Punisher Takes Aim At . . . (SPOILERS)

[arp2008]

Lets go frank! I know you can do it. Kill that worthless pile dog droppings also known as Sentry! I know you can do it! I'm counting you! Go, FRANK!!!!!!! :evilsmile:

http://comics.ign.com/articles/920/920905p1.html

[classicgmer]

I think The Punisher is great and everything but if anyone thinks he has any chance of taking the sentry down your about as screwy as bob is.

[Dr. Chaos]

I'd be very curious to find out what is giving Frank any indication that he has something that can take down someone with the power of a million frickin exploding suns.

I mean, don't get me wrong, Avengers Sentry is a pussy but unless he's got some sort of Sentry kryptonite I'm not aware of (besides screwing with his mind which has proven sadly easily lately), he's screwed from the start here.

[arp2008]

I mean, don't get me wrong, Avengers Sentry is a pussy but unless he's got some sort of Sentry kryptonite I'm not aware of (besides screwing with his mind which has proven sadly easily lately), he's screwed from the start here. Thats probably exactly what he'll do to get whatever egde he can. He really has no other weapon to take down Mr. Hyperbole.

[Greg Anderson]

Punisher can take down anyone in the Marvel Universe with prep-time.

[spidervenom]

I dont think frank wants to kill him. It would make more sense to knock some sense into him and make him take responsibility and go after some of the bigger villains or criminals that make it more of a annoyance or difficulity for frank. So when The Sentry's done beating the crap out of them, Frank can swoop in and go for the kill.

[rajincajun689]

Bahahahahaa It's about god damn mother-f*cking time!

Kill his ass, Frank!

[Dr. Chaos]

Punisher can take down anyone in the Marvel Universe with prep-time.
I'm sure he likes to think he can, yes.

Frank isn't going to kill The Sentry anymore than he could The Hulk.

It doesn't really matter how much time he prepares, theres no artillery available to someone like him that could get a god's job done.

At the end of the day/year/week, whenever he pulls his big plan, he's going to fail no matter how good he tries to make himself look in the attempt.

That being said, I'm curious to find out who hired him, a villain or a "hero"?

Cases can be made for both. It wouldn't be the first time one of the goody two shoes overstepped their bounds and decided for someone that they're doing more harm than good.

(And I'm assuming he was hired by someone to do this because no one could be stupid enough to try something like this without extra incentive from a third party, no one, not even The Punisher could be just this dumb enough to cook up up an assassination like this on his own)

[B. Kuwanger]

I love the Sentry and I know Frank's powerless here, but no doubt this will be an exciting story.

THAT aside, new creative team! Remender and Opena, how cool is that? Fraction's Punisher was extremely hit or miss, mostly miss, so this is great news.

[CyberHubbs]

If Sentry somehow loses his powers, and Frank is trying to kill him before he can figure out how to regain them, thus forcing Mr. Reynolds to use his brain -- however whacked that it is -- to escape through New York's filthy alleys, then I might be curious.

Otherwise, yeah, this comic would be all of three panels long. Maybe two.

[Dr. Chaos]

If Sentry somehow loses his powers, and Frank is trying to kill him before he can figure out how to regain them, thus forcing Mr. Reynolds to use his brain -- however whacked that it is -- to escape through New York's filthy alleys, then I might be curious.

Otherwise, yeah, this comic would be all of three panels long. Maybe two.
Sentry being forced to rely on his brain?

.....on second thought, Frank could win this after all.

[CyberHubbs]

Sentry being forced to rely on his brain?

.....on second thought, Frank could win this after all.

Might be interesting if Sentry is hallucinating the entire time, hiding out in abandoned buildings and whatnot, while Punisher stalks him. I can see it being a fun read at that point. Prove to me that Sentry is more than just a billion exploding suns, and that somewhere in there IS a brain.

[arp2008]

Perhaps Frank has bullets with the power to kill shitty characters that destroy good stories with their awfulness. That would certainly explain why he's trying to, and hopefully does, kill Sentry, no?

[DocCook]

I'm sorry. If you can't fight cuz you're worried about a Anxiety attack. You deserve to die. No wonder people call him a poor man's Supes

[Ultrawolf]

It could be interesting.
As far as Frank being outclassed, I submit to you Punisher Kills The Marvel Universe. S'good reading.
What-if or not.
I'm sure everything's not going to be so black and white as someone hiring the punisher to kill Sentry. At least I hope not, since that's not really a trademark of the character to take mercenary missions unless it paralleled with his own personal mission.

[DeadXMan]

I think The Punisher is great and everything but if anyone thinks he has any chance of taking the sentry down your about as screwy as bob is.



This

http://www.sequart.com/punisher/punisherkillsthemarveluniverseV1a.jpg

[Tobias March]

Might be interesting if Sentry is hallucinating the entire time, hiding out in abandoned buildings and whatnot, while Punisher stalks him. I can see it being a fun read at that point. Prove to me that Sentry is more than just a billion exploding suns, and that somewhere in there IS a brain.

Exactly. The complaints about Sentry rest mostly on his invulnerability. Make Bob sympathetic by running him up against Frank, see what happens.

Hmm....gonna re-read The Punisher killing Wolverine again now. With electricity :wink:

[Flinkman]

PAHAHAHAHAHA!

this is a joke right? regardless of your personal feelings about the Sentry, there's NO logical way the Punisher could EVER take down the Sentry unless he was depowered.

wishful thinking folks, very wishful thinking.

[Flinkman]

This

http://www.sequart.com/punisher/punisherkillsthemarveluniverseV1a.jpg
this what? was a What If out of continuity one-shot that was pointless and ugly and gratuitous and pandering and amoral?

yea, this is most definitely that.

[CMBMOOL]

I may not like the Sentry due to his craziness, but even I think that Frank should have taken him out years ago in order to save us from this character.:redface:

[arp2008]

PAHAHAHAHAHA!

this is a joke right? regardless of your personal feelings about the Sentry, there's NO logical way the Punisher could EVER take down the Sentry unless he was depowered.

wishful thinking folks, very wishful thinking. Not unless The Punisher has bullets with the power to kill shitty characters that destroy good stories with their awfulness.

[The Infected]

Castle's a very resourceful guy. Will he manage to take down Sentry? Very doubtful. Put he'll put up one hell of a fight.

Besides, Sentry's easy. He's as powerful as he is unstable. Very easy to manipulate.

[Flinkman]

Castle's a very resourceful guy. Will he manage to take down Sentry? Very doubtful. Put he'll put up one hell of a fight.

Besides, Sentry's easy. He's as powerful as he is unstable. Very easy to manipulate.
i agree with this direction. if Frank can outwit the Sentry in a more believeable way than the Vision-Skrull did in the Savage Land & take him down that way.....but let's face it, in a legit fight the Sentry would whoop him IMO & after all the build up ol' Robert's had in the mainstream Marvel books there's no way he's going out in an issue of the Punisher.

[Karthak]

Only chance Frank has is to mess with his brain. Otherwise the Sentry would just kill him in one panel. Know what happens when a train hits a human? That's what would happen if the Sentry punched Frank.

[B. Kuwanger]

after all the build up ol' Robert's had in the mainstream Marvel books there's no way he's going out in an issue of the Punisher.
Stop that. If people realize that particular fact, this ongoing may not move as many issues.

[carabas]

could the Punisher kill the Sentry?
Of bloody course not. Frank doesn't kill heroes. It is a silly question.

Could he come up with a plan to kill the Sentry that would probably work?
Absodamndudely. I mean, the guy spends a considerable percentage of his time depowered and stark raving bonkers. He's one of the easiest superheroes to kill.

[americocaine]

Its all a setup.

Bob will be back with New Avengers again 'fore ya know it.

[Abrojo]

Frank isn't going to kill The Sentry anymore than he could The Hulk.

I agree he cant take down the Sentry heh, but the Hulk he did take out in a very believable way. He just stalked him out after a Hulk rampage till he went into "safety" and powered down to Banner form and then he shot him in the head. This was of course in the Punisher kills the Marvel Universe what if.

Yeah it will be more about knocking some sense into him and having Frank go all out for once.

[Guest_1001]

If it's not written by Bendis, it could be good. If it is, it'll just be more mindless mistreatment of a character that started out good.

And Punisher sucks anyway. Seriously, he does. All the people complaining about Sentry, the Punisher isn't all that . . .

[Alan2099]

Anybody else thinking back to the time when Punisher fought Ulik the Troll?

[pharoahe22]

Punisher better hope he doesn't get thrown into the sun. Bob's a jerk lol. Bendis said that the Sentry is finally going to be a major player in 2009, so I'm looking forward to it!

[mimic_616]

I'm gonna pick this up coz I'm a huge Sentry fan and also a fan of the Punisher, but come on. No way is Frank gonna kill The Golden Guardian. :tongue:

[arp2008]

Punisher better hope he doesn't get thrown into the sun. Bob's a jerk lol. Bendis said that the Sentry is finally going to be a major player in 2009, so I'm looking forward to it! Lets just hope Bendis was trying to quell the complaining about Sentry shittiness with tah announcement. The less Senrty, the much, much, much better!!!

[Libaax]

I'm sorry. If you can't fight cuz you're worried about a Anxiety attack. You deserve to die. No wonder people call him a poor man's Supes

Dont insult Supes by comparing him to Sentry.

The guy is the biggest plot device in comics history. Only time i ever see him is when he is gonna save the world from The Hulk or something and still get his millions of suns ass kicked.

Supes atleast has a weakness that make him interesting.

[tkitna]

Could he come up with a plan to kill the Sentry that would probably work?
Absodamndudely. I mean, the guy spends a considerable percentage of his time depowered and stark raving bonkers. He's one of the easiest superheroes to kill.

I'd love to hear your explanation of how Frank could possibly come up with something that can kill a guy who survives Nukes unscathed. I'd also like to hear how you think the Sentry is one of the easiest heros to kill. :confused:

[tkitna]

Supes atleast has a weakness that make him interesting.

If you say so.

[Will.S]

Cool cover.

[FearEmbodied]

Jesus H. Christ.

"I've got this fantastic idea for a book!"

No, you don't. I seems to me like Marvel is trying to kill off one of my favorite characters that I have loved for more than fifteen years by making his mainstream books more and more absurd. It's great being a comic reader.

Anybody else thinking back to the time when Punisher fought Ulik the Troll?

In the Marvel Knights series (not the Punisher title, the one actually called "Marvel Knights")? Sure, but that's not the friggin' Sentry.

[arp2008]

Dont insult Supes by comparing him to Sentry.

The guy is the biggest plot device in comics history. Only time i ever see him is when he is gonna save the world from The Hulk or something and still get his millions of suns ass kicked. LOL :biggrin:

[Thursaiz]

If Dark Reign has something to do with Sentry's friend Void, then it would make sense for Frank to go after the source of the problem.

[$5 Milkshake]

LOL awesome.

And good news on a new book replacing the (IMHO) not very good Fraction Punisher series. Remender is often excellent.

[Abrojo]

No way is Frank gonna kill The Golden Guardian. :tongue:

He wouldnt do it even if he somehow was able to, its not how comics work :)

Supes atleast has a weakness that make him interesting.

errr.. i dont think kryptonite makes supes any bit interesting (other stuff sure) but suit yourself :)

[carabas]

I'd love to hear your explanation of how Frank could possibly come up with something that can kill a guy who survives Nukes unscathed.Isn't he just a regular, powerless, mentally not quite all there guy when he's not being the Sentry?

[DeadXMan]

Isn't he just a regular, powerless, mentally not quite all there guy when he's not being the Sentry?

that's how he killed The Hulk

[Raptor]

thats right folks, Punisher has a superpower. it's super bull****.

Any time Frank kills or beats someone or somethign way out of his league, chalk it up to this power.

I'm sure he could kill Sentry when sentry is Bob Roberts. Thats just like killing Hulk as Banner. Its not killing a superpowered being it's murdering someone who can either barely defend themselves or doesn't see it coming. It's not an accomplishment.

I'm a Punisher fan, but the man has limits.

needless to say, if Frankwins, its due to beating up poor bob or some super bull****.

[DeadXMan]

thats right folks, Punisher has a superpower. it's super bull****.

Any time Frank kills or beats someone or somethign way out of his league, chalk it up to this power.

I'm sure he could kill Sentry when sentry is Bob Roberts. Thats just like killing Hulk as Banner. Its not killing a superpowered being it's murdering someone who can either barely defend themselves or doesn't see it coming. It's not an accomplishment.

I'm a Punisher fan, but the man has limits.

needless to say, if Frankwins, its due to beating up poor bob or some super bull****.


What?

When capped Banner was Bad ass

everyone else wants to beat the hulk in a fight.

Frank beat him the smartest way.


but say PAD was Writing it...HUlk would of Came to the forground when Frank pulled the trigger

[Raptor]

never said it wasnt smart, said it wasnt the same as beating the hulk.

I still vote marvel needs to kill Banner in cannon and call it a day.

[Sam T.]

Wayy too much hate for The Sentry around these parts. I think he is a very interesting character. And also...why do we need to start a whole new comic for the Punisher once again?!?:confused:

[Libaax]

Jesus H. Christ.

"I've got this fantastic idea for a book!"

No, you don't. I seems to me like Marvel is trying to kill off one of my favorite characters that I have loved for more than fifteen years by making his mainstream books more and more absurd. It's great being a comic reader.



In the Marvel Knights series (not the Punisher title, the one actually called "Marvel Knights")? Sure, but that's not the friggin' Sentry.

Ooh you are a Sentry fan it must suck being you seeing how lame they use him these days :tongue:

Was ever interesting i wonder ?

Only him sounding even more powerful version of Supes make him lame to start with for me. He would have appeared more interesting without the million of suns crap....

[carabas]

Eh, when you're just a man in a superpowered universe, you either cheat or die (aka the Batman rule).

[Alan2099]

Was ever interesting i wonder ?
His first min-series he was. After Bendis got ahold of him, all that intresting stuff went away.

[Guest_1001]

Only him sounding even more powerful version of Supes make him lame to start with for me. He would have appeared more interesting without the million of suns crap....

So the fact that he's been relentlessly beaten up since day one is still not enough to convince fanboys that he's weaker than Superman? Good Lord, Spiderman and Wolverine win every one of their fights -- and lost less than Sentry, even in his short innings -- yet where's the argument that they're more powerful than Superman?

On the other hand, what about Captain Britain? Ms Marvel? Flight + Speed + Strength = Superman ripoff, apparently. Never mind the fact that the Sentry has a God complex, was an amnesiac, is his own worst enemy (literally), used to have substance abuse problems (which led to him receiving his powers in the first place), split personalities and agoraphobia (I'm not too fond of the last two), just because of his powers, people think "Superman". Ridiculous.

[DeadXMan]

never said it wasnt smart, said it wasnt the same as beating the hulk.

I still vote marvel needs to kill Banner in cannon and call it a day.

what about the time he feed banner c4 and cosipation medicane just to blow up the hulk's stomach?

[Libaax]

So the fact that he's been relentlessly beaten up since day one is still not enough to convince fanboys that he's weaker than Superman? Good Lord, Spiderman and Wolverine win every one of their fights -- and lost less than Sentry, even in his short innings -- yet where's the argument that they're more powerful than Superman?

On the other hand, what about Captain Britain? Ms Marvel? Flight + Speed + Strength = Superman ripoff, apparently. Never mind the fact that the Sentry has a God complex, was an amnesiac, is his own worst enemy (literally), used to have substance abuse problems (which led to him receiving his powers in the first place), split personalities and agoraphobia (I'm not too fond of the last two), just because of his powers, people think "Superman". Ridiculous.

Its how he is used and written.

He could be more powerful than Supes and be interesting if he wasnt used as plot device in events...

I only like Cap Brit of the ones you mentioned. Their powers isnt what they are unlike Sentry....

I havent read his comics i prolly would if he wasnt build so high everywhere and still get his ass kicked. The only time he is mentioned is when fanboy argue about the most powerful people in MU. But as you said he gets his ass kicked more than Wolverine even hahahahah...

[americocaine]

Now that I think about it get Punisher to hunt the Blue Marvel once the idiots mini gets stellar sales. The green light for Joey Q. to go into crossover mania. Re-number, cancel, MRUUAHGHGH!

[FearEmbodied]

Ooh you are a Sentry fan it must suck being you seeing how lame they use him these days :tongue:

Was ever interesting i wonder ?

Only him sounding even more powerful version of Supes make him lame to start with for me. He would have appeared more interesting without the million of suns crap....

Sentry hasn't even been around for fifteen years.

thats right folks, Punisher has a superpower. it's super bull****.

Any time Frank kills or beats someone or somethign way out of his league, chalk it up to this power.

I'm sure he could kill Sentry when sentry is Bob Roberts. Thats just like killing Hulk as Banner. Its not killing a superpowered being it's murdering someone who can either barely defend themselves or doesn't see it coming. It's not an accomplishment.

I'm a Punisher fan, but the man has limits.

needless to say, if Frankwins, its due to beating up poor bob or some super bull****.

He's a bit like Batman when it comes to that. The "with prep-time he can do anything!" BS.

[Vidocq]

On the other hand, what about Captain Britain? Ms Marvel? Flight + Speed + Strength = Superman ripoff, apparently. Never mind the fact that the Sentry has a God complex, was an amnesiac, is his own worst enemy (literally), used to have substance abuse problems (which led to him receiving his powers in the first place), split personalities and agoraphobia (I'm not too fond of the last two), just because of his powers, people think "Superman". Ridiculous.

He has Agoraphobia!? I'm fairly new to the Marvel Universe as a whole so I don't know much about Sentry, so can someone explain to me how he fights Crime or Cosmic threats or Whatever with Agoraphobia? What Can He fight from his house or waits until the threats enter his confort zone or something?

[Vidocq]

On the other hand, what about Captain Britain? Ms Marvel? Flight + Speed + Strength = Superman ripoff, apparently. Never mind the fact that the Sentry has a God complex, was an amnesiac, is his own worst enemy (literally), used to have substance abuse problems (which led to him receiving his powers in the first place), split personalities and agoraphobia (I'm not too fond of the last two), just because of his powers, people think "Superman". Ridiculous.

He has Agoraphobia!? I'm fairly new to the Marvel Universe as a whole so I don't know much about Sentry, so can someone explain to me how he fights Crime or Cosmic threats or Whatever with Agoraphobia? What Can He fight from his house or waits until the threats enter his confort zone or something?

[Jake V]

He has Agoraphobia!? I'm fairly new to the Marvel Universe as a whole so I don't know much about Sentry, so can someone explain to me how he fights Crime or Cosmic threats or Whatever with Agoraphobia? What Can He fight from his house or waits until the threats enter his confort zone or something?

Getting him to do anything heroic tends to require an extreme amount of coaxing.

And then sometimes it doesn't take anything at all.

He's crazy.

[Mundungus]

Not that I think the Punisher can kill the Sentry, but I like the Sentry. I'll check this book out, could be exciting.

[GalactaSurfer]

Love that cover! This could defenitly be interesting. A part of me hopes Frank would kill Sentry and another side hopes Frank gives him a wake up call, like "hey! get it together or im going to shoot you in the face" at least when Sentry is in his Bob/Agoraphobic state.

Could there be a possible armlock? :tongue:

[FearEmbodied]

As someone said on another forum, this book will probably end with Frank and Sentry teaming up to throw people into the sun and stuff.

[Raptor]

what about the time he feed banner c4 and cosipation medicane just to blow up the hulk's stomach?

Also clever, still isn't going toe to toe with something out of his league.

I don't think you understand my point. I'm going to try one more time.

I like punisher, I don't like sentry, but I don't dislike him. I'm realistic. punisher is out of his league if doing anything beyond messing with alter egos.

if that isn't clear I'm sorry. I agree its clever, I agree he still wins, but if hulk showed up and grabbed frank without any trickery before hand....frank is done.

I still think banner and hulk need to go away again for a while or should have been left on planet hulk.

[tkitna]

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[tkitna]

So the fact that he's been relentlessly beaten up since day one is still not enough to convince fanboys that he's weaker than Superman?


Um, can you name a few people thats beaten him up (without bringing up the stalemate with WWH when Bob was laughing and taking shots from him)? I'm just wondering if we've been reading the same books.

Let me try to guess though.

- Was it when he was trading punches with Ultron as Ms. Marvel told him to hold back the entire time (of course when the kid gloves came off, we all know how that went down)?

- Maybe Iron Man when he messed with CLOC and Bob had a breakdown right after beating Tony like a child?

- Maybe the Collective when he transported the Sentry away?

- Maybe Genis-Vell when he also BFR'd Bob?

- Maybe the Inhumans when Bob humbled them?

- Heck, maybe it was Wolverine himself since he was stated as never losing a fight for some reason?

I'm just curious as to how I missed all these beatings that the Sentry has taken.

[JET ACE LOGAN]

i think everyone knows that sentry will not be killed..... marvel just does not let this happen, maybe he had of been a villian hardly ever used, like stilt man but not some one out of the avengers......

[pharoahe22]

I think the Sentry could be really cool. Let's get one thing out of the way: The Sentry is not like Superman. They have both have super-strength and super-speed...and the both have an "S" on their costume somewhere. If you want to be technical, the Sentry, in powers and appearance, is more like Apollo from the Authority (except The Sentry doesn't do the dirty with Moon Knight hahaha). The Sentry's very interesting to me because of his agrophobia...I just don't think it's being handled right. He should be whooping ass sometimes, and being scared other times. The writers have been using the agrophobia too much, because they think he would solve the problems they present in the books in a split second. I have an idea though...why don't you make the prblems worst, so that he can't just come in and save the day. For example, Bendis had the Sentry running off crying in space so that he didn't thwarrt the skrull invasion all by himself. What I would've done instead is, since the skrulls knew about the Sentry, they should've developed a super-skrull team specifically to take him out. They could've made an Inhumans Skrull, an Eternals Skrull, an X-men Skrull, an Avengers Skrull, and a Fantastic four Skrull (not Super-Skrull), and have all 5 of them vs. The Sentry. If he was fighting them the whole time, you'd have him out of the way to progress your story, and everyone wouldn't think he was useless. Or, they could've had the Sentry fight Titannus, who beat the Hulk like he stole something. That would've kept him busy as well. I hope Marvel writers heed my advice.