Save Jay Faerber's Urban Myths!

[Greg Anderson]

Pilot Season is a contest run by Top Cow Productions to have readers vote for two books they would like to see published. Among the running was Urban Myths, a book by Jay Faerber that I fell in love with through the one-shot. I'm a huge Greek mythology fan and what Faerber did with that book, mixing Greek myths along with a modern setting detective story was simply amazing. Urban Myths was in the Top 2 until Warren Ellis mentioned that he read and enjoyed another book in the contest and that lead many people to vote for thus book, dropping Urban Myths out of the Top 2 spot. But here is a chance for Urban Myths to continue on. I started a petition to get the book out and would surely appreciate for people to help me out in saving Urban Myths. Thank you for your time.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/SaveUrbanMyths

It should be noted, though, that writing to Top Cow would be better in attracting their attentions, so please write to fanmail@topcowent.com to save the book.

[Comicdood]

I'll defnitely sign.

The bad feelings over this aren't helped by the fact that Ellis is over on scans_daily laughing about his part in it.

[Greg Anderson]

I'll defnitely sign.

The bad feelings over this aren't helped by the fact that Ellis is over on scans_daily laughing about his part in it.

LOL, wow. Can you link me?

[Comicdood]

Here you go. (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/6262940.html?thread=236056988#t236056988)

[bushboy]

Here you go. (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/6262940.html?thread=236056988#t236056988)

Ok. No offense to Jay, I read all his other titles. But I'm glad Genius won. Didn't read the other one. Which one did Ellis choose?

[Comicdood]

Ok. No offense to Jay, I read all his other titles. But I'm glad Genius won. Didn't read the other one. Which one did Ellis choose?


He plugged Genius.

[michaeljsmith]

You know I am in on this one - signed and e-mailed TOP COW (the e-mail is the important part people)

[michaeljsmith]

Here you go. (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/6262940.html?thread=236056988#t236056988)

Thanks for the heads up - I asked Warren Ellis to sign the petition too :wink:

[Greg Anderson]

Thanks for the heads up - I asked Warren Ellis to sign the petition too :wink:

LOL, did he reply? That's be awesome.

[michaeljsmith]

LOL, did he reply? That's be awesome.

NO - but I do not know if he goes back and checks threads after he posts. He is very active all over the place.

[Ben Akers]

Of course he is, there are plenty of fanboys to stroke his already oversized ego.

[dan bailey]

Though, y'know, compared to, say, Mark Millar, Ellis is a self-debasing hermit who's taken a vow of silence. Which is downright frightening.

[Greg Anderson]

Brik, check the petition, Ellis actually signed, lol.

[michaeljsmith]

For those of you interested in the cause - we now have a home. Check out the official home of Bring Jack Back.

http://bringjackback.blogspot.com

Please pass this around to anyone you know :biggrin:

[Ben Akers]

Though, y'know, compared to, say, Mark Millar, Ellis is a self-debasing hermit who's taken a vow of silence. Which is downright frightening.

Well, At least Millar has written something I've actually enjoyed in the last, oh, we'll say two years. My opinion of Ellis has dropped considerably in that time.

[dan bailey]

Well, At least Millar has written something I've actually enjoyed in the last, oh, we'll say two years. My opinion of Ellis has dropped considerably in that time.

Ellis' Avatar stuff hasn't done much for me, but in my estimation he's still getting a bit of a pass for having done Nextwave. Whereas I found the first 2 issues (I certainly dropped it after that) of Millar's Kick-Ass flesh-crawlingly bad, so much so that I'm pretty sure I'd have to be drugged before I'd buy anything else with his name on it.

[michaeljsmith]

Well, At least Millar has written something I've actually enjoyed in the last, oh, we'll say two years. My opinion of Ellis has dropped considerably in that time.

Him as a person - no comment. His work - that is a different story. I enjoy FreakAngels and Doktor Sleepless and I liked Black Summer. My only real complaint he need to try writing a story without every other word being an f-bomb.

[Ben Akers]

See, I'm quite enjoying Kick-Ass. It's not on the same level as Criminal or Powers, but it's enjoyable for me. Amazingly, Millar hasn't done all that much work over the past few years, but I've read some of his back catalog in that time and so its fresh in my mind.

I really didn't like Nextwave at all. I keep trying to like stuff that Ellis is doing because back in the day he was one of my favorite writers. It's been awhile and I've bought a lot of stuff that I will deem a waste of money. So besides my opinion of him as a person, his work hasn't given me any enjoyment in quite some time.

Of course, this really shouldn't fall into a who's the better writer or who has the biggest ego thread.

[michaeljsmith]

...and most importantly -->
Bring Jack Back - Save Urban Myths

http://bringjackback.blogspot.com (and sign the petition located on our site)

[Ben Akers]

Sorry about the tangents...

[Greg Anderson]

Sorry about the tangents...

Heh heh, it's all gravy, Davy. :smile:

[michaeljsmith]

This whole process is going to be one long, intelligent, tangent. Like your style Ben :evilsmile:

[holeycrullers]

Of course, this really shouldn't fall into a who's the better writer or who has the biggest ego thread.

That's true, as I would take both crowns...:biggrin:

[michaeljsmith]

That's true, as I would take both crowns...:biggrin:


....and here I was just talking about you in the SPAWN thread - that is scary. :eek:

[Greg Anderson]

That's true, as I would take both crowns...:biggrin:

LOL! You just know how to make friends, don't you? :biggrin:

[KJ_81]

Didn't even know about this book.

Love Dynamo 5, and some of Jay's earlier Marvel work, will definitely buy this.

[holeycrullers]

Didn't even know about this book.

Love Dynamo 5, and some of Jay's earlier Marvel work, will definitely buy this.

Brik, if this fella didn't even know about the book, your PR powers are waning...:biggrin:

[Kaos]

I think Faerber needs to calm the FUGG down and stop doing so many titles..and maybe lengthen the ones he's already doing. I mean Dynamo 5 is alright but it's like having a pack of ONE oreo instead of four. I mean it tastes nice and all but it's over too quickly and the shops too far away for you to get more.

[Greg Anderson]

I think Faerber needs to calm the FUGG down and stop doing so many titles..and maybe lengthen the ones he's already doing. I mean Dynamo 5 is alright but it's like having a pack of ONE oreo instead of four. I mean it tastes nice and all but it's over too quickly and the shops too far away for you to get more.

Hmm, I'm actually pretty satisfied with Dynamo 5. And Noble Causes which I'm sad is ending and I'm more than extremely excited for Urban Myths due to my love for Greek mythology, Jay writing, and also how fan-damn-tastic the Pilot issue was.

[Kaos]

Hmm, I'm actually pretty satisfied with Dynamo 5. And Noble Causes which I'm sad is ending and I'm more than extremely excited for Urban Myths due to my love for Greek mythology, Jay writing, and also how fan-damn-tastic the Pilot issue was.

Dynamo 5 is like the most expensive comic I cop...and it's the shortest...how does that even make sense.

[michaeljsmith]

Brik, if this fella didn't even know about the book, your PR powers are waning...:biggrin:

Point well taken - and hence my last post on my blog. I let my guard down at the end and while you "winners" were out there pimping away I was planning a party 'Diddy Style to celebrate a win that never came. :mad:

[michaeljsmith]

Dynamo 5 is like the most expensive comic I cop...and it's the shortest...how does that even make sense.

The most expensive? It is $3.50? Over half the books I read are that much or more. Faeber is not doing THAT many titles. He has one monthly that is ending in 4 issues (Noble Causes) and one monthly that is continuing (Dynamo 5). He has a mini-series out right now (Gemini) and that is it. Hell he could do 3 or 4 more books and I would be happy.

[Ben Akers]

I've always found Dynamo 5 to be worth every penny, even if there are some extra ones thrown in there.

[michaeljsmith]

I've always found Dynamo 5 to be worth every penny, even if there are some extra ones thrown in there.


...and URBAN MYTHS will be too, when we "Bring Jack Back"

[Kaos]

The most expensive? It is $3.50? Over half the books I read are that much or more. Faeber is not doing THAT many titles. He has one monthly that is ending in 4 issues (Noble Causes) and one monthly that is continuing (Dynamo 5). He has a mini-series out right now (Gemini) and that is it. Hell he could do 3 or 4 more books and I would be happy.

Nah here, it costs more than alllll the titles I get.

...Although it isn't that much money it's still shorter so I ain really feelin it.

[holeycrullers]

The most expensive? It is $3.50? Over half the books I read are that much or more. .

Criminy, Brik, maybe that's part of the problem. I hate to sound like Old Man Curmudgeon here, but when I was a kid, a comic book and a candy bar cost about the same amount. Going to a movie would cost at least ten times what a funnybook did.

As we can all clearly see, candy bars do not cost three dollars now. A movie ticket does not set you back thirty dollars.

Which means comics become much less appealing as an entertainment investment, and much too expensive to get a lot of new readers hooked.

[Greg Anderson]

Criminy, Brik, maybe that's part of the problem. I hate to sound like Old Man Curmudgeon here, but when I was a kid, a comic book and a candy bar cost about the same amount. Going to a movie would cost at least ten times what a funnybook did.

As we can all clearly see, candy bars do not cost three dollars now. A movie ticket does not set you back thirty dollars.

Which means comics become much less appealing as an entertainment investment, and much too expensive to get a lot of new readers hooked.

I miss when comics were only 2 bucks. :frown:

[dan bailey]

I miss when comics were only 2 bucks. :frown:

And I'm so ancient that I miss when comics were only 12 cents. *siiiiiiiiigh*

[michaeljsmith]

Criminy, Brik, maybe that's part of the problem. I hate to sound like Old Man Curmudgeon here, but when I was a kid, a comic book and a candy bar cost about the same amount. Going to a movie would cost at least ten times what a funnybook did.

As we can all clearly see, candy bars do not cost three dollars now. A movie ticket does not set you back thirty dollars.

Which means comics become much less appealing as an entertainment investment, and much too expensive to get a lot of new readers hooked.

The world of economics by T Hickman.... how many credit hours and where do I sign up? I don't like early classes and if we can make sure it ends early on Fridays I like to get over to Harry's for a beer :rolleyes:

I wish comics were still a lot cheaper. Yes when I jumped on board they were just under a dollar, but candy bars were half that price and more like $0.40 so I did not have the equal factor (maybe I am just too young). As for the movies - when is the last time you went. I swear 2 tickets and a bag of popcorn cost be $102 the other day :eek:

[Kaos]

The world of economics by T Hickman.... how many credit hours and where do I sign up? I don't like early classes and if we can make sure it ends early on Fridays I like to get over to Harry's for a beer :rolleyes:

I wish comics were still a lot cheaper. Yes when I jumped on board they were just under a dollar, but candy bars were half that price and more like $0.40 so I did not have the equal factor (maybe I am just too young). As for the movies - when is the last time you went. I swear 2 tickets and a bag of popcorn cost be $102 the other day :eek:

That was the other day, it's pushing 200 today

[holeycrullers]

The world of economics by T Hickman.... how many credit hours and where do I sign up? I don't like early classes and if we can make sure it ends early on Fridays I like to get over to Harry's for a beer :rolleyes:

I wish comics were still a lot cheaper. Yes when I jumped on board they were just under a dollar, but candy bars were half that price and more like $0.40 so I did not have the equal factor (maybe I am just too young). As for the movies - when is the last time you went. I swear 2 tickets and a bag of popcorn cost be $102 the other day :eek:

If you buy movie popcorn, you're playing a sucker's game.

I took my g/f to see both the Batman and Iron Man movies recently. We saw both as matinees, and I think each cost us something like $11 a piece (and that's in Vancouver, which is hardly the cheapest market in North America).

That means that a 2-3 hour block of movie entertainment only costs about 4 times what the average twenty-minutes-to-read comic does (as opposed to the ten times, at least, that it was when I was a kid). The price of movies has gone up maybe 500%, where the cost of comics has gone up something like 1500%.

Yes, there are reasons for this, but I really think one of the keys to the survival of the medium is to find ways to do it much cheaper (which doesn't mean paying me less). :biggrin:

[dan bailey]

I haven't the vaguest idea of what a movie would've cost when I was a kid. I went to very, very few of them anyway, & then the only theatre in town shut down when I was maybe 9 (depending on the time of year in 1968 that John Wayne's Hellfighters came out -- that's the last flick it ever screened, as the marquee showed for years afterward), & even them my mother would've paid for the ticket. But yeah, my personal economic model was probably irrevocably shaped by the comic=cost of coke/candy bar model. I've mentioned elsewhere more than once that I gave up comics cold turkey circa 12/78 (& stayed away for some 25 years!) when the cover price went to 40 cents, which for all I know is when that pricing standard really fell by the wayside for the first time.

Of course, I suppose it's entirely possible that the latter would cost $3 or so if they could only be bought at specialty shops, rather than drugstores & supermarkets ... Restricting comics sales, for all intents & purposes, to comics shops is perhaps comparable to limiting food & beverage sales to cinemas (where at least the going rate around here is only $6 or so for a matinee showing) or sports arenas, with attendant absurdly high pricing.

[Libaax]

What a joke this is !

I was so sure Urban would become a series it was in top 2 for so long.

Ellis is a jerk for having put in his fanboys with his act :(

I signed the petition. Dont have any hopes, though its sad the only really original idea for a character and his story didnt make the top 2.

[holeycrullers]

What a joke this is !

I was so sure Urban would become a series it was in top 2 for so long.

Ellis is a jerk for having put in his fanboys with his act :(

I signed the petition. Dont have any hopes, though its sad the only really original idea for a character and his story didnt make the top 2.

Uh, it's kind of strange to have not have any hope since Top Cow has already said they're willing to do more with UB after we get the winning Pilot Season books going.

But thanks for the kind words! :wink:

[Greg Anderson]

Uh, it's kind of strange to have not have any hope since Top Cow has already said they're willing to do more with UB after we get the winning Pilot Season books going.

But thanks for the kind words! :wink:

LOL! :redface:

[Libaax]

Uh, it's kind of strange to have not have any hope since Top Cow has already said they're willing to do more with UB after we get the winning Pilot Season books going.

But thanks for the kind words! :wink:

I havent checked out PS stuff for weaks since the voting was done.

I wouldnt know what Top Cow are saying because i dont read anything by them ever i stopped reading The Darkness.

I meant signing petitions dont ever change anything.

Of course its good news if they say they are willing to more with UB afterwards.

Can only wait and see then if something happens in 2010 or 2011 with time it usually takes fo new comics of Image/Top Cows to come out Pilot season or not :rolleyes: .

[holeycrullers]

I havent checked out PS stuff for weaks since the voting was done.

I wouldnt know what Top Cow are saying because i dont read anything by them ever i stopped reading The Darkness.
.

Oh, I think you're underestimating yourself. Given your comments, you've obviously recently read at least the six Pilot Season comics.

[Libaax]

Oh, I think you're underestimating yourself. Given your comments, you've obviously recently read at least the six Pilot Season comics.

I didnt count those since it was only a tryout and not monthly on my pull list.

Plus i only really liked Urban and Alibi and both lost heh.

Can i also hope i have missed they removed the crappy creative team in The Darkness :tongue:

[michaeljsmith]

I too am not a fan of petitions but I have signed a few in my day. The big difference this time around for me though is exactly what Troy said.. Top Cow wants to produce more Urban Myths. They know they have a money maker because it did do so well in the initial voting. I have personally talked to a couple of the higher ups at Top Cow and they have told me "show us there is an audience and you will see more Urban Myths".

Thanks for signing the petition and try to get anyone else you know to sign it too. I am hoping to give Top Cow and update in the near future of our progress to BRING JACK BACK :biggrin: