View Full Version : Secret Invasion - Response because of Terrorist acts?
jackolover
09-16-2008, 04:45 PM
Notice how there have been a lot of suicide bombings in the SI? It wouldn't be too much of a stretch that all of us realise that SI is just a comics book response to the infiltration of terrorists that can happen in our society.
In Australia they just concluded a trial and found 6 guilty of being a terrorist cell, planning, for one thing, to blow up a major football event in Melbourne, and the cleric in charge was quoted as saying, 'You can't trust anyone'. It just bought home how people, like these Middle Eastern folk, can infiltrate our societies and plan to destroy women and children and laugh it off as religious fanaticism.
The Skrulls are religous fanatics, using their faith to blow up women and children to further their political ends, and trying to justify it to the population through the media, and with threats and intimidation to blame the super humans for all the trouble and if only the super humans would stop resisting, or if they were destroyed, then the world would be a better place.
Skrulls make a good characterisation from the comic books for religious fanatics currently using their religion to further their ends, because they have the qualities the real life fanatics have - invisibility, non-detection, suicide bombings, infiltration, and an alien agenda.
hunter_peterson
09-17-2008, 07:31 AM
Skrulls make a good characterisation from the comic books for religious fanatics currently using their religion to further their ends, because they have the qualities the real life fanatics have - invisibility, non-detection, suicide bombings, infiltration, and an alien agenda.
Pun intended?:tongue:
But seriously, I do believe that this what Bendis is aiming towards. And if I'm right about Dark Reign being about the villains being the type of "hero" that the Marvel U needs after the heroes proving how untrustworthy they are since Civil War, the next political dig will be about how to combat "terrorists" we have to use extremely questionable methods.
Push You Down
09-17-2008, 11:13 AM
yeah this would have been a better overall analogy.... like 5 to 6 years ago.
Sandy Hausler
09-17-2008, 12:11 PM
Pun intended?:tongue:
But seriously, I do believe that this what Bendis is aiming towards. And if I'm right about Dark Reign being about the villains being the type of "hero" that the Marvel U needs after the heroes proving how untrustworthy they are since Civil War, the next political dig will be about how to combat "terrorists" we have to use extremely questionable methods.
Just curious. Which heroes proved to be untrustworthy? The ones who chose to fight an unconstitutional law? Or the ones who supported a government who put violators of the law in prison in the Negative Zone without trial for indefinite periods?
Sandy Hausler
Leocomix
09-17-2008, 12:15 PM
I noticed that the religious fanatics angle is a comment on fundamentalists whether Christians or muslim but when I see the video campaign and the ads with their promises of a world without war or crime I feel this is also a comment on Scientology.
ExodusCloak
09-17-2008, 12:34 PM
Some of the SI books have shown a more balanced view regarding the Skrulls and their religion.(Venus' and Nightcrawlers reaction)
And I don't think the way the OP is phrased is what Marvel's trying to show. Not all Middle East folk are fanatics much like not all Skrulls are fanatics and how not all Americans are part of the KKK.
The Illuminati are to blame if anything, I hope they get their asses handed to them on a political scale by the Illuminaughty.
"He loves you"...all of you.
Guest_1001
09-17-2008, 12:39 PM
And I don't think the way the OP is phrased is what Marvel's trying to show. Not all Middle East folk are fantatics much like not all Skrulls are fantatics and how not all Americans are part of the KKK.
I did wonder about that myself. The phrasing of this statement:
It just bought home how people, like these Middle Eastern folk, can infiltrate our societies and plan to destroy women and children and laugh it off as religious fanaticism.
"These Middle Eastern folk" . . . the thing is, it could be taken both ways. It could be taken to mean ALL Middle Eastern people or "these" could specifically mean "these people who are terrorists", putting it specifically at the feet of those responsible, those who have committed terrible acts being Middle Eastern.
jackolover
09-17-2008, 03:48 PM
I did wonder about that myself. The phrasing of this statement:
"These Middle Eastern folk" . . . the thing is, it could be taken both ways. It could be taken to mean ALL Middle Eastern people or "these" could specifically mean "these people who are terrorists", putting it specifically at the feet of those responsible, those who have committed terrible acts being Middle Eastern.
The thing is you don't know who to trust. The innocent and the dangerous. All we know is that Middle Eastern people blow up westerners, and that makes all Middle Eastern people suspicious, that live amongst us. It's not the innocent ones fault that the terrorists are in Middle Eastern guises, if you know what I mean. Same goes with the Skrulls. They take on guises of very ordinary people around us, and we can't even be suspicious of one sector of the community because the Skrulls can be anybody.
Guest_1001
09-17-2008, 03:58 PM
All we know is that Middle Eastern people blow up westerners, and that makes all Middle Eastern people suspicious, that live amongst us.
All I can say is that I'm glad I'm not as cynical as that.
ExodusCloak
09-17-2008, 04:20 PM
All I can say is that I'm glad I'm not as cynical as that.
I wouldn't use the word cynical.
Come to think of it, the situation is actually interchangable.
The States(Skrulls) invading Iraq(Earth) and bringing democracy which will help them embrace change for the better.
I really like Bendis ideas...especially the "He loves you" thing. His execution though is a hit and miss for me. The Skrulls geninuely believe that they're trying to save us, they're dying to free us according to the Goddess Venus (Agents of Atlas) that's why she wouldn't hurt them.
Thing is the Skrulls have wonderful ideas that are just too impractical to work. What might be a success on their homeworld may not work on ours. On the other hand the Skrulls also brought a gift to Earth(Unity to the heroes and possible removal of the SHRA) much like the States brought a gift to Iraq(Removal of Saddam Hussein) at the expense of their own empires.
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