Who Drew This?

[Red Oak Kid]

I just saw this ad in an old comic and I have an idea who drew it, but wanted to see what people here thought.

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[Cei-U!]

Gil Kane.

Cei-U!
Gil always did draw a good Hulk!

[T GUy]

Gil Kane.

That was my thought.

[Paradox]

Certainly looks like a Kane ribcage to me.

[InfoBroker]

I think there are surface qualities that are part of Gil's repertoire, line type, weight and placement, along with style choices for anatomical rendering. However, the lack of knowledge of the mechanics and relationship of anatomy are lacking. This is usually a sign of someone lifting pieces and parts (perhaps even blatant tracing) of various poses from Gil Kane sources.

I have reservations on this piece. If it is Gil Kane, then he was having a really baaaad day, or something.

Perhaps someone has some information on Gil Kane's work in the animation field in this time frame. Did he do any work for DiC?

What art studio did ABC(?), CBS(?) commission to do the comic book advertising for their Saturn-day Morning Line-Up in 1985-86?

-jb the "remembers many a time watching The Littles with his two sons" ib

[Cei-U!]

I think there are surface qualities that are part of Gil's repertoire, line type, weight and placement, along with style choices for anatomical rendering. However, the lack of knowledge of the mechanics and relationship of anatomy are lacking. This is usually a sign of someone lifting pieces and parts (perhaps even blatant tracing) of various poses from Gil Kane sources.

I have reservations on this piece. If it is Gil Kane, then he was having a really baaaad day, or something.

I respectfully disagree. I think this drawing is very much of a piece with Gil's work elsewhere at the time. Any differences in anatomical rendering (and I really don't see 'em--if anything, I think it's more accurate than some of his contemporary art) might be attributable to his working from a photo of the Hulkster and adjusting his usual style to capture that "wrestler" look. Pure speculation on my part, y'unnerstand, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Cei-U!
I summon the counterpoint!

[MDG]

I respectfully disagree. I think this drawing is very much of a piece with Gil's work elsewhere at the time. Any differences in anatomical rendering (and I really don't see 'em--if anything, I think it's more accurate than some of his contemporary art) might be attributable to his working from a photo of the Hulkster and adjusting his usual style to capture that "wrestler" look. Pure speculation on my part, y'unnerstand, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Also, he's pretty obviously working from a photo, but the figure itself is cropped kinda weird by the design--having one shoulder obscured and the other out of frame loses a lot of Hulk's bulk.

[spoon_jenkins]

I'm probably not the art wonk that others are, but I think Gil Kane is a good guess. It didn't dawn on me until people mentioned Kane though. The hand (with that finger-positioning) looks like it definitely could be a Kane hand. The face looks different from what I'd expect from Kane, but maybe that's due to using photo reference (as others have guessed). Also, as mentioned, Kane's art has differed somewhat over time. So his art on Green Lantern in Action Comics Weekly is different from his vintage silver age Green Lantern. One thing that gives me pause is there seems to be more hatching in Hulk's face than I think as typical of Gil Kane. Seems to me like he used lines more sparingly.

[Roquefort Raider]

I think Kurt said it best :

Gil Kane.

'nuff said!

[Scott Shaw!]

Having drawn many of this type of ad and working in animation, I've got a number of points to make that might help:

-- Gil Kane was still living on the East Coast when HULK HOGAN'S ROCK AND WRESTLING premiered.

-- Years later, Gil relocated to Los Angeles. He did work for Ruby-Spears on THE ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN and, I think, Marvel Productions and Hanna-Barbera, mainly drawing presentation pieces.

-- The deadlines on this sort of ad are always brutal. The ad agencies representing the networks expect an overnight turnaround, so they often go to comic book artists who can meet their usually unrealistic expectations. (Fortunately, the gigs usually paid EXTREMELY well.)

-- Wallace Wood worked on one, too, I believe it was for 1966's CBS SatAM Preview. He didn't do the whole thing, but as I remember, he drew THE HERCULOIDS.

-- Since this sort of ad is somewhat of a jigsaw puzzle, the artwork was often re-sized and/or reworked to fit the ad's overall composition.

-- Art depicting a celebrity is usually dependent upon the approval of the celebrity or his/her management. CBS was apparently playing up the fact that the Hulkster was one of the live-action hosts of the show (and his name WAS in the title); the stories themselves were animated through DIC (Do It Cheaper).

So there are a TON of reasons why this ad may not feature Gil at his finest or at his most recognizable...but it definitely IS the work of Gil Kane.

Aloha,

Scott!

[hondobrode]

That does not look like Gil Kane to me. I'm no professional but it looks like Armando Gil's work to me.

[Scott Shaw!]

Why do you think this was drawn by Armando Gil? Please cite specific examples that led you to this supposition.

(What may be throwing you off is that -- I THINK -- Armando Gil inked Gil Kane's pencils on some issues of Topps' JURASSIC PARK. But I've gotta tell you, you're HALF-correct...about the "Gil" part, at least. The pose, the anatomy in the hand, the inking style, all are typical of Gil Kane's distinctive drawing style. The only thing here that's seems really "off" is Hulk's chest, which I think was narrowed by whatever ad agency assembled this spread.)

By the way, judging by the sliver of art at the bottom of the the ROCK 'N' WRESTLING illustration, I think that's MY drawing of JIM HENSON'S MUPPET BABIES!

Either that, or it was drawn by Armando Gil.

Aloha,

Scott!

[hondobrode]

to me.

My collection is boxed up in storage, but it looks glaringly like the work of a guy that used to do some work for Marvel in the 80's named Armando Gil. His work is not very well known and I don't think he's been in the field for years, but that's what it immediately struck me as.

I'm not a professional but that's what it looks like to me. I remember he did some work on Micronauts as well as the 80's Bruce Jones written Ka-Zar.

[Scott Shaw!]

I guess I shouldn't hold my breath waiting for some compelling evidence that Armando Gil drew this advertisement, should I?

Aloha,

Scott!

[Mark Evanier]

Definitely Gil Kane.