Uncanny X-Men #502 - Summary Thread (Spoilers and Sexual Themes!)

[worstblogever]

Uncanny X-Men #502

Karma's been used for bait for the Hellfire Cult, who are running throughout San Fran brutally assaulting any mutants they can find, fueled by Empath. Once Nightcrawler teleports in with Wolverine to help her fend off her attackers, she points out how their masks make them immune to psionics somehow. Nightcrawler suggests she back out of the fight and leave it to them, to be safe. And while Karma is a bit disappointed, since she was having fun beating up one or two herself, she complies (laundry at their base, one can assume).

Cyclops has Emma Frost transmitting his thoughts to Logan and Kurt, and reminds them to bring back a Hellfire Cult goon alive. Kurt finds this odd, as the X-Men aren't killers, but Wolverine plays dumb (since Kurt doesn't know what he and X-Force do on weekends...) about Cyke's comment. Kurt teleports out of the line of fire of a bullet, and behind the gunman, putting him in a chokehold and making him pass out. Logan does the same on another Cult member, and suddenly, there's only one left.

One very frightened guy, who pees his pants in terror. And his night's far from over.

Meanwhile... Megan Gwynn, aka Pixie, is laid up in bed, nursing her injuries from the massive beatdown she got last ish. And don't be fooled by what her facial expressions looked like while it happened, she totally didn't enjoy it.

Beast, realizing his patient is still a bit shaken, comes in with a tray of coffee (HANK! NO! Don't give this girl caffeine! You're only feeding her Red Bull/energy drink addiction!) Hank brought some company...

And that's when the long, dry spell, the agony of anticipation ends for the fans of the Goddess of DivaSparkles... She's back! It's...

Dazzler!!!! *fierce!*

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Wow. Is Pixie like the Make-A-Wish kid dying of cancer of the X-team, or what? Ilyana Rasputin was dying of the Legacy Virus, and she never got treatment like this.

Anyway... a particularly busty Dazzler (seriously, whoever she's traced off of has some disproportionate implants) introduces herself as Ali, and suddenly, Pixie's up in bed and wide awake. Beast nonchalantly says, "What? I know her. We're old friends. Thought she might cheer you up." Take note, ladies and gents. For Hank McCoy has the hook-up.

Well, Dazzler heard about what happened, and wanted to check and see how Megan is. Pixie's concerned about how she doesn't look her best, but Ali downplays it, and cuts to the chase... she's got some business to discuss with young Pixie! She heard that her wings create some psychotropic dust when she shakes them (Dazzler wants to relive the 70s by snorting a line off of Pixie's wings? NEAT!). But seriously, Dazzler wants Pixie to get all healed up, and then she wants her to come dance for her in her shows, and let her hallucinogenic dust make the shows even trippier. Like a Pink Floyd Laser Light show times a billion kinds of awesome...

Back at Greymalkin Industries, the member of the Hellfire Cult is strpped down to a table (bondage reference #1), confused, and asking where he is. Cyclops tells him, "You're in hell. Hi." And as the cult member is helpless to defend himself, Cyclops sends out Mr. Xiong, who was a mutant acupuncturist in San Francisco, who had his powers taken by the Decimation. He used to be able to create psionic needles that could drain psychic toxins from his patients prior to M-Day. And, now he's working with real needles on the cult member. Why? Karma's a bit of a mind reader, and still present. And she can tell, their prisoner is terrified of needles. Karma leaves the room, amused with herself.

Cyclops explains to the guy who his optic blasts are just concussive force, and starts moving a beam closer to the needles that have already been placed into the guy's face, and as Emma watches from the next room, he starts panicking and spilling his guts about the entire Hellfire Cult operation.

Cyke moves into the next room to discuss the intel with Emma Frost, and he tells her they know where the cult's at, when they're staffed, and the downside... their masks make them immune to psionics. Meaning, Emma will need to be muscle. And, this cues Emma to... well...

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Go into diamond form, flex an arm, and grin like an idiot, flaunting the impossibly large breasts on a freakishly small waist.

Cyclops asks a good question... where did a bunch racist thugs get tech like that?

Meanwhile (again with the meanwhiles), in the Greymalkin Industries Garage, Wolverine works on his car while a radio plays Joe Walsh's "Life's Been Good" Just then, Pixie enters, and Wolverine realizes she was planning on sneaking out, and leaving without telling anyone. She tries to change subjects about leaving, by asking him if his car actually works... and Wolverine... shows off for a teen sidekick.

Logan actually does her the favor of giving her a ride all the way to Oakland, where she has a place to stay for awhile. Logan subtlely still tries pointing out that she's running away, and as long as her mutation is that obvious, there's no point in running anywhere. Pixie thanks him for the ride and leaves.

Emma Frost, meanwhile, decides to gather up the strike team to take on the Hellfire Cult, and seeks out Nightcrawler. It seems Kurt's taken the initiative, and built a chapel inside Greymalkin Industries, without asking anyone. He just felt that it could provide members of the team with a place for comfort. (other than all the sex the team's supposedly been having, of course). And, Kurt, for his part, is kind enough to ask Emma if she prays. Her answer?

"These are two hundred dollar Italian cashmere Kiki De Montparnasse stockings, Kurt. I'll only kneel in them if absolutely necessary. Op's up in ten minutes, your holiness."

Speaking of kneeling for somebody... It's time for more bondage imagery! And in a big way!

The Red Queen, in her full dominatrix getup, has that worm (seriously, she calls him worm like six or seven times in this issue.) Empath, on all fours, and she wants him to tell her all about Emma Frost. To get him ready to talk, she even places her stiletto boot on his face. Empath has a story he tells (giving us a flashback of all the Hellions) being taught by Emma how to break the minds of men. But one night, Empath got a bit giddy, and tried to use his powers to peek around in his headmistress' head while she slept. (Holy rohypnol, Batman!) Emma detected him right away, saying, "Manuel, you little maggott (worse than a worm?)" So, instead, she gave him what he wanted. She opened up her mind to him, and forced him inside. And as Empath puts it, "She was ice. She was cold, cruel nothingness. It was the most beautiful and perfect thing I had ever seen."

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The Red Queen, hearing this, pulls off her gimp mask, and changes her appearance somehow to look just like Emma Frost. and asks if "she looked like this, worm? She felt like this. Let the X-Men come for us, worm. We are ready."?

Well, the X-Men come, bringing Storm, Emma, Kurt, Logan, and Scott, while Beast works the Sage/Tessa position (on the horn). And in fact, they have the SFPD on their side, sealing up all the exits.

After they start pwning the Hellfire Cult in about two seconds, Empath realizes he's got to flee, and the Red Queen, still looking like Emma, leaves him to Logan's mercies without being detected.

Empath uses his powers to cripple Logan with... fear? I think? He's apparently stronger, and Nightcrawler tries to follow, but meets with the same fate, and confirms, Manny is stronger.

Wait, if he was stronger, why didn't he just make Kurt and Logan start having sex for three days like he did to Sharon Friedlander and Tom Corsi years ago? Hmm...

Well, before Cyclops can do anything about it, Empath escapes down his super-duper secret path, into a tunnel that isn't on any of the city maps Beast is using for reference. And before Dr. McCoy can warn the SFPD so they can prepare for this new escape route, Empath bursts out onto the street on a motorcycle to make his getaway...

Meanwhile (enough with the meanwhiles!) Pixie's talking to a grody, dreadlocked dude she knows in Oakland, and tells him, no, thank you very much, I don't want to go with you with Berkeley. I want to borrow your bike, and head home to the X-peeps. Because I made a mistake. And thus, our issue ends with Pixie riding a Vespa, with helmet and goggles, heading back to San Fran.

Nevermind why a chick who can teleport had to hitch a ride with Logan, and then scam a scooter for the trip back. Bah, that would be thinking.

Thoughts:

Like I said, Empath being "more powerful"? Maybe in the Hellfire Cult's numbers, but the hoodoo he pulls on Kurt & Logan is a step back from his worst stuff, in my mind.

Pixie using mundane transportation? A bit unnecessary, but it telegraphs the inevitable high speed motorcycle chase she'll have with Empath on the Vespa next issue.

Sexually charged art with megaboobs that's only appropriate in the S&M scene? The Hellions looking anything like the Hellions?

But, you have the pros of the fake torture scene, Kurt & Logan making a dude pee his pants, Emma's thoughts on religion, Karma having fun screwing with a dude, and Dazzler trying to turn her shows into a big drug trip, while Beast calls in favors. This issue wasn't great, but it's better than Uncanny has been in a few months. 7/10.

[Cayman]

Anti-Karma masks? How convenient.

[worstblogever]

Anti-Karma masks? How convenient.

And they double as high gimp fashion, to boot.

[claimtosubclaim]

He brought Megan both caffeine *and* Dazzler? Aw, Hank is such a caring doctor.

[Novaya Havoc]

Dazzler is a helluva drug.

[darknessatnoon]

I wonder if "Mr. Xiong" is an alias for The Examiner?

[worstblogever]

Dazzler is a helluva drug.

Amen to that.

I wonder if "Mr. Xiong" is an alias for The Examiner?

Keep on dreaming. Storm would've said something about that.

[AcesX1X]

LOL

Dazzler as....

DivaSparkles Drug Lord??

[protogarrett]

Tripping out your audience and making them hallucinate?
I smell a lawsuit.

[darknessatnoon]

Amen to that.



Keep on dreaming. Storm would've said something about that.

Storm has never met The Examiner. Only Rogue and Gambit have, and Cyclops has not seen fit to invite them into the X-Men.

[eurazn]

Tripping out your audience and making them hallucinate?
I smell a lawsuit.

Funny, I was smelling a good time and money well spent ...

[Agent_Torpor]

Dazzler is a helluva drug.

So is the Jonas Brothers.

[Petes Pants]

"Hey. I'm Ali. Hey." (Is this the new Hey girl! Hey!)

"Won't that just be, like, completely awesome?"

And to think I liked Matt Fraction before this.

[Agent_Torpor]

"Hey. I'm Ali. Hey." (Is this the new Hey girl! Hey!)

"Won't that just be, like, completely awesome?"

And to think I liked Matt Fraction before this.

Same here. Good lord, this is what happens when you're spread across every damn Marvel title out there.

[mikeb]

What is with the Bullit rippoff?:frown: The green 1968 Mustang, driving threw the streets of San Fran?Logan maybe many things, but he's no Steve McQueen!:cool:

[Novaya Havoc]

"Hey. I'm Ali. Hey." (Is this the new Hey girl! Hey!)


It is meant to be read as:

"HaaaAAaayy!!! I'm Ali! Haaayyyyy!!!"

[claimtosubclaim]

All this S&M dominatrix stuff is unsettling, and makes me wonder if Fracbaker are trying to out weirdsex Warren Ellis. Can't wait until this is over and we get to the Terry Dodson art, Angel/Beast assembling the Fringe Science team, and more of Nightcrawler and Colossus. Some Iceman/Cannonball/Husk cameos would be nice too.

[AcesX1X]

[SIZE="5"]The Red Queen, in her full dominatrix getup, has that worm (seriously, she calls him worm like six or seven times in this issue.) Empath, on all fours, and she wants him to tell her all about Emma Frost. To get him ready to talk, she even places her black leather (like it would be made of anything else) stiletto boot on his face.

I am suddenly very hot under the collar. somebody POST PICS, plz!!!!!

[darknessatnoon]

Keep on dreaming. Storm would've said something about that.

It has to be him.

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There is only one person with acupuncture powers.

[Agent_Torpor]

All this S&M dominatrix stuff is unsettling. Can't wait until this is over and we get to the Terry Dodson art, Angel/Beast assembling the Fringe Science team, and more of Nightcrawler and Colossus. Some Iceman/Cannonball/Husk cameos would be nice too.

Yeah, more morose Piotr moping about, pining for his lost Katya. Sign me up now!

[maigen]

Storm has never met The Examiner. Only Rogue and Gambit have, and Cyclops has not seen fit to invite them into the X-Men.

Can I get some of those happy needles?

[Agent_Torpor]

I am suddenly very hot under the collar. somebody POST PICS, plz!!!!!

Seriously. Did someone mention a stiletto boot to the groin area? BOING!

[claimtosubclaim]

Yeah, more morose Piotr moping about, pining for his lost Katya. Sign me up now!

Your sarcasm fails on account of Peter only having moped for like two panels since Kitty became a space bullet.

[Joe Franklin]

"Hey. I'm Ali. Hey." (Is this the new Hey girl! Hey!)

"Won't that just be, like, completely awesome?"

And to think I liked Matt Fraction before this.

Maybe Fraction was giving a nod to Claremont with this goofy line?:confused:

[worstblogever]

What is with the Bullit rippoff?:frown: The green 1968 Mustang, driving threw the streets of San Fran?Logan maybe many things, but he's no Steve McQueen!:cool:

NOBODY is Steve McQueen, though.

[darknessatnoon]

Your sarcasm fails on account of Peter only having moped for like two panels since Kitty became a space bullet.

It's always the same, though. Just substitute Kitty for Illyanna, or, before that, for "his farm in Siberia."

[claimtosubclaim]

I guess I just prefer love lamentations over fetish porn. Sue me!

[Agent_Torpor]

Your sarcasm fails on account of Peter only having moped for like two panels since Kitty became a space bullet.

Oh please. As noted above, Piotr is frequently moping about someone or something. Hell, Juggernaut beat his ass at a NYC bar & grill over it and this was back in the early 80s!!!

And i'm just waiting for the whole full-on Kitty sorrow. It's coming, oh, it's coming big time.

[maigen]

It's always the same, though. Just substitute Kitty for Illyanna, or, before that, for "his farm in Siberia."

Before that his consistently fleshy skin.

[claimtosubclaim]

Oh please. As noted above, Piotr is frequently moping about someone or something. Hell, Juggernaut beat his ass at a NYC bar & grill over it and this was back in the early 80s!!!

I guess I just prefer love lamentations over fetish porn. Sue me!

[Michael P]

What is with the Bullit rippoff?:frown: The green 1968 Mustang, driving threw the streets of San Fran?Logan maybe many things, but he's no Steve McQueen!:cool:

By federal law, all fiction set in San Francisco must mimic the chase scene from Bullit. Why do you think Maupin stopped writing Tales of the City?

[Beast]

Good issue for the most part. Even with the bizarre sex obsession kick the writers are on.

Loved the scene with Pixie, Beast, and Dazzler. Even if Dazzler's huge bust was a boggle. Dazzler goes back to blond and gets a breast enlargement? The whole thing about wanting to use Pixie to dust those attending her concerts with psychadelic drugs was a huge....errr moment though. Heh.

Scott torturing the guy for information was just.... a huge BWAH moment. He doesn't have the anti-telepathic Hellfire Cult helmet on anymore, why not just have Emma pop inside and scrounge up what they need. The torturing just seemed to be like what Marvel did with Tony Stark, trying to make Scott look bad ass. And much like there, they're really only making Scott look like a jerk. X-Force was shocking, but now we see that Scott's playing the George "Dubya" Bush Guantanamo Bay home game.

The whole Red Queen thing just continues to make me shake my head though. Corny.

Finally, loved Beast handling the coms from the base. "Ahoy-hoy." Hehe!!

[Agent_Torpor]

I guess I just prefer love lamentations over fetish porn. Sue me!

Hell, fetish porn is the only thing keeping me in Uncanny right now. :(

[darknessatnoon]

May I please have a Red Queen scan?

[lockerogue]

Yes may I also have a Red Queen scan. She needs the Dominatrix hat. That is what she is missing.

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[AnthonyJ]

Tripping out your audience and making them hallucinate?
I smell a lawsuit.

Funny, I was smelling a good time and money well spent ...

What makes you think these two ideas are incompatible? Actually, realistically there's a fair chance of criminal charges, but comic books are notable for ignoring issues of law; compared to the multiple felonies for beating someone up, dragging him to their secret underground lair, and torturing him for information, intoxicating the audience is nothing.

[worstblogever]

May I please have a Red Queen scan?

You've been delightful lately.

Absolutely.

And I'll throw in the Hellions sort-of flashback, and mega-bewbs Dazzler (even for Dazzler) for Novaya Havoc, while I'm at it.

[creaky]

Emma Frost, meanwhile, decides to gather up the strike team to take on the Hellfire Cult, and seeks out Nightcrawler. It seems Kurt's taken the initiative, and built a chapel inside Greymalkin Industries, without asking anyone. He just felt that it could provide members of the team with a place for comfort. (other than all the sex the team's supposedly been having, of course).

I don't know whether to breathe a sigh of relief or disappointment. I'll go with relief for now.

Wait, if he was stronger, why didn't he just make Kurt and Logan start having sex for three days like he did to Sharon Friedlander and Tom Corsi years ago? Hmm...

Yeah, WHY? Emma all but confirmed that they are doing each other off-panel last issue, anyway. Dammit, all those Scott/Emma bedroom scenes and I get nothing. *pouts*

[creaky]

Funny, I was smelling a good time and money well spent ...

No, that was me. Sorry.:frown:

[eurazn]

What makes you think these two ideas are incompatible? Actually, realistically there's a fair chance of criminal charges, but comic books are notable for ignoring issues of law; compared to the multiple felonies for beating someone up, dragging him to their secret underground lair, and torturing him for information, intoxicating the audience is nothing.

The only crime with respect to intoxicating the audience is if Dazzler doesn't charge extra for it. If the squares in SF raise a fuss, she should move to the Netherlands and have brownies sold during her show. There is so much merchandising potential. Even the Red Queen would stand to benefit from the move as her name already implies a stint at the Red Light District!

[Agent_Torpor]

Yes may I also have a Red Queen scan. She needs the Dominatrix hat. That is what she is missing.

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TRES CHIC!

[protogarrett]

I am still so curious to hear why Dazzler and Longshot are split up yet AGAIN. Seriously, the both of you just move on.

Dazzler, become like Cyndi Lauper to the gay community and just hook-up with a bunch of hot stage hands and the few straight back-up dancers.

Longshot, get a haircut and come out from hiding, as there are Skrulls taking up your persona. And I swear, if you lose your memory a third time (maybe fourth?), I'm going to slap you.

Oh, and Karma, get laid and become more useful otherwise don't bother coming back.

[Cayman]

I am still so curious to hear why Dazzler and Longshot are split up yet AGAIN. Seriously, the both of you just move on.


She probably realized he was Longshot.

[Christopher O]

She probably realized he was Longshot.
How horrible for her.

[worstblogever]

I am still so curious to hear why Dazzler and Longshot are split up yet AGAIN. Seriously, the both of you just move on.

Dazzler, become like Cyndi Lauper to the gay community and just hook-up with a bunch of hot stage hands and the few straight back-up dancers.

Longshot, get a haircut and come out from hiding, as there are Skrulls taking up your persona. And I swear, if you lose your memory a third time (maybe fourth?), I'm going to slap you.

Oh, and Karma, get laid and become more useful otherwise don't bother coming back.

Longshot has something to say about it in X-Factor #35

[lockerogue]

May I also have a glorious Karma scan. The one with her laughing.

[worstblogever]

May I also have a glorious Karma scan. The one with her laughing.

I'd say yes, but four scans is really is my safe limit. If we do any more, it gets to the point where between the preview, and this, we're showing over half the issue for free.

And then Marvel's lawyers call. You're going to have to wait until you get your hands on the issue, I'm afraid.

[Novaya Havoc]

Longshot has something to say about it in X-Factor #35

Explain this.

[worstblogever]

Explain this.

Christ, do I have to go write the X-Factor #35 thread, too? :frown:

I'm PMing you your answer.

[lockerogue]

I'd say yes, but four scans is really is my safe limit. If we do any more, it gets to the point where between the preview, and this, we're showing over half the issue for free.

And then Marvel's lawyers call. You're going to have to wait until you get your hands on the issue, I'm afraid.

Dammit okay. I hate that the nearest comic shop is an hour away.

[XaviersMisprint]

good issue, i think! i loved it. one thing that bothered me is that while empath was saying "she was cold, heartless etc", emma'[s wearing this huge, non-forced smile it looks like she's havign a great time laughing with her class and looks like a nice lady.... in dominatrix gear.

some proportions are off and some body parts are anatomically incorrect... like beast's shoulders in some panels, most female hips and boobs, certain legs at certain angles, etc.

i liked the page right before they crashed the hellfire cult's base, where they're on the roof. beautiful page. and the first page of thc battle, storm looks great! no porn face... i really like that pose/face, its original for Land. i really, really do think he's actually drawing a lot of his stuff now instead of tracing it all. some pages, you can tell the difference.

[Novaya Havoc]

Christ, do I have to go write the X-Factor #35 thread, too? :frown:

I'm PMing you your answer.

PAD must be purified in the fires of righteousness for that heresy he committed.

[Beast]

PAD must be purified in the fires of righteousness for that heresy he committed.
Lemme guess... Longshot left Dazzler?

[worstblogever]

PAD must be purified in the fires of righteousness for that heresy he committed.

You may discuss it as I begin the X-Factor #35 thread.

Be wary, however, PAD has been known to appear to discuss his craft on this forum, after all.

[DeniseXfrost]

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.....Now only a fist could satisfy Scott. Emma knows best.

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Where are Empath's legs?

Damn Emma's breats are wild.

[eurazn]

PAD must be purified in the fires of righteousness for that heresy he committed.

Lemme guess... Longshot left Dazzler?

I am beyond offended! I hope Bru has Dazzler discuss her own reasons and point of view for the break-up on-panel, or hope PAD later shows Longshot's perception of the situation was way off.

[RickyD410]

You may discuss it as I begin the X-Factor #35 thread.

Eeep. Sorry! I didnt know you were going for that one as well.

Anyhoo, I also dont understand why theyre making a few continuity glitches.

A). Elixir should have healed Pixie all up by now.
B). Pixie should have teleported to Oakland and then teleported back home.
C). Emma could have simply interogated the Hellfire Cult dude. Although the acupuncture scene was pretty cool, and I'm glad Karma got to be used.
D). Why does Pixie live in Oakland? She's around 16 now (tops). She should be living either at Greymalkin Industries, or at least with a X-Man who is old enough to give her a home and food and stuff.

And on a side note, I really like how the authorities work WITH the X-Men. Its a very nice change. I like how the police are friendly with the X-Men and they can work together. The whole "authorities hate super heroes" can get pretty old, so its nice to see a change.

[ExodusCloak]

This should be like a MAX title seriously...X-Force with all its blood and gore is like G-rated compared to those 3 scans.

Issue sounds amazing though.

[worstblogever]

Eeep. Sorry! I didnt know you were going for that one as well.

Anyhoo, I also dont understand why theyre making a few continuity glitches.

A). Elixir should have healed Pixie all up by now.
B). Pixie should have teleported to Oakland and then teleported back home.
C). Emma could have simply interogated the Hellfire Cult dude. Although the acupuncture scene was pretty cool, and I'm glad Karma got to be used.
D). Why does Pixie live in Oakland? She's around 16 now (tops). She should be living either at Greymalkin Industries, or at least with a X-Man who is old enough to give her a home and food and stuff.

And on a side note, I really like how the authorities work WITH the X-Men. Its a very nice change. I like how the police are friendly with the X-Men and they can work together. The whole "authorities hate super heroes" can get pretty old, so its nice to see a change.

A) Elixir is not the X-Men's first aid kit, though. He's still in Colorado, at Angel's Aerie, and I don't think they'd fly him in because Pixie is bruised. She'll heal on her own, given time.
B) Correct on Pixie's teleporting being not used.
C) Emma would've been much simpler, but they wanted Scott to look all big & bad. I can't say why they went this route, but whatever.
D) There are a lot of age-dependent things that get overlooked in the history of the X-Men. See Kitty Pryde & Piotr Rasputin for more details.

[Cayman]

Elixir should die. He's too handy to have around.

[XaviersMisprint]

This should be like a MAX title seriously...X-Force with all its blood and gore is like G-rated compared to those 3 scans.

Issue sounds amazing though.

it kinda WAS! go read it! i am so loving UXM right now, not kidding.


lots of crazy stuff going on. for an unoriginal penciler (or whatever!), the writing and concepts are very unique and fresh. just goes to show that they haven't run out of ideas completely! makes me very hopeful.

[DeniseXfrost]

The red queen is definitely Maddie. She's somehow back and wondering who's fisting Cyclops.

[ExodusCloak]

The red queen is definitely Maddie. She's somehow back and wondering who's fisting Cyclops.

She must have amnesia because she's actually met Emma Frost before.

[XaviersMisprint]

A) Elixir is not the X-Men's first aid kit, though. He's still in Colorado, at Angel's Aerie, and I don't think they'd fly him in because Pixie is bruised. She'll heal on her own, given time.
B) Correct on Pixie's teleporting being not used.
C) Emma would've been much simpler, but they wanted Scott to look all big & bad. I can't say why they went this route, but whatever.
D) There are a lot of age-dependent things that get overlooked in the history of the X-Men. See Kitty Pryde & Piotr Rasputin for more details.




haahahaha SO true on the last part. she was 13, he was 20 i believe... thats weird. it just is! i like pixie, and i didn't notice boobs in this issue. actually, i was looking for them so i could go "ugh... boooobs! >:o" but her arms were crossed, there was something in front of her, or she was facing the other way in almost all her body-panels. so we just don't know if she's ''flat'' or ''all that.''

and i took it as emma was listening in on the scene, not looking cuz she'd be seen. i'm sure she's playing dumb to try and figure out the situation for herself. she doesn't want to intrude cyclop's mind and she could oppose to him acting different. someone like karma doesn't know cyclops well enough to question him or to even recognize him acting out of character, whereas emma would be opposed to such a drastic change in character and ethic. i feel like she was playing "naive bimbo" when he came out, which is why she was flexing and just down for whatever he said. karma doesn't know what's up... emma's onto scott, scott is getting careless.

[DeniseXfrost]

She must have amnesia because she's actually met Emma Frost before.
She wouldn't recall it seeing how Emma is now ten years youger :biggrin:

[DeniseXfrost]

and i took it as emma was listening in on the scene, not looking cuz she'd be seen. i'm sure she's playing dumb to try and figure out the situation for herself. she doesn't want to intrude cyclop's mind and she could oppose to him acting different. someone like karma doesn't know cyclops well enough to question him or to even recognize him acting out of character, whereas emma would be opposed to such a drastic change in character and ethic. i feel like she was playing "naive bimbo" when he came out, which is why she was flexing and just down for whatever he said. karma doesn't know what's up... emma's onto scott, scott is getting careless.
Evil illuminaughties.

[Agent_Torpor]

Final analysis? THUMBS UP on the issue, if only for the panel with the high-heeled boot to the face. No weenie flat-heeled boots (Wonder Woman) here.

And yes, I am a sick puppy.

[Pro]

The red queen is definitely Maddie. She's somehow back and wondering who's fisting Cyclops.

Shapechanging to a blonde?

The Red Queen, hearing this, pulls off her gimp mask, and changes her appearance somehow to look just like Emma Frost. and asks if "she looked like this, worm? She felt like this. Let the X-Men come for us, worm. We are ready."?

I'm telling you, miss sinister is Essex with a fair portion of Maddy DNA mixed into it.

[worstblogever]

She wouldn't recall it seeing how Emma is now ten years youger :biggrin:

Wait, when did Maddie meet Emma?

If it was prior to Inferno, she actually did come back amnesiac when she was resurrected by Nate Grey.

And feasibly, if Maddie's been resurrected again, she could have lost her memories a second time, right?



Or, it's a whole new redhead. Or not. I dunno.

[ExodusCloak]

She wouldn't recall it seeing how Emma is now ten years youger :biggrin:

Well she was wearing these clothes...so maybe Maddie wouldn't recognize her.

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xman05003ry8.jpg

[DeniseXfrost]

Shapechanging to a blonde?

or it's just telepathy?

[XaviersMisprint]

my thought s are that it isn a new redhead. i think the point of the x-books lately is to use as many of the characters they already have as possible without bringing in new characters (uhhh.... ink and graymalkin never even happened....). they're upping empath to major villain ranks, re-using old concepts in new ways instead of making completely new things and failing only to recycle this process over and over.

the redhead is someone we know. just like the "goddess: in the divided we stand arc was martinique jason instead of a new person. they're all about old=new these days it seems. it would almost be... pointless to have anew redhead jump in when it could easily be a way to bring back maddie.

[ExodusCloak]

Wait, when did Maddie meet Emma?

If it was prior to Inferno, she actually did come back amnesiac when she was resurrected by Nate Grey.

And feasibly, if Maddie's been resurrected again, she could have lost her memories a second time, right?



Or, it's a whole new redhead. Or not. I dunno.

It was only for a few moments but Emma knew who she was.

X-Man #50

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/6564/xman05038nv4.th.jpg (http://img382.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xman05038nv4.jpg)

[darknessatnoon]

Well she was wearing these clothes...so maybe Maddie wouldn't recognize her.

http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xman05003ry8.jpg

Emma beat Nate Grey? Beautiful. This is precedent people.

[cgar]

this issue was very good. hoping to see more of the xmen pop up instead of the Astonishing crew. it was cool seeing Dazzler and Karma though

[HopeLantern]

Wow... lots of sexual themes in this issue. It must have been a while for the artist I guess...

[frog]

It doesn't seem right to pass judgement on this before I receive the issue but . . .

What with Land's anti-art, the idea of Pixie supplying hallucenogens for Dazzler's audience, 80's speak and more of Emma's spending habits I'm become more disenchanted with Uncanny with each issue that's come out since 500.

[The Black Guardian]

What is with the Bullit rippoff?:frown: The green 1968 Mustang, driving threw the streets of San Fran?Logan maybe many things, but he's no Steve McQueen!:cool:
Meh. Logan is more Steve McQueen than Steve McQueen.

Anyway, this issue was ten kinds of disgusting wrapped in one. Make it stop, please!

[ExodusCloak]

Emma beat Nate Grey? Beautiful. This is precedent people.

She hurt him and had him in a illusion loop until Ems newest student Gaia intervened and they teamed up once he learned that she wasn't helping Dark Beast.
In Nates defence he didn't realize he had his telepathy back even though he just subconciously used it in the previous issue to locate Emma after she mind raped him across the Atlantic Ocean from her office while discussing stuff with Adrienne.

[darknessatnoon]

She hurt him and had him in a illusion loop until Gaia intervened and they teamed up once he learned that she wasn't helping Dark Beast.

It seems like she basically won. I will remember this for the next time that fans complain when Emma Frost gives Exodus or Xavier a beat-down.

[lockerogue]

It seems like she basically won. I will remember this for the next time that fans complain when Emma Frost gives Exodus or Xavier a beat-down.

She had Sage wifi for those. For this fight against Nate she had super Sage dial up.

[Leirus]

Great review !!


I am still in two minds about Uncanny...

I do not like the continuous slipping of the Moral line... now they are torturating people? Just like that? With two telepaths in the next room? Would be wrong Nightcrawler if he found out and wasnt pleased with this?

I love how all the Hellions look really interested in the classroom while the girls are booored. Even if the Hellions are just a bunch of traced faces with different expressions...

The art is still a issue... it looks too static and the women... lets just say that, when the red queen unmasked, I thought "Ohh... She is like Emma Frost... er... or maybe Dazzler? Husk? Pamela Anderson? andy blonde woman by Land?"

And there is still an air of over-semi-forced coolness... It is being difficult to me to adapt to this. But there is a lot to like in the issue, so I will keep trying

[Seikun21]

From the Matt Fraction X-Position from a few weeks ago
1) Will Hellion be seen in your book anytime soon?

Yes. Maybe in just a panel in #502, but yes.

Did Julian actually show up or was Fraction just referring to that panel of the porno Hellions?

[worstblogever]

From the Matt Fraction X-Position from a few weeks ago


Did Julian actually show up or was Fraction just referring to that panel of the porno Hellions?

I went though it again, and found no Hellion.

Although, I found one panel with Angel when they were on the rooftop posing.

But no Julian Keller, no.

[frog]

So just why did Pixie run off now? It doesn't make much sense to me. She was missing the others so much when she had returned to Scotland, and this isn't the first time she's been seriously hurt.

[DeniseXfrost]

He confused Hellions with Hellion.

[Seikun21]

I went though it again, and found no Hellion.

Although, I found one panel with Angel when they were on the rooftop posing.

But no Julian Keller, no.

Dang. Well that's disappointing. Though of course Julian could be part of the Hellfire Cult like Empath, and between his somewhat bland appearance and Land's art, it could be hard to identify him.

So just why did Pixie run off now? It doesn't make much sense to me. She was missing the others so much when she had returned to Scotland, and this isn't the first time she's been seriously hurt.

Megan is from Wales. And you're right this doesn't seem mesh with the Free Comic Book Day story very well.

[darknessatnoon]

He confused Hellions with Hellion.

That's the first sensible thing he's done.

[frog]

Megan is from Wales. And you're right this doesn't seem mesh with the Free Comic Book Day story very well.

Whoops. Don't know why I was thinking Scotland.

Yes, it seems like really odd timing to me. I don't think she's been unaware until this point that it's not easy to be a mutant.

[just another user]

I liked how Land drew the hellions so that I couldn't identify a single one of them.

It has to be him.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/darknessatnoon/examiner1-1.jpg

There is only one person with acupuncture powers.

Seconded.

Good issue for the most part. Even with the bizarre sex obsession kick the writers are on.

The sex seemed pretty vanilla to me. It's not like some blue cat making out with a green haired alien, or Anole sunning himself on Rockslide.

[ThreeDays]

This should be like a MAX title seriously...X-Force with all its blood and gore is like G-rated compared to those 3 scans.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. I hope so.

The western idea (okay, it's pretty much just the U.S.) that it's more okay to desensitize young people to extreme violence of the most gory or torturous nature than it is to do the same with sex is baffling. Our culture has some screwed up priorities.


Anyway, I'm not sure what to think of this issue. The Dazzler thing was something of a "wtf" moment, but it was a sweet gesture. There's plenty of other issues related to logic at work here (Pixie's travel arrangements, the torture scene), but at least it's an improvement over the last few issues, and it seems like things are going somewhere.

[DeniseXfrost]

Just read it. The art is horrible as usual. I haven't lost my interest with the red queen yet and I seem to like Pixie now. Once scene is really bugging me when both Wolverine and Nightcrawler both claimed Empath was getting stronger. That's just seem forced. Finally, Wolverine enough with the "girly-girl" already.

[LawGiver]

I don't see a problem with Pixie not teleporting to the hippies and then teleporting back. She just got her ass kicked for being different, I would think after such a vicious beating she would want to feel a little "normal", human, for a while, thus the ride with Logan and the scooter ride back.

I liked this issue, but then I've liked almost everything since Brubaker has taken over and everything Fraction has written seems to be like singing sweet nothings into my ears. The plot is pretty interesting, I think the Red Queen is an interesting character, she really seems to have a deep hatred of Emma Frost, I wonder where that stems from. I look forward to seeing the conclusion of the arc.

As for the art, I really don't mind Land's art, the porn poses and model strikes don't phase me, I really don't care, it's pretty, it flows well during battle scenes, could care less really. I'm entertained, that's all I care about.

[justinkos91]

Emma Frost doesn't look like Emma Frost now :frown:

http://www.just-marvel-x-men.com/image-files/astonishing-x-men-emma-frost-5-50k.jpg
http://www.zaldivacomics.com/images/comics/nov15_06/astonishingx-men_18%20(Large).jpg

I'm too used to Emma's astonishing look, with the medium haircut resembling a bob-cut, only a bit longer. She looks so porn-starrish now. Before, I saw her as a high-class whore with an attitude problem, though somewhat respectable, but now, just a hero who looks like a porn-star who smiles too much; not used to Emma being so happy and smiling so much, it creeps me out... not used to seeing an over-perky Emma...

[Omega Alpha]

I liked this issue, even if nothing too spetacular. And...yeah, not that much too comment.

[lockerogue]

You know in some issues Cassaday's Emma came off very manish in the face. Like really manish.

[sneggz]

Ahoy-Hoy team.... LOL C.Montgomery McCoy. And what was up with Logan Calling Meggan girly-girl?

I just gotta say meh, dialogue sounds way off.

[Michael P]

I'm too used to Emma's astonishing look, with the medium haircut resembling a bob-cut, only a bit longer. She looks so porn-starrish now. Before, I saw her as a high-class whore with an attitude problem, though somewhat respectable, but now, just a hero who looks like a porn-star who smiles too much; not used to Emma being so happy and smiling so much, it creeps me out... not used to seeing an over-perky Emma...

Yeah, welcome to the "art" of Greg Land.

[frog]

Emma Frost doesn't look like Emma Frost now :frown:

I'm too used to Emma's astonishing look, with the medium haircut resembling a bob-cut, only a bit longer. She looks so porn-starrish now. Before, I saw her as a high-class whore with an attitude problem, though somewhat respectable, but now, just a hero who looks like a porn-star who smiles too much; not used to Emma being so happy and smiling so much, it creeps me out... not used to seeing an over-perky Emma...

Yeah, welcome to the "art" of Greg Land.

It's depressing to have all the women look like this. There is a vast array of differing facial features such as the shape of chin, forehead and eyes, the arch of eyebrows, and the depth of cheekbones that makes each face individual. It's as if only one version of female attractiveness exists in this comic now and the only thing that changes is hair color and length..

[worstblogever]

It's depressing to have all the women look like this. There is a vast array of differing facial features such as the shape of chin, forehead and eyes, the arch of eyebrows, and the depth of cheekbones that makes each face individual. It's as if only one version of female attractiveness exists in this comic now and the only thing that changes is hair color and length..

Case in point: this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/39/CatseyeNM.JPG/160px-CatseyeNM.JPG

is traditional Catseye.

This is Land's Catseye in the bottom left corner:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/UXM502-3.jpg

She went from looking exotic and iconic, to just like all the other Hellion girls, Pixie, and Nevee Campbell. And that's just sad.

[metalgorgomon]

Great review, WBE.

I agree with your thoughts on the issue.

Loved the Logan-Nightcrawler scenes. And the Storm's caption: "Kenyan Weather Goddes. Bare-knuckle streetfighter". So, Storm's one of the core members now. She kinda just being wallpaper in this issue though..

I don't think the art is bad, everybody looked good.. but it's just doesn't do the storytelling really well. Some of the scenes looked too stiff and posey, IMO.

[frog]

Case in point: this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/39/CatseyeNM.JPG/160px-CatseyeNM.JPG

is traditional Catseye.

This is Land's Catseye in the bottom left corner:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/UXM502-3.jpg

She went from looking exotic and iconic, to just like all the other Hellion girls. And that's just sad.

Oh god, that's Catseye's first (and probably only) reappearance in years?!?

I thought I was depressed before. Somebody pass the Prozac.

[worstblogever]

Oh god, that's Catseye's first (and probably only) reappearance in years?!?

I thought I was depressed before. Somebody pass the Prozac.

Well, Roulette's the blonde in the back, and the bubblegum girl would be Tarot, right? The hair at least seems closer to Tarot than Catseye:

http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/8/8d/Tarot_hellions4.jpg

[frog]

Well, Roulette's the blonde in the back, and the bubblegum girl would be Tarot, right? The hair at least seems closer to Tarot than Catseye:

http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/8/8d/Tarot_hellions4.jpg

I'm going to cry now.

[worstblogever]

I'm going to cry now.

The real "flip a coin" is James Proudstar, Empath, or Jetstream.

I think that bottom picture has Jetstream in the front right, for his darker tones, and in the back row, Empath is on the right with the brown hair, and Proudstar to his left without.

But honestly, they're somewhat interchangable.

Perhaps a better reference for all the Hellions, and a Catseye with purple hair closer to Land's?

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/4/45/Hellions_early_version.jpg

But still far from the Hellions' glory days.

[cgar]

quick question: If Empath was a Hellion how come he didnt down with the rest of them? Or did they even all die at the same time? I know nothing about this team.

[Novaya Havoc]

I enjoyed this issue far more than 501. Wasn't hard to do.

Overall it was solid. Shows promise. But I've been saying that since we first heard about the SF scenery was announced, but it just isn't seeming to go anywhere. And I generally like Brubaker (maybe it's Fraction I'm not liking as much?) so I don't know why I'm not digging the new direction because it has everything I should want:

TOTALLY FABULOUS Dazzler. San Francisco. Socio-political set-ups.

That said:

I see the promise. I see the forward momentum. But I don't quite see where it's going to go. I don't feel particularly introduced to the San Francisco concept yet post-500. The base, the mission -- what they're doing. And the plot threads feel incredibly disjointed so far:

We go from a telepathic summon from Emma/Scott calling mutants and former mutants to the SF Sanctuary. But aside from Karma and Dazzler, I don't see any mutants popping up.

In 500, we see "Trask" going into the club where Dazzler was performing, but that hasn't seen any follow-through yet.

Cyclops says the X-Men have a new militia role. Beast and Angel seem to think they're more of a philanthropic sub-culture with a dedicated "safe space." I'm just not seeing the follow through happen quickly enough to set the parameters to make things like the Hellfire Cult effective.

And there's more.

But I am interested to get more behind the "Red Queen" and what's going on. I suspect she's going to try and "replace" Frost next issue? Infiltrate the ranks? But I'm not sure.

Perfectly fine read! But I may have to just start reading it in trade because the singles aren't quite clicking for me yet. I'll keep on with Uncanny through the next year in monthlies, but I just don't feel connected.

ART:

DAZZLER IS LOVELY. LOVELY! This is all I need to know. I never had a big problem with Land, because the poses are pretty and it's clear.

BUT. He isn't great with emoting scenes properly and that was standing out for me this issue. When Pixie was in the car with Wolverine ("AIAIiiIiiIIEeEE!!") she looked like she was enjoying herself, when the scene read like she wasn't supposed to be.

And Storm looked a damn tranny mess in her one panel!

But what bugged me most about Land this issue were power signatures. Karma's and Empath's were muy confusing to me. Art? Or maybe just the colorist?

Overall I'd give it a B. Solid and with promise, but it needs to pick up the pace and really "identify" the new direction!

[ThreeDays]

quick question: If Empath was a Hellion how come he didnt down with the rest of them? Or did they even all die at the same time? I know nothing about this team.

Empath was with Magma in Nova Roma at the time (his presence in Uncanny X-Men #281, where all the other Hellions are slaughtered or captured for slaughter in the next issue, was an error).

But I am interested to get more behind the "Red Queen" and what's going on.

I doubt you're the only one who wants to get behind the Red Queen.

[Novaya Havoc]

I doubt you're the only one who wants to get behind the Red Queen.

LOL! Freudian slip!

More information behind. Err... about. Ugh. My prepositions fail. I admit defeat.

[RickyD410]

Can I ask what exactly Empath's powers are? I thought he could control people's emotions? How did he hurt Wolverine and Nightcrawler?

[frog]

Can I ask what exactly Empath's powers are? I thought he could control people's emotions? How did he hurt Wolverine and Nightcrawler?

He made them emo.





Wait, they already are emo.

[lockerogue]

He made them emo.





Wait, they already are emo.

He made them super EMO.

[Agent_Torpor]

Emma Frost doesn't look like Emma Frost now :frown:

http://www.just-marvel-x-men.com/image-files/astonishing-x-men-emma-frost-5-50k.jpg
http://www.zaldivacomics.com/images/comics/nov15_06/astonishingx-men_18%20(Large).jpg

I'm too used to Emma's astonishing look, with the medium haircut resembling a bob-cut, only a bit longer. She looks so porn-starrish now. Before, I saw her as a high-class whore with an attitude problem, though somewhat respectable, but now, just a hero who looks like a porn-star who smiles too much; not used to Emma being so happy and smiling so much, it creeps me out... not used to seeing an over-perky Emma...

ugh, i never used cassaday as the emma standard. Always QUITELY!

[DeniseXfrost]

Cassaday got Emma right. Sexy matured woman. Although justinkos91 failed by using the first pic.

[Agent_Torpor]

Cassaday got Emma right. Sexy matured women. Although justinkos91 failed by using the first pic.

Where is written that Emma is "mature" (read: ready for the glue factory and/or botox)?

And yeah, that top pic, probably not the best representation of miss frost. ever. The silver lipstick is just bad all around.

Looking back, probably John Byrne had her right.

[DeniseXfrost]

Where is written that Emma is "mature" (read: ready for the glue factory and/or botox)?

On your forehead.

[metalgorgomon]

I think Emma should have the Dodson's #505 cover haircut.

[Slung]

Since when do Empath and Karma have full on telepathic abilities?

I thought they were interesting because they had unique powers. Karma could possess others and Empath could manipulate their emotions. I know Karma has been expanding her telepathy, but it seems better when its specialized. And I don't remember Empath EVER being able to read minds (least of all when he was a Hellion).

I want to like this book, but the "girly-girl" and the "worm" lines are up there with "cuz" at this point and Dazzler did not seem anything like Dazzler. And I would love to read a book without Emma and Scott making out once.

And someone needs to rework everyone's power signatures. I miss the "gears" signature Karma often sports and Dazzler's colorful diamonds are lame.

[pariah-1972]

This issue wasn't great, but it's better than Uncanny has been in a few months. 7/10.[/QUOTE]Wow great review and i actually like this one (maybe cause i'm off my meds and less cynical ):tongue:

1. :Wow. Is Pixie like the Make-A-Wish kid dying of cancer of the X-team, or what? Ilyana Rasputin was dying of the Legacy Virus, and she never got treatment like this.
I'm sure if Illyana asked to see miss holyness the Dazzler she would have complied if she could.
2. i'm glad to see the reference to when Beast and Dazzler were friends it felt nice and it was good to see that one of those writers has actually read an X-book before.
3.Dazzler wants Pixie to get all healed up, and then she wants her to come dance for her in her shows, and let her hallucinogenic dust make the shows even trippier. Like a Pink Floyd Laser Light show times a billion kinds of awesome.. Not sure how i feel about Dazzler asking a young slightly still naive girl to be use her powers to make people in the audience high?
i mean first off what if the people don't wanna get high or if something happens to them while getting high who would be responsible ? would they throw an innocent girl in jail because she was coerced bye her idol?
Unfortunately none of those issues came to light since Pixie snuck out (which i'm not sure if is realistic or even in character)


4. could drain psychic toxins from his patients prior to M-Day. What exactly are Psychic toxins"anyway ?
5 Karma's a bit of a mind reader [/B...]When has she ever been able to read minds?
6Why didn't he just use Emma to poke around in his head? what it seriously be so wrong to give her something to do?

.
7.i dont consider putting an enemy in straps on a nurses table "bondage" unless he's into that sort of thing i think this falls more under the heading of "torture"
8[B].Nevermind why a chick who can teleport had to hitch a ride with Logan, and then scam a scooter for the trip back. Bah, that would be thinking.Maybe we can reasonably assume that her head hurts too much or is in too much pain to teleport maybe?

9.Sexually charged art with megaboobsit's Greg Lands forte just like Kirby was with his dots and" kirby tech" or Ellis with his obsession with nano- tech


Also thought Greg Lands art has gotten a little bit better.

[Leirus]

This issue wasn't great, but it's better than Uncanny has been in a few months. 7/10 Wow great review and i actually like this one (maybe cause i'm off my meds and less cynical ):tongue:

1. :Wow. Is Pixie like the Make-A-Wish kid dying of cancer of the X-team, or what? Ilyana Rasputin was dying of the Legacy Virus, and she never got treatment like this.
I'm sure if Illyana asked to see miss holyness the Dazzler she would have complied if she could.
2. i'm glad to see the reference to when Beast and Dazzler were friends it felt nice and it was good to see that one of those writers has actually read an X-book before.
3.Dazzler wants Pixie to get all healed up, and then she wants her to come dance for her in her shows, and let her hallucinogenic dust make the shows even trippier. Like a Pink Floyd Laser Light show times a billion kinds of awesome.. Not sure how i feel about Dazzler asking a young slightly still naive girl to be use her powers to make people in the audience high?
i mean first off what if the people don't wanna get high or if something happens to them while getting high who would be responsible ? would they throw an innocent girl in jail because she was coerced bye her idol?
Unfortunately none of those issues came to light since Pixie snuck out (which i'm not sure if is realistic or even in character)


4. could drain psychic toxins from his patients prior to M-Day. What exactly are Psychic toxins"anyway ?
5 Karma's a bit of a mind reader [/B...]When has she ever been able to read minds?
6Why didn't he just use Emma to poke around in his head? what it seriously be so wrong to give her something to do?

.
7.i dont consider putting an enemy in straps on a nurses table "bondage" unless he's into that sort of thing i think this falls more under the heading of "torture"
8[B].Nevermind why a chick who can teleport had to hitch a ride with Logan, and then scam a scooter for the trip back. Bah, that would be thinking.Maybe we can reasonably assume that her head hurts too much or is in too much pain to teleport maybe?

9.Sexually charged art with megaboobsit's Greg Lands forte just like Kirby was with his dots and" kirby tech" or Ellis with his obsession with nano- tech


Also thought Greg Lands art has gotten a little bit better.


Wow, that was confusing to read...

Karma has been ocasionally able to read minds, for example in the mini "New Mutants : Truth or death"...

[Mitsaso]

I'm loving the new direction! Dazzler, San Fran, perkyness and no-angst, gratituous bondage scenes, it's all good and awesome!!

I even love Land's art, although he overdid it this time with copy-pasting the very same panel twice in three pages' time:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q206/mitsaso/clopypaste.jpg

Ooooh, by the way.... was I the only one who was given the impression that the Red Queen is a figment of Empath's imagination? She was TOO SURE this issue that the X-Men wouldn't find her... and she could be explained as a result of Empath's fixation on Emma Frost, the way she just turned into her et all....

http://www.just-marvel-x-men.com/image-files/astonishing-x-men-emma-frost-5-50k.jpg

...she looks just like Barbra Streisand here! :tongue:

[Affinity]

Fun issue, I liked it a lot.

[timbox]

I'm enjoying the story line but I still do not approve of this version of Pixie, she was better written by Yost.

My tip to help enjoy Uncanny: Before reading the issue, go through each page with a black magic marker (or crayon) and fill in all the faces so you can't see their cheesy expressions. You'll also have to tear the diamond form Emma panel out of the issue.

[worstblogever]

I'm loving the new direction! Dazzler, San Fran, perkyness and no-angst, gratituous bondage scenes, it's all good and awesome!!

I even love Land's art, although he overdid it this time with copy-pasting the very same panel twice in three pages' time:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q206/mitsaso/clopypaste.jpg

Ooooh, by the way.... was I the only one who was given the impression that the Red Queen is a figment of Empath's imagination? She was TOO SURE this issue that the X-Men wouldn't find her... and she could be explained as a result of Empath's fixation on Emma Frost, the way she just turned into her et all....


Hmm... now that you mention it, the Hellfire Cult does look a lot like the movie Fight Club in their HQ, and Empath would be its Tyler Durden. Interesting observation, Mitsaso.

Wasn't there something once revealed about how Empath's powers are cyclical? Like, he's empathetic towards a situation, and can amplify what's already there? I thought something like that was written during some of his more sympathetic times with Magma, I could be wrong. Maybe he's dominated some woman into being his dominatrix, rather than the other way around?

While it would explain the shapeshifting right out... it wouldn't explain the telekinesis she's used unless Empath actually just tied himself up.

[timbox]

What was Storm's caption? "Bare-knuckle street fighter" ...?

I must have forgot about that.

[Christopher O]

I think Emma should have the Dodson's #505 cover haircut.
Me too! It's so sassy and sexy. That style needs to make a comeback.

What was Storm's caption? "Bare-knuckle street fighter" ...?

I must have forgot about that.
Ahem!

Kenyan weather goddess. Bare-knuckle street fighter.


This wasn't too bad. Fraction has certainly done better on other books, but this wasn't bad.

[SayOcean]

I wouldnt like it if emma was just a made up part of Empaths mind, didnt we already have that over in Astonishing

[timbox]

Bare-knuckle street fighter.


Is this in reference to something specific, or is she just supposed to be a fighter in general?

[SayOcean]

She beat me up ONCE....and thats all they talk about now

[rwsmith]

Ali has an incredible rack! I think she might be my favorite X-woman now...:wink:

[Christopher O]

Is this in reference to something specific, or is she just supposed to be a fighter in general?
Pretty much, yeah. She's one of the better fighters among the X-Men. You clearly need to read up on your Storm history.

GOD, timbox.

GOD.

[timbox]

Pretty much, yeah. She's one of the better fighters among the X-Men. You clearly need to read up on your Storm history.

She showed off her fighting skill during Messiah Complex. That staff looked really heavy. That should be enough Storm history.

[tetragene]

It was an enjoyable read--I'll let this arc & next wrap-up before I decide whether to renew subscription or not. I haven't been blown away yet, although in all fairness I think both writers just need to set their groove with the new team & landscape and the book'll be set.

I already posted about Dazzler in the Dazz thread, but I have no complaints about her appearance. I'm really hoping she continues to show up and takes a more active role. She FINALLY looks like a hot blonde woman again! <3 And I'm surprised Land drew her to...uh..."out-booby" Emma. But hey, it's canon! I need to find that old Dazz page from her series--she always had tig bitties. Nice little nod to the old Beast/Dazzler friendship from her pre-X-Men career as well--hope we get more little nods like that.

I'd love for Karma & Cannonball to get more active & reocurring roles as well. UXM would be a great book to sptlight some of these characters.

I'm still not quite sure what to make of the whole Red Queen thing, but again--will wait for it to play out. I hope the whole "red headed psi" thing is a serious red herring because Maddie should not be revived (much as I love her) and I don't want ANYTHING Jean related touched with a 10-foot pole in the book for the forseeable future.

[We R. Venom]

I liked the issue. But I cant fuckign stand Land's art anymore. The scenes might have been a lot better with a better artist. They just looked over done and completely stupid. Everone with those dumb-ass smile son their faves. It looks like crap. If it wasnt for the promises made for Uncanny in the future, I wouldnt even be buying this bullshit book.

[North-Star]

My guess is; that the Red Qeen is actually Cordelia Frost. She's an empath as well, so she could be controlling Manuel and have some grudge against Emma.....

I haven't got my copy yet, but do we know more 'bout the Sisterhood?

[worstblogever]

My guess is; that the Red Qeen is actually Cordelia Frost. She's an empath as well, so she could be controlling Manuel and have some grudge against Emma.....

I haven't got my copy yet, but do we know more 'bout the Sisterhood?

That would beg the question, though, as to why Cordelia would have to ask who Emma was, though...

[Swashbuckler]

Yeah I don't think it's Cordelia. I haven't decided what she is, but being a figment of Emapth's imagination is a pretty good guess.

I really enjoyed Nightcrawler and Emma's interaction in this issue. I think he would be a good character to pair her up with occasionally so he could teach her some morals and be a compass character for her. Emma actually was amusing this issue to me and I actually enjoyed her one cheese-cake shot where she claims to want to brawl.

Nice to see Storm got some props about being a fighter, but I hate how Karma was just shoved out of the arc. The Dazzler was horrible I thought. I hated her cameo and it makes me not want her on the team at all. "Hey Pixie, come drug up my fans!" And her dialogue made her sound incredibly cliche and stupid. "Like, awesome", Hey, hey". I'd have rather had more Karma panels.

[Novaya Havoc]

The Dazzler was horrible I thought. I hated her cameo and it makes me not want her on the team at all. "Hey Pixie, come drug up my fans!" And her dialogue made her sound incredibly cliche and stupid. "Like, awesome", Hey, hey". I'd have rather had more Karma panels.

Yes. Because you are clearly someone who is interested in Dazzler at all.

Your concern is noted.

[Novaya Havoc]

The Dazzler was horrible I thought. I hated her cameo and it makes me not want her on the team at all. "Hey Pixie, come drug up my fans!" And her dialogue made her sound incredibly cliche and stupid. "Like, awesome", Hey, hey". I'd have rather had more Karma panels.

Yes. Because you are clearly someone who is interested in Dazzler at all, even prior to this.

Your concern is noted.

[Pro]

That would beg the question, though, as to why Cordelia would have to ask who Emma was, though...

Miss sinister didn't even know exactly who she herself was so she'd have some problem knowing who Emma was despite the dose of Maddie DNA.

[Swashbuckler]

Yes. Because you are clearly someone who is interested in Dazzler at all, even prior to this.

Your concern is noted.

I'm just saying I found her cameo poorly done. I don't hate the character, and enjoyed her back in the Aussie days. I liked her cameo in Eve of Destruction. Even her Deadpool appearance was cool. Nex was lame of course, but this wasn't that great either. I even don't mind her original series, though the more I read through it the more dated it feels and it's a concept that I don't see translating well. I'm just waiting for her to join the team and do something. How many issues will it be until she "dazzles" people with Emma between to amplify it?

[Christopher O]

I don't think anyone has been particularly dazzling under Fraction and Brubaker. They've all been solid to mediocre to straight up robotic (poor Storm). Dazzler falls under that solid category for me. It wasn't an amazing appearance, but it was still enjoyable.

[Jack Flash]

I love Cordelia, but she's so not the Red Queen. Her body type is all different that her.

[Beast]

I love Cordelia, but she's so not the Red Queen. Her body type is all different that her.
I wouldn't use that as evidence, given Land traces.

However the fact she didn't know who Emma was, is a more likely piece of evidence. :wink:

[jarrod]

Sinsister being a mix of Jean/Maddie and Sinny's DNA intrigues me... she'd be like Gambit's half sister then!

[darknessatnoon]

I am sure the Red Queen knows who Emma is. She was just abusing Empath to get to the woman better, to get to the core of her essence. Either way, that picture of Emma flexing has completely ruined the character for me. And the Red Queen is shit.

[Scavenger]

Discussing the art is just pointless...It's crap on toast.

The writing: Karma can read minds? Since when? She posseses people. That's pretty mega..why make her generic?

And why an elaborate torture session? Emma was outside the room...it's not like she has scrupples about digging thru someone's head.

Scott on Nightcrawler: Maybe not who you'd go to in a fight....uhm...other than that whole been doing this almost as long as him, is stronger, more versatile in combat and has been a team leader himself a number of times.

"Where'd they get tech like this?" how about, how do they know about a secret group of mercenaries to wear masks like them? OR, just assume the Hellfire Cult might be connected to the Hellfire Club...just a thought.

Why was Dazzler in a X-Uniform? (and what kind of pop-mega star (really?) wears gray?) It's made clear she's not on the team. (and why with all the sexual innuendo...though a little blatent for that...did they just not have Beast say "What? I used to bang her.")

Why was Peter mentioned in the battle plans but failed to be drawn in any of the scenes?

bah

[darknessatnoon]

Discussing the art is just pointless...It's crap on toast.

The writing: Karma can read minds? Since when? She posseses people. That's pretty mega..why make her generic?


Karma was reading minds years ago. Catch up.

[Christopher O]

Karma was reading minds years ago. Catch up.
And I'm thankful for that. This idea of specialized psychic powers is stupid to me. It's one thing for characters to be better at certain aspects of telepathy, but it's just dumb that Karma would only be able to do that one thing.

[jarrod]

Yeah, Karma's been a general telepath for awhile now. I think Fabe & Liefield were the first to establish it?

[eurazn]

Yeah I don't think it's Cordelia. I haven't decided what she is, but being a figment of Emapth's imagination is a pretty good guess..

That would seem a little too reminiscent of the Emma Frost/Perfection storyline. Granted, there was some active mental manipulation on the part of Cassandra Nova, but still ...

The Dazzler was horrible I thought. I hated her cameo and it makes me not want her on the team at all. "Hey Pixie, come drug up my fans!" And her dialogue made her sound incredibly cliche and stupid. "Like, awesome", Hey, hey". I'd have rather had more Karma panels.

I enjoyed it actually. Dazzler was talking to a teen, so it'd make sense for her to tailor her conversation to her. Dazzler's a performer, after all, she knows her audience. I also liked that it was such a light-hearted scene, it helped to balance all the dark and moody overtones in these issues lately. And Swash, I love you to death, but you liked Emma's cheeseball flexing but couldn't stomach Dazzler saying "like"?

Sinsister being a mix of Jean/Maddie and Sinny's DNA intrigues me... she'd be like Gambit's half sister then!

No ... please no ... no more convoluted bloodlines a la "Days of Our Lives!"

[Swashbuckler]

And Swash, I love you to death, but you liked Emma's cheeseball flexing but couldn't stomach Dazzler saying "like"?


I know, I was ashamed to admit I enjoyed Emma's panel. It was so cheesy. I think that's why I liked it. She looked stupid. And, I just enjoy her when she used her diamond powers.

[Christopher O]

And Swash, I love you to death, but you liked Emma's cheeseball flexing but couldn't stomach Dazzler saying "like"?
I know, I was ashamed to admit I enjoyed Emma's panel. It was so cheesy. I think that's why I liked it. She looked stupid. And, I just enjoy her when she used her diamond powers.
LOL

Hilarious!

[Scavenger]

And I'm thankful for that. This idea of specialized psychic powers is stupid to me. It's one thing for characters to be better at certain aspects of telepathy, but it's just dumb that Karma would only be able to do that one thing.

Yep..everyone should have generic powers.

Why limit to psychic powers.

Every strong person should be made out of rocks, green and have steel skin!

Cyclops should shoot beams out of everywhere.

Every smart person should be a master of all disciplines...oh..wait..that one happens already.

[frog]

I enjoyed it actually. Dazzler was talking to a teen, so it'd make sense for her to tailor her conversation to her. Dazzler's a performer, after all, she knows her audience. I also liked that it was such a light-hearted scene, it helped to balance all the dark and moody overtones in these issues lately. And Swash, I love you to death, but you liked Emma's cheeseball flexing but couldn't stomach Dazzler saying "like"?


Most teens I know tend to hate it when someone older picks up their lingo and uses it back to them. Perhaps Dazzler gets a free pass because she's a star, but it still makes me shudder.

I know, I was ashamed to admit I enjoyed Emma's panel. It was so cheesy. I think that's why I liked it. She looked stupid. And, I just enjoy her when she used her diamond powers.

I agree with the reviewer on IGN that said that Emma's coming off as a member of Sex in the City rather than the Ice Queen. She's more absurd than intimidating now.

[Christopher O]

Yep..everyone should have generic powers.

Why limit to psychic powers.

Every strong person should be made out of rocks, green and have steel skin!

Cyclops should shoot beams out of everywhere.

Every smart person should be a master of all disciplines...oh..wait..that one happens already.
You're not very good at sarcasm. Leave it to those who are.

[Novaya Havoc]

Most teens I know tend to hate it when someone older picks up their lingo and uses it back to them. Perhaps Dazzler gets a free pass because she's a star, but it still makes me shudder.


Seriously?

I mean.

Seriously?

I mean.

Seriously?

[jarrod]

Even in their triumphant returns, it seems Longshot got the luckier deal. LOL.

<3 <3 PAD <3 <3

[Christopher O]

Most teens I know tend to hate it when someone older picks up their lingo and uses it back to them. Perhaps Dazzler gets a free pass because she's a star, but it still makes me shudder.
I think you also have to consider her ordeal. She's a teen who has just been through a violently traumatic experience. I think most of us probably alter our tones when speaking to individuals who've just gone through serious trauma. In these circumstances, what would otherwise come across as condescending comes across as caring. That's what I'm seeing.

I agree with the reviewer on IGN that said that Emma's coming off as a member of Sex in the City rather than the Ice Queen. She's more absurd than intimidating now.
Yeah, they've definitely lost that Emma magic, but I think that's true across the board.s

[jarrod]

Honestly, I haven't liked Emma since Milligan. :frown:

She did have a few nice moments under Carey (taking down Exodus with Dust comes to mind) but even there she was essentially just Xavier with tits. :/

[Novaya Havoc]

Honestly, I haven't liked Emma since Milligan. :frown:

Yet you like Rachel Grey and Longshot.

Ergo, your opinion is irrelevant.

[streator]

this sounds like an odd issue. hopefully it reads better in person.

[jarrod]

Yet you like Rachel Grey and Longshot.

Ergo, your opinion is irrelevant.
Say the The Dazzler fan. :wink:

I haven't liked Longshot since his original solo. Well, I liked him this week's XF.

Ray's had it TOUGH for awhile now though... Millar, why did you abandon us?! :frown:

[Christopher O]

Rachel would work so much better for me as a concept, if she'd go hang out in the future with Cable.

[eurazn]

Most teens I know tend to hate it when someone older picks up their lingo and uses it back to them. Perhaps Dazzler gets a free pass because she's a star, but it still makes me shudder.

I think you also have to consider her ordeal. She's a teen who has just been through a violently traumatic experience. I think most of us probably alter our tones when speaking to individuals who've just gone through serious trauma. In these circumstance, what would otherwise come across as condescending comes across as caring. That's what I'm seeing.

Dazzler's not the average "older" person, though. There's a reason why teens and other young people show up at her concerts. There's also a reason why Beast would have invited her to the hospital instead of someone like Emma or Storm. I agree completely with Christopher on this.

I agree with the reviewer on IGN that said that Emma's coming off as a member of Sex in the City rather than the Ice Queen. She's more absurd than intimidating now.

As long as she's Samantha and not Carrie, it's all good :tongue:. Truth be told, though, her Ice Queen representation in Astonishing was very "bitter tranny" at times.

Even in their triumphant returns, it seems Longshot got the luckier deal. LOL.

<3 <3 PAD <3 <3

I'll take Land over Stroman any day, to be honest. Maybe we should pair Longshot's recent illustrations with Dazzler's :biggrin:

[pariah-1972]

"
Why was Dazzler in a X-Uniform? (and what kind of pop-mega star (really?) wears gray?) It's made clear she's not on the team. (and why with all the sexual innuendo...though a little blatent for that...did they just not have Beast say "What? I used to bang her.")



bahAs far as i understand Beast used to have a crush on Dazzler but they are just good friends .. Dazzler seems to only like the pretty boys and that pretty much rules out Beast:frown:

[frog]

As far as i understand Beast used to have a crush on Dazzler but they are just good friends .. Dazzler seems to only like the pretty boys and that pretty much rules out Beast:frown:

You must not have read the Dazzler/Beast mini. They were definitely once an item.

[pariah-1972]

You must not have read the Dazzler/Beast mini. They were definitely once an item.Never even heard of it :confused:

Why can't people just be good friends in the x-universe:frown:

[jarrod]

Rachel would work so much better for me as a concept, if she'd go hang out in the future with Cable.
She needs to be Ragged Robin'd. Emma's Lord Fanny rebirthing was what directly propelled her to new heights, we need the same for Ray.

Honestly, it's always surprised me how hard the X-books always try to make future characters as mundane and simplified as possible... it's their different perspective, understanding and way of thinking that should precisely make them unique and stand out. I mean, imagine if current day X-23 or Anole were transplanted to the MU 1950s or 1970s or something... you think it'd have turned out like Rachel Grey or Bishop?

[Novaya Havoc]

You must not have read the Dazzler/Beast mini. They were definitely once an item.

Yes, but Dazzler was being drugged at the time.

She was not right in the head.

Beast took advantage of her.

[lockerogue]

I have to agree with Jarrod on Milligan's Emma. I loved his Emma.

[frog]

Never even heard of it :confused:

Why can't people just be good friends in the x-universe:frown:

Well, they are friends now!

[jarrod]

I'll take Land over Stroman any day, to be honest. Maybe we should pair Longshot's recent illustrations with Dazzler's :biggrin:
Aesthetic debates are only half the battle. :P

<3 <3 PAD <3 <3

[jarrod]

Wasn't The Dazzler always drugged? I mean she *is* a canonical junkie.


<3 <3 Millar <3 <3

[frog]

Yes, but Dazzler was being drugged at the time.

She was not right in the head.

Beast took advantage of her.

Dazzler has better taste than you do.

[eurazn]

Aesthetic debates are only half the battle. :P

<3 <3 PAD <3 <3

So what you're saying is, we're at a stalemate and neither wins :cool:

Dazzler has better taste than you do.

You really want to get into a fight, don't you? LoL

[darknessatnoon]

She needs to be Ragged Robin'd. Emma's Lord Fanny rebirthing was what directly propelled her to new heights, we need the same for Ray.

Honestly, it's always surprised me how hard the X-books always try to make future characters as mundane and simplified as possible... it's their different perspective, understanding and way of thinking that should precisely make them unique and stand out. I mean, imagine if current day X-23 or Anole were transplanted to the MU 1950s or 1970s or something... you think it'd have turned out like Rachel Grey or Bishop?

I don't know. Let's move on from Rachel Grey! and BEAST!

How glad am I that Sage isn't involved in this mess of a comic?! Thank you, CC!

[lockerogue]

I don't know. Let's move on from Rachel Grey!

How glad am I that Sage isn't involved in this mess of a comic?! Thank you, CC!

Until her deepest and darkest secret is brought out into the light in 504 and 505.

[ExodusCloak]

That Red Queen is probably the same person who grabbed Martinque and boosted her powers. Whoever this is they can boost psionic powers as Empaths was boosted as well.

[jarrod]

Rachel Grey and The Beast might make an interesting couple, especially with Land drawn bedroom antics. What say you Mister Fraction?

[Novaya Havoc]

That Red Queen is probably the same person who grabbed Martinque and boosted her powers. Whoever this is they can boost psionic powers as Empaths was boosted as well.

Good observation!

[jarrod]

That Red Queen is probably the same person who grabbed Martinque and boosted her powers. Whoever this is they can boost psionic powers as Empaths was boosted as well.
ZOMG, the Red Queen is Bogan!!

[darknessatnoon]

Until her deepest and darkest secret is brought out into the light in 504 and 505.

How many times do I have to tell you that Tessa is not working the front desk in Scott's mental Motel Six?

[jester1436]

Dazzler has better taste than you do.

frog, a mature woman does not throw personal insults at other people.

[lockerogue]

How many times do I have to tell you that Tessa is not working the front desk in Scott's mental Motel Six?

She's there and you know it.

[ExodusCloak]

ZOMG, the Red Queen is Bogan!!

Or Sage. :tongue:

[Christopher O]

She needs to be Ragged Robin'd. Emma's Lord Fanny rebirthing was what directly propelled her to new heights, we need the same for Ray.
I would accept Rachel as part of the second coming of Morrison, yes. Storm and Emma would also have to be present and probably Cyclops, Beast, and Wolverine too.

Sage would need a recurring role.

[jarrod]

Dazzler has better taste than you do.
I dunno, Novaya was never in a common law marriage with Longshot iirc. :P

[jester1436]

She's there and you know it.

More so than even having a place for Jean in his head, Emma would certainly lobotomize Scott for having a mental place for Sage in his brain. Could you imagine her offense to finding such a thing?


Sage has a place for Emma in her brain though, in her "Pr0n" folder.

[jarrod]

I would accept Rachel as part of the second coming of Morrison, yes. Storm and Emma would also have to be present and probably Cyclops, Beast, and Wolverine too.

Sage would need a recurring role.
I think you just defined my dream book.

[Hi-Fi]

Some comments in this thread are completely uncalled for.

[darknessatnoon]

Some comments in this thread are completely uncalled for.

I hate when some posters physically threaten timbox!

[jester1436]

Some comments in this thread are completely uncalled for.

Hi-Fi has cooties. :mad:

[Christopher O]

Some comments in this thread are completely uncalled for.
Fine! Rogue should be there too.

[jarrod]

Some comments in this thread are completely uncalled for.
I called Rogue trailer trash in the other thread Hiffy.

[Hi-Fi]

I hate when some posters physically threaten timbox!
Please. I know he likes that.

Hi-Fi has cooties. :mad:
I don't know what that means. I'm ESL!

Fine! Rogue should be there too.
There. Now we're good.

I called Rogue trailer trash in the other thread Hiffy.
I know you didn't mean it, Jarrod. It would be ironic if you did. :wink:

[Charybdis4]

I Either way, that picture of Emma flexing has completely ruined the character for me.

Here here - that is without doubt the worst image of Emma of all time, it even out shines the infamous "New X-Men: Camel toe" cover.

[jester1436]

I don't know what that means. I'm ESL!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooties

[eurazn]

Rachel Grey and The Beast might make an interesting couple, especially with Land drawn bedroom antics. What say you Mister Fraction?

Well, she has had an on-panel history of having affections for blue uncle figures, so that would make logical sense ...

[jarrod]

I know you didn't mean it, Jarrod. It would be ironic if you did. :wink:
LOL. I'll have you know that Rachel grew up in a mansion!

[frog]

frog, a mature woman does not throw personal insults at other people.

That's true. Neither does a mature man.

[Hi-Fi]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooties
OMG uncalled for!

[frog]

Rachel Grey and The Beast might make an interesting couple, especially with Land drawn bedroom antics. What say you Mister Fraction?

And just where in the heck will Land find the porn to trace this from?



Do Not Answer - I don't want to know if there is some.

[Red Savina]

Rachel would work so much better for me as a concept, if she'd go hang out in the future with Cable.

I agree.

Yeah, they've definitely lost that Emma magic, but I think that's true across the board.s

I agree.

And I'm thankful for that. This idea of specialized psychic powers is stupid to me. It's one thing for characters to be better at certain aspects of telepathy, but it's just dumb that Karma would only be able to do that one thing.

I agree!

Me too! [Emma's haircut from Uncanny X-Men #505 is] so sassy and sexy. That style needs to make a comeback.

I agree with this, too!!


Well, it was nice talking to you all.

[jester1436]

OMG uncalled for!

HAW HAW HAW HAW! :smile:

[pariah-1972]

I think Chris O has made a new friend.

[jarrod]

Well, she has had an on-panel history of having affections for blue uncle figures, so that would make logical sense ...
LOL! 4-way with Hank, Kurt and Warren? She's got a hole for each!

[darknessatnoon]

LOL! 4-way with Hank, Kurt and Warren? She's got a hole for each!

I think the Rachel fans should follow the Sage fans' lead and get together to excommunicate you.

[jarrod]

I think the Rachel fans should follow the Sage fans' lead and get together to excommunicate you.
Josef wouldn't never excommunicate me!

[darknessatnoon]

Josef wouldn't never excommunicate me!

It was unanimous, jarrod.

[Christopher O]

Well, it was nice talking to you all.
We should do it again!

I think Chris O has made a new friend.
So it would seem.

[jester1436]

I think the Rachel fans should follow the Sage fans' lead and get together to excommunicate you.

As a fan of Rachel Summers, I agree with this suggestion.

[jarrod]

It was unanimous, jarrod.
LOL. I need to hear from Josef and zonzorp first, you trickster.


As a fan of Rachel Summers, I agree with this suggestion.
Charlatan!

[Pro]

That Red Queen is probably the same person who grabbed Martinque and boosted her powers. Whoever this is they can boost psionic powers as Empaths was boosted as well.

Why that would take a briliant geneticist like .. oh yea sinister.

[creaky]

Scott on Nightcrawler: Maybe not who you'd go to in a fight....uhm...other than that whole been doing this almost as long as him, is stronger, more versatile in combat and has been a team leader himself a number of times.

No, the comment was "At first glance, Kurt might not seem the most useful in a fight, but years of training make him a formidable brawler."

[Eye in the Sky]

This has not been bad. Ending #500 with the multiple plot threads I was kind of hoping to see each one touched upon as the book went one, but I see now it seems like we are dealing with each one in an individual arc.

Oh, hi, First Post! :)

[Bamf25]

This issue makes it seem like Uncanny is starting to gain some momentum, and find a voice. I hope I am not wrong. This was the best issue in months.

As for the sexual themes, they just do not seem needed, and are detracting from the story. They could have done whipped and defeated for Empath withou really making him whipped and defeated.

[DeniseXfrost]

Jarrod has a very bad taste! Honey, go wash your mouth with a bar of soap.

[pariah-1972]

This has not been bad. Ending #500 with the multiple plot threads I was kind of hoping to see each one touched upon as the book went one, but I see now it seems like we are dealing with each one in an individual arc.

Oh, hi, First Post! :)(waves at new poster)

[pariah-1972]

This issue makes it seem like Uncanny is starting to gain some momentum, and find a voice. I hope I am not wrong. This was the best issue in months.

As for the sexual themes, they just do not seem needed, and are detracting from the story. They could have done whipped and defeated for Empath withou really making him whipped and defeated.I don't really mind sexual themes even tho it doesnt seem really relevant to anything in the story.
but the way they are doing it is really forced.


Greg Lands art doesn't help at all.

[jarrod]

Jarrod has a very bad taste! Honey, go wash your mouth with a bar of soap.
Bad taste? Dear, I'm not the one with white leather X-pasties and a diaper for tucking... I mean seriously, if you're going to bother why not go the full length and add spikes, facial tattoos, phallic back tattoos or something? :biggrin:

[Novaya Havoc]

Bad taste? Dear, I'm not the one with white leather X-pasties and a diaper for tucking... I mean seriously, if you're going to bother why not go the full length and add spikes, facial tattoos, phallic back tattoos or something? :biggrin:

You champion the return of Maggott. I side with Denise.

[Go Go]

I love, love, loved this issue!

I'm so glad Dazzler is back in a quality monthly X-comic! I'm so glad that the Dazzler we got in this issue was not the same one as the one over in X-Calibrrrrr (perhaps that was a skrull posing as Ali in that book). Anyways, even loved Ali's suggestion to Pixie to use her powers at one of her concerts. Good times! I'm so glad to have a fun and perky Dazzler back in an X-book again!

[Bingo!]

I love, love, loved this issue!

I'm so glad Dazzler is back in a quality monthly X-comic! I'm so glad that the Dazzler we got in this issue was not the same one as the one over in X-Calibrrrrr (perhaps that was a skrull posing as Ali in that book). Anyways, even loved Ali's suggestion to Pixie to use her powers at one of her concerts. Good times! I'm so glad to have a fun and perky Dazzler back in an X-book again!

I actually found her job offer to Pixie unusual. Sure it was a really nice offer, but isn't it really a ruse for drugging her audience? Gotta push that Dazz product somehow.

[pariah-1972]

I don't believe the real Dazzler would purposely drug her audience without there permission.

[Monty_Cristo]

I don't believe the real Dazzler would purposely drug her audience without there permission.

skrull-Dazzler might.

[Bingo!]

I don't believe the real Dazzler would purposely drug her audience without there permission.

skrull-Dazzler might.

ha. I'm pretty sure that was the real Alison and she did encourage creating a psychedelic environment for her concert. I don't think using pixie dust on people is considered drugging, but it's the same idea.

[eurazn]

I don't believe the real Dazzler would purposely drug her audience without there permission.

ha. I'm pretty sure that was the real Alison and she did encourage creating a psychedelic environment for her concert. I don't think using pixie dust on people is considered drugging, but it's the same idea.

There was a disclaimer on the back of the tickets. All those attending the concert, by virtue of acquiring and presenting the tickets for admission, agreed to the possibility of mutant power-induced euphoria. Dazzler and those associated with the production are not liable for lewd acts and uncharacteristic behavior committed by concert-goers.

[Novaya Havoc]

I actually found her job offer to Pixie unusual. Sure it was a really nice offer, but isn't it really a ruse for drugging her audience? Gotta push that Dazz product somehow.

I don't believe the real Dazzler would purposely drug her audience without there permission.

Oh for the love of Sarah Palin!

I hate getting involved in these "what the characters really meant" diatribes, but c'mon.

Pixie was just hate-crime'd for what? For being a mutant.

What is one of Pixie's powers? Her hallucinogenic dust.

Dazz -- who knows Pixie admires her -- basically is saying "Own your shit, sister! Come up with me, shake your groove thing, and let's party! Own your gift on stage with me like I own mine!"

Instead this has gone on for pages like Dazzler is all "let's drug the people! Woo! Crack is fab!"

She's trying to empower Pixie about her gift since she was just beat to near hell for simply having it. She's basically saying "Own it, girl! Let's make it happen."

She's pep-talking Pixie. It's not like she's trying to use the kid to peddle a special brand of Pixie crack.

I can find faults with the issue, but this rates about as high as the Marvel.com boarders going "The intro files say Dazzler has explosive lights! Dazzler's lights don't explode!"

Stop taking everything so flippin' literally.

[darknessatnoon]

Oh for the love of Sarah Palin!

I hate getting involved in these "what the characters really meant" diatribes, but c'mon.

Pixie was just hate-crime'd for what? For being a mutant.

What is one of Pixie's powers? Her hallucinogenic dust.

Dazz -- who knows Pixie admires her -- basically is saying "Own your shit, sister! Come up with me, shake your groove thing, and let's party! Own your gift on stage with me like I own mine!"

Instead this has gone on for pages like Dazzler is all "let's drug the people! Woo! Crack is fab!"

She's trying to empower Pixie about her gift since she was just beat to near hell for simply having it. She's basically saying "Own it, girl! Let's make it happen."

She's pep-talking Pixie. It's not like she's trying to use the kid to peddle a special brand of Pixie crack.

I can find faults with the issue, but this rates about as high as the Marvel.com boarders going "The intro files say Dazzler has explosive lights! Dazzler's lights don't explode!"

Stop taking everything so flippin' literally.

You are a master of spin.

*bows*

I will concede that this Dazzler is an improvement. NEX Dazzler would have given Pixie a sponge bath.

[drwho]

Are they going to explain why Dazzler couldnt die? Also do they reveal who the dominatrix chick is?

[Novaya Havoc]

You are a master of spin.

*bows*


Foolbox! How dare you say I'm spinning.

Your anti-Palin bias shows. And because of this, I am sending you a pair of Sarah Palin-styled glasses. I'll even have the lenses colored red so you can role-play as either S.A.G.E. or your muse, the Red Queen.

[eurazn]

Oh for the love of Sarah Palin!

I hate getting involved in these "what the characters really meant" diatribes, but c'mon.

Pixie was just hate-crime'd for what? For being a mutant.

What is one of Pixie's powers? Her hallucinogenic dust.

Dazz -- who knows Pixie admires her -- basically is saying "Own your shit, sister! Come up with me, shake your groove thing, and let's party! Own your gift on stage with me like I own mine!"

Instead this has gone on for pages like Dazzler is all "let's drug the people! Woo! Crack is fab!"

She's trying to empower Pixie about her gift since she was just beat to near hell for simply having it. She's basically saying "Own it, girl! Let's make it happen."

She's pep-talking Pixie. It's not like she's trying to use the kid to peddle a special brand of Pixie crack.

I can find faults with the issue, but this rates about as high as the Marvel.com boarders going "The intro files say Dazzler has explosive lights! Dazzler's lights don't explode!"

Stop taking everything so flippin' literally.

Well said! Minus the Sarah Palin thing, lol :tongue:

[justinkos91]

Cassaday got Emma right. Sexy matured woman. Although justinkos91 failed by using the first pic.

They didn't have much of a variety on Google :tongue:
My bad on that. was looking for emma frost looks that were recent, but not too recent, anything before Greg Land got on art. I agree, Cassady's Emma is good :smile:

[darknessatnoon]

Foolbox! How dare you say I'm spinning.

Your anti-Palin bias shows. And because of this, I am sending you a pair of Sarah Palin-styled glasses. I'll even have the lenses colored red so you can role-play as either S.A.G.E. or your muse, the Red Queen.

I wonder how Sarah Palin would react if I sent her a copy of the latest Uncanny?

[eurazn]

They didn't have much of a variety on Google :tongue:
My bad on that. was looking for emma frost looks that were recent, but not too recent, anything before Greg Land got on art. I agree, Cassady's Emma is good :smile:

That Emma looked ... yikes. Like Cassandra Nova with bad tranny-goth lipstick and a discount wig from Spencer's Gifts.

Sexy matured woman? Well ... I guess 2 out of 3 wasn't bad.

[Novaya Havoc]

Are they going to explain why Dazzler couldnt die?

No. And hopefully they'll just ignore it. Useless subplot that will just detract from the already slow-burning plots on-hand. I'd love more Dazzler time, but not to wrap up CC's leftovers.

It seems we need page time as it is to get through the myriad of sub-plots already existing in this title, rather than dwell on Die by an Ulcer.

Also do they reveal who the dominatrix chick is?

No. And I wish they'd move along with it already.

I'm really hoping the Brubaker-Dodson arc moves a bit faster. And be a bit less Cyclops-Emma-Wolverine centric.

[Novaya Havoc]

I wonder how Sarah Palin would react if I sent her a copy of the latest Uncanny?

She'd field dress you like the moose you are!!!!1

[eurazn]

I wonder how Sarah Palin would react if I sent her a copy of the latest Uncanny?

She'd never get the copy because she would have lobbied to have them banned in Alaska anyway.

dn@n, you're going to get me in trouble ...

[Bingo!]

Oh for the love of Sarah Palin!

I hate getting involved in these "what the characters really meant" diatribes, but c'mon.

Pixie was just hate-crime'd for what? For being a mutant.

What is one of Pixie's powers? Her hallucinogenic dust.

Dazz -- who knows Pixie admires her -- basically is saying "Own your shit, sister! Come up with me, shake your groove thing, and let's party! Own your gift on stage with me like I own mine!"

Instead this has gone on for pages like Dazzler is all "let's drug the people! Woo! Crack is fab!"

She's trying to empower Pixie about her gift since she was just beat to near hell for simply having it. She's basically saying "Own it, girl! Let's make it happen."

She's pep-talking Pixie. It's not like she's trying to use the kid to peddle a special brand of Pixie crack.

I can find faults with the issue, but this rates about as high as the Marvel.com boarders going "The intro files say Dazzler has explosive lights! Dazzler's lights don't explode!"

Stop taking everything so flippin' literally.
This is all very obvious. We get it. Your diatribe about what the character really means is sweet though.

And I do love that Dazzler is being supportive of Pixie. That doesn't change that fact that the drug innuendo is still there and it is blatant. Do you really think that the writers didn't consider it? San Francisco has a strong history of drug exploration, so I'd imagine Dazzler, while in SF, is open to that.

I am definitely interested in seeing the two ladies work together, but hope they can fight together first.

[justinkos91]

That Emma looked ... yikes. Like Cassandra Nova with bad tranny-goth lipstick and a discount wig from Spencer's Gifts.

Sexy matured woman? Well ... I guess 2 out of 3 wasn't bad.

Yeah, bad image choice...
but I can't stand Emma now. She acts like a celebrity porn star. Before, I could respect her because she was a teacher, and somewhat of an adult figure, I saw her as a high class whore. Now, she sucks. She's more perky than the usual Emma I'm used to. Whatever happened to snobby sarcastic Emma. Was she not getting laid enough in NY? What gives? :frown:

[Novaya Havoc]

This is all very obvious. We get it. Your diatribe about what the character really means is sweet though.

And I do love that Dazzler is being supportive of Pixie. That doesn't change that fact that the drug innuendo is still there and it is blatant. Do you really think that the writers didn't consider it? San Francisco has a strong history of drug exploration, so I'd imagine Dazzler, while in SF, is open to that.

I am definitely interested in seeing the two ladies work together, but hope they can fight together first.

Sure. The drug innuendo is there. I won't deny that. But all this crackrocks on "Dazzler is irresponsible!" "OMG this is escandalo!" is way out of proportion.

In the context of the scene, Dazzler was giving Pixie a pep-talk and giving her a reason to celebrate her gift. Yeah, sure, it's a drug anvil (as Vash would say in his Dazzler reviews!), but Dazzler's power-set can basically (and has on-panel) done the same thing already.

I'd prefer Dazzler as Pixie's mentor over Wolverine, as an aside. This "Wolverine + underage rookie chick" schtick is bleh. Especially with Armor in Astonishing, and Wolverine: First Class on the shelves as it is.

[darknessatnoon]

She'd field dress you like the moose you are!!!!1

Moose?
I registered to vote today. Punditry like that risks alienating the electorate. One would have thought that Rachel Grey beating Dazzler in the Best X-Men vote would have taught you a lesson.

But it's obvious that it was just jarrod/CC spamming with different user IDs.

[eurazn]

One would have thought that Rachel Grey beating Dazzler in the Best X-Men vote would have taught you a lesson.

That was below the belt. Where was Sage placed again?

[Bingo!]

Yeah, bad image choice...
but I can't stand Emma now. She acts like a celebrity porn star. Before, I could respect her because she was a teacher, and somewhat of an adult figure, I saw her as a high class whore. Now, she sucks. She's more perky than the usual Emma I'm used to. Whatever happened to snobby sarcastic Emma. Was she not getting laid enough in NY? What gives? :frown:

Don't trust a Land-drawn-Emma.

Her vacant and inappropriate facial expressions do not convey the subtle emotions past artists have graced Emma with.

[Novaya Havoc]

Moose?
I registered to vote today. Punditry like that risks alienating the electorate. One would have thought that Rachel Grey beating Dazzler in the Best X-Men vote would have taught you a lesson.


You live in Hyde Park. I understand voting out of a necessary survival instinct!

[Bingo!]

Sure. The drug innuendo is there. I won't deny that. But all this crackrocks on "Dazzler is irresponsible!" "OMG this is escandalo!" is way out of proportion.

In the context of the scene, Dazzler was giving Pixie a pep-talk and giving her a reason to celebrate her gift. Yeah, sure, it's a drug anvil (as Vash would say in his Dazzler reviews!), but Dazzler's power-set can basically (and has on-panel) done the same thing already.

kk, We're on the same page. :wink:
I'd prefer Dazzler as Pixie's mentor over Wolverine, as an aside. This "Wolverine + underage rookie chick" schtick is bleh. Especially with Armor in Astonishing, and Wolverine: First Class on the shelves as it is.
YES! Daz and Pix!!! Wolverine does not need to mentor any more children. Look what it's done to Kitty and Jubilee.

[darknessatnoon]

That was below the belt. Where was Sage placed again?

:frown: How dare you? She made the list at least! Even though all her hard-core fan(atics) were driven off by you Dazzler fans before I even started posting!

God, by existing Rachel Grey hurts us all.

You live in Hyde Park. I understand voting out of a necessary survival instinct!

True. I'll be at the center of the riot zone when Obama loses.

[Bingo!]

God, by existing Rachel Grey hurts us all.
:eek: Rachel is not a product of God. You should know this.

[darknessatnoon]

:eek: Rachel is not a product of God. You should know this.

Rachel is one of the reasons why I can't vote for the Pro-Life candidate.