No outrage over Batman RIP?

[Kid Kyoto]

People were pre-outraged months in advance about the death of the Martian Manhunter and spent years whining about Hal Jordan but no one seems too concerned about the death of Bruce Wayne.

Is there that much faith in Grant Morrison telling a good story?
That much cynicism he'll be back before we miss him?
Or are we all looking forward to the return of the one true Batman, Thomas Wayne!

[DarKye]

Probably because the ending of this story is not so easy to guess, so we don't know whether Bruce dies, gives up being Batman, gives up his civilian identity, goes bat-shit loco or what.

Also, doesn't Bruce appear in Final Crisis?

[Dark Master]

Yes he does, Morrison himself has said that Bruce is not dying, just that he will suffer a terrible trauma and will no longer be Batman.

[Batman was taken]

You weren't around when the story was first announced?

I think the uncertainty of the ending, and the quality of the story are keeping people calm. For now.

[John Lynch]

Yes he does, Morrison himself has said that Bruce is not dying, just that he will suffer a terrible trauma and will no longer be Batman.Well that's good to hear. Although apparently this trauma has a delayed effect.

[AbsurdistEmergence]

You should probably just read Batman RIP. It's one of my favourite batman stories in years. Morrison is completely deconstructing Batman, both physically and mentally. Absolutely great.

[Chiroptera]

People were pre-outraged months in advance about the death of the Martian Manhunter and spent years whining about Hal Jordan but no one seems too concerned about the death of Bruce Wayne.

Is there that much faith in Grant Morrison telling a good story?
That much cynicism he'll be back before we miss him?
Or are we all looking forward to the return of the one true Batman, Thomas Wayne!

I absolutely despise the idea of Batman being so broken down, retiring the mantle, being killed, or anything else to inhibit his continuing of his mission; but I've also found that quote indignation tends to be a less hostile and more acceptable means of loathing than to pointlessly rant and rave about something I don't like.

Really, what would it accomplish for me to voice my outrage? It's not going to change the story any, and it's not going to be met very nicely on a board with the majority actually enjoying the current arc and writer.
From what I've seen, most RIP nay-sayers feel the same way, there's just not point to voicing our discontent; Grant Morrison is currently a golden boy for DC and speaking against him does nothing but earn dirty looks from others.

[beserkerclaw]

your right Bruce wont die at least not in r.i.p. But in final crisis he will either die or if the rumor is true become a new god. allowing Dick,Tim or someone to become batman in the "Battle of the Cowl" the timeline i believe is:

R.I.P.
Last rites(BM 682-683/dec 851)
The Last days of Gotham(BM684/DEC 852)
Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader(BM685 DEC 853)
and if im right i could be wrong but
Battle for the Cowl(BM686 DEC 854) or its a limited or crosses over as well with Robin and Nightwing

[nepenthes]

What's the point of getting outraged over a comic book? That's very self-absorbed and fruitless. I love Batman but I hardly to need to voice my concern whenever he's mistreated. He's not a little puppy dog playing on the road. Stories are just stories, play around with it, bend it, throw it up against a wall and see if it smashes, he's strong. Basically Batman's already better than any of you guys, what do you think you can do to help the comics? When they tell bad stories the best thing you can do is simply not buy them. Do something else, worry about something real. For years all I read was Gotham Central while the main titles were shit

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[ANewHope]

There really isn't too much to complain about.

You might not like the direction Batman is heading, but the execution of the story is so well done that you really can't complain. Everything is coming together for a grand finale, involving just about everyone in Batman's life.

Although I'm not really a fan of kill-everyone- Joker, it doesn't bother me as far as continuity gos. He's always been one crazy son of a bitch, so I guess just killing everyone for fun doesn't surprise me that much. At least he did something cool with the razor instead of just killing people. However, I think if anyone cuts their tonuge that much, they won't be able to talk anymore. At least it looked cool, but thats my only criticism. And anyone who complains about realism in comic books, is just wasting their time in general.

It's a great story, it's almost epic in the making. Morrison is telling one hellova story.

[XPac]

The thing is Final Crisis takes place after Batman RIP if I'm not mistaken... and Batman is right there. Unless that's not Bruce, whatever happens can't be TOO bad.

[Chiroptera]

What's the point of getting outraged over a comic book? That's very self-absorbed and fruitless. I love Batman but I hardly to need to voice my concern whenever he's mistreated. He's not a little puppy dog playing on the road. Stories are just stories, play around with it, bend it, throw it up against a wall and see if it smashes, he's strong. Basically Batman's already better than any of you guys, what do you think you can do to help the comics? When they tell bad stories the best thing you can do is simply not buy them. Do something else, worry about something real. For years all I read was Gotham Central while the main titles were shit

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Nail on the head, right there.

I got pulled into RIP and want to see how it ends, once I have I'll be dropping Batman. If you don't like something, don't read it. Bitching about it doesn't accomplish anything; I wish more people could understand this so we would see less pointless griping and more constructive criticism when people think a story is bad.

[ZT4]

The thing is Final Crisis takes place after Batman RIP if I'm not mistaken... and Batman is right there. Unless that's not Bruce, whatever happens can't be TOO bad.

FC is supposed to be where all the events from R.I.P converge and seal his fate once and for all...so it's likely Bruce is SO traumatised by what happens that he hynoticly surpresses it, and his torture on Apokolips brings it all out permanently.

[Mat001]

Pretty much. Besides, it's Bruce in FC because he calls Superman "Clark". Robin, Nightwing, Hush or Daimen wouldn't be so bold. That and both Dick and Tim are seen together in the Article X draft scene in FC #3.

[DonC]

What's the point of getting outraged over a comic book? That's very self-absorbed and fruitless


Back when "Knightfall" was happening one of the writers in the Batman line (Doug Moench?) got a death threat on his answering machine. "If Batman dies, so do you."

Some people really do take their funny books that seriously.

[Bat-Reader]

It's fun to read really, i got a blast out of reading crazy Batman.

But i can't buy in to the Batman volinteers for an experimant part... (silver age logic i guess...) if he had wanted to do an experimant, he would have done it with Alfred in the cave. A guy who has such a trust issues woudn't have left himself in the hands of doctor hurt. Batman would have known the consecuencias of it. And i wish the zurr en arhh costume was a little bit more casual looking...

But whatever Batman won't die. (YAY :D ) This's what really matters.

[Mat001]

Back when "Knightfall" was happening one of the writers in the Batman line (Doug Moench?) got a death threat on his answering machine. "If Batman dies, so do you."

Some people really do take their funny books that seriously.

So did Ron Marz when he was first writing Green Lantern following his debut with "Emerald Twilight" and that went on for about six or seven years.

[Lester C.]

Grant tends to get a pass by the internet comunity for story choices that would otherwise drive them nuts if anyone else wrote it.

[dotdotdot]

Grant tends to get a pass by the internet comunity for story choices that would otherwise drive them nuts if anyone else wrote it.

you don't really get it. for one, no one else would ever write it.