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Swashbuckler
10-27-2008, 10:37 AM
STORM WEEK: FAILING FERAL AND THE MORLOCKS
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As every Storm fan knows, Ororro has many responsibilities in her life. Keeping her attitude in check so random hurricaines don't appear and being sure to keep her garden tended help create a full schedule for Storm, but one duty she has she failed on miserably. Storm battled Callisto in the Morlock tunnels in order to free Angel and help save Nightcrawler. She fought hard and beat Callisto, taking control of the sewer dwelling ragtag genetically challanged beasts, but never really lived up to her potential as their leader. Sure, she invited them to hang out at the mansion, but with characters like Rachel Summers and Jean Grey there I can see why the Morlocks opted to stay in the sewers. Perhaps Storm should have stuck with them.
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Several Morlocks could hav eused her guidance and companionship, one of which was Feral. Feral was confused and angry at the world, and Storm's leadership could have helped mold Feral into a great woman instead of a rabid beast. Feral had no one, and eventually had to run away from her "family". Masque is really to blame, but his unruley behavior in the tunnels was mainly Storm's fault as well. She just didn't pay attnetion. Feral went on to be a killer and go insane and eventually died because she was so ready to battle (even when she wasn't properly ready. With better training from Storm and a better upbrigning in the tunnels, things may have been different. Storm failed her though. And Marrow. And countless other Morlocks. Do you blame Storm for Feral's death? Is she responsible for all the Morlocks wrong doings? I think so. Who else has Storm failed in the tunnels, and do you think she should be punished?
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bluedmighty
10-27-2008, 10:43 AM
Good thread.
Yeah, she did blow it with the Morlocks.
How soon after the Battle for Morlock leadership was the Inferno Saga.
I'd like to think other things came up that demanded Ororo's attention. Not that she won, got her friends out of there and never looked back.
Wasn't this also touched on with the group that got relocated to Africa?
worstblogever
10-27-2008, 10:47 AM
I asked Ororo if she hated Feral. She paused, thoughtfully, before asking me, "Who?"
psycwave
10-27-2008, 10:52 AM
I had a feeling this type of thread would be started by Swash.
timbox
10-27-2008, 10:52 AM
Morlocks are disgusting sewer animals. Our High Queen, Goddess Storm is not, and should not be concerned with such filth.
Leirus
10-27-2008, 10:55 AM
I asked Ororo if she hated Feral. She paused, thoughtfully, before asking me, "Who?"
I will come back later to talk about the actual thread...
right now I just needed to say
"OMG WBE your avatar... is... is... I do not have words"
Bingo!
10-27-2008, 10:56 AM
The Morlocks failed themselves time and times again. Especially since they let dangerous mutants like Feral and Masque to roam around.
Storm only a since of dignity and punk vibe to these forgotten mutants.
Swashbuckler
10-27-2008, 10:56 AM
I asked Ororo if she hated Feral. She paused, thoughtfully, before asking me, "Who?"
Storm would pretend to not know what's going on. She is clever like that and doesn't want her people of Wakanda knowing how she has already failed a whole other group of people INCLUDING a Cat like person. The Panther god would be pissed.
I had a feeling this type of thread would be started by Swash.
I'm glad you felt something. Storm didn't. EVER. She let Feral die!
Morlocks are disgusting sewer animals. Our High Queen, Goddess Storm is not, and should not be concerned with such filth.
I knew storm was a queen and goddess but now your telling me she's high too? No wonder she failed the Morlocks. They needed leadership but Storm was too busy rolling joints to pay attention to them. Her habits costs others. SELFISH!
jarrod
10-27-2008, 11:10 AM
Storm was too busy with more important Morlocks like Marrow, Callisto and She-Masque.
AcesX1X
10-27-2008, 11:14 AM
aren't there african morlocks as well?
why hasn't storm extended a welcome invitation to wakanda for these creatures yet?
she needs to do so if she ever hopes to make up for past misdeeds.
timbox
10-27-2008, 11:18 AM
Qwerty is from Wakanda.
Swashbuckler
10-27-2008, 11:34 AM
aren't there african morlocks as well?
why hasn't storm extended a welcome invitation to wakanda for these creatures yet?
she needs to do so if she ever hopes to make up for past misdeeds.
The Morlocks of Wakanda are working with Killmonger. They were mutated thanks to the vibranium which Storm is doing NOTHING about. She's prejudice against non-beautiful mutants.
Excelsior
10-27-2008, 11:38 AM
Storm being as wise as she is, decided that Feral and the Morlocks should suffer to become stronger. Much like an Eagle pushing its young out of the nest. You gotta grow up some time.
worstblogever
10-27-2008, 11:46 AM
Storm being as wise as she is, decided that Feral and the Morlocks should suffer to become stronger. Much like an Eagle pushing its young out of the nest. You gotta grow up some time.
So Storm borrowed the policies of Apocalypse, then?
AcesX1X
10-27-2008, 11:55 AM
So Storm borrowed the policies of Apocalypse, then?
SO, the connection seems to run deeper than we imagined...
ExodusCloak
10-27-2008, 11:56 AM
So Storm borrowed the policies of Apocalypse, then?
The endless love making and shopping...? If so yes.
Excelsior
10-27-2008, 12:10 PM
SO, the connection seems to run deeper than we imagined...
I could see that. I mean Wolverine and Gambit certainly felt pocy's clipse.
Yogaflame
10-27-2008, 01:37 PM
I really don't understand why Storm is held responsible for the Morlocks so much. She fought Callisto to free her X-Men. Period. Point. Blank. And she abdicated leadership back to Callisto in the same day. She offered the Morlocks a chance to come to the Mansion, and they refused. They chose to stay in the Tunnels. Reap what you sew! She even set some of them up in Africa after the whole Gene Nation fiasco. Ungrateful sewer rats.
And now they are brought up again in Worlds Apart. Aren't they all dead now? Who is left? And if there are still mutants down there, shouldn't they have heard King Cyclops's telepathic invite? Or did someone in the X-office actually remember the Tunnels are psi-proofed? If so, kudos to them, but really, the Morlocks have chosen to live in isolation. Storm offered a new path. They choose otherwise and were killed. How is this Storm's fault? If anything, its Sinister's. End of discussion.
AcesX1X
10-27-2008, 01:43 PM
.....
i nominate bliss for membership in storm's latest radical fringe x-men.
Swashbuckler
10-27-2008, 01:45 PM
Bliss would be an excellent addition. Perhaps to show her "Storm" spirit she should have mask reshape her little head in her mouth into Storm's image.
AcesX1X
10-27-2008, 01:46 PM
Bliss would be an excellent addition. Perhaps to show her "Storm" spirit she should have mask reshape her little head in her mouth into Storm's image.
no, i think it should stay jean grey. that way, storm can still have psuedo-conversations with jean whenever she wanted. bliss could just cover her ears when this happens.
SayOcean
10-27-2008, 01:49 PM
I think Storm was responsible for the sh!tty life of the morlocks, you don't think that some of the mutants at xavier didnt want to be at the the mansion at first, and maybe there were other mutants who wanted to come but were afraid to come forward, werent a lot of the morlocks young? too young to make decisions of their own. it wouldve been in their best interest to have made those kids come to the mansion
Excelsior
10-27-2008, 02:32 PM
I think Storm was responsible for the sh!tty life of the morlocks, you don't think that some of the mutants at xavier didnt want to be at the the mansion at first, and maybe there were other mutants who wanted to come but were afraid to come forward, werent a lot of the morlocks young? too young to make decisions of their own. it wouldve been in their best interest to have made those kids come to the mansion
I see Storm having one failing in the Morlock matter, she did not plead to Xavier on their behalf, because she did not have the resources to meet their needs, That being said Callisto was a piss poor leader and Storm would have to do a lot to be rank lowered.
And if I were to rank Storm's leadership_-I would consider the death of 15 million mutants, *ahem* Xavier's twin, or the destruction of the X-mansion*couch* Emma and Scott.
I love the hate Black Panther option. :hahah:
SayOcean
10-27-2008, 02:47 PM
We wernt talking about Xaviers leadership though, Storm basically humilated their leader, half assed asked them to comve to xaviers and then peaced it out, she should run for president
Yogaflame
10-27-2008, 03:11 PM
We wernt talking about Xaviers leadership though, Storm basically humilated their leader, half assed asked them to comve to xaviers and then peaced it out, she should run for president
Humiliated their leader that was trying to milk Angel for his spunk and tried to kill her team. She had no responsibility for them whatsoever. If they want to live underground and spit venom at 'surface dwellers', that's their business.
maigen
10-27-2008, 03:24 PM
"Sure, she invited them to hang out at the mansion, but with characters like Rachel Summers and Jean Grey there I can see why the Morlocks opted to stay in the sewers" - Swash
Oh I could laugh at this all day-all day.
SayOcean
10-27-2008, 03:38 PM
Humiliated their leader that was trying to milk Angel for his spunk and tried to kill her team. She had no responsibility for them whatsoever. If they want to live underground and spit venom at 'surface dwellers', that's their business.That's stupid for a woman who is supposed to be the caring so much of mutant affairs, if someone in your family was living in the sewers wouldnt you want them to live in your mansion no matter if they thoguht they belonged in the sewers or not
x_goalkeeper
10-27-2008, 04:01 PM
I hate the Black Panther, haha
Christopher O
10-27-2008, 04:18 PM
That's stupid for a woman who is supposed to be the caring so much of mutant affairs, if someone in your family was living in the sewers wouldnt you want them to live in your mansion no matter if they thoguht they belonged in the sewers or not
You think it's caring to force a functioning community to move against their will? Storm isn't in the business of running a new Trail of Tears. Gaining the leadership of the Morlocks was about saving the X-Men and nothing else. Honestly, I think it's stupid when fans try to pin the various crises of the Morlocks on Storm. For one thing, they chose that life. For another, Storm won leadership but basically gave it right back to Callisto. Nothing changed for them except that Callisto was humiliated and lowered in their eyes. If anyone is at fault for a failure of leadership during the Massacre, it's Callisto.
Now, I totally get why Storm would blame herself. She's an overachiever who thinks everything she cares about is her responsibility. She feels that way about Africa, the X-Men, and the Morlocks. That doesn't mean she's at fault every time something bad happens.
And she totally hates Feral. She prefers Hepzibah.
Yogaflame
10-27-2008, 04:19 PM
That's stupid for a woman who is supposed to be the caring so much of mutant affairs, if someone in your family was living in the sewers wouldnt you want them to live in your mansion no matter if they thoguht they belonged in the sewers or not
Actually, Storm is not one to judge. Living in a mansion one may encounter filth of another kind. Storm honored their descion instead of making them bend to external morals. A very compassionate act if you ask me.
eurazn
10-27-2008, 04:23 PM
The Morlocks are FAIL by their very nature. Therefore, Storm is absolved.
SayOcean
10-27-2008, 05:36 PM
You think it's caring to force a functioning community to move against their will? Storm isn't in the business of running a new Trail of Tears. Gaining the leadership of the Morlocks was about saving the X-Men and nothing else. Honestly, I think it's stupid when fans try to pin the various crises of the Morlocks on Storm. For one thing, they chose that life. For another, Storm won leadership but basically gave it right back to Callisto. Nothing changed for them except that Callisto was humiliated and lowered in their eyes. If anyone is at fault for a failure of leadership during the Massacre, it's Callisto.
Now, I totally get why Storm would blame herself. She's an overachiever who thinks everything she cares about is her responsibility. She feels that way about Africa, the X-Men, and the Morlocks. That doesn't mean she's at fault every time something bad happens.
And she totally hates Feral. She prefers Hepzibah. Are you comparing the force movement of a people from a fertile land to the crappiest parts of the country to moving from a sewer to a mansion, you are comparing the plight of the native americans, who had their villiage ransacked and people raped and killed and having to march clear across the country to moving from some feces covered sewer to a bed and breakfast hmmmmmm. I get it that some of the morlocks didnt want to move but some of them obviously werent that smart, and hows about the kids? you dont think they would just blindly agree with thier parents to stay in the tunnels???
the morlocks are the only part of storm that interests me, the massacre was prob the saddest comic storyline ive ever read when i was a kid.....so i guess i was kinda traumatized
Grunty
10-27-2008, 06:13 PM
I get it that some of the morlocks didnt want to move but some of them obviously werent that smart, and hows about the kids? you dont think they would just blindly agree with thier parents to stay in the tunnels???
the morlocks are the only part of storm that interests me, the massacre was prob the saddest comic storyline ive ever read when i was a kid.....so i guess i was kinda traumatized
I think you have to remember that the Morlocks have created a sort of romantic point of view to their lifes.
From a total neutral point of view the Morlocks were a collection of groups and gangs of homeless mutants, who lived in the tunnels because of their individual bad experinces as mutants, which let them to seek shelter and hidding in said group.
So the whole reason why mutants decided to become Morlocks was because they seeked safty without the need to actualy fight, because most of them didn't had the powers to do so, or didn't wanted to use them offensivly.
However to make their lifes more mentaly confortable and to give it a reason again they begann to create a fake storys about themself. They created an romantic image around their existance.
A race of mutants, hunted by the evil society of the upworlders, proud in being ugly, safe in their secret home underground, etc.
The survivors all still talk like that if you think about it. So there must have been so much belive behind these storys that it still keeps going in their heads even though reality has long ago hit them.
While the grown ups made these storys to feel themself better, the kids heared these storys and belived them to be true. You can clearly notice the effect of these totaly fake, but romantic sounding storys in Marrows dialoges with the X-men, during her time with them.
Of course it's all BS, but she belived in it as a kid and doesn't want to break her own heart by admitting that it is all just made up.
Also the for the kids it was the only family they had and they didn't had much of a chance to go anywhere else before becomming teenagers, so they were constantly in contact with the fake storys.
Marrow is actualy a very good example on much this combination had an effect on the Morlock children to stay with the Morlocks.
As Sarah she had the chance to stay in the normal world with someone who cared for her (Thornn), but since the Morlocks were her only family she ever knew (even though not being the child of Morlocks) and because she belived them to be her "people" (enhanced by the storys and the lack of knowledge of the real world) made her stay in the Hill with horrible results.
Even though being constantly in danger, having fight her own people in deadly combat and being forced to live in a world were acid rains from the sky, she couldn't give herself or the Morlocks the fault for being in that place, so she started to direct her anger towards the ones she didn't knew (the normal humans) and the outsiders (mainly in form of Ororo). Which was the reason for that whole messy bussiness with Storm in Uncanny X-men 325.
So all in all Ororo is not to blame for anything that happend to the Morlocks, she was an outside who got involved with them, because of a situation the Morlocks (first Callisto with Angel, later Caliban with Kitty) provoked.
With Storm or without her the Massacre would have happend.
Ironical it was said provoked involvment that actualy saved some of them their lives.
AcesX1X
10-27-2008, 06:18 PM
i have to be honest....i don't really care for the morlocks.....
there are a handful i think are OK, such as bliss, feral, tranny masque, and callisto, but otherwise....i think their existence just sullies storm's good name.
Yogaflame
10-27-2008, 06:19 PM
Grammatical errors aside, well said Grunty!
lockerogue
10-27-2008, 06:19 PM
i have to be honest....i don't really care for the morlocks.....
there are a handful i think are OK, such as bliss, feral, tranny masque, and callisto, but otherwise....i think their existence just sullies storm's good name.
What about little Leech?
Grunty
10-27-2008, 06:22 PM
Grammatical errors aside, well said Grunty!
Thanks and sorry about the gramma, english is not my native language, i'm better at understanding it than writing it, but i try to improve myself.
AcesX1X
10-27-2008, 06:22 PM
What about little Leech?
i think the greatest thing leech ever did was get kicked in the head by emma frost.
lockerogue
10-27-2008, 06:27 PM
i think the greatest thing leech ever did was get kicked in the head by emma frost.
You wound me Aces. You wound me.
Yogaflame
10-27-2008, 06:31 PM
Thanks and sorry about the gramma, english is not my native language, i'm better at understanding it than writing it, but i try to improve myself.
Please, do not apologize. Your message rang loud and clear. I should be so lucky to attempt a passage in another language and get as much across as you did.
Namaste.
Jase Q
10-27-2008, 06:51 PM
Storm failed no one. She offered them haven at the mansions, them not accepting is on them.
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