So i was just wondering, Is Superman a Democrat or a Republican?

[Xybernauts]

I was thinking, Superman's really patriotic right. So he must believe in the importance of voting. So what is Superman's political party? Democrat, Republican, Independent, or Libertarian?

I assume Lex is clearly Republican, or an I wrong? And how about Lois of that matter?

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Superman was quite clearly a FDR Democrat when he was originally concieved, then slowly became a Republican stooge during the Fifties, a Kennedy-ite in the sixties, was most certainly a Ronnie Republican during the Byrne Super-Yuppie.

These days, he's an Obama Democrat, most certainly.

Afterall, they are related. Got the same Dad an' all.

[WorstThingUS]

I was thinking, Superman's really patriotic right. So he must believe in the importance of voting. So what is Superman's political party? Democrat, Republican, Independent, or Libertarian?

I assume Lex is clearly Republican, or an I wrong? And how about Lois of that matter?

Lois as a Republican is crap and totally goes against her character and was obviously a sad attempt to be provocative.

Superman was quite clearly a FDR Democrat when he was originally concieved, then slowly became a Republican stooge during the Fifties, a Kennedy-ite in the sixties, was most certainly a Ronnie Republican during the Byrne Super-Yuppie.

These days, he's an Obama Democrat, most certainly.

Afterall, they are related. Got the same Dad an' all.

I think that's pretty good summations, but I think overall he's a bit more to the left, you know with being an illegal immigrant, the loving of all people, not being a fan of poverty or war and all that.

[Redem]

Superman was quite clearly a FDR Democrat when he was originally concieved, then slowly became a Republican stooge during the Fifties, a Kennedy-ite in the sixties, was most certainly a Ronnie Republican during the Byrne Super-Yuppie.


What about the Clinton years and during the 60's

and he did slap Kennedy and Khrushchev

http://superdickery.com/index.php?view=article&catid=28%3Asuperdickery&id=166%3Asuperman-bitch-slaps-jfk&option=com_content&Itemid=24

[Xybernauts]

Lois as a Republican is crap and totally goes against her character and was obviously a sad attempt to be provocative.



I think that's pretty good summations, but I think overall he's a bit more to the left, you know with being an illegal immigrant, the loving of all people, not being a fan of poverty or war and all that.
I'm not sure, are you saying I'm trying to be provocative? First off you completely misinterpreted my comment. I said Luthor is clearly Republican. I in no way said Lane is republican. I was asking what political party she'd be affiliated with. And how is saying Lane is Republican provocative? I think what your seeing is a reflection of your own nature to provoke people. And yes, it's sad.

And why wouldn't Lane be a Republican?

[Mat001]

He votes as an independent. That way, he can vote for whoever he believes is best for the job. Not because he has a party affiliation. Oh and WorstThingsUS wasn't saying that you said that Lois was a Republican, he is refering to statements Lois made in the book. And Lex isn't a Republican as we saw him run under the Tomorrow Party, which makes him neither a Republican or a Democrat. Before then he might've been a Republican.

[WorstThingUS]

I'm not sure, are you saying I'm trying to be provocative? First off you completely misinterpreted my comment. I said Luthor is clearly Republican. I in no way said Lane is republican. I was asking what political party she'd be affiliated with. And how is saying Lane is Republican provocative? I think what your seeing is a reflection of your own nature to provoke people. And yes, it's sad.

And why wouldn't Lane be a Republican?

I thought you were referring to Lois being a Republican as you referenced Luthor's Republicanism---with which I disagree with by the way. Luthor obviously believes everyone is an idiot and would never subject himself to the yoke of an established party. He would be Independent always. Ross Perot springs to mind.

And aside from most journalists being centrists by virtue of their jobs which require them to see all sides of a story, Lois has been at odds with her severely right-wing father her entire life and has rebelled at every opportunity. She'd probably be a Libertarian because it's the one thing that would piss him off more than being a Democrat, short of being a Communist---and she probably went through that phase in college. Then there was the labor leader she was involved with... Making her a Republican is just a cheap stunt from a cheap stunt book so she can contrast with a usually liberal Superman.

But because I'm a softie I loved Superman's speech at the end. It made me miss Cap even more.

[CYOTI]

Lets see he is strong on unilateral action/pro-vilgilantism, strong on defense and raised in the Midwest, i think Superman qualifies as a republican.

Luthor has no party except what will serve him best.

[Magneto Rocks]

I think Superman changes, and is totally open minded in every election. I think in 2008, the 'hope' rhetoric and whatnot plays exactly into what Superman wants, so I'd say he'd be a 2008 Democrat, if nothing else.

[Sean Walsh]

Superman was neutral (just like Captain America) and was more devoted to defending "truth, justice and the American way" as ideals of their own.

Now that "the American way" is considered jingoism and "not cool"........he just doesn't give a crap about politics. :tongue:

[CYOTI]

That was before Singer emasculated Supes to fit his feminine idea of him.

[Mat001]

That pre-dates Singer by many years.

[theNighteye]

i chose other, he is a kryptonian.

[Headhunter]

There isn't an explicit centrist/moderate option, so I went with Independent. As President-Elect Barack Obama said:

And to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn, I may not have won your vote tonight, but I hear your voices. I need your help. And I will be your president, too.

Who would expect any less from the Man of Steel?

[Ontir]

That was before Singer emasculated Supes to fit his feminine idea of him.

Please explain yourself.

[Xybernauts]

That was before Singer emasculated Supes to fit his feminine idea of him.

Please explain yourself.

I think he means Singer's Superman isn't as burly as say Smallville's Clark. He looks like a metrosexual from the big city or suburbs. He doesn't come across as someone who has worked on a farm. During the "fight scene"in the Kryptonian crystal glacier that Lex created with the crystal, and I use the word "fight scene" loosly, Superman lost his powers. He had enough strength to stand on his feet, but not enough strength to use his superpowers. In that scene Singer's Superman got pushed around pretty badly. It kinda looked he was a "fagala". He didn't even put up a fight. Even Smallville's Superman can fight, even when he loses his powers. You could chalk it up to some anomaly in the krypton radiation caused by the fact that it was combined with the crystal, but regardless the way it was portrayed made him really look girly.That's not the only reason. He seemed indecisive. for example in the plane scene he really didn't seem to know what he was doing. When he was saving the plane it was like he was winging it. And then there's that ad that looked like it belonged on the cover of a porn movie.... I imagine there's nothing wrong with being a fagala, but it doesn't fit my perspective of how Supers should be portrayed. Sorry to get off track.

I originally thought Superman was a Democrat, but the moderate view does make more sense. I would have added it to the poll, but didn't think of it. Technically it would fall under the category of other though.

WorstThingUS, what makes you think Lois Lane's father is a Republican. based on your theory, if Lane's father is a democrat, then Lois would be a Republican.

Lex does seem more like an independent. It kinda makes more sense considering I don't think he ever held a political position before he was elected president.

[Erebus]

Lois as a Republican is crap and totally goes against her character and was obviously a sad attempt to be provocative.
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How so? She was raised in a military family and has never had any real stance on other issues. It's perfectly possible that she's a Republican. As for Superman, I think he's just whatever party will serve the country the best at the time.

[carabas]

On the other hand, she never was actually part of the military (not that Republican party ever had the monopoly on the military), but she is a very famous part of the so called liberal media.

[Mat001]

Which is not always fair, nor balanced. Look at Fox News and MSNBC. One is right wing Republican and one is Liberal Democrat. Just because Lois is a reporter doesn't mean that she's a Liberal.


Even Smallville's Superman can fight, even when he loses his powers

Uh, no. I've seen all eight seasons of the show. Clark in "Smallville" goes down like a sack of potatoes and cannot even stand up when in the presence of Green Kryptonite. The only time he has never been affected by Green Kryptonite was when he lost his powers from wearing the Blue Kryptonite ring or when his powers were transfered to someone else. So in both media, Clark is powerless. It's only in the comics when he can fight while near Green Kryptonite as seen in 'Up, Up & Away, "The Search For Kryptonite", "Infinite Crisis", "Reign Of The Supermen" and "3-2-1 Action".

[Xybernauts]

Which is not always fair, nor balanced. Look at Fox News and MSNBC. One is right wing Republican and one is Liberal Democrat. Just because Lois is a reporter doesn't mean that she's a Liberal.




Uh, no. I've seen all eight seasons of the show. Clark in "Smallville" goes down like a sack of potatoes and cannot even stand up when in the presence of Green Kryptonite. The only time he has never been affected by Green Kryptonite was when he lost his powers from wearing the Blue Kryptonite ring or when his powers were transfered to someone else. So in both media, Clark is powerless. It's only in the comics when he can fight while near Green Kryptonite as seen in 'Up, Up & Away, "The Search For Kryptonite", "Infinite Crisis", "Reign Of The Supermen" and "3-2-1 Action".
Yes, you are correct he does go down like a sack, but in SR he wasn't exposed to traditional green kryptonite. You can tell because initially when he lands on the crystal glacier he doesn't feel the effects of the kryptonite. He doesn't even realize he's lost his powers until after Lex and his goons start beating up on him. I specifically was comparing this scene to what happens when Clark from Smallville looses his powers from exposure to blue Kryptonite. Whether it be from exposure to blue Kryptonite or because of some freak accident, when Clark looses his powers he still manages to put up some sort of fight. Even if he gets beaten down he still stays strong. SR Superman didn't manage to put up any sort of fight at all. And yes he did get the opportunity. Lex and his goons did stop for a few moments after the initial blow and they did allow Clark to get his bearings. Clark just seemingly, didn't know how to fight. His attempts to fight back were feeble. Most humans couldn't win a fight like that obviously, but being the superhero that he is, you would think he would have fallen more gracefully.

[Mat001]

Actually, the Kryptonite is the same in "Superman Returns". In the deleted scenes which showed Clark returning to where Krypton was, he wasn't affected by the Kryptonite right away. That was a creative decision by Singer and company to have the Kryptonite affect him slowly, rather than right away. It had nothing to do with it being mixed with the Sunstone. And if you recall in the first and third film, Clark was useless when exposed to Kryptonite. He was barely able to walk away from Lex and he couldn't even stand when bombarded with it from the super computer. Blue Kryptonite in "Smallville" just shut down his powers, not weaken and kill him like Green Kryptonite does. Without his powers, that's a different matter. If you recall in "Superman II", he got his ass kicked without his powers. Two punches, an elbow to the stomach and he was done. That was just one guy doing it. Getting kicked around by three convicts and Lex, while exposed to Kryptonite is par for course in the films. "Smallville" is a different interpetation and so they handle things differently. You can't really compare different creators. Same with the comics. Pre-Crisis, he was useless. Post-Crisis, he could put up a bit of a fight.

[carabas]

Which is not always fair, nor balanced. Look at Fox News and MSNBC. One is right wing Republican and one is Liberal Democrat. Just because Lois is a reporter doesn't mean that she's a Liberal.And by the same line of thinking, just being an army brat doesn't make her a republican.

[Gernot]

It's probably not in continuity anymore, but in the 1992 Annual that had Superman fighting Eclipso, Lois Lane railed against the Reagan and Bush administrations.

I'd say that was evidence of her being a Democrat. :)

[Mat001]

It's probably not in continuity anymore, but in the 1992 Annual that had Superman fighting Eclipso, Lois Lane railed against the Reagan and Bush administrations.

I'd say that was evidence of her being a Democrat. :)

Not really. You can hate what Bush and Regan did, but still be a Republican.

And by the same line of thinking, just being an army brat doesn't make her a republican.

Doesn't mean she isn't a Republican either.

[carabas]

Straws. You're grasping at them.

What kind of republican opposes Bush The Elder and Reagan?

[Gernot]

I don't remember if she specifically said anything about the Presidents, or against Republican rule, which had gone on for about 12 years at the time. It didn't seem to me to be something a Republican would say.

[CYOTI]

Straws. You're grasping at them.

What kind of republican opposes Bush The Elder and Reagan? The Barry Goldwater kind who pretty much got sidelined by the neo-con and moral majority variety.

[WorstThingUS]

How so? She was raised in a military family and has never had any real stance on other issues. It's perfectly possible that she's a Republican. As for Superman, I think he's just whatever party will serve the country the best at the time.

As I said, despite one of her most defining characteristics has been her conflict with her father and it only serves this would be a political conflict as well. It's just as common for military brats to grow up totally left wing as a result of living in such a conservative environment. Jim Morrison of The Doors was a military kid. Again, this is a cheap stunt to make Lois seem more "provacative" with no consideration for her character. Aside from this out-of-nowhere statement the history of Lois Lane leans to the left (say that three times fast).

[Mia]

Going by what I've read lately. I'd say that Soupie is a firm Democrat.

[Mat001]

Straws. You're grasping at them.

What kind of republican opposes Bush The Elder and Reagan?

A Republican who thinks that Regan screwed up with Iran Contra and that Bush got the economy into debt. Even a lot of the die-hard Republicans today thought that W screwed things up. You can be a Republican or a Democrat and think that the current guy running the country isn't the right one.

[Redem]

A Republican who thinks that Regan screwed up with Iran Contra and that Bush got the economy into debt. Even a lot of the die-hard Republicans today thought that W screwed things up. You can be a Republican or a Democrat and think that the current guy running the country isn't the right one.

Maybe a republican that keep voting democrat a good possibility or the other way around :biggrin:

[Jared]

A Republican outright bashing Regan is like an Italian bad-mouthing Sinatra. It just isn't done.

I like to think that Superman and Batman both consider themselves independent but never vote for the same guy.

Smallville Lois apparently likes monster truck rallies, so I'm guessing she's no liberal. :)

[Mat001]

A Republican outright bashing Regan is like an Italian bad-mouthing Sinatra. It just isn't done.

Don't be too sure. It probably happens more often than you realize.

Smallville Lois apparently likes monster truck rallies

So does the comics Lois as seen in "Up, Up & Away".

[The Scarlet Sapien]

If he's a republican, the dims will say he's a stupid fascist and the dumbos will say he's a marxist