View Full Version : A new way to write events like Final Crisis
J L Brooklyn
09-22-2008, 10:28 AM
While I like the modern style of writing, character interaction and development etc. and the shock value scenes, such as Wonder Dog mauling Wendy and Marvin... sometimes I feel a little ripped off.
It's the Superhero battles, or lack of them in certain issues. Let's face it, Grant Morrison and a few other writers are not great in the fight scene department. Stories like Earth-2 and could have been so much better if they just had a fight scene specialist like Dwayne McDuffie write Morrison's battles for him.
IMO DC should not have let Morrison write all of FC, McDuffie should have written all of the fights. I say this because of Dwayne's run on JLA. His Legion of Doom and Amazo vs. JLA are the definition of a comic book battle. No doubt the man honed his fight cheography skills working on the Justice League animated series. While some may find his writing skills lacking, possibly for personal reasons, IMO it was 10x better than the slow moving fan-boy crap Meltzer put together, and no one can dispute that McDuffie can write a good fight. DC should start giving McDuffie a few pages of Meltzer's and Morrison's books.
I don't know - I wasn't too impressed with what I saw of his Orion fight scenes in Firestorm or whatever it was, a year or two ago, if it's the same guy I'm thinking of. Wouldn't want to see him anywhere near the New Gods after that one. But then, I can say that of just about every current writer I've seen make the attempt to work with those characters, outside Morrison and Simonson, and maybe Gail Simone, based on her Barda in BoP and Parademon in the villains thing.
Superboy-Prime
09-23-2008, 06:28 PM
I would appreciate if you got off McDuffies cock. And McDuffie's Jla kinda blows, its better then Meltzer's arc, but not by a long shot tho. McDuffie should be the last person writing any fight scene....he made black panther put silver surfer in a freakin headlock in his lame FF run...that was amazingly dumb.
CBikle
09-23-2008, 08:31 PM
I can't really accept the premise of your argument; Morrisson's fight scenes are the way they are by design and Meltzer's JLA vs. Deathstroke fight in Identity Crisis was one of the most memorable fight sequences in comics (love it or hate it).
Your idea of a "fight plotter" is already done in some cases where the writer will just let the artist think up and draw most of the details of a fight scene.
The old "Marvel House Style" of art was similar to this: the artist would draw out the book leaving room for thought balloons and captions for the writer and editor to fill with dialogue or narration.
GRANT!
09-23-2008, 11:14 PM
I thought the Mary Marvel/Wonder Woman fight was pretty good. Morrison can write good fight scenes. See All Star Superman #11 and #12.
Tanjint
09-25-2008, 09:27 AM
I love Morrison's fight scenes....I trust we'll get some good ones in FC yet.
-T
4thHorseman
09-25-2008, 09:39 AM
Have you read Morrison's run on JLA? It's one of my favorite runs in comics period. That had plenty of action and shows that Morrison knows how to write fight scenes too.
Dagger
09-25-2008, 09:48 AM
While I like the modern style of writing, character interaction and development etc. and the shock value scenes, such as Wonder Dog mauling Wendy and Marvin... sometimes I feel a little ripped off.
It's the Superhero battles, or lack of them in certain issues. Let's face it, Grant Morrison and a few other writers are not great in the fight scene department. Stories like Earth-2 and could have been so much better if they just had a fight scene specialist like Dwayne McDuffie write Morrison's battles for him.
IMO DC should not have let Morrison write all of FC, McDuffie should have written all of the fights. I say this because of Dwayne's run on JLA. His Legion of Doom and Amazo vs. JLA are the definition of a comic book battle. No doubt the man honed his fight cheography skills working on the Justice League animated series. While some may find his writing skills lacking, possibly for personal reasons, IMO it was 10x better than the slow moving fan-boy crap Meltzer put together, and no one can dispute that McDuffie can write a good fight. DC should start giving McDuffie a few pages of Meltzer's and Morrison's books.
What??? Seriously, McDuffie's work has been some of the most mediocre stuff put to page in quite some time. And that's putting it nicely. Morrison write's circles around McDuffie, and while some may hate what Meltzer did with the JLofA, I found his work to be quite entertaining, and his dialogue is worlds better than what we've gotten from McDuffie. Meltzer's Amazo owned McDuffie's Amazo story.
Sean Walsh
09-29-2008, 08:11 AM
What??? Seriously, McDuffie's work has been some of the most mediocre stuff put to page in quite some time. And that's putting it nicely. Morrison write's circles around McDuffie, and while some may hate what Meltzer did with the JLofA, I found his work to be quite entertaining, and his dialogue is worlds better than what we've gotten from McDuffie. Meltzer's Amazo owned McDuffie's Amazo story.
Same here. Meltzer had a way of presenting it all that was far more interesting than McDuffie's basically standard superhero fare.
It's more the upcoming subject matter, though, that turns me off to McDuffie's JLA. The mystical animal totem stuff is just beyond uninteresting to me, and Milestone...........I didn't read it in the '90s, I don't wanna read it now or for the foreseeable future since this is where it seems DC is reintroducing the majority of those guys.
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