Magda's Fate

[Push You Down]

It's always been left very open-ended with what happened to Magda.

She gives birth to the twins and then wanders out into the blizzard on Wundagore and disappears. But to my knowledge it's never been established for sure that she died.

Has any writer ever ( or even just wanted to) touched on Magda being alive still?

Might be interesting. Might be terrible.

[Rivka]

It's always been left very open-ended with what happened to Magda.

She gives birth to the twins and then wanders out into the blizzard on Wundagore and disappears. But to my knowledge it's never been established for sure that she died.

Has any writer ever ( or even just wanted to) touched on Magda being alive still?

Might be interesting. Might be terrible.

We were just discussing this in detail in the Magnus Family Appreciation Thread.

Here:

Page 214 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=165483&page=214)

And here:

Page 215 (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=165483&page=215)

There must be Magda vibes everywhere now, because of what we're learning about her, in MAGNETO TESTAMENT.

Let us know what you think about the discussion!

[MartinRedmond]

Magneto visits her grave in a Classic X-Men back-up.

[Leirus]

Magneto visits her grave in a Classic X-Men back-up.

Sure it was Magda´s and not Isabelle´s? You know, his girlfriend when he was working for the mossad in Brazil. The one who ended up with her throat sliced...

[DDM]

I like leaving Magda's fate a mystery. Is she alive? Dead? It just adds to the mystery of Magneto, the Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver.

[DDM]

Magneto visits her grave in a Classic X-Men back-up.

I believe Magneto visits Anya's grave who died in a house fire shown in Classic X-Men #12. Anya is Magneto & Magda's first child.

[MartinRedmond]

Thanks DDM~

[MartinRedmond]

Perhaps Magda will turn out to be Mr Sinister or Xorn. Right after Rogue becomes bi and has sex with Mystique. Who knows what will happen next!!!!

[Leirus]

Thanks DDM~


So I had the wrong tomb, also...

I was also ntrigued by Magda... It could be make a beautiful story if Magneto founf her... but also it could be a horrible, soppy one, so maybe better not

[DDM]

Magneto is not sure of Magda's fate; he himself does not know if she is alive or dead. A part of Magneto died when Magda ran off in fear of her own husband when he first manifested his magnetic powers; this has haunted him since. Sometime later, she makes it to Wundagore Mountain to give birth to twins & leaves them with a local couple. Then she vanishes into thin air.

I am of the belief she is not dead, but wishes not to be found by anyone.

[Monty_Cristo]

Magneto is not sure of Magda's fate; he himself does not know if she is alive or dead. A part of Magneto died when Magda ran off in fear of her own husband when he first manifested his magnetic powers; this has haunted him since. Sometime later, she makes it to Wundagore Mountain to give birth to twins & leaves them with a local couple. Then she vanishes into thin air.

I am of the belief she is not dead, but wishes not to be found by anyone.

possible. but i kind of doubt that there's anywhere she could hide from him.

[longshot3]

Maybe we could find out something about Magda given that Magneto is involved with the High Evolutionary over in Uncanny.

[Petes Pants]

She's here with me.

She'd like you all to know that she's safe and sound. She's flattered you're interested in her whereabouts.

She's a simple woman. She likes Quizno's sandwiches and watching Deal or No Deal. And she wants to be left alone.

[Monty_Cristo]

She's here with me.

She'd like you all to know that she's safe and sound. She's flattered you're interested in her whereabouts.

She's a simple woman. She likes Quizno's sandwiches and watching Deal or No Deal. And she wants to be left alone.

i would have never taken you for a granny-grabber.

[Petes Pants]

I keep my hands to myself.

Plus she came to me. She said she heard 'round the way that I prepare a to-die-for epsom salt foot bath.

[pariah-1972]

I love how genetics work In comic book universe's i mean Pietro looks like a younger skinnier version of Magneto *silver hair and all* and Wanda looks exactly like a bustier version/sexxier of Magda.

[DDM]

I love how genetics work In comic book universe's i mean Pietro looks like a younger skinnier version of Magneto *silver hair and all* and Wanda looks exactly like a bustier version/sexxier of Magda.

Magda's first real appearance is her brief picture on Magneto's computer screen in Uncanny X-Men #125; this is all part of what was happening in The Avengers #185-187 with the Scarlet Witch & Quicksivler's origin. Magda was purposely made to look like Wanda Maximoff.

[Monty_Cristo]

I keep my hands to myself.

Plus she came to me. She said she heard 'round the way that I prepare a to-die-for epsom salt foot bath.

are you also hiding Blind Al?

[Petes Pants]

are you also hiding Blind Al?

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/news/070625/al_pacino3.jpg

Hoo-ah!

[Monty_Cristo]

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/news/070625/al_pacino3.jpg

Hoo-ah!

well played, pants! foiled again!

[Rivka]

Sure it was Magda´s and not Isabelle´s? You know, his girlfriend when he was working for the mossad in Brazil. The one who ended up with her throat sliced...

The grave stone was just a marker outside of Bova's hut on Mt. Wundagore, the last place Magda was seen alive, according to Bova. We don't know what happened to Magda.

Isabelle was a Brazilian doctor. Magneto was working as a double agent for Mossad (turning Nazi war criminals over to Israel for trial) and an unnamed Western intelligence agency, probably not the CIA, once I studied the dialog, more likely British Intelligence. He was using the resources of the latter to find the Nazis, and turn them over to Israel. The MI-5 or CIA, whichever, apparently knew all along about Magneto's double-dealings, but didn't care, so long as the Nazis he turned over to Israel were those the then Soviet Union had optioned. Moreover, Magneto knew that the MI-5 or CIA knew, and thought -- very naively -- that they were secretly on his side, letting him hand the war criminals over to Israel.

But they caught up with him, because he caught the wrong Nazi, (Oberstrumbanfuhrer Hans RIchter, "late of the Waffen SS") and his "control" and other agents slit Isabelle's throat right in front of him. Magneto went ballistic, blew up the agents, rose into the air with his full powers, and hurled "control" into the air, far, far away.The story is "I, Magneto," in CLASSIC X-MEN #19.

[Rivka]

I am of the belief she is not dead, but wishes not to be found by anyone.

That's what I think, too. But she'd be a very elderly lady, now. Maybe the story will come down, one day, to an elderly woman passes away, and leaves some strange notebook or diary behind that she wishes to be sent to the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. And they and we will find out what happened to their mother.

[MartinRedmond]

She can't become elderly if she's Wanda's and Pietro's mom, silly!!

[Leirus]

The grave stone was just a marker outside of Bova's hut on Mt. Wundagore, the last place Magda was seen alive, according to Bova. We don't know what happened to Magda.

Isabelle was a Brazilian doctor. Magneto was working as a double agent for Mossad (turning Nazi war criminals over to Israel for trial) and an unnamed Western intelligence agency, probably not the CIA, once I studied the dialog, more likely British Intelligence. He was using the resources of the latter to find the Nazis, and turn them over to Israel. The MI-5 or CIA, whichever, apparently knew all along about Magneto's double-dealings, but didn't care, so long as the Nazis he turned over to Israel were those the then Soviet Union had optioned. Moreover, Magneto knew that the MI-5 or CIA knew, and thought -- very naively -- that they were secretly on his side, letting him hand the war criminals over to Israel.

But they caught up with him, because he caught the wrong Nazi, (Oberstrumbanfuhrer Hans RIchter, "late of the Waffen SS") and his "control" and other agents slit Isabelle's throat right in front of him. Magneto went ballistic, blew up the agents, rose into the air with his full powers, and hurled "control" into the air, far, far away.The story is "I, Magneto," in CLASSIC X-MEN #19.

Wow... that is a memory... I only remembered that in a cloudy way...

Poor Isabelle. In fairness, Magnus is a character more sympathetic than Cyclops, right now. The life has treated him badly...

[MartinRedmond]

Especially when he murdered that kid for farting constantly. Magneto is second only to Jesus in pure victimhood.

[darknessatnoon]

Maybe Magda is Mutant Zero.

[Seikun21]

Maybe Magda is Mutant Zero.

That would be a very interesting story. I'd be really tempted to buy Avengers: the Initiative just for that.

[Valeria Kementari]

When Astra first showed up during the Magneto War I had this theory that she was Magda... it would've been cool

[Monty_Cristo]

That would be a very interesting story. I'd be really tempted to buy Avengers: the Initiative just for that.

Magda's never been on the cover of an x-book; as far as i can recollect.

[Gnarl]

The grave stone was just a marker outside of Bova's hut on Mt. Wundagore, the last place Magda was seen alive, according to Bova. We don't know what happened to Magda.

Isabelle was a Brazilian doctor. Magneto was working as a double agent for Mossad (turning Nazi war criminals over to Israel for trial) and an unnamed Western intelligence agency, probably not the CIA, once I studied the dialog, more likely British Intelligence. He was using the resources of the latter to find the Nazis, and turn them over to Israel. The MI-5 or CIA, whichever, apparently knew all along about Magneto's double-dealings, but didn't care, so long as the Nazis he turned over to Israel were those the then Soviet Union had optioned. Moreover, Magneto knew that the MI-5 or CIA knew, and thought -- very naively -- that they were secretly on his side, letting him hand the war criminals over to Israel.

But they caught up with him, because he caught the wrong Nazi, (Oberstrumbanfuhrer Hans RIchter, "late of the Waffen SS") and his "control" and other agents slit Isabelle's throat right in front of him. Magneto went ballistic, blew up the agents, rose into the air with his full powers, and hurled "control" into the air, far, far away.The story is "I, Magneto," in CLASSIC X-MEN #19.

I have always been of the opinion that this story explains a lot about the stuff Gabrielle Haller said back in X-Men Unlimited # 2 (?). This was the infamous issue that tried to retcon Magnus into being a gypsy, among other things.

I find much about the story falls into place if we assume that Gabrielle Haller, a high-ranking Israeli, was simply lying to obfuscate Magnus involvement with Mossad.

[Rivka]

I have always been of the opinion that this story explains a lot about the stuff Gabrielle Haller said back in X-Men Unlimited # 2 (?). This was the infamous issue that tried to retcon Magnus into being a gypsy, among other things.

I find much about the story falls into place if we assume that Gabrielle Haller, a high-ranking Israeli, was simply lying to obfuscate Magnus involvement with Mossad.

I 200% completely agree.

I mean, why would an Auschwitz survivor give bogus information about Holocaust and Auschwitz history? (I realize that it's because the writer couldn't be bothered to do any research, but we have to find an in-Universe explanation.)

Why would Magnus' friend, and a fellow survivor, work with a German soldier, a German soldier, when she was raped as a child by German soldiers, when Magnus and Xavier saved her mind and life? Why would Haller help anyone, I don't care for what reason, capture Magnus? Moreover, she knew the plan called for shooting Magneto in the head, for ambushing him, how could she not suspect that Magneto was in danger of his life?

Haller knew Magnus' Israeli history. The only reason I can see is, the one thing more important to her than her loyalty to Magnus, was her loyalty to her country, Israel. Her dedication to Xavier is a high priority, as well, but even with Xavier, I would say she would protect Israel first, if she had to make a choice. She had to distance Magneto the world's most feared terrorist, from Israel. She had to make sure no one found out about his time with Mossad.

If you look carefully at X-MEN #72, when Sabra brings the file to Gabrielle Haller, it's the forger Georg Odekirk's file! Not Magneto's file. Haller goes through the typed reports in that file, and comes upon something that says Georg Odekirk created the false identity of "Erik Lehnsherr the Sinti Gypsy" for Magneto. The entry about Magneto is like a footnote in Georg Odekirk's career! This is also a Mossad file, that Sabra has secretely taken. Because she is also a member of Xavier's Underground, and a sworn enemy of Magneto.

Thus, this file was in Mossad's archives for years, and this means that someone or some of the men at Mossad knew for years about their operative "Magneto's" identity. In the first few decades after WWII, most of Mossad's members were Holocaust survivors, or men and women who had escaped to Palestine before 1938 and had family members who were killed. I wouldn't doubt that there were members of Mossad who knew Magnus and totally covered up for him, especially if he were a fellow survivor of the Sonderkommando. Not only for that reason, but because Magnus was a Mossad operative for years.

It was very convenient for them, for the Israeli government, for Magneto's oldest acquaintances who might have known him as Max, for Gabrielle Haller herself, to put out disinformation about Magneto in order to create distance. Moreover, Haller might have been doing it to HELP Magneto. Perhaps she knew he wanted his birth name and any information about his early years, kept secret, and maybe she was trying to help him!

Her reaction to Sabra when the latter presented her with the news and the file, was a sort-of surprised "What?!" Her next reaction was, to ask Sabra: "You must take me to him! [Odekirk] He could be our only link to Magneto's true identity ... our last chance to stop him once and for all!"

Well, fans for years have pointed out, what the heck did Gabby mean by that? How would talking to Odekirk yield any solid information? Why would he tell her the truth? And, even if he did, and he new the truth, why would knowing Magneto's birth name and family background, help "stop him once and for all"?

The answer is, it wouldn't. So, why then did Gabby want to be taken immediately to Georg Odekirk? Because she knew that she had lied, and used the Mossad files herself to create a diversion. She wanted to find Odekirk first, to do damage control, before Sabra went off the deep end. She wanted to control the interview, and the situation.

One wonders how Magneto knew Sabra had found him out. I would guess either (1) he still has old fellow survivors who tell him things, or (2) he has all kinds of high tech intelligence planted with all the world's police and intelligence services, and Mossad would have been the easiest for Magneto to infiltrate, as a former operative.

[Mikl C]

She'd be muchos old now.
Unless!

She froze in a BLOCK OF ICE!

[Rivka]

She'd be muhcos old now.
Unless!

She froze in a BLOCK OF ICE!

Maybe the High Evolutionary found her, and is keeping this info from everyone. Maybe he has her in stasis.

Might be very interesting considering Magneto is presently working with the High Evolutionary. I wonder what Magneto's attitude would be, and what he would do, if he found out Wyndham had been hiding Magda's body, either dead or in stasis, all these years?

Has there ever been an out and out fight between Magneto and the High Evolutionary? Once Mags got his powers back. Would Pietro join his father for once, give that he too would be fairly upset that the H.E. knew about his birth mother all these years?

Also, Sinister might have gotten to Magda first, too. News of what really happened in Vinnitsa would not have escaped Essex's attention, despite the public cover up (saying that the damage was due to old WWII battles or old ordinance that exploded, or whatever). Essex could have wisely determined that the real genetic treasure he needed to track was Magda, she of the powerful recessive genes that determined Wanda's power set. Essex moves in more subtle directions than just grabbing and capturing the most powerful mutants, although he's done that too. He's interested in the genetic lines, the way genes combine, and how he can get more and more powerful mutants.

[Gnarl]

Maybe the High Evolutionary found her, and is keeping this info from everyone. Maybe he has her in stasis.

Might be very interesting considering Magneto is presently working with the High Evolutionary. I wonder what Magneto's attitude would be, and what he would do, if he found out Wyndham had been hiding Magda's body, either dead or in stasis, all these years?

Has there ever been an out and out fight between Magneto and the High Evolutionary? Once Mags got his powers back. Would Pietro join his father for once, give that he too would be fairly upset that the H.E. knew about his birth mother all these years?

Also, Sinister might have gotten to Magda first, too. News of what really happened in Vinnitsa would not have escaped Essex's attention, despite the public cover up (saying that the damage was due to old WWII battles or old ordinance that exploded, or whatever). Essex could have wisely determined that the real genetic treasure he needed to track was Magda, she of the powerful recessive genes that determined Wanda's power set. Essex moves in more subtle directions than just grabbing and capturing the most powerful mutants, although he's done that too. He's interested in the genetic lines, the way genes combine, and how he can get more and more powerful mutants.

I think it would be more reasonable to assume Chton took her. He was on the site, interfering with Wanda -changing her mutant powers according to one source- it seems reasonable that he'd want to keep her as a bargaining chip or insurance. Both he and Wyndham were at the site, but Chton was interested.

A magical abduction also would explain why Magneto found the trail ended there with neither hide nor hair ever seen of her again.

Of course there is also the possibility that Wyndham instructed Bova to lie about what happened. A lie is harder to keep straight thatn the truth. Much of that night is up in the air if Bova can't be trusted.

As to Sinister, Occams Razor says we shouldn't involve him without evidence. Marvels complicates too much with his retroactive involvement anyway.

I cannot remember any Magneto/HE fights. The High Evolutionary is so much up and down in the power scales that I don't think it could be judged from previous showings. At his best, Magneto can be squashed like a bug.
Not to mention that his particular power set includes power over evolution, something Homo Superior should be vary of.

However...if Wyndham choses to call it in, he has a very large debt on Magneto. He took in Magda, and sheltered her when she was dying from the cold, fed her, saw to the safe delivery of her babies...Magneto owes him big.

No matter if Magnus resents him paying so little attention that Magda walked out into the winter again without him noticing (or caring)

[Rivka]

I think it would be more reasonable to assume Chton took her. He was on the site, interfering with Wanda -changing her mutant powers according to one source- it seems reasonable that he'd want to keep her as a bargaining chip or insurance. Both he and Wyndham were at the site, but Chton was interested.

A magical abduction also would explain why Magneto found the trail ended there with neither hide nor hair ever seen of her again.

Of course there is also the possibility that Wyndham instructed Bova to lie about what happened. A lie is harder to keep straight thatn the truth. Much of that night is up in the air if Bova can't be trusted.

As to Sinister, Occams Razor says we shouldn't involve him without evidence. Marvels complicates too much with his retroactive involvement anyway.

I cannot remember any Magneto/HE fights. The High Evolutionary is so much up and down in the power scales that I don't think it could be judged from previous showings. At his best, Magneto can be squashed like a bug.
Not to mention that his particular power set includes power over evolution, something Homo Superior should be vary of.

However...if Wyndham choses to call it in, he has a very large debt on Magneto. He took in Magda, and sheltered her when she was dying from the cold, fed her, saw to the safe delivery of her babies...Magneto owes him big.

No matter if Magnus resents him paying so little attention that Magda walked out into the winter again without him noticing (or caring)

I agree again. Good post!

(Especially about the Sinister part. Oh yeah, let's keep Sinister as far away as possible.)

[Gnarl]

One wonders how Magneto knew Sabra had found him out. I would guess either (1) he still has old fellow survivors who tell him things, or (2) he has all kinds of high tech intelligence planted with all the world's police and intelligence services, and Mossad would have been the easiest for Magneto to infiltrate, as a former operative.

Or (3) that wasn't Magneto. A shapeshifter or LMD maybe. Why would Magneto want or need to kill Odekirk? What does it matter to him if his original name becomes known? Why would Odekirk know it anyway? He hardly needed to know it to give him forged papers.

Mossad, on the other hand, had plenty of reason to cut anything that could expose their involvement with Magneto. Faking it as a Magneto kill means no extra investigation.

[Gnarl]

The thing about the Chton abduction is...I don't think Magdas survival would make for a good story. She works much better as Magnus lost love and emotional scar.

However, it does make considerable sense for Chton to keep her. And he is a planner. We are in the unusual situation that her returning from the dead makes sense, but would be a poor story. (Normally it is the other way around, with characters returning from the dead for the sake of a single good story)

The person Magnus has had the most contact with who has magical powers and might have noticed such a snatch or Chton-taint if in the right place is Illyana. But Illyanas powers comes from...the Elder Gods!

[Gnarl]

Maybe the High Evolutionary found her, and is keeping this info from everyone. Maybe he has her in stasis.

Might be very interesting considering Magneto is presently working with the High Evolutionary. I wonder what Magneto's attitude would be, and what he would do, if he found out Wyndham had been hiding Magda's body, either dead or in stasis, all these years?

Has there ever been an out and out fight between Magneto and the High Evolutionary? Once Mags got his powers back. Would Pietro join his father for once, give that he too would be fairly upset that the H.E. knew about his birth mother all these years?

Also, Sinister might have gotten to Magda first, too. News of what really happened in Vinnitsa would not have escaped Essex's attention, despite the public cover up (saying that the damage was due to old WWII battles or old ordinance that exploded, or whatever). Essex could have wisely determined that the real genetic treasure he needed to track was Magda, she of the powerful recessive genes that determined Wanda's power set. Essex moves in more subtle directions than just grabbing and capturing the most powerful mutants, although he's done that too. He's interested in the genetic lines, the way genes combine, and how he can get more and more powerful mutants.

I think it would be more reasonable to assume Chton took her. He was on the site, interfering with Wanda -changing her mutant powers according to one source- it seems reasonable that he'd want to keep her as a bargaining chip or insurance. Both he and Wyndham were at the site, but Chton was interested.

A magical abduction also would explain why Magneto found the trail ended there with neither hide nor hair ever seen of her.

Of course there is also the possibility that Wyndham instructed Bova to lie about what happened. A lie is harder to keep straight thatn the truth. Much of that night is up in the air if Bova can't be trusted.

As to Sinister, Occams Razor says we shouldn't involve him without evidence. Marvels complicates too much with his retroactive involvement anyway.

I cannot remember any Magneto/HE fights. The High Evolutionary is so much up and down in the power scales that I don't think it could be judged from previous showings. At his best, Magneto can be squashed like a bug.
Not to mention that his particular power set includes power over evolution, something Homo Superior should be vary of.

However...if Wyndham choses to call it in, he has a very large debt on Magneto. He took in Magda, and sheltered her when she was dying from the cold, fed her, saw to the safe delivery of her babies...Magneto owes him big.

No matter if Magnus resents him paying so little attention that Magda walked out into the winter again without him noticing (or caring)

[david r]

Wow, this thread is highly interesting. Rivka, I read your detailed posts in the Magnus Family thread, and wish you and everyone a big "Thank You" for answering my question! I get the impression Magda is quite likely still alive, but hiding from the world. My gut feeling is it's probably better Magda NOT return to comics, as her story is a constant memory for Magneto and drives the man.

I wonder if Magda travelled from the Ukraine to Wundagore Mountain because she *sensed* her children might be "monsters" like her husband. Being fearful of the outcome, Magda made the journey to people with knowledge could take care (or even adopt) the children if they indeed were birthed as mutants. Once the children were born, Magda may have fled in terror of what she'd done (or even insanity by that point.)

[Rivka]

Wow, this thread is highly interesting. Rivka, I read your detailed posts in the Magnus Family thread, and wish you and everyone a big "Thank You" for answering my question! I get the impression Magda is quite likely still alive, but hiding from the world. My gut feeling is it's probably better Magda NOT return to comics, as her story is a constant memory for Magneto and drives the man.

I wonder if Magda travelled from the Ukraine to Wundagore Mountain because she *sensed* her children might be "monsters" like her husband. Being fearful of the outcome, Magda made the journey to people with knowledge could take care (or even adopt) the children if they indeed were birthed as mutants. Once the children were born, Magda may have fled in terror of what she'd done (or even insanity by that point.)

I think Gnarl pretty much nailed all this. And I think we all agree, it's best not to bring Magda back in present continuity, at least for the foreseeable future.

And yeah, I wonder if Magda was subconsciously afraid that the children of her beloved husband who had just turned into a "monster" would become "monsters" as well. On the other hand, as several people have pointed out, she showed no evidence of prejudice or fear of the New Men, the Knights of Wundagore (the animal men and women created by the H.E.), or of Bova, once she got over her initial shock of meeting Sir Gote. Magda seems to have been a very sweet and gentle lady, (and a lot of Wanda's nature comes from her, I'd say).

I don't think she went "insane" in the clinical sense. But being overwhelmed with flashbacks of the past, with fear and memories of Auschwitz, and Anya's death, as well as the transformation of Max, her childhood sweetheart, her savior, who had rescued her from Auschwitz, into some kind of "monster" -- was too much for her. It would have been too much for anyone. Add to that, the bizarre world she found herself in, with Bova the talking cow, and the New Men, as well as postpartum depression and even psychosis from the difficult birth, and I think we can explain why Magda ran away and abandoned her babies.

Now, what happened to her afterwards is interesting to me, because as Gnarl said, did Chthon have something to do with her disappearance? As soon as she had calmed down, and her body's hormones had settled down, did she suddenly regret what she had done, and want to return to reclaim her babies? If she survived after running from Bova's cottage, did she try to get back to Mt. Wundagore and find her children? To whose advantage would it have been, to keep her from her children?

Not only Chthon, but in the Mystic Arcana SCARLET WITCH, we see that the most powerful Roma witches in the world had prophesied Wanda's coming and her power, and were ever watchful of the danger of Chthon. Could they have done everything in their power to keep Magda from reclaiming her baby girl, in order to make sure Wanda and Pietro were placed with the Maximoffs at the right time in history?

Just speculation.

But whatever Marvel chooses as the story, one day, I only hope it's done with respect for the canon, and for Magnus and Magda as characters. Especially Magneto of course; remembering he couldn't help what happened when his powers exploded. And the whole story of Magnus and Magda is a tragedy of major proportions.