Death of Big Barda!!

[theNighteye]

What does everyone think of the death of Big Barda in Death of the New Gods? Personally i really like her as a character so would everyone like to see her back?

[Shellhead]

I liked Big Barda, but when she and Wonder Woman were both in the Justice League during the Morrison years, it seemed redundant.

[ashez2ashes]

Her death was pretty lame. She was a warrior who deserved a warrior's death, not sprawled on her kitchen floor next to a bag of groceries like someone had just taken out Aunt Bee from Andy Griffith.

[jdwrocks]

What does everyone think of the death of Big Barda in Death of the New Gods? Personally i really like her as a character so would everyone like to see her back?

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Yes it was lame. But it seems Final Crisis will bring about a Fifth world of New Gods. So we'll probably see some incarnation of her again.

[carabas]

Given that there is something odd going on with Scott Free (it seems he does not exist right now, at least Shiloh Norman has never heard of him) him and Barda may not even be dead at all.
Don't expect anything from countdown or Death o/t New Gods to stick.

[Samuraixsithlord]

Given that there is something odd going on with Scott Free (it seems he does not exist right now, at least Shiloh Norman has never heard of him) him and Barda may not even be dead at all.
Don't expect anything from countdown or Death o/t New Gods to stick.

I expect Scott Free's soul is in Shilo's body. Shilo said something about crawling his way out of the grave or something like that in FC #3. So i expect we'll see a fifth world incarnation of Scott Free sometime in the future.

Perhaps They're sharing the same body. The Gods of Apokalips act like parasites. Their souls take over human bodies and eventually wear them out, while The Gods of New Genesis do the opposite, the revitalize their hosts in a sort of symbiotic relationship.

I've also got a strange hunch that the Soul of Orion is hiding in Sonny Sumo. He did say that Shilo looked familiar when they first met, and he did say he remembers Motherboxx.

Plus there is the rumor that Metron soul is hiding in Barry Allen and that's why he came back?

[carabas]

I expect Scott Free's soul is in Shilo's body. Shilo said something about crawling his way out of the grave or something like that in FC #3. So i expect we'll see a fifth world incarnation of Scott Free sometime in the future.That does not explain why he does not remember Scott free being his mentor.

I've also got a strange hunch that the Soul of Orion is hiding in Sonny Sumo. He did say that Shilo looked familiar when they first met, and he did say he remembers Motherboxx.Well, Sonny Sumo has been around New Gods before, and this isn't the first Mother Box he's seen.

Plus there is the rumor that Metron soul is hiding in Barry Allen and that's why he came back? Na. IIRC, Morrison has flatout said that Metron wasn't killed with the rest of the New Genesis gods because he stricktly speaking is not one of them. Hes is something else. Neutral.

[Samuraixsithlord]

That does not explain why he does not remember Scott free being his mentor.

Were did it say this at? i didn't see that in FC?

Well, Sonny Sumo has been around New Gods before, and this isn't the first Mother Box he's seen.

Alot of other things clued me in also. When that guy called him a coward in the bar in Japan. Sonny ripped his heart out. Which would be something that Orion would do if you called him a coward. Plus the fact that Motherboxx led Shilo to Sonny so he could start a "team" which now consists of the the Super Young team who are obviously the Forever People.

Na. IIRC, Morrison has flatout said that Metron wasn't killed with the rest of the New Genesis gods because he stricktly speaking is not one of them. Hes is something else. Neutral.

forgot about that. hmmmm maybe Lightray is inside Berry?

[JCAll]

Barda made the fatal mistake of getting to involved with the JLI. Even if they do bring the New Gods back in full during Final Crisis, she's going to be the first lined up as cannon fodder.

It's inevitable.

[K-DoG7p7]

I hate people that whine about Big barda and Knockout beeing dead..
EVERY NEW GOD HAD TO DIE! it had nothing to do with the indevidual characters..
it was their entier freaking race! ...

Barda died like almost every other New god.. unexpectedly.. and quick..
Knockout got a little more.. but she was still killed off withtout any real fight..
because it would pe pointless..



Also theyll be back..

[Samuraixsithlord]

I wonder if or when Knockout will come back, if she'll be considered a god of new genesis or apokalips.

She was from Apokalips, but she did find love and all that other stuff.

[Sean Walsh]

I wonder if or when Knockout will come back, if she'll be considered a god of new genesis or apokalips.

She was from Apokalips, but she did find love and all that other stuff.

It almost seems better for her to stay dead, so as to give Scandal "other-worldly" inspiration (as we saw in SECRET SIX #1)...

[Sean Walsh]

..........still holding out hope that my "Scott & Barda are brought back, by Darkseid, as humans, and have to find a way to live with themselves as a result" idea magically forms in the mind of a good comic writer and becomes an ongoing best-selling series.

But considering that of all the sketches JG Jones has done of the new New Gods, Scott & Barda were very noticable in their absence, I think there's something up with them and their status in the DCU....

[HaroldAllnut]

Her death was pretty lame. She was a warrior who deserved a warrior's death, not sprawled on her kitchen floor next to a bag of groceries like someone had just taken out Aunt Bee from Andy Griffith.

Heh. Sad but true. Sick burn.

Her death kind of struck me as Sue Dibny-esque, but nowhere near as tragically laid out.

[fly on the wall]

That does not explain why he does not remember Scott free being his mentor.

Well, Sonny Sumo has been around New Gods before, and this isn't the first Mother Box he's seen.

Na. IIRC, Morrison has flatout said that Metron wasn't killed with the rest of the New Genesis gods because he stricktly speaking is not one of them. Hes is something else. Neutral.

Are you talking about what happened in the very recent Death of the New Gods comic book? Because Metron was killed along with the New Genesis gods, they showed the bloody corpse.

Maybe Morrison was talking about something else.

So far, Death of the New Gods was a better comic book than Final Crisis. It had a meaningful goal which was to knock off the New Gods one by one..

[fly on the wall]

I hate people that whine about Big barda and Knockout beeing dead..
EVERY NEW GOD HAD TO DIE! it had nothing to do with the indevidual characters..
it was their entier freaking race! ...

Barda died like almost every other New god.. unexpectedly.. and quick..
Knockout got a little more.. but she was still killed off withtout any real fight..
because it would pe pointless..



Also theyll be back..

Some have already come back and got killed again.

If Sonny Sumo has the twice dead Orion inside of him this would be stupid enough for the story as tepid and mushy as Morrison's Final Crisis.

[fly on the wall]

Heh. Sad but true. Sick burn.

Her death kind of struck me as Sue Dibny-esque, but nowhere near as tragically laid out.

You mean because Barda wasn't all burned up and pregnant?

[princesa]

Her death was pretty lame. She was a warrior who deserved a warrior's death, not sprawled on her kitchen floor next to a bag of groceries like someone had just taken out Aunt Bee from Andy Griffith.


Lol, that is today's winner:tongue:

[Black Vespa]

Her death was pretty lame. She was a warrior who deserved a warrior's death, not sprawled on her kitchen floor next to a bag of groceries like someone had just taken out Aunt Bee from Andy Griffith.


lol - now that's an AWESOME analogy. hahaha. thanks man.

[CBikle]

Are you talking about what happened in the very recent Death of the New Gods comic book? Because Metron was killed along with the New Genesis gods, they showed the bloody corpse.

Maybe Morrison was talking about something else.

Death Of The New Gods and Countdown have been dismissed as not quite being in continuity (although there have been rumors that FC is being rewritten to mesh with them, which is too bad, because they suck).


So far, Death of the New Gods was a better comic book than Final Crisis. It had a meaningful goal which was to knock off the New Gods one by one..

Wha !?! No, no, no. DotNG's "goals" were to squeeze out another mini to compete with Marvel's Secret Invasion/ WW Hulk stuff and to set the stage for DC's future "repackaging" of the New Gods. the New Gods.

If you read Newsarama's interview with Starlin, he pretty much says that DotNG was just a business move that DC wanted to make.

[JCAll]

Na. IIRC, Morrison has flatout said that Metron wasn't killed with the rest of the New Genesis gods because he stricktly speaking is not one of them. Hes is something else. Neutral.

Well damn. Metron had the only really good death in that year long mess of killing all the New Gods.
"I never thought I would hear myself say this, but I think I've seen enough."

[Samuraixsithlord]

It almost seems better for her to stay dead, so as to give Scandal "other-worldly" inspiration (as we saw in SECRET SIX #1)...

maybe Knockout's soul is inside Scandal?

[Sean Walsh]

maybe Knockout's soul is inside Scandal?

Or perhaps, like a good math equation, two negatives (Scandal x Knockout) equal a positive (true love)?

[Ravenstone]

The Death of the New Gods was nothing but a sick, twisted snuff comic, with no more to recommend it than the grotesque films it was based on. There was no reason to produce this abyssmal mini-series, other than to tarnish Jack Kirby's legacy and to admit that DC's so-called "creators" are now, officially, creatively bankrupt. When the best "new idea" you can come up with is killing a bunch of characters in a pointless, nonsensical, badly-written "story," then it's time to pack up your toys and go home. It's sad, as Jim Starlin is an extremely talented storyteller, and could have done far, far more with Kirby's creations than simply take a big steaming dump on them like this.

Death seems to be the new watchword at DC. Blue Beetle, Martian Manhunter, the New Gods... the list goes on and on. I can just imagine Dan Didio's To Do List: "Kill a character. Eat Lunch. Destroy DC Universe forever." Nice. What DC is doing now is akin to spray-painting graffiti on the Mona LIsa: it's ugly, it doesn't take any talent, and it denies future generations from obtaining any kind of pleasure from the work you've thoughtlessly obliterated. No wonder comics fans are a rapidly shrinking market.

[rogerio]

Her death was pretty lame. She was a warrior who deserved a warrior's death, not sprawled on her kitchen floor next to a bag of groceries like someone had just taken out Aunt Bee from Andy Griffith.

Barda is a interesting character. I really hope she come back to the world of the living ones...:smile:

[Etta Candy]

Barda is a interesting character. I really hope she come back to the world of the living ones...:smile:

I agree she was one of the few interesting New Gods I liked