can get behind. And it updates more frequently than the big mangas.:biggrin:
Nik Hasta
11-19-2008, 03:15 PM
Wow... HSDK chapter 282 took a really unexpected turn.
Kenichi died. Very unexected.
master of read
11-19-2008, 03:17 PM
Wow... HSDK chapter 282 took a really unexpected turn.
Kenichi died. Very unexected.
only for a little bit. but what did he mean "died as a martial artist?"
Dark Soul # 7
11-19-2008, 03:18 PM
only for a little bit. but what did he mean "died as a martial artist?"Maybe something about Kenichi's self-confidence he thinks he's figured out or some specific pressure points that won't allow Kenichi to fight anymore.
FistofIron
11-19-2008, 03:20 PM
only for a little bit. but what did he mean "died as a martial artist?"
I'd say he broke his spirit.
master of read
11-19-2008, 03:22 PM
Maybe something about Kenichi's self-confidence he thinks he's figured out or some specific pressure points that won't allow Kenichi to fight anymore.
well he did bring up a good point during the fight: kenichi has become a deadly fighter.
Dark Soul # 7
11-19-2008, 03:24 PM
well he did bring up a good point during the fight: kenichi has become a deadly fighter.At least to common delinquents.
Nik Hasta
11-19-2008, 03:34 PM
I was more referring to the fact that he blasted right through Kenichi's strongest attribute [read:Durability] like it wasn't even there.
FistofIron
11-20-2008, 05:28 PM
I just read the new chapter of Vinland Saga and I must say it keeps getting better and better. Eventhough Thorfinn is still injured he had no problem chasing down and mercing an assassin. The dude eats rocks and shits gunpowder.
Did anyone else read Kenichi? If so did you you enjoy Shigure? I know I did.:evilsmile:
master of read
11-20-2008, 06:11 PM
I just read the new chapter of Vinland Saga and I must say it keeps getting better and better. Eventhough Thorfinn is still injured he had no problem chasing down and mercing an assassin. The dude eats rocks and shits gunpowder.
Did anyone else read Kenichi? If so did you you enjoy Shigure? I know I did.:evilsmile:
damn skippy. i mean, does she know how hot she is?
also, just finished reading eyeshield 21 and i must say, it is teh awesome. i love the characters and the story. and hiruma is my new hero.
FistofIron
11-20-2008, 06:17 PM
damn skippy. i mean, does she know how hot she is?
also, just finished reading eyeshield 21 and i must say, it is teh awesome. i love the characters and the story. and hiruma is my new hero.
I just read the other chapters and her fight in the air bath was wonderful.:biggrin: Her fight with the Yami sword master should be good.
arp2008
11-20-2008, 06:36 PM
Does anyone watch Naruto: Shippuden? If so, do not miss this weeks episode! It looks to be one the best we've had in some time in way of smooth, crisp animation and unyeilding action.
Len Ikari145
11-20-2008, 07:11 PM
damn skippy. i mean, does she know how hot she is?
Apparently not.
master of read
11-20-2008, 07:39 PM
Apparently not.
if kenichi plays his cards right, he could get a little from shigure.
Len Ikari145
11-20-2008, 07:45 PM
if kenichi plays his cards right, he could get a little from shigure.
Maybe if he wasn't scared shitless of her, yeah.
master of read
11-20-2008, 07:47 PM
Maybe if he wasn't scared shitless of her, yeah.
well not according to this doujin i read. seems like kenichi is a machine.
Melchior
11-20-2008, 08:58 PM
My problem is that, since I read both "History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi" and "Eyeshield 21", I cannot help but wonder at the chaos you would get if you stuck Hiruma and Niijima in the same school. I just cannot decide if they would get along wonderfully, or be snapping at each other for intruding in their space.
arp2008
11-20-2008, 09:11 PM
Astro Boy flies his way into cinemas October of 2009.
http://www.moviefone.com/movie/astro-boy/30167/video/astro-boy-trailer-no-1/2328875
master of read
11-20-2008, 10:08 PM
My problem is that, since I read both "History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi" and "Eyeshield 21", I cannot help but wonder at the chaos you would get if you stuck Hiruma and Niijima in the same school. I just cannot decide if they would get along wonderfully, or be snapping at each other for intruding in their space.
sweet jesus. the whole school is screwed.
FistofIron
11-23-2008, 02:57 PM
I just read the new Kenichi chapters and I must say Shigure and Appachai's fights were great.
Nik Hasta
11-23-2008, 06:19 PM
Sadly D.Grey-man is on indefinite hiatus since the mangaka is usffering major health problems.
May she make a speedy recovery and continue writing her epic story!
Len Ikari145
11-24-2008, 01:26 AM
As do I. I also hope to merciful God that the anime won't be ruined by fillers (though I'll admit, D. Grayman fillers are more tolerable than Naruto and Bleach's).
Is it just me, or is this thread slowly being converted into HSDK thread?
Ghost
11-24-2008, 04:00 AM
Been reading tons of Shaman King lately. I've always liked the series but I never got around to catching up with it until now.
The only thing that really puts me off is when people get their souls destroyed or eaten, which I tend to find very disturbing.
Also, Hao is annoyingly broken.
Aubergine~!
11-27-2008, 10:49 AM
My problem is that, since I read both "History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi" and "Eyeshield 21", I cannot help but wonder at the chaos you would get if you stuck Hiruma and Niijima in the same school. I just cannot decide if they would get along wonderfully, or be snapping at each other for intruding in their space.
Eh, Hiruma makes Nijima his slave within a few weeks. Or shoots him.
That said, Shin joining Ryozanpaku and taking on Agon, who's hooked up with Yomi, after a year's worth of training for both of them would be epic.
Or at least fun to watch.
Dark Soul # 7
11-27-2008, 04:07 PM
The last chapter of Yu Yu Hakusho is up.
It's a pretty good read but I think it's better read together with the chapter before it.
arp2008
11-27-2008, 04:08 PM
The last chapter of Yu Yu Hakusho is up.
It's a pretty good read but I think it's better read together with the chapter before it.Wait, wait, wait. Yu Yu Hakusho is a manga, too?
Dark Soul # 7
11-27-2008, 04:20 PM
Wait, wait, wait. Yu Yu Hakusho is a manga, too?I'm pretty sure it was a manga before it was an anime.
arp2008
11-27-2008, 04:28 PM
I'm pretty sure it was a manga before it was an anime. This is news to me. The anime ended some time ago so I figured whatever the source material was had concluded too. I think give this manga a look or two. I miss the anime even though it began to falter during and after the last match of the dark tournament. Do you know why the anime stopped, for I don't remember it having a final episode.
Dark Soul # 7
11-27-2008, 04:31 PM
This is news to me. The anime ended some time ago so I figured whatever the source material was had concluded too. I think give this manga a look or two. I miss the anime even though it began to falter during and after the last match of the dark tournament. Do know why the anime stopped, for I don't remember it having a final episode.It did have a final episode that's slightly based off of the final chapter. They did skip a lot of things from the last few manga chapters though to focus on the final tournament battles instead.
arp2008
11-27-2008, 04:34 PM
It did have a final episode that's slightly based off of the final chapter. They did skip a lot of things from the last few manga chapters though to focus on the final tournament battles instead. The final chapter? The one you just said was up?
Dark Soul # 7
11-27-2008, 04:37 PM
The final chapter? The one you just said was up?Just because onemanga hasn't put it up until now doesn't mean that it hasn't existed before now. For example they only have 14 chapters of Dragonball's 519 chapters up on the site.
It's just onemanga that's late with it is all.
arp2008
11-27-2008, 04:51 PM
Just because onemanga hasn't put it up until now doesn't mean that it hasn't existed before now. For example they only have 14 chapters of Dragonball's 519 chapters up on the site.
It's just onemanga that's late with it is all.Oh, okay. I thought afer all these years the manga was still ongoing.
Len Ikari145
11-30-2008, 07:20 AM
So, has anyone checked out the manga series, "Katekyō Hitman Reborn!"?
FistofIron
11-30-2008, 07:25 AM
So, has anyone checked out the manga series, "Katekyō Hitman Reborn!"?
Thats one on my favorite manga. I'm glad the Varia are back I wanna see how strong they've become.
arp2008
11-30-2008, 04:58 PM
If any, what other anime sites have you guys joined and post on regularly?
Ghost
12-01-2008, 01:09 PM
I think I did a good deed today.
I was at the library and noticed they'd labeled their Neon Genesis Evangelion DVD's under "children." I respectfully suggested it might fit better under "young adult," and they thanked me for the advice and said they'd look it over.
arp2008
12-01-2008, 04:29 PM
forums.narutofan.com I'v been there. Very populated and fun forum.
I think I did a good deed today.
I was at the library and noticed they'd labeled their Neon Genesis Evangelion DVD's under "children." I respectfully suggested it might fit better under "young adult," and they thanked me for the advice and said they'd look it over.
While normally I'm fine with leaving mistakes like that alone, it was a good idea, that stuff just might mess up a kid or two.
Especially the movie.....
arp2008
12-01-2008, 04:35 PM
I think I did a good deed today.
I was at the library and noticed they'd labeled their Neon Genesis Evangelion DVD's under "children." I respectfully suggested it might fit better under "young adult," and they thanked me for the advice and said they'd look it over. Good for you :wink: Here's a question made purely out of procrastination: Wouldn't you say Libraries should including more books like mangas and graphic novels and the like so kids and young adults who'd otherwise sit at home playing games for hours or out on teh streets loitering would be more encouraged to visit their local library? If theres one thing more libraries are lacking its reading material to appeal to the younger, more superhero savy crowd, don't you think?
Good for you :wink: Here a question I making out pure procrastination: Wouldn't you say Libraries should including more books like mangas and graphic novels and the like so kids and young adults who'd otherwise sit at home playing games for hours or out on teh streets loitering would be more encouraged to visit their local library? If theres one thing more libraries are lacking its reading material to appeal to the younger, more superhero savy crowd, don't you think?
I do agree more manga should be available, they had a bit of it in my High School library and they were fun reads.
Ah, I see this thread has 100 posts in it now.
Legato
12-01-2008, 04:40 PM
To any fellow Manga reader I want to ask has any of you found yourself enjoying reading Manga more than you do any of the mainstreme Marvel or DC Comics?
I have been reading more Manga than comics recently, although I still keep up with the Vertigo and the Ultimate line whenever I could. Yet whenever I go to a bookstore the first thing I usually check is the Manga section.
To those that have prefered manga over comics what is it about Mangas you like? Is it that they have better storytelling, dont have to worry about continuity problems, or heroic deaths that mean something other than shock value?
To any fellow Manga reader I want to ask has any of you found yourself enjoying reading Manga more than you do any of the mainstreme Marvel or DC Comics?
I have been reading more Manga than comics recently, although I still keep up with the Vertigo and the Ultimate line whenever I could. Yet whenever I go to a bookstore the first thing I usually check is the Manga section.
To those that have prefered manga over comics what is it about Mangas you like? Is it that they have better storytelling, dont have to worry about continuity problems, or heroic deaths that mean something other than shock value?
That's generally the same reason I have, although it's partly because I'm so far behind comics now, and from the sounds things I'm not missing much.
Generally I'm sticking with Kamen Rider Spirits, a super hero Manga where the heroes act like heroes and don't double cross each other or sell out to the devil.
I'm fading in and out of Naruto, but Pein is drawing me back in. Know Pain.:biggrin:
I'm really liking One Piece, it's Shounen but the characters are great and it's allot of fun to read.
Legato
12-01-2008, 04:59 PM
That's generally the same reason I have, although it's partly because I'm so far behind comics now, and from the sounds things I'm not missing much.
Generally I'm sticking with Kamen Rider Spirits, a super hero Manga where the heroes act like heroes and don't double cross each other or sell out to the devil.
I'm fading in and out of Naruto, but Pein is drawing me back in. Know Pain.:biggrin:
I'm really liking One Piece, it's Shounen but the characters are great and it's allot of fun to read.
I know what you mean. With the exception of Ultimate X-Men I cant even remember the last time I actually picked up a 616 X-Men comic.
I would check up on X-Men forums just to see what has been happening thare but to be honest I dont see anything exciting happening.
The only thing involving DC that has sparked my interest is Final Crisis but mostly because I hear Darksied is treatening again. I still say he wont ever return back to his Pre-Crisis glory but it is nice that Darksied is getting his villainy back after all those years of being a jobber to any DC character that comes his way.
I have been reading the manga version of Vampire Hunter D. Pretty fun read and closely accurate to that of the novels but I have notice some changes in the manga that haven't been shown in the book but nothing too extreme like the movie version of VHD has shown.
I liked VHD because I like how the vampires are actually being portrayed as monsters instead of the soap opera, Ann Rice wannabe, vamps that you usually see.
Ikkitousen is starting to become my fave, yeah some would consider it a T & A type of manga but it actually has storytelling and pretty good fight scenes in them manga also.
arp2008
12-01-2008, 05:02 PM
To any fellow Manga reader I want to ask has any of you found yourself enjoying reading Manga more than you do any of the mainstreme Marvel or DC Comics? At the moment I think I read more comics than manga, but thats only because some my favorite manga have concluded or is on hiatus. Incidentally, what manga do you read?
I have been reading more Manga than comics recently, although I still keep up with the Vertigo and the Ultimate line whenever I could. Yet whenever I go to a bookstore the first thing I usually check is the Manga section.I'm usually in the comic book section more often then the manga section, myself.
To those that have prefered manga over comics what is it about Mangas you like? Is it that they have better storytelling, dont have to worry about continuity problems, or heroic deaths that mean something other than shock value? Manga's, in general, do have far and away superior stroy telling, more comelling characters, a stable, unchanging continuiy, consistent art, one single overarching story that guids each and every arc, and deep care for quality over making a buck. Since american comic book companies are businesses over anything else they put priority on making as much money as they can and in doing so falter greatly in the way of making consistenty acclaimed stories. The fact they bring back the dead and have multiple versions of the same charcter doesn't help, either. In essence, Although both do have their fair share of hits and misses, mangas generally provide more enthralling and memorable stories than american comics books.
Sabrina_Fried
12-01-2008, 05:04 PM
To any fellow Manga reader I want to ask has any of you found yourself enjoying reading Manga more than you do any of the mainstreme Marvel or DC Comics?
I have been reading more Manga than comics recently, although I still keep up with the Vertigo and the Ultimate line whenever I could. Yet whenever I go to a bookstore the first thing I usually check is the Manga section.
To those that have prefered manga over comics what is it about Mangas you like? Is it that they have better storytelling, dont have to worry about continuity problems, or heroic deaths that mean something other than shock value?
My comic reading is about evenly split between manga and not-manga right now. Maybe a touch in favor of manga. But it is not by design. I'm not reading the manga because it is manga. I try not to judge comics by their country or language of origin. The manga that has ended up in my reading list is there because it tells a good, compelling story. More importantly, it's not afraid to END that story when the time is right. The more violent of the stories explore all sides of the characters' actions, including the consequences. It's more mature storytelling.
I also usually check the manga section at my LCS first, but that is also not by (my) design. The LCS owner has set up his manga section so that it is the first thing you see when you walk in.
Sabrina
Kevin M.
12-01-2008, 05:11 PM
The thing that draws me into manga is something I feel that a good number of modern comics have been lacking in the past few years: Consistency, and a real sense of wonder. To often have recent comics become bogged down in retorich, or have completely destroyed a well established characters. I mean, I don't mind comics trying to take a more realistic approach, but when it involves characters talking down to the reader, or just pulling the story line down, then it really damages the read for me.
Another thing is that what you see of a character is what you get. Odds are your not going to see Luffy, Ichigo, or Naruto make a deal with satan to weasel out of something. That not to say that I don't want to see character growth, because I do want to see main characters evolve, just do it logically.
Legato
12-01-2008, 05:13 PM
At the moment I think I read more comics than manga, but thats only because some my favorite manga have concluded or is on hiatus. Incidentally, what manga do you read?
Currently the manga version of Vampire Hunter D, Ikkitousen, Hellsing, and One Piece on some occasion
Manga's, in general, do have far and away superior stroy telling, more comelling characters, a stable, unchanging continuiy, consistent art, one, single overarching story that guids each and every arc, and deep care for quality story teling over making a buck. Since americal comic book companies are business over anything else, they put proirity on making as much money as they can and in doing so falter greatly in relam of making consistenty acclaimed stories. The fact they bring back the dead and multiple versions of the same charcter doesn't help, either. In essence, Although both do have their fair share of hits and misses, mangas are generally provide more enthralling and memorable stories than american comics books.
One of my problems when it comes to comics has been bringing people back from the dead. To put it simply if DC ever decided to permanently kill Superman I just wouldn't really care because comics has made death so meaningless that I know eventually Superman will be brought back just to increase sales of a Superman comic or something.
When it comes to mangas sometimes a character's death can leave a emotional impact depending on how well done the death is
Dark Soul # 7
12-01-2008, 05:16 PM
To any fellow Manga reader I want to ask has any of you found yourself enjoying reading Manga more than you do any of the mainstreme Marvel or DC Comics?If you had asked me this like 1.5 years ago I would probably have said no and have Marvel comics as my main source for entertainment.
Then they just started screwing things up. I could still read it since there were quite a few greats titles out there, most of them are still great now as well. But then they fucked it all up with the thing I mention in my sig.
After that and having rediscovered the greatness of One Piece as well as finding HSDK, Rosario + Vampire, Kekkaishi, Mysterious Girlfriend X I can safetly say that I'm currently more into manga than Marvel.
Currently the manga version of Vampire Hunter D, Ikkitousen, Hellsing, and One Piece on some occasion
One of my problems when it comes to comics has been bringing people back from the dead. To put it simply if DC ever decided to permanently kill Superman I just wouldn't really care because comics has made death so meaningless that I know eventually Superman will be brought back just to increase sales of a Superman comic or something.
When it comes to mangas sometimes a character's death can leave a emotional impact depending on how well done the death is
Elfen Lied was a good example.
Banto was a royal jerk, but you get enough characterization with him that when he
Sacrifices himself to protect Mayu
It is so well done and you care about his death.
Hellsing did it too with Anderson.
Gurren Lagann had very well done death scenes.
Legato
12-01-2008, 05:21 PM
Elfen Lied was a good example.
Banto was a royal jerk, but you get enough characterization with him that when he
Sacrifices himself to protect Mayu
It is so well done and you care about his death.
Hellsing did it too with Anderson.
Gurren Lagann had very well done death scenes.
With Hellsing Rip Van Winkle's death was well done to the point that I even felt kinda bad for her. The anime version of her death is more disturbing.
Kinda a little graphic to describe her death here but to those that have seen or read about her death in the manga know what Im talking about.
arp2008
12-01-2008, 05:30 PM
Currently the manga version of Vampire Hunter D, Ikkitousen, Hellsing, and One Piece on some occasion No Naruto? Why not?
One of my problems when it comes to comics has been bringing people back from the dead. To put it simply if DC ever decided to permanently kill Superman I just wouldn't really care because comics has made death so meaningless that I know eventually Superman will be brought back just to increase sales of a Superman comic or something.
When it comes to mangas sometimes a character's death can leave a emotional impact depending on how well done the death is My feelings point for point.
arp2008
12-01-2008, 05:31 PM
Gurren Lagann had very well done death scenes. Yes it did. Kamina and Kittans deaths notably powerful in their emotional punch and conrtibutions to the story.
I
Ikkitousen is starting to become my fave, yeah some would consider it a T & A type of manga but it actually has storytelling and pretty good fight scenes in them manga also.
Battle Vixens really is a great manga.:biggrin:
FistofIron
12-01-2008, 05:33 PM
I enjoy manga more than American comics but its by a slim margin.
Are there any manga you guys are gonna miss when it ends? I'm gonna miss the hell out of Katekyo Hitman Reborn! but I hope it doesn't end anytime soon.
I enjoy manga more than American comics but its by a slim margin.
Are there any manga you guys are gonna miss when it ends? I'm gonna miss the hell out of Katekyo Hitman Reborn! but I hope it doesn't end anytime soon.
One Piece and Battle Vixens.
Dark Soul # 7
12-01-2008, 05:36 PM
I enjoy manga more than American comics but its by a slim margin.
Are there any manga you guys are gonna miss when it ends? I'm gonna miss the hell out of Katekyo Hitman Reborn! but I hope it doesn't end anytime soon.Definately One Piece, HSDK and Fairy Tail. I'll have to find other sources for awesome entertainment of the purest kind.
arp2008
12-01-2008, 05:38 PM
I enjoy manga more than American comics but its by a slim margin.
Are there any manga you guys are gonna miss when it ends? I'm gonna miss the hell out of Katekyo Hitman Reborn! but I hope it doesn't end anytime soon.
For me, it'll no doubt be Naruto. I fear the day the final chapter arrives.
FistofIron
12-01-2008, 05:41 PM
Definately One Piece, HSDK and Fairy Tail. I'll have to find other sources for awesome entertainment of the purest kind.
I'm gonna miss those too. I'm gonna miss Baki when its gone but it has to end. I'm afraid theres gonn be no Shamo for awhile.:frown:
Legato
12-01-2008, 05:42 PM
No Naruto? Why not?
I used to read Naruto up to the Time Skip Era. But when the whole Sasuke issue became too rediculous I just cant find myself enjoying Naruto as much as I used to. In short Sasuke is like Naruto's version of Red Hulk but, unlike Rulk, Sasuke's opponents usually have a good showing before they loose to him
Although I do like that Sakura during the Time Skip has became a badass instead of a useless wimp that she was during the Pre-Time Skip era.
Legato
12-01-2008, 05:48 PM
I enjoy manga more than American comics but its by a slim margin.
Are there any manga you guys are gonna miss when it ends? I'm gonna miss the hell out of Katekyo Hitman Reborn! but I hope it doesn't end anytime soon.
In comics defense I do enjoy the works of Alan Moore and try to check out some of the earlier volumes of The Authority when you can.
Im going to miss One Piece. I do wish that it would be one of those mangas that never ends but I know eventually it will end at some point.
Im going to miss Berserk. The manga, I would describe, is one big emotional roller coaster. I liked the whole hero/villain concept they did in that manga.
With Berserk you dont have no obvious good guy or bad guy. Griffith can be seen as the main antagonist but he doesn't behave as a villain, Gatts is the protagonist but he hardly acts as a pure hero.
So in a way some readers can find it difficult as to who is good and who is bad in that manga.
arp2008
12-01-2008, 05:59 PM
I used to read Naruto up to the Time Skip Era. But when the whole Sasuke issue became too rediculous I just cant find myself enjoying Naruto as much as I used to. In short Sasuke is like Naruto's version of Red Hulk but, unlike Rulk, Sasuke's opponents usually have a good showing before they loose to him What do you mean when you say "the Sasuke issue became too ridiculous"?
Although I do like that Sakura during the Time Skip has became a badass instead of a useless wimp that she was during the Pre-Time Skip era. You need to jump back in ASAP! The manga is better than ever.
So I watched some BG Crisis 2040 recently, I may look into this series.
FistofIron
12-02-2008, 02:09 PM
So I watched some BG Crisis 2040 recently, I may look into this series.
That's a good series I used to watch it years ago.
arp2008
12-02-2008, 02:46 PM
So I watched some BG Crisis 2040 recently, I may look into this series. What's that about?
What's that about?
From Wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubblegum_Crisis_Tokyo_2040
Ghost
12-02-2008, 03:16 PM
To any fellow Manga reader I want to ask has any of you found yourself enjoying reading Manga more than you do any of the mainstreme Marvel or DC Comics?
I have been reading more Manga than comics recently, although I still keep up with the Vertigo and the Ultimate line whenever I could. Yet whenever I go to a bookstore the first thing I usually check is the Manga section.
I'm actually something of a manga purist: I don't really read comics at all these days. Not because I mind them, but because the interest isn't quite there. The only exception is Fables, which is really the only comic book I feel the need to read.
To those that have prefered manga over comics what is it about Mangas you like? Is it that they have better storytelling, dont have to worry about continuity problems, or heroic deaths that mean something other than shock value?
Generally, I prefer stories and characters written by a single author since it makes for a more even quality. Also, I find the sense of aesthetics in manga on average to be more to my taste then the sense of aesthetics of comic books. And finally, I'm not particularly interested in the superhero genre over-all.
arp2008
12-02-2008, 03:25 PM
Generally, I prefer stories and characters written by a single author since it makes for a more even quality. Also, I find the sense of aesthetics in manga on average to be more to my taste then the sense of aesthetics of comic books... For the most part, ditto.
FistofIron
12-02-2008, 09:59 PM
Its been a long time since I've seen that. I don't remember if I ever finished the series though.
Jeremi
12-03-2008, 02:35 AM
To any fellow Manga reader I want to ask has any of you found yourself enjoying reading Manga more than you do any of the mainstreme Marvel or DC Comics?
I have been reading more Manga than comics recently, although I still keep up with the Vertigo and the Ultimate line whenever I could. Yet whenever I go to a bookstore the first thing I usually check is the Manga section.
To those that have prefered manga over comics what is it about Mangas you like? Is it that they have better storytelling, dont have to worry about continuity problems, or heroic deaths that mean something other than shock value?
It's 50/50 for me, I read a bunch of Marvel and DC stuff but also a lot of Manga, what I don't get from the comics I get from the Mangas and vice versa.
I started reading the One Piece Manga and I'm up to chapter 116 right now, boy I should have known it would be tough to read trough them all. :biggrin: Another Manga I've been enjoying is Change 123, is there anyone else who's been reading it?
I used to read Naruto up to the Time Skip Era. But when the whole Sasuke issue became too rediculous I just cant find myself enjoying Naruto as much as I used to. In short Sasuke is like Naruto's version of Red Hulk but, unlike Rulk, Sasuke's opponents usually have a good showing before they loose to him
Although I do like that Sakura during the Time Skip has became a badass instead of a useless wimp that she was during the Pre-Time Skip era.
I just want to say I give up on trying to care about Sasuke.
If it isn't him pulling some BS victory out of his butt, it's making up a new power with no explanation or whining about his life. Not to mention all the frequent trolls that worship him and attack posters for not doing the same.
It's impossible for me to like the character.
Legato
12-04-2008, 11:06 AM
I just want to say I give up on trying to care about Sasuke.
If it isn't him pulling some BS victory out of his butt, it's making up a new power with no explanation or whining about his life. Not to mention all the frequent trolls that worship him and attack posters for not doing the same.
It's impossible for me to like the character.
To be honest the Sasuke worshipers make me laugh more than annoy me. They would come here trying to convince people how awesome Sasuke is while being completly blind as to why people dont like him.
Then they go and post a humerous thread explaining or trying to explain why Sakura is a Mary Sue despite that evidence show that she isn't one. Then they would insult posters who dont agree with their views instead of going into a mature debate with them.
In a way some of them are like little children who would throw a tantrum whenever they dont get their way.
To be honest the Sasuke worshipers make me laugh more than annoy me. They would come here trying to convince people how awesome Sasuke is while being completly blind as to why people dont like him.
Then they go and post a humerous thread explaining or trying to explain why Sakura is a Mary Sue despite that evidence show that she isn't one. Then they would insult posters who dont agree with their views instead of going into a mature debate with them.
In a way some of them are like little children who would throw a tantrum whenever they dont get their way.
Perhaps, but after putting with all the crap from them constantly barging into threads that don't even involve Sasuke just so they can bash the characters in a different Manga every time one comes on the board, I'm fed up with all of them.
Legato
12-04-2008, 11:21 AM
Perhaps, but after putting with all the crap from them constantly barging into threads that don't even involve Sasuke just so they can bash the characters in a different Manga every time one comes on the board, I'm fed up with all of them.
Thare is a CBR Q&A & Announcements forum whare the head Mods would hang out. What I woudl do is post your concerns thare and maybe request a additional mod just incase the current mod hasn't been bringing order into this forum.
The current mod could be busy so requesting a additional mod to help him or her out would be a good start. Atleast express your concerns in the forum and eventually your voice will be heard
Thare is a CBR Q&A & Announcements forum whare the head Mods would hang out. What I woudl do is post your concerns thare and maybe request a additional mod just incase the current mod hasn't been bringing order into this forum.
The current mod could be busy so requesting a additional mod to help him or her out would be a good start. Atleast express your concerns in the forum and eventually your voice will be heard
Thanks I'll do that.
FistofIron
12-04-2008, 05:48 PM
Anyone read the new Claymore chapter? I seriously can't wait to see what happens next.
Len Ikari145
12-04-2008, 07:08 PM
Anyone read the new Claymore chapter? I seriously can't wait to see what happens next.
Yeah, shit, If had any doubts that Isley was a real bastard, they've swiftly been eradicated from my mind.
arp2008
12-04-2008, 10:14 PM
Anyone read the new Claymore chapter? I seriously can't wait to see what happens next. I used to when I have finished this anime, but since its a monthly manga I decided to let the chapters pile up us so I can have one long narrative to enjoy. I don't know how you guys stand teh month long wait between chapter, especailly given how mangas are wont to leave the most rousing cliffhagers.
FistofIron
12-04-2008, 10:46 PM
Yeah, shit, If had any doubts that Isley was a real bastard, they've swiftly been eradicated from my mind.
Its easy to forget Isley's a villain.:tongue:
FistofIron
12-04-2008, 10:47 PM
I used to when I have finished this anime, but since its a monthly manga I decided to let the chapters pile up us so I can have one long narrative to enjoy. I don't know how you guys stand teh month long wait between chapter, especailly given how mangas are wont to leave the most rousing cliffhagers.
I probably shouldn't have read it because now I'm going crazy waiting for next month.:frown:
GrampaGen
12-04-2008, 11:05 PM
Just read through Berserk 300.
...I rather dislike Sonia. I really do. I'd like Shelke to cave her face in, but she's been on a boat for like, a year.
Anyways, I know she's far from normal, but still. What happened to the manga I used to know where children would be traumatized out of their wits? Even if they've been raised around the strange and spiritual? Children still have hope and good will when Cthulu's rocking out?! Oh Kentaro...
Irvine the Hunter's apostle form is also somewhat lackluster, but eh. They can't all be Zodd. Or toothy penis monsters from hell.
Griffith really does very well to make you hate him, especially since we the audience have already seen through his saintly facade. But those in the manga are pretty much caught between a rock and a hard place right now. May as well go with the handsome devil than the giant cataclysmic one.
arp2008
12-04-2008, 11:33 PM
I probably shouldn't have read it because now I'm going crazy waiting for next month.:frown: Heh, he. I don't now how I've done it (maybe the weekly Naruto and Bleaches tiding me over every week is the cause) but I'm glad I've held out as long as I have. Those month long waits are killer.
arp2008
12-05-2008, 03:39 AM
To all those who tune in every week, Naruto Shippuden episode 86-87, subbed, has been released online. This was a good episode but the previews that followed were more notable. It appears we're instore for another arc or fillers, but this filler will be unlike any we've seen before. Rather than create an entire story from scratch they'll be using a couple breif scenes from the manga, like Tobi and Deidara's capture of the three tails and Sasuke's reintroduction surrouned by coutless defeated ninja, add new characters, sub-plots, and battles, and create an original story for the anime. I'm not too excited about this for filler is generally garbage. and expaning on an a scene that only took up four panals to tell in the manga will make for poor pacing and overall incosequencial and disposable plot. The anime was flourishly, too, episodes 85's remakeble animation being a unquestionable testemant to the incredible showcase we've had the pleasure of enjoying lately. Why they would want falter now with a lesser production is beyond me. *sigh*
Nik Hasta
12-05-2008, 05:51 AM
Irvine the Hunter's apostle form is also somewhat lackluster, but eh. They can't all be Zodd. Or toothy penis monsters from hell.
Agreed. He should stay in his human form and do epic arrow sniping some more.
Griffith really does very well to make you hate him, especially since we the audience have already seen through his saintly facade. But those in the manga are pretty much caught between a rock and a hard place right now. May as well go with the handsome devil than the giant cataclysmic one.
Have we seen through it?
I'm really annoyed because I can't figure out what his game plan is. I know he's a massive c*nt, possibly the biggest c*nt ever in fact, but thus far in the manga since his rebirth and a minor fracas with Guts, Griffith has been nothing but heroic, apparently honest, pulling together different groups in aid of saving the world and all round awesome guy.
If you've sussed his ulterior motive, please share.
GrampaGen
12-05-2008, 12:01 PM
Have we seen through it?
I'm really annoyed because I can't figure out what his game plan is. I know he's a massive c*nt, possibly the biggest c*nt ever in fact, but thus far in the manga since his rebirth and a minor fracas with Guts, Griffith has been nothing but heroic, apparently honest, pulling together different groups in aid of saving the world and all round awesome guy.
If you've sussed his ulterior motive, please share.
Ah, its not so much an ulterior motive, really.
It's just that he gets away with the 'Saint Griffith' thing after all the horrible stuff the viewing audience has seen him do already. It bugs me because the world needs him, but knowing Griffith, he's playing everybody somehow.
Probably just stacking the pile higher before it falls for him, I know, but it's like an itch I can't scratch. RRGH!
DoctorDoom
12-05-2008, 01:17 PM
Heys all. I'm curious, has anyone here checked out the new Dragon Ball Z ova? I haven't seen DBZ in awhile, but I loved the new opening, animation, and new characters. Plus, teh subtitles were more than decent.
Ghost
12-05-2008, 02:13 PM
So, I decided to try to read Soul Eater again, because it shares some characteristics with Shaman King, which I recently finished. (In the sense that you can "finish" Shaman King.)
Though, I'm not really sure what to make of it, honestly. It's not bad, but the premise is so... weird! I can't make sense of it. oO
arp2008
12-05-2008, 02:16 PM
So, I decided to try to read Soul Eater again, because it shares some characteristics with Shaman King, which I recently finished. (In the sense that you can "finish" Shaman King.)
Though, I'm not really sure what to make of it, honestly. It's not bad, but the premise is so... weird! I can't make sense of it. oO I saw an episode of the Soul Eater anime the other day other than some ridiculous looking character the action was bad at all. Pretty good, now that I think about. The animation was also delightful to watch when these character face off againts one another.
Kevin M.
12-05-2008, 02:37 PM
Something for the holidays (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbYXs7SlRv8)
Ghost
12-05-2008, 02:46 PM
I saw an episode of the Soul Eater anime the other day other than some ridiculous looking character the action was bad at all. Pretty good, now that I think about. The animation was also delightful to watch when these character face off againts one another.
Oh, I don't mind the action or the characters. I'm talking about the crazy ass premise.
I mean, are they in the real world, or some kind of death realm or something? They go to some kind of school that has the grim reaper himself as headmaster, and they get assignements to hunt down and kill people to devour their souls. And somehow that's regarded as totally okay. And I never got any context at all. oO
Is this stuff ever explained later on or does it just keep going like this?
A AMV I think is appropiate for this time of year.
Your link has no URL.
arp2008
12-05-2008, 02:52 PM
Oh, I don't mind the action or the characters. I'm talking about the crazy ass premise.
I mean, are they in the real world, or some kind of death realm or something? They go to some kind of school that has the grim reaper himself as headmaster, and they get assignements to hunt down and kill people to devour their souls. And somehow that's regarded as totally okay. And I never got any context at all. oO
Is this stuff ever explained later on or does it just keep going like this? I couldn't tell you. The episode I just saw was my first and perhaps my last only due the absurd looking coned shaped blue hair by who looks to be the main character. The animation is slick and the fight scenes are worth ones time, but as far story goes there's nothing I know about.
Kevin M.
12-05-2008, 02:58 PM
Your link has no URL.
Fixed the problem.
Ghost
12-05-2008, 03:28 PM
I couldn't tell you. The episode I just saw was my first and perhaps my last only due the absurd looking coned shaped blue hair by who looks to be the main character. The animation is slick and the fight scenes are worth ones time, but as far story goes there's nothing I know about.
That would be Black Star. I actually like the dude, but I don't think he's the main character. He's a bit too comic relief. (Even if he does have badass moments.)
Actually, so far I consider Maka the main character, which is part of the reason I'm still kinda interested. It's pretty rare to find a shonen with a female lead.
arp2008
12-05-2008, 03:37 PM
That would be Black Star. I actually like the dude, but I don't think he's the main character. He's a bit too comic relief. (Even if he does have badass moments.)
Actually, so far I consider Maka the main character, which is part of the reason I'm still kinda interested. It's pretty rare to find a shonen with a female lead.
So Blask Star isn't the main dude? Good. My chances of watching this anime agian just saw a slight uptick. Incidentally, who is Maka? I probably saw her but didn't know who she was.
FistofIron
12-05-2008, 03:45 PM
So Blask Star isn't the main dude? Good. My chances of watching this anime agian just saw a slight uptick. Incidentally, who is Maka? I probably saw her but didn't know who she was.
Maka is the chick with the scythe. I like her but she isn't as cool as Black Star or Death the Kid. Do you read the manga too or just watch is the anime?
Ghost
12-05-2008, 03:56 PM
So Blask Star isn't the main dude?
Nah. He does kinda look and behave like a stereotypical main dude, though, so I can see why you'd think so.
If anyone is the "main dude", it would be Soul Eater himself. Heck, his name is in the title. Still, I don't get much main character vibes from him. Hence why I think of Maka as the lead.
Which might be wishful thinking, but I'll hold on to it never the less.
Maka is the chick with the scythe. I like her but she isn't as cool as Black Star or Death the Kid.
"Cool" isn't the word I'd use about those two. More like "neurotic." ^^;
Do you read the manga too or just watch is the anime?
I tend to stick to manga by default.
arp2008
12-05-2008, 03:59 PM
Maka is the chick with the scythe. I like her but she isn't as cool as Black Star or Death the Kid. Do you read the manga too or just watch is the anime? I remember her now. Thats a pretty big scythe for such a small girl.
I've only seen one episode of the anime out of sheer bordom (In that one episode I found the visuals and action to be quite exceptional notwithstanding the deterringly stupid look of Blask Star's coif) and I've never read the mange.
FistofIron
12-05-2008, 11:40 PM
I remember her now. Thats a pretty big scythe for such a small girl.
I've only seen one episode of the anime out of sheer bordom (In that one episode I found the visuals and action to be quite exceptional notwithstanding the deterringly stupid look of Blask Star's coif) and I've never read the mange.
Soul Eater rocks as an anime and manga. I'd definately recommend checking out more of it.
yollyP.
12-06-2008, 06:46 AM
I want to know where to post the anime drawing of my daughter? She is so fond of anime/manga that she almost forget to eat just for her to complete her drawings. :confused:
Nik Hasta
12-06-2008, 07:06 AM
I want to know where to post the anime drawing of my daughter? She is so fond of anime/manga that she almost forget to eat just for her to complete her drawings. :confused:
There's an art-related forum elsewhere on the board though you might want to visit Deviantart.com or an art site like that.
arp2008
12-06-2008, 12:08 PM
Soul Eater rocks as an anime and manga. I'd definately recommend checking out more of it. I don't doubt you and I probably will given it anothr view given the fantastic actionand slick animation, but Black Star's coif is too ridiculous to tolerate. How do you stand it?
Dark Soul # 7
12-06-2008, 12:20 PM
New chapter of Rosario + Vampire II is up, not that anybody but me cares about it I think.
Neat chapter, a bloody fight, omnious foreshadowing and a happy ending to the snow-woman country arc.
Overall, I liked it and hopefully the events in the arc will have some kind of effect on Mizore, while still letting her be her stalker self.
FistofIron
12-06-2008, 03:04 PM
I don't doubt you and I probably will given it anothr view given the fantastic actionand slick animation, but Black Star's coif is too ridiculous to tolerate. How do you stand it?
Black Star is usually decked out in his ninja gear so you don't have to worry about his coif too much.
arp2008
12-06-2008, 03:09 PM
Black Star is usually decked out in his ninja gear so you don't have to worry about his coif too much. Good. I'd hate for such poor design choice to mar what looks to be a cool anime.
FistofIron
12-06-2008, 03:13 PM
Good. I'd hate for such poor design choice to mar what looks to be a cool anime.
What episode did you watch?
arp2008
12-06-2008, 03:31 PM
What episode did you watch? It was in the 30's. I can't recall the exact number but Maka, a kid in white with twin hand guns and strips and his hair, and Black Star were fighting a guy in a black suit with a top hat, gray mustache, and arm so big his legs looked like tooth picks. I originally thought that designs for some of the characters were stupid (namely Black Stars coif and the strips on the black haired kids head) but the exciting fighting that insued soon after is the only reason I didn't tune.
Legato
12-06-2008, 03:45 PM
I saw a vid of the new DBZ special. Are they setting up a possible series or something?
I wouldn't mind a new series but I would accept it if GT never existed
arp2008
12-06-2008, 04:02 PM
I saw a vid of the new DBZ special. Are they setting up a possible series or something? I doubt it, but it would be cool if they did begin start series detailing the events between the Cell and Majin Buu sagas. This being the seond special since the end of the DB franshise, they may just continue like this for time being.
I wouldn't mind a new series but I would accept it if GT never existed We all would.
FistofIron
12-06-2008, 04:03 PM
It was in the 30's. I can't recall the exact number but Maka, a kid in white with twin hand guns and strips and his hair, and Black Star were fighting a guy in a black suit with a top hat, gray mustache, and arm so big his legs looked like tooth picks. I originally thought that designs for some of the characters were stupid (namely Black Stars coif and the strips on the black haired kids head) but the exciting fighting that insued soon after is the only reason I didn't tune.
The designs can be a little odd at times but they have a cool style.
Anyone looking for a cool manga to get into read Zetman.
arp2008
12-06-2008, 04:04 PM
The designs can be a little odd at times but they have a cool style.
Anyone looking for a cool manga to get into read Zetman.What is Zetman?
Legato
12-06-2008, 04:13 PM
I doubt it, but it would be cool if they did begin start series detailing the events between the Cell and Majin Buu sagas. This being the seond special since the end of the DB franshise, they may just continue like this for time being.
We all would.
On a What If scenario should a new series happen, with the original creator calling the shots this time, I would have the new series try to fix what the last half of the Buu Saga and GT screwed up.
It is too late with Gohan but I would say keep Pan but make her less annoying like she was in GT. Have a actual father daughter relationship with her and Gohan instead of just ditching her folks to be with Goku.
Also if they really want to keep UUB and have Goku train him I would have Goku bring Goten along, the boy hardly ever got a chance to see his dad and I thought it was selfish and rude that Goku just abandoned his son just to train Uub.
I would have Gohan probably either train with Goku or go on some kind of training quest of his own. That way he could make up for the lack of training he had in GT. Maybe set up some adventures involving him and Pan.
I would also want it a blend between Dragonball and DBZ. More martial arts and less Ki attacks this time around. The ki attacks would still be needed but only as a last resort.
Naruto is a perfect example when blending martial arts and ki techniques.
arp2008
12-06-2008, 04:26 PM
On a What If scenario should a new series happen, with the original creator calling the shots this time, I would have the new series try to fix what the last half of the Buu Saga and GT screwed up. Hey, you thought the Buu saga and GT were terrible? Me too!!!
It is too late with Gohan but I would say keep Pan but make her less annoying like she was in GT. Have a actual father daughter relationship with her and Gohan instead of just ditching her folks to be with Goku. You thought she was annoying and you noticed the lack of a relation between her a Gohan? OMG so did I!!!!!
Also if they really want to keep UUB and have Goku train him I would have Goku bring Goten along, the boy hardly ever got a chance to see his dad and I thought it was selfish and rude that Goku just abandoned his son just to train Uub. Wow. We must share the same mind (except for our opinions on Smallville :biggrin: ). I agree wholeheartedly. I always thought it was reprobative for him to up and leave his family so suddenly.
I would have Gohan probably either train with Goku or go on some kind of training quest of his own. That way he could make up for the lack of training he had in GT. Maybe set up some adventures involving him and Pan. Gohan is easily the most disappointing character in the entire series. It was such a damn waste how powerful he became in the cell saga to only let that power wane and fester as he aged into a certified nerd. Not a fighter at heart Gohan wouldn't made the best companion for Goku, anyway.
I would also want it a blend between Dragonball and DBZ. More martial arts and less Ki attacks this time around. The ki attacks would still be needed but only as a last resort.
Naruto is a perfect example when blending martial arts and ki techniques. Yep. That wouldn't be a bad idea.
FistofIron
12-06-2008, 04:28 PM
What is Zetman?
It's an action sci fi manga. I'm still getting caught up but man has this manga been dark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zetman
arp2008
12-06-2008, 04:35 PM
It's an action sci fi manga. I'm still getting caught up but man has this manga been dark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZetmanThe guy on that cover certainly looks better than anyone in Soul Eater.
FistofIron
12-06-2008, 04:41 PM
The guy on that cover certainly looks better than anyone in Soul Eater.
I checked out a respect thread for it on forums.narutofan.com and I decided to give it a shot. I'm glad I decided to read it because its freakin amazing. The guy author who does the manga is a hell of a writer.
arp2008
12-06-2008, 04:44 PM
I checked out a respect thread for it on forums.narutofan.com and I decided to give it a shot. I'm glad I decided to read it because its freakin amazing. The guy author who does the manga is a hell of a writer.Is that right? At this point I'm almost convinced its worth my time. I think I may it a try.
Legato
12-06-2008, 04:44 PM
Hey, you thought the Buu saga and GT were terrible? Me too!!!
Dont get me wrong the Buu Saga had some good points. Like in the early parts involving Gohan and the development between him and Videl, they was trying to build up Gohan to be the hero but in the middle half of the Saga we all know how that went.
You thought she was annoying and you noticed the lack of a relation between her a Gohan? OMG so did I!!!!!
I thought she was a little bratty. Also I understand she looks up to Goku but why treat her parents like crap so that you can hang with him? Also the fact that she is hanging with a Kid Goku at all is rather creepy
I would say Pan with the personality of Katara from Avatar The Last Airbender would make her a little tolerable
Wow. We must share the same mind (except for our opinions on Smallville :biggrin: ). I agree wholeheartedly. I always thought it was reprobative for him to up and leave his family so suddenly.
If you have meet me a few seasons before the current Season of Smallville then I would have been one of those guys that say how much Smallville has suck. Come to think of it, before the current Season, I was like you in a way. If it wasn't for the new writers I probably would have taken consideration on dropping the show the minute Rosenbaum left since he practically carried the whole show.
What really shocked me about the Goku thing is howcome nobody called Goku out on how selfish his decision was? I mean if I were Goten I would hate Goku for choosing Uub over his own flesh and blood. Yet the DBZ guys just smiled and say way to go Goku.:rolleyes:
Gohan is easily the most disappointing character in the entire series. It was such a damn waste how powerful he became in the cell saga to only let that power wane and fester as he aged into a certified nerd. Not a fighter at heart Gohan wouldn't made the best companion for Goku, anyway.
Yep. That wouldn't be a bad idea.
At the start of the Buu Saga it was shown that Gohan was more dedicated in fighting, just wanted to blend having a normal life and being a martial artist at the same time. When he found out about Buu he tried to push himself into being ready to fight Buu.
A companion to Goku would be best suited for Goten as Im sure with Goku's training Goten would have been stronger but I think Gohan could have still trained to make up for what happened in the Buu Saga. Which is why I believe Gohan going on some kind of quest to advance his skills a little more better than what they were in the Buu Saga.
Ghost
12-06-2008, 04:50 PM
I don't doubt you and I probably will given it anothr view given the fantastic actionand slick animation, but Black Star's coif is too ridiculous to tolerate. How do you stand it?
I honestly don't consider black Star's hair very ridiculous. But then again, I liked both Tao Ren and Ryu from Shaman King and once you get used to their hairstyles you can tolerate a lot of silliness:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii258/animedevil093/ren.jpg
http://www.absoluteanime.com/shaman_king/rio.jpg
Soul Eater rocks as an anime and manga. I'd definately recommend checking out more of it.
So, does the concept start making sense at some point?
Legato
12-06-2008, 04:55 PM
I'm pissed at how they nerfed Piccolo in the Buu Saga.
To being scared of a punk like Supreme Kai and being bossed around by not only Kid Trunks and Goten, but Bulma&Chi-Chi too?
:rolleyes:
Goddamn, the real Piccolo would have bent Supreme Kai over his knee and tossed the wuss away, but nooooooooo
Piccolo was the scariest character alive back in the early parts of DBZ. Some of the DBZ villains would nearly crap themselves at the sight of him because they knew once he challenge them to a fight they are completly screwed.
We are talking about the same guy who fought one of the Androids to a draw while the rest of the DBZ gang had trouble with them
Piccolo was the scariest character alive back in the early parts of DBZ. Some of the DBZ villains would nearly crap themselves at the sight of him because they knew once he challenge them to a fight they are completly screwed.
We are talking about the same guy who fought one of the Androids to a draw while the rest of the DBZ gang had trouble with them
Hell yeah. Even in fights where he was outmatched, he came up with good enough plans that he could last against them.
Hell, he took a total scrub like Gohan and turned him into a beast with one year of training.
He saved everyone during the Frieza battle, and even saved Goku against Frieza's fourth form.
After training his butt off in preparation for the Androids, he's strong enough to pound 20 even after getting his energy drained.
After fusing with Kami, he beats up on early Cell and goes to a draw against 17
For crying out loud, he jumped into the battle against Super Perfect Cell despite the vast power difference in order to help Gohan even slightly.
And yet somehow, Supreme Kai, Goten and Kid Trunks can walk over him?
:rolleyes: :evilangry:
Legato
12-06-2008, 05:08 PM
Hell yeah. Even in fights where he was outmatched, he came up with good enough plans that he could last against them.
Hell, he took a total scrub like Gohan and turned him into a beast with one year of training.
He saved everyone during the Frieza battle, and even saved Goku against Frieza's fourth form.
After training his butt off in preparation for the Androids, he's strong enough to pound 20 even after getting his energy drained.
After fusing with Kami, he beats up on early Cell and goes to a draw against 17
For crying out loud, he jumped into the battle against Super Perfect Cell despite the vast power difference in order to help Gohan even slightly.
And yet somehow, Supreme Kai, Goten and Kid Trunks can walk over him?
:rolleyes: :evilangry:
At that time Akira was probably at the point whare he didn't care anymore. The fans and the editors wanted it all to be about Goku and the Sayjins saving the day. So Akira was like screw it, you can tell from the later half of the Buu saga that Akira just didn't care. It is like End of Evangelion when it comes to how bad the character derailment went.
I mean take a look at Gohan. He was a badass in the Cell Saga but he got spanked by a minion of Babidi, who in turn easily got killed by Buu, Gohan had two humiliating showings against Buu while Trunks and Goten came close to killing Buu in his Super Buu form.
The human fighters barely had any involvement at all. Remember back when Yamcha was even a pretty good fighter to hang with the villains, Krillen lasted a good while in the Frieza saga before he got killed. Chaotzu became as useless as Pre-Time Skip Sakura.
arp2008
12-06-2008, 05:10 PM
Dont get me wrong the Buu Saga had some good points. Like in the early parts involving Gohan and the development between him and Videl, they was trying to build up Gohan to be the hero but in the middle half of the Saga we all know how that went. I felt his burgoening relationship with Videl was rather forced and unconvincing. She was such a bitch with such a intolerable father I can't imagine what he saw in her at all. OMG you won't believe what came to mind. The mother f*cking Great Saiya man. Thinking of the name makes me cringe worse than the sight of that awful outfit.
I thought she was a little bratty. Also I understand she looks up to Goku but why treat her parents like crap so that you can hang with him? Also the fact that she is hanging with a Kid Goku at all is rather creepy I hated Kid Goku in GT. His obsession with fighting was to the point were he'd selfishly tell everyone else to back off so he could have all thrills himself. I hated him like that. His character changes so immensly from the days where he'd actually stay home and look after his family rather than going out to seek new people to bash his face in its revolting. Whats an even more or a surpirsing change is how domesticated Vegeta became. The prince of all saiyan actually went shopping with his daughter. Ugh. While it was funny to see him with Bra in a car full of bags, it made me throw up a little.
I would say Pan with the personality of Katara from Avatar The Last Airbender would make her a little tolerable I've never seen Avatar but I here it's spectacular.
If you have meet me a few seasons before the current Season of Smallville then I would have been one of those guys that say how much Smallville has suck. Come to think of it, before the current Season, I was like you in a way. If it wasn't for the new writers I probably would have taken consideration on dropping the show the minute Rosenbaum left since he practically carried the whole show. You actually didn't praise Smallville at one time? :eek: WHAT!??????????????? (just kidding)
What really shocked me about the Goku thing is howcome nobody called Goku out on how selfish his decision was? I mean if I were Goten I would hate Goku for choosing Uub over his own flesh and blood. Yet the DBZ guys just smiled and say way to go Goku.:rolleyes: The same to came to mind. Chichi is the only one who seemed generally surprised her husband was leaving her to train a kid he met a few secons earlier. You know whats even more angering? That when he turned into a kid he went back to the poeple he abaonded for whatever amount of years and they actually helped him. Goku became such a dick. Damn.
At the start of the Buu Saga it was shown that Gohan was more dedicated in fighting, just wanted to blend having a normal life and being a martial artist at the same time. When he found out about Buu he tried to push himself into being ready to fight Buu. Yea, but he proved to be worthless in that saga in the long run. His only real contribution
was giving Buu more power and looking like a bubbling idot when Goku tossed him the fussion earing.
A companion to Goku would be best suited for Goten as Im sure with Goku's training Goten would have been stronger but I think Gohan could have still trained to make up for what happened in the Buu Saga. Which is why I believe Gohan going on some kind of quest to advance his skills a little more better than what they were in the Buu Saga. Goten was more into causing mischief with trunks and chasing girls then training. You could see at the end of DBZ that he wasn't enjoying getting trounced by Goku.
At that time Akira was probably at the point whare he didn't care anymore. The fans and the editors wanted it all to be about Goku and the Sayjins saving the day. So Akira was like screw it, you can tell from the later half of the Buu saga that Akira just didn't care. It is like End of Evangelion when it comes to how bad the character derailment went.
I mean take a look at Gohan. He was a badass in the Cell Saga but he got spanked by a minion of Babidi, who in turn easily got killed by Buu, Gohan had two humiliating showings against Buu while Trunks and Goten came close to killing Buu in his Super Buu form.
The human fighters barely had any involvement at all. Remember back when Yamcha was even a pretty good fighter to hang with the villains, Krillen lasted a good while in the Frieza saga before he got killed. Chaotzu became as useless as Pre-Time Skip Sakura.
Chaotzu has always been like that.:tongue:
Gohan was going at it just fine with Dabura, the fight just got interrupted because Vegeta was shooting his mouth off.
Gohan beat the daylights out of Super Buu with his bare hands after his Mystic Powerup, but then got spanked by Gotenks-Buu.
And yeah, the humans were nerfed horribly.
FistofIron
12-06-2008, 05:11 PM
At that time Akira was probably at the point whare he didn't care anymore. The fans and the editors wanted it all to be about Goku and the Sayjins saving the day. So Akira was like screw it, you can tell from the later half of the Buu saga that Akira just didn't care. It is like End of Evangelion when it comes to how bad the character derailment went.
I mean take a look at Gohan. He was a badass in the Cell Saga but he got spanked by a minion of Babidi, who in turn easily got killed by Buu, Gohan had two humiliating showings against Buu while Trunks and Goten came close to killing Buu in his Super Buu form.
The human fighters barely had any involvement at all. Remember back when Yamcha was even a pretty good fighter to hang with the villains, Krillen lasted a good while in the Frieza saga before he got killed. Chaotzu became as useless as Pre-Time Skip Sakura.
I still can't believe what became of Krillen, Yamcha, and Tien.
arp2008
12-06-2008, 05:12 PM
I'm pissed at how they nerfed Piccolo in the Buu Saga.
To being scared of a punk like Supreme Kai and being bossed around by not only Kid Trunks and Goten, but Bulma&Chi-Chi too?
:rolleyes:
Goddamn, the real Piccolo would have bent Supreme Kai over his knee and tossed the wuss away, but nooooooooo That pretty much happened to everyone save for Goku. Is practially the only character who fought in GT.
arp2008
12-06-2008, 05:15 PM
So, does the concept start making sense at some point? LOL..............
arp2008
12-06-2008, 05:17 PM
At that time Akira was probably at the point whare he didn't care anymore. The fans and the editors wanted it all to be about Goku and the Sayjins saving the day. So Akira was like screw it, you can tell from the later half of the Buu saga that Akira just didn't care. It is like End of Evangelion when it comes to how bad the character derailment went.
I mean take a look at Gohan. He was a badass in the Cell Saga but he got spanked by a minion of Babidi, who in turn easily got killed by Buu, Gohan had two humiliating showings against Buu while Trunks and Goten came close to killing Buu in his Super Buu form.
The human fighters barely had any involvement at all. Remember back when Yamcha was even a pretty good fighter to hang with the villains, Krillen lasted a good while in the Frieza saga before he got killed. Chaotzu became as useless as Pre-Time Skip Sakura. The same who did DBZ didn't do GT. This is the most understandable explanation for the crapfest we got in the latter.
Legato
12-06-2008, 05:19 PM
Chaotzu has always been like that.:tongue:
Gohan was going at it just fine with Dabura, the fight just got interrupted because Vegeta was shooting his mouth off.
Gohan beat the daylights out of Super Buu with his bare hands after his Mystic Powerup, but then got spanked by Gotenks-Buu.
And yeah, the humans were nerfed horribly.
Speaking of Chaotzu am I the only one that got that Batman and Robin vibe from them? I mean Yamcha dated Bulma at one time and Krillen dated a few times before he settled down with 18 but Tien hardly became involved with anyone.
You only see him and Chaotzu together.
I remembered that. It was back when Goten and Trunks distracted Gohan to the point that it gave Buu the opening he needed to absorb Goten and Trunks right?
Legato
12-06-2008, 05:29 PM
I felt his burgoening relationship with Videl was rather forced and unconvincing. She was such a bitch with such a intolerable father I can't imagine what he saw in her at all. OMG you won't believe what came to mind. The mother f*cking Great Saiya man. Thinking of the name makes me cringe worse than the sight of that awful outfit.
Wasn't the wisest of Gohan's decisions. That and posing as if he were auditioning to become a member of the Ginyu Force.
I hated Kid Goku in GT. His obsession with fighting was to the point were he'd selfishly tell everyone else to back off so he could have all thrills himself. I hated him like that. His character changes so immensly from the days where he'd actually stay home and look after his family rather than going out to seek new people to bash his face in its revolting. Whats an even more or a surpirsing change is how domesticated Vegeta became. The prince of all saiyan actually went shopping with his daughter. Ugh. While it was funny to see him with Bra in a car full of bags, it made me throw up a little.
While surprising it atleast showed that he is a better father than Goku ever was. He actually bothered to spend time with his kids but Goku cant take a few minutes off of his training schedual to do the same with his.
I've never seen Avatar but I here it's spectacular.
Get the DVD's or try to catch the replays on Nick. It is a pretty good show
You actually didn't praise Smallville at one time? :eek: WHAT!??????????????? (just kidding)
At the time the only praise I would have on Smallville was how good of a performance Rosenbaum has done as Lex or the near possibility that Lana Lang might have gotten killed off.
The same to came to mind. Chichi is the only one who seemed generally surprised her husband was leaving her to train a kid he met a few secons earlier. You know whats even more angering? That when he turned into a kid he went back to the poeple he abaonded for whatever amount of years and they actually helped him. Goku became such a dick. Damn.
Huge character derailment thare. Because in the early parts of DBZ while Goku is a dedicated martial artist he genually cares about his family. So I was about as surprised as Chichi was when Goku made his decision
Len Ikari145
12-06-2008, 05:35 PM
Wasn't the wisest of Gohan's decisions. That and posing as if he were auditioning to become a member of the Ginyu Force.
While surprising it atleast showed that he is a better father than Goku ever was. He actually bothered to spend time with his kids but Goku cant take a few minutes off of his training schedual to do the same with his.
Get the DVD's or try to catch the replays on Nick. It is a pretty good show
At the time the only praise I would have on Smallville was how good of a performance Rosenbaum has done as Lex or the near possibility that Lana Lang might have gotten killed off.
Huge character derailment thare. Because in the early parts of DBZ while Goku is a dedicated martial artist he genually cares about his family. So I was about as surprised as Chichi was when Goku made his decision
The only consolation is that according to Akira Toriyama's original manga is that there's nothing definitive about his current status with Ubuu. We don't know whether he stayed with him as in GT, or if he just decided to visit the kid and train him every now and again.
arp2008
12-06-2008, 05:49 PM
Wasn't the wisest of Gohan's decisions. That and posing as if he were auditioning to become a member of the Ginyu Force. I loved the Ginyu Force! Those were the days. DBZ was never better.
While surprising it atleast showed that he is a better father than Goku ever was. He actually bothered to spend time with his kids but Goku cant take a few minutes off of his training schedual to do the same with his. Gohan? He never spent time with. Not time that we say, anyway.
Get the DVD's or try to catch the replays on Nick. It is a pretty good show I've seen the show a couple. Not my cup of hot cocoa.
Huge character derailment thare. Because in the early parts of DBZ while Goku is a dedicated martial artist he genually cares about his family. So I was about as surprised as Chichi was when Goku made his decisionOh man he was such a huge a-hole.
Ghost
12-06-2008, 06:55 PM
LOL..............
I take that as a no?
arp2008
12-06-2008, 07:07 PM
I take that as a no?
I wouldn't know.
Nik Hasta
12-06-2008, 08:26 PM
What is Zetman?
Freakin' awesome is what it is!
FistofIron
12-06-2008, 08:34 PM
Freakin' awesome is what it is!
I just started about two days ago and I'm hooked!!!!!!!
Ghost
12-09-2008, 01:37 PM
Okay, I've got to admit... Soul Eater is pretty damn good.
The story feels a bit rushed at times, as if there isn't a lot of buildup for the crazy stuff that goes down once stuff gets rolling. Still, it's easy to get into things once you get used to it. Otherwise, it has likable characters, terrific action and a sense of aesthetics that kinda grows on me the more I read.
Oh, and I was right about Maka. Even though Soul Eater himself has a major part to play, and he and Maka pretty much share the spotlight on a constant basis, I feel the plot is more driven by Maka's actions and decisions. (Plus she does most of the fighting.) Making her probably the first legit female Shounen main protagonist I've seen so far. Yay for equality!
Also, Medusa kicks ass. I'm honestly split even about whether I should hate her for being such an evil biatch or worship her for being such a huge boss! One of the best villains I've seen in a while. oO
Overall, recommended.
Dark Soul # 7
12-09-2008, 01:44 PM
So what's on everybody's list of mangas to check out in 2009.
Personally I'm going to try out Shaman King, Soul Eater and finish Kekkaishi.
Ghost
12-09-2008, 02:15 PM
So what's on everybody's list of mangas to check out in 2009.
Couldn't say. I never plan my manga reading out ahead of time. Depends on what I feel like looking into, really.
Personally I'm going to try out Shaman King, Soul Eater and finish Kekkaishi.
Shaman King is pure win. http://forums.comicbookresources.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Never heard of Kekkaishi, though.
Dark Soul # 7
12-09-2008, 02:40 PM
Shaman King is pure win. http://forums.comicbookresources.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Never heard of Kekkaishi, though.It's a pretty cool shounen manga about a boy and a girl, Yoshimori Sumimura and Tokine Yukimura, from seperate families, both sworn to protect their land from evil spirit/demons. Their school highschool is built on mystical site called Karasumori. It's a place where a feudal lord from ancient times was burried and is now the main attractions for all the evil visiting the land. So that's where most of the battles are fought, at least as far as I've read. At night Yoshimori and Tokine go out to keep the land safe from any invaders and by day they try to go along as regular students as well as advising normal ghosts to stay away from Karasumori so that they don't become corrupted. There's also a rivalry between the two families, a mystery regarding what Karasumori really is and a conspiracy from a, at first glance, typical demon group.
I'm sorry, I'm really doing it no justice at all. But it's a good series. The characters aren't aways what they seem, Yoshimori for example has one of the most original dreams I've seen in a shounen fighting manga protagonist, and the storyline is a mix of an epic main part and some smaller humerous or surprisingly touching storylines. And the action is quite interesting.
They protagonists here don't throw around energyblasts or superstrong punches. They have to capture an opponent inside a square barrier and then blow up said barrier with the opponent inside it. These barriers can be created in any size and length as long as it's square. They can also be used as plattforms and shields. So, it's really an interesting way of fighting.
Anyway, I'd recommend it to anyone because of the solid storytelling and interesting characters.
FistofIron
12-10-2008, 03:17 AM
Okay, I've got to admit... Soul Eater is pretty damn good.
The story feels a bit rushed at times, as if there isn't a lot of buildup for the crazy stuff that goes down once stuff gets rolling. Still, it's easy to get into things once you get used to it. Otherwise, it has likable characters, terrific action and a sense of aesthetics that kinda grows on me the more I read.
Oh, and I was right about Maka. Even though Soul Eater himself has a major part to play, and he and Maka pretty much share the spotlight on a constant basis, I feel the plot is more driven by Maka's actions and decisions. (Plus she does most of the fighting.) Making her probably the first legit female Shounen main protagonist I've seen so far. Yay for equality!
Also, Medusa kicks ass. I'm honestly split even about whether I should hate her for being such an evil biatch or worship her for being such a huge boss! One of the best villains I've seen in a while. oO
Overall, recommended.
Cool you've become a Soul Eater fan.:biggrin:
What chapter are you on?
Dark Soul # 7
12-10-2008, 03:29 PM
Ah, that felt good.
For some reasons I was away from Kekkaishi for two months, but now I jumped right into it and it's still as kickass as ever.
master of read
12-10-2008, 04:10 PM
well personally i've just started to get into until death do us part. very nice little action manga with some romance, if you can count a 12 year old girl loving a blind swords man with a reckless side.
Here's some humor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrucisqZswo
Len Ikari145
12-10-2008, 04:45 PM
well personally i've just started to get into until death do us part. very nice little action manga with some romance, if you can count a 12 year old girl loving a blind swords man with a reckless side.
Man, more lolicon. And reckless blindswordman, you say? Good, I'm getting tired of those cool, reticent types. They tend to become monotonos after you've read about them too many times. So, how badass is he?
arp2008
12-10-2008, 05:49 PM
New Dragonbal Evolution(yes, they changed the title. Does it make sense? Nope. But neither does this movies creation) trailer is up, folkfs. What you think? Worth the admission price now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo4t8PeqJ6E&feature=channel_page
New Dragonbal Evolution(yes, they changed the title. Does it make sense? Nope. But neither does this movies creation) trailer is up, folkfs. What you think? Worth the admission price now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo4t8PeqJ6E&feature=channel_page
I'll wait for the DVD.
arp2008
12-10-2008, 06:00 PM
I'll wait for the DVD.
This I'll be an online viewing for me.
What did you think of the Goku's kamahamaha at the end?
This I'll be an online viewing for me.
What did you think of the Goku's kamahamaha at the end?
I think he was doing it with one hand at the very end there.
Regardless, it seems Piccolo is still a city nuker.
Len Ikari145
12-10-2008, 06:22 PM
New Dragonbal Evolution(yes, they changed the title. Does it make sense? Nope. But neither does this movies creation) trailer is up, folkfs. What you think? Worth the admission price now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo4t8PeqJ6E&feature=channel_page
Urge to destroy...rising....
arp2008
12-10-2008, 06:32 PM
I think he was doing it with one hand at the very end there.
Regardless, it seems Piccolo is still a city nuker. This is DBZ, or rather a poor interpretation of it, after all. These guys can nuke entire planets with a mere sneeze.
arp2008
12-10-2008, 06:35 PM
Do you guys think a Naruto live action movie would serve as a more acceptable and successful live action adaptation than DBZ?
Ghost
12-11-2008, 06:10 AM
Cool you've become a Soul Eater fan.:biggrin:
What chapter are you on?
27. Arachne recently showed up (I still like her sister a lot better) and Black Star is going to fight Mifune.
New Dragonbal Evolution(yes, they changed the title. Does it make sense? Nope. But neither does this movies creation) trailer is up, folkfs. What you think? Worth the admission price now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo4t8PeqJ6E&feature=channel_page
It looks like a decent action movie, but... it doesn't really look like Dragonball, does it? oO
Do you guys think a Naruto live action movie would serve as a more acceptable and successful live action adaptation than DBZ?
I honestly think live action versions of popular manga is a bad idea to begin with. As for acceptable, I think that would be too much to ask from your average fan regardless of quality.
That said, I think it would end up a lot worse, for no other reason then that I consider the story of Naruto to be far superior to that of Dragonball and I really don't think they'd be able to do that justice. Especially not in a single feature film.
Dark Soul # 7
12-11-2008, 09:31 AM
New Dragonbal Evolution(yes, they changed the title. Does it make sense? Nope. But neither does this movies creation) trailer is up, folkfs. What you think? Worth the admission price now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo4t8PeqJ6E&feature=channel_pageI think it looks like a pretty good action movie. But, like Ghost said, it's not really a true Dragonball movie.
Though, if we're all willing to see past that I think that most of us could get a nice popcorn-kick out of it. Just pretend that it's a movie called... Phoenixsphere or something like that.:smile:
Kevin M.
12-11-2008, 12:06 PM
I think it looks like a pretty good action movie. But, like Ghost said, it's not really a true Dragonball movie.
Though, if we're all willing to see past that I think that most of us could get a nice popcorn-kick out of it. Just pretend that it's a movie called... Phoenixsphere or something like that.:smile:
If you go to that movie with this approach, your probably going to somewhat enjoy, to being entertained by it. But, if your going for an actually DB movie...........
Ghost
12-11-2008, 12:42 PM
You know, reading Soul Eater, it occurs to me that Black Star is pretty much what you'd get if you'd take Naruto and Sasuke and put them together into a single person. oO;
FistofIron
12-11-2008, 12:48 PM
You know, reading Soul Eater, it occurs to me that Black Star is pretty much what you'd get if you'd take Naruto and Sasuke and put them together into a single person. oO;
I never though of it like that. I believe your right he does have characteristics of both of them.
Did you read chapters 27 and 28?
Dark Soul # 7
12-11-2008, 12:49 PM
If you go to that movie with this approach, your probably going to somewhat enjoy, to being entertained by it. But, if your going for an actually DB movie...........Yeah, if I went to the movie expecting to see something more like what I'd expect a proper live-action DB(Z) movie to be then I'll be disappointed.
The approach I described is my way of dealing with it.
In short, consider the trailers as warnings that allow you to prepare for a coming storm.
Ghost
12-11-2008, 02:38 PM
I never though of it like that. I believe your right he does have characteristics of both of them.
Did you read chapters 27 and 28?
Actually, I just finished chapter 55, having now caught up with One Manga.
Dark Soul # 7
12-12-2008, 03:20 AM
I've become interested in the dubbed version of an anime called Shuffle!.
Has anybody else seen it?
arp2008
12-12-2008, 09:51 PM
"According to the Anime News Network a movie based on the Eureka Seven anime series from Studio Bones will debut in Japan during “Golden Week”"...
Continued - http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/13905.html
Len Ikari145
12-12-2008, 11:00 PM
I've become interested in the dubbed version of an anime called Shuffle!.
Has anybody else seen it?
Yup. Have you got up to Kaede's "I've suffered a complete mental and emotional breakdown due to my chronic dependency on my proclaimed Raison d'Ętre and OCD, and tried to kill my best friend" moment yet? Carrie Savage totally FUBARed Yuko Goto's performance in that moment.
Kevin M.
12-12-2008, 11:30 PM
The Yama vs Nico Robin fight dubbed by Funimation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppoo-317azU
Funimation continues to wash the taint of 4 Kids with each passing episode.
Dark Soul # 7
12-13-2008, 05:31 AM
Yup. Have you got up to Kaede's "I've suffered a complete mental and emotional breakdown due to my chronic dependency on my proclaimed Raison d'Ętre and OCD, and tried to kill my best friend" moment yet? Carrie Savage totally FUBARed Yuko Goto's performance in that moment.Nope, but I have heard about something like that. I'm not even at episode 10 yet.
I think I like Asa and Nerine the most out of the girls so far. Yes I'm a big shipping nerd, sue me.
Dark Soul # 7
12-13-2008, 01:54 PM
*after reading Kekkaishi 153*
Huh, dropping a water dragon inside a seemingly pissed off mystical land so that the two divine creatures would mess with each other and said mystical land could let off some steam, all while your son is in the middle of it all, and you don't even greet him.
Well, that's one way for a mother to interact with her son.
Jeremi
12-13-2008, 02:00 PM
Okay, I've got to admit... Soul Eater is pretty damn good.
It really is, it's probably one of my favorite anime/manga right know. One of the few animes where I actually like all of the main cast and Medusa is bad ass.
I just finished Mai HiME which I quite enjoyed, though I'm pretty stuck at the moment to what anime I should pick up next. I was planning on watching Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan, has anyone watched it?
FistofIron
12-13-2008, 02:29 PM
I just read chapter 56 of Soul Eater and it was great as usual. The fight between Black Star and Mifune is becoming more interesting and I can't wait until the next chapter.
I also read the new Katekyo Hitman Reborn! chapter and I have to wit until next week to see how powerful the Varia have become. I can't wait until Xanxus shows up that guy is gonna be insanely powerful.
Ghost
12-13-2008, 03:38 PM
Out of boredom, I just watched the first episode of Shakugan No Shana. I found it kinda interesting, but also disturbing. Reminds me a bit of Fate/Stay Night.
It really is, it's probably one of my favorite anime/manga right know. One of the few animes where I actually like all of the main cast and Medusa is bad ass.
Word. I hope she gets her original body back. (And that the little girl gets to go back to her family.)
I just finished Mai HiME which I quite enjoyed,
So, what did you think of the ending? There's been a lot of controversy as to whether it rocked or sucked.
I just read chapter 56 of Soul Eater and it was great as usual. The fight between Black Star and Mifune is becoming more interesting and I can't wait until the next chapter.
Word. (Again.) I was slightly surprised at how much I ended up liking Black Star.
I love how he's become the designated diversion, and that the others actually take advantage of his mindless head-on charges against the enemy. :biggrin:
Jeremi
12-14-2008, 12:44 AM
Word. I hope she gets her original body back. (And that the little girl gets to go back to her family.)
Yeah me too.
So, what did you think of the ending? There's been a lot of controversy as to whether it rocked or sucked.
It didn't bother me, I can tell you that, having watch a lot of animes with downer endings like Gurren Lagan for example this was a nice change of pace. I'd give the ending a score somewhere in the middle.
Dark Soul # 7
12-14-2008, 03:18 AM
Having read chapter 129 of to-love-ru, yes I read and enjoy it, I have to say that Celine... is the CUTEST little manga character EVER! And not in the creepy loli way. She's just cute.
I mean, look at her.
She's adorable!
Ghost
12-14-2008, 08:25 AM
Yeah me too.
It didn't bother me, I can tell you that, having watch a lot of animes with downer endings like Gurren Lagan for example this was a nice change of pace. I'd give the ending a score somewhere in the middle.
I loved it, personally, but that was because I found the second half of that show overly depressing and at that point I really craved a majorly happy ending to make up for it, deus ex machina be damned.
Having read chapter 129 of to-love-ru, yes I read and enjoy it, I have to say that Celine... is the CUTEST little manga character EVER! And not in the creepy loli way. She's just cute.
I mean, look at her.
She's adorable!
I dunno, she's a bit too SD for my taste.
Dark Soul # 7
12-14-2008, 09:08 AM
I dunno, she's a bit too SD for my taste.:confused: ...I have no idea what SD means.
Also, STOCKHOLM RAGE!
Ghost
12-14-2008, 10:24 AM
:confused: ...I have no idea what SD means.
"Super Deformed". What some people tend to call "chibi", though chibi is actually noticeably different.
Also, STOCKHOLM RAGE!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/11/JonouchiToei.PNG/180px-JonouchiToei.PNG
Jeremi
12-14-2008, 11:47 AM
I loved it, personally, but that was because I found the second half of that show overly depressing and at that point I really craved a majorly happy ending to make up for it, deus ex machina be damned.
It was the same for me, it did a 180 turn in terms of the mood so I was glad they got a happy ending. BTW started watching Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan, the anime's rather funny (and short) so I think I'll watch the whole anime.
EDIT: Just read chapter 56 of Soul Eater...I just have one thing to say. :mad:
FistofIron
12-14-2008, 02:37 PM
Word. (Again.) I was slightly surprised at how much I ended up liking Black Star.
I love how he's become the designated diversion, and that the others actually take advantage of his mindless head-on charges against the enemy. :biggrin:
I've always like Black Star he's just made of win. I can't wait until Stein comes back.
Dark Soul # 7
12-14-2008, 04:05 PM
"Super Deformed". What some people tend to call "chibi", though chibi is actually noticeably different.Ok, that's a fair judgement then. Still... I think that she's just overloadingly adorable!:biggrin:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/11/JonouchiToei.PNG/180px-JonouchiToei.PNG...damn. If you squint a little there's actually a resemblance.
*sigh* First Jonas Gardell and now Joey Wheeler.
Ghost
12-14-2008, 05:47 PM
Ok, that's a fair judgement then. Still... I think that she's just overloadingly adorable!:biggrin:
I know I've seen manga characters I found more adorable, but I can't think of any. ><
...damn. If you squint a little there's actually a resemblance.
*sigh* First Jonas Gardell and now Joey Wheeler.
That kinda went completely over my head.
I don't really see what Jonas Gardell has to do with Joey Wheeler, and I'm honestly a bit scared to find out. oO
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5185/motivationalyoumadethemiu4.jpg
Enjoy.
Darth Joker
12-14-2008, 08:24 PM
Out of boredom, I just watched the first episode of Shakugan No Shana. I found it kinda interesting, but also disturbing. Reminds me a bit of Fate/Stay Night.
The first two episodes of Shana are very disturbing, but it's almost all up-hill from there.
Jeremi
12-15-2008, 12:09 AM
That kinda went completely over my head.
I don't really see what Jonas Gardell has to do with Joey Wheeler, and I'm honestly a bit scared to find out. oO
So does that mean Tristan Taylor is Mark Levengood? :confused:
Dark Soul # 7
12-15-2008, 01:54 AM
That kinda went completely over my head.
I don't really see what Jonas Gardell has to do with Joey Wheeler, and I'm honestly a bit scared to find out. oOGood... Because if you did find out what I meant I will have to hurt you...:evilsmile:
Ghost
12-15-2008, 02:30 AM
The first two episodes of Shana are very disturbing, but it's almost all up-hill from there.
That's good to know. It doesn't seem like a bad show, and I'd hate to be turned away from it just because of the mood.
So does that mean Tristan Taylor is Mark Levengood? :confused:
Good Lord, I hope not! :eek:
That would shatter my fragile perceptions of the world and launch me screaming into the mouth of madness!
Good... Because if you did find out what I meant I will have to hurt you...:evilsmile:
Please, keep your dark and horrible secrets, I beg you! oO
Jeremi
12-15-2008, 04:09 AM
Good Lord, I hope not! :eek:
That would shatter my fragile perceptions of the world and launch me screaming into the mouth of madness!
You know in a crazy way everything fits...:biggrin:...:smile:...:eek:
Dark Soul # 7
12-15-2008, 06:44 AM
Good Lord, I hope not! :eek:
That would shatter my fragile perceptions of the world and launch me screaming into the mouth of madness!It's not that bad, I promise.
I mean, this guy seems to enjoy it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb8fWUUXeKM&feature
And just look at this healthy young girl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p6JKV7kA2Q
Please, keep your dark and horrible secrets, I beg you! oO...will you offer me some form of tribute to see to that I do keep to myself?:evilsmile:
arp2008
12-17-2008, 07:15 PM
Who's heard of or seen Gunslinger Girl? Heres a trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL9DQXrwmF4&feature=channel_page
arp2008
12-17-2008, 11:27 PM
Keanu Reeves Eager To Do ‘Something Good’ With ‘Cowboy Bebop’ Movie
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/12/17/keanu-reeves-eager-to-do-something-good-with-cowboy-bebop-movie/
As one who loves Cowboy Bebop, I'm reasonably conserned about this. What say you guys? Think he'll pull it off, or have fans world wide lamenting?
yollyP.
12-18-2008, 02:34 AM
countless afficionados of manga anime. I can't blame why my children are hooked into this type of comic characters. From the reading paper to the newly bought school paper, all with drawings of anime...:frown:
cosmic eagle
12-18-2008, 03:18 AM
Out of boredom, I just watched the first episode of Shakugan No Shana. I found it kinda interesting, but also disturbing. Reminds me a bit of Fate/Stay Night.
Shana is awesome. Now I'm just hoping I can get the entire novel collection to date. Damned Viz is taking too long to release them (two per year WTH?). Guess I'll have to go get the Chinese versions. Taiwan should have them but alas I ain't going there anytime soon.
BTW, who else thinks that the ultimate villian of SnS isn't the Snake but Alastor and that Bel Masque are actually the good guys?
cosmic eagle
12-18-2008, 03:19 AM
countless afficionados of manga anime. I can't blame why my children are hooked into this type of comic characters. From the reading paper to the newly bought school paper, all with drawings of anime...:frown:
Hey, they're good no? Hence why people love them.
Ghost
12-18-2008, 11:58 AM
Keanu Reeves Eager To Do ‘Something Good’ With ‘Cowboy Bebop’ Movie
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/12/17/keanu-reeves-eager-to-do-something-good-with-cowboy-bebop-movie/
As one who loves Cowboy Bebop, I'm reasonably conserned about this. What say you guys? Think he'll pull it off, or have fans world wide lamenting?
...Seriously? We're talking about Keanu Reeves. The man is arguable the worst actor in the world in proportion to what he earns. There is no way he'd "pull off" Spike Spiegel.
BTW, who else thinks that the ultimate villian of SnS isn't the Snake but Alastor and that Bel Masque are actually the good guys?
I hope not. I like Alastor; guy's funny. :smile:
arp2008
12-18-2008, 12:03 PM
...Seriously? We're talking about Keanu Reeves. The man is arguable the worst actor in the world in proportion to what he earns. There is no way he'd "pull off" Spike Spiegel. Wow. You really think he's that bad?
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