View Full Version : Is Xavier a skrull?
Lordmagnusrex
09-15-2008, 05:56 PM
Is Charles Xavier a skrull? Or worse? has he been for a very long time. Lets look at some of the ideas going on here. Charles has been dead and alive more times then Jean, twice in the old days before UXM 94 I think, and once since then, and a clone body madem then he went missing and they had a search for Xavier plot for a few months.
With the single exception of the clone body Sikorsky made for him on the Starjammer, the circumstantial evidence points toward a big chinned green Chuck Xavier.
Here's my theory, first, at some point Charles had to be human. He did. I grant that, But ever since the New X-Men showed up, Charles has shown an unhealthy interest in space for a guy who's trying to foster unity and coexistence here on earth. So he suddenly has this Shi'ar girlfriend from lightyears away, wouldn't that be the ultimate caveate for a skrull? to get a spy in on the Shi'ar royal family?
But at some point the switch had to be made back or he hasn't been a skrull yet, , because when the brood nearly takes him over, He's suddenly cloned as a human. Ok, So now we have this Human/mutant lover of the Majestrix Shi'ar who as part of the illuminati fall into their hands. At that point, sometime AFTER the clone body and the return to earth, the stage is set for Charles to be switched when the Skrulls captured the Illuminati. And soon after this skrull is able to foster unrest in the Shi'ar empire to the point a civil war occurs, destroy the X-men and force them into fractured disagreeing teams, influence the Illuminati into falling, and setting the stage for the X-men to be conveniently absent from the Civil war where they can do the most damage.
I would even be willing to argue this sudden 3rd summers brother may be a part of the entire skrull exchange. At any rate, if any of the illuminati are skrull, Charles is a prime candidate.
The Black Guardian
09-15-2008, 06:18 PM
No, Xavier is not a Skrull. 'Nuff said. We already know who all the Skrulls are.
Sadly, Vulcan is not a Skrull either.
Beast
09-15-2008, 06:28 PM
No, Xavier is not a Skrull. 'Nuff said. We already know who all the Skrulls are.
Sadly, Vulcan is not a Skrull either.
What TBG said. Xavier being a skrull wouldn't make a lick of sense in any way, shape, or form.
justinkos91
09-15-2008, 06:32 PM
He looks more like Billy Corgan here :tongue:
http://i.newsarama.com/preview_images/marvelnew/sept08/xmen216cov_col.jpg
Rivka
09-15-2008, 07:37 PM
So, Emma Frost is the skrull? I can live with that.
He looks more like Billy Corgan here :tongue:
http://i.newsarama.com/preview_images/marvelnew/sept08/xmen216cov_col.jpg
mcgaffer
09-15-2008, 07:41 PM
I did originally think that Xavier could be a Skrull. He was the leader of Kadre K. And who knows what happened up there in space. Also how does Xavier go from leading Kadre K to not recognising a Skrull mind ala. Black Bolt.
mcgaffer
09-15-2008, 07:44 PM
Just remembered, Xavier tried to stop Galactus from devouring the Skrull homeworld by taking the minds of all the Skrulls and directing their thoughts into Galactus's mind. He has to recognise a Skrull mind when he comes across it. To say otherwise is to either say that the Skrulls are capable of greater telepathy then Earth's mightiest mind or crappy writing strikes again.
LawGiver
09-15-2008, 07:45 PM
Mike Carey has said no X-Men are Skrulls and Cyclops provides a pretty simple, logical explanation in Secret Invasion : X-Men #2 as to why this is.
justinkos91
09-15-2008, 10:13 PM
Mike Carey has said no X-Men are Skrulls and Cyclops provides a pretty simple, logical explanation in Secret Invasion : X-Men #2 as to why this is.
and why is that?
(X-men: Secret Invasion always sells out where I live, can't get a copy anywhere :frown: )
Flinkman
09-15-2008, 10:19 PM
and why is that?
(X-men: Secret Invasion always sells out where I live, can't get a copy anywhere :frown: )
if the Skrulls had someone in the X-Men camp, they'd have known they were in San Francisco & wouldn't have been caught off guard by their presence.
justinkos91
09-15-2008, 10:20 PM
if the Skrulls had someone in the X-Men camp, they'd have known they were in San Francisco & wouldn't have been caught off guard by their presence.
Thanks :smile:
nikbackm
09-15-2008, 10:51 PM
if the Skrulls had someone in the X-Men camp, they'd have known they were in San Francisco & wouldn't have been caught off guard by their presence.
Not necessarily. The skrull spy might just be as (in)competent at reporting back as Sage was when she was undercover in the Hellfire club.
justinkos91
09-16-2008, 05:04 PM
So, Emma Frost is the skrull? I can live with that.
I can most definitely do without Emma Frost
She's part of the reason Cyclops sucks balls
Kage Kisaragi
09-16-2008, 10:34 PM
Hasn't it been reiterated numerous times that the Skrull imposter's have undergone a new type of shape shifting in terms of becoming their alternate identities. They have become their replacements so thoroughly that they actually think just like them and can only be brought out of the thought pattern by a special trigger word unique to each individual?
Bingo!
09-16-2008, 10:48 PM
Hasn't it been reiterated numerous times that the Skrull imposter's have undergone a new type of shape shifting in terms of becoming their alternate identities. They have become their replacements so thoroughly that they actually think just like them and can only be brought out of the thought pattern by a special trigger word unique to each individual?
This is true.
Some Skrulls, like Captain Marvel, underwent a process that so thoroughly imprinted the subject onto them that they could not distinguish their true identity from the subject's. The trigger you speak of was ineffectual for Marvel, and he was considered broken by the Skrull empire.
With all that said, I truly hope future X-book writers do not play with that possibility.
LawGiver
09-17-2008, 07:56 AM
There is no X-Skrull.
Not one.
Valeria Kementari
09-17-2008, 03:28 PM
There is no X-Skrull.
Not one.
Yes there is, his name is Fiz, leader of Cadre-K, he was an honorary X-Man so we can all say he's an X-Skrull :D
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/thumb/c/cb/Fiz_X-Mannen_nr_115.jpg/200px-Fiz_X-Mannen_nr_115.jpg
HotWire
10-01-2008, 05:59 AM
If xavier come back (some day) the other who died by a shot in the head (great acquier bishop) must be a skrull who try to disband the x-men, this is the only way to explain the come back of wheel man
Sentinel K
10-01-2008, 06:19 AM
If xavier come back (some day) the other who died by a shot in the head (great acquier bishop) must be a skrull who try to disband the x-men, this is the only way to explain the come back of wheel man
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The Sword Is Drawn
10-01-2008, 06:24 AM
So, Emma Frost is the skrull? I can live with that.
You see Emma being a Skrull would actually make some sense. It explains some of the distinctive changes in character during Morrison's New X-Men, for starters. And here we have a character who wormed her way into the mansion, split up the longest standing (And future doubtless leaders) of the X-Men, deposing the two Psis who could have picked up on her being a Skrull, and forced herself to the top of the pile.
If that doesn't scream infiltrator, what does?
But no, she isn't either. Marvel just don't have the balls to pull a stunt like that, anymore.
If xavier come back (some day) the other who died by a shot in the head (great acquier bishop) must be a skrull who try to disband the x-men, this is the only way to explain the come back of wheel man
Read Legacy. It will tell you a lot about Xavier.
Sentinel K
10-01-2008, 06:28 AM
You see Emma being a Skrull would actually make some sense. It explains some of the distinctive changes in character during Morrison's New X-Men, for starters. And here we have a character who wormed her way into the mansion, split up the longest standing (And future doubtless leaders) of the X-Men, deposing the two Psis who could have picked up on her being a Skrull, and forced herself to the top of the pile.
If that doesn't scream infiltrator, what does?
But no, she isn't either. Marvel just don't have the balls to pull a stunt like that, anymore.
Emma has become too much of a popular character for them to retcon it all away.
The Sword Is Drawn
10-01-2008, 06:59 AM
Emma has become too much of a popular character for them to retcon it all away.
Sadly, yes. I was actually a big fan of Frost before Morrison. The character has become something she was never intended to be - to look at her now you can't match the character with her Hellfire villain persona or with her Generation X persona. She's more or less become Jean Grey light. And the constant telling us every issue "How happy Emma and Scott are!" is getting beyond tedious at the moment.
I'm interested in Emma Frost who keeps people at a distance and treats them like shit. She doesn't live here anymore.
Revealing Emma as a mole for somebody else is the only real direction for the character long term.
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