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Vidocq
09-24-2008, 10:12 PM
This was a serious issue centered around The Gordon Family. Unlike Batman, Jim hasn't changed all that much since Year One, his family, however, has been crumbling down. Ever since he cheated, Barbara has become an alcoholic, She is in an Car accident and hospitalized. His Daughter Barbara (the ****ing Batgirl) you already saw in the Arcade, afterwards she realized that she has caused a riot and that the mob is going to kill the Drug dealers she beated earlier. That's obviously not what she wanted and tries to stop them but it's punched right in the jaw and is arrested. She is pretty badass in this issue. She says that she dosen't want for his father to bail her out, That she dosen't want for his badge to be stained, Jim admires her bravery. Apparently Jim's badge is already stained, back in Chicago. but Miller dosen't expand on it, (I hope he does in the future). Barbara tells him to call Sara and Jim relunctatly does.

Black Canary apparently plans to start a vigilante gang, she plans it while burning an kinapping/prostitution ring.

Batman Finds Catwoman in the sewers which apparently was his first Batcave and is also the place where He and Selina first had sex. Their is an explanation to his sudden change since Year One. Apparently, he wanted to prove himself that he didn't need Bruce Wayne and went to live in the sewers were he lived on rats, He was Batman 24/7. My guess is that Selina's... nurture snaped him out of it. This is just me reading between the lines though, I might be wrong.

The Art is as always... Awesome.

theNighteye
09-24-2008, 10:22 PM
cool spoilers.


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nepenthes
09-25-2008, 06:46 AM
wow that action in the sewers sounds hilarious. and perfect

I'm also loving the thought of all the downer fanboys flipping out at that :biggrin: :rolleyes:

god bless you Frank!

Tanjint
09-25-2008, 09:35 AM
Loved it, as usual. It's decompressed as shit but it kind of needs be, the arcs will be great one-sitting reads eventually.

two issues a year though...jesus.

-T

Chachi
09-25-2008, 10:55 AM
Loved it, as usual. It's decompressed as shit but it kind of needs be, the arcs will be great one-sitting reads eventually.

two issues a year though...jesus.

-T

I thought this was only the second issue this year. Issue 8 with Joker on the cover came out in December 07 - correct? Issues #11 and #12 are scheduled to ship before the end of the year - we'll see? Miller did say he was working on issue #13.
I actually enjoyed this issue. I dropped it originally after issue #3, but got back into it after I picked up the HC. Looks like Batman and Robin hunt down the joker by issue #12.

Dr. Chaos
09-25-2008, 04:25 PM
Is All Star Batman is going to end eventually like All-Star Super Man or..?

I was abit curious, kind of thought this was some sort of crazy coked up ongoing for awhile now.

pariah-1972
09-25-2008, 05:19 PM
The art was really nice especially in the beginning ....

But there was way way way too much exposition consisting of Gordon either talking to himself at the end of a bay or talking somewhat to Bat-man (i think)
while Bats is hiding under the Pier sitting in the water?

I think Robin is gonna catch a cold.:frown:


If it wasn't for Jim Lee i would not even be bothering with this cause it doesn't make a whole lot of sense half the time.

Vidocq
09-25-2008, 06:45 PM
Is All Star Batman is going to end eventually like All-Star Super Man or..?

I was abit curious, kind of thought this was some sort of crazy coked up ongoing for awhile now.

Is set to end after 22 issues.

The art was really nice especially in the beginning ....

But there was way way way too much exposition consisting of Gordon either talking to himself at the end of a bay or talking somewhat to Bat-man (i think)
while Bats is hiding under the Pier sitting in the water?


He was talking to Batman. The Police wants Batman Dead or Alive Remember? They can't be seen talking to each other, That way if questioned, Gordon could simply Answer that he was just talking to himself.

Didn't you read the rest of the issue?

pariah-1972
09-25-2008, 06:49 PM
Is set to end after 22 issues.



He was talking to Batman. The Police wants Batman Dead or Alive Remember? They can't be seen talking to each other, That way if questioned, Gordon could simply Answer that he was just talking to himself.

Didn't you read the rest of the issue?No i stopped reading the book right after that:rolleyes:

Tanjint
09-26-2008, 11:53 AM
fave line in the book:

"Name me a law that nutcase broad ISN'T breaking!"

-T

FortKnox
09-26-2008, 06:50 PM
What about Jim's son, Jim Jr. did they say anything about him? Since this is taking place after Year One.

Vidocq
09-26-2008, 10:14 PM
What about Jim's son, Jim Jr. did they say anything about him? Since this is taking place after Year One.

Not in this issue, but he is mentioned in issue 6, apparently Jim reads to him every night and hopes that he will become an Detective one day (Jim claims that he is very observant).

robbieglenn
09-27-2008, 10:46 AM
people can mock ASBAR all the want but Miller can still write some good narritives. My favourite bit was Gordon describing the mist as a place for lonely walks and stolen kisses. I liked the issue.

SKETCHSANCHEZ
09-28-2008, 02:16 PM
people can mock ASBAR all the want but Miller can still write some good narritives. My favourite bit was Gordon describing the mist as a place for lonely walks and stolen kisses. I liked the issue.

I agree, same here. I think think the whole issue was an interesting change of pace.

FanRealm
09-29-2008, 05:27 AM
Batman & Robin #10 reviewed in this week's comic review.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=--mlUc5JgkI

Binker
09-29-2008, 06:31 PM
By Nathaniel Ruff (also known as Binker, Binker2 and Nate on many forums)

ALL STAR BATMAN & ROBIN, THE BOY WONDER #10

Written by Frank Miller
Art and Cover by Jim Lee and Scott Williams
Variant Cover by Frank Quitely
Edited by Bob Schreck

PLOT:
Batgirl, Catwoman, Black Canary, and even Detective Gordon's better half give Gotham a headache so big it'll split the city in two!

REVIEW:
Last issue was fine, though a bit weird because of Batman's idea to make everything yellow in order to talk to Green Lantern, which is either funny weird or stupid weird, all depending on how you look at it. Maybe this less jerk Batman serves as some sort of salvation to our ASB&R Batman. Even though, again, this was shown back in #2. Hmm, that does seem to be it, huh? Well then, in that case, issue #10, please? I mean we had to wait two weeks because it was pulled. Can we get it now? Oh, here it is!

So finally, FINALLY we have the latest issue of All Star Batman & Robin. Now, we did get some developments, but it's been tricky on how much those developments define how much progress in the story this issue accomplished. Thus it can be tricky. Yes, this is issue 10, and yes me saying this now ON issue #10 seems to be a too late moment toward me, but I'm not going to argue. This issue was still good, and the fact that we got some developments shows that. First, Batman & Robin know that Joker attacked Catwoman, and she will be sent to the Batcave (guess, next issue will probably answer that), and secondly Barbara Gordon has a fun time as Batgirl that ends with the cops arresting her and her father knowing her daughter's "fun time". Followed by a bit by Black Canary, still doing what she does.

I like to point out that, while you could try and still take Miller's words, there were a couple of things that made me say now that "Batman: Year One" isn't also canon in Miller's DKR Universe. It's not just Sarah now being called Sara, but it was Gordon's feelings toward Batman; not caring about him, and considering him a lunatic (same with Catwoman also). That doesn't gel well with the Gordon at the end of "Year One", where he and Batman become partners and allies. Also, as Batman mentions his age as 26 (maybe not the case in "Year One"), he speaks on his mother's murder as "bullets turning her brains into wad", and that is obvious it's not "Year One" (nor DCU for that matter, but why should've I said that when All Star ISN"T DCU TO BEGIN WITH). I think that A "Year One", not THE "Year One", is what Miller really meant as being a prequel to ASB&R. I haven't read his script to that proposed "Year One" film, maybe that is? Hmm, forget it.

So overall, this issue was still good. There were some developments, but it's still making me WANT the next issue just to finish up this story that started way back in issue #1. Since "All Star Superman" is done, I find myself wanting to compare one All Star title toward the other. That won't happen for various reasons. But for the reason this issue was pulled two weeks ago, those black bars: while I do see their point for them, and why they pulled the issue when those words could still have been read, but they still do help you in knowing what words are actually being used. I still have those preview pages with those not-so-black bars, and comparing them to the new published ones, there is no way I could've known that word was an S-word and not an F-word. Get what I mean? I hope so. Anyway, like always, can't wait for the next one.

RATING: Yay

Next Issue: Fines against the Dark Knight are doubled!

dusty3636
09-29-2008, 06:43 PM
Wow. All that happened in the latest issue? The reason I swore to never pay for the book again was the first Canary issue. I felt like next to nothing happened in the issue (plus a few extra problems), but if all of that happens in this issue I may pick it up again. I'm frightened to say...that sounds kind of interesting.

pariah-1972
09-29-2008, 06:46 PM
Does anyone get the feeling that this thing is not really plotted out beforehand?

I would bet that that is the cause of some of the delays.

Vidocq
09-29-2008, 07:12 PM
I like to point out that, while you could try and still take Miller's words, there were a couple of things that made me say now that "Batman: Year One" isn't also canon in Miller's DKR Universe. It's not just Sarah now being called Sara, but it was Gordon's feelings toward Batman; not caring about him, and considering him a lunatic (same with Catwoman also). That doesn't gel well with the Gordon at the end of "Year One", where he and Batman become partners and allies. Also, as Batman mentions his age as 26 (maybe not the case in "Year One"), he speaks on his mother's murder as "bullets turning her brains into wad", and that is obvious it's not "Year One" (nor DCU for that matter, but why should've I said that when All Star ISN"T DCU TO BEGIN WITH). I think that A "Year One", not THE "Year One", is what Miller really meant as being a prequel to ASB&R. I haven't read his script to that proposed "Year One" film, maybe that is? Hmm, forget it.

I Gordon does care for Batman. He gave him a piece of evidence at the docks in the beggining of the Book, and in issue 6 he tells Sara he tells Sara that he likes what he is doing with Gotham but what buggs him is into what he has become, and that he is inspiring Copycats (one of them ironically his daughter).
Also at the end of #10, He appeares to want to talk to him in his darkest hour, which implies that they he started to consider him a friend (an Idea that troubles him, considering how unhealthy it is that his only friend is as excentric).
Also Batman has been behaving like a Lunatic lately (to Batman's own admision). I think that they are partners, a lot more clandestine than other continuities, but partners never the less.

Besides DKR shows Gordon and Bruce remembering a scene from Year One and in ASBAR is mentioned that the Joker tried too Poison the water supply a year ago. The Joker answers that he was just getting started back then. Just like the final scene of Year One.