Does the Fate of the GLC bother you? Spoilers

[Captain Smith]

In Wizard, it is stated that by the 31st century there is only one GL and one guardian - who isn't a guardian.

That's a modification of way back when as the GLC was wiped out by Hal and only Kyle was around and when visited the future, OA was destroyed, etc. Also, it contained the element of the GLC existing but being banned from Earth space because, blah, blah - old history.

So in this new upcoming Legion story - there's supposedly no GLC or Guardians. So why should one care about the current GLC story if they get wiped out again.

Since I think the GLC story line is one of best in the current crop of DCU tales, I find it disturbing they get nailed again.

[titanfan]

So in this new upcoming Legion story - there's supposedly no GLC or Guardians. So why should one care about the current GLC story if they get wiped out again.

One day, Earth will be destroyed too (or at least be too inhospitable to live). Doesn't mean I don't care about the planet in the here and now.

[Kelson]

So in this new upcoming Legion story - there's supposedly no GLC or Guardians. So why should one care about the current GLC story if they get wiped out again.

There's no JLA in the Legion's time either (not counting the bad guys in the recent storyline), and today's JLA members are all dead. Should we not care about current JLA, Batman, etc. stories for this reason?

[Shellhead]

In other news, I have heard that Bruce Wayne is no longer alive in the 31st Century. [shakes fist at Didio]

[Captain Smith]

Not my point. The GLC is an organization with a long term history and the Guardians are 'immortal'. If we know that in a 1000 years, they don't exist - I think it weakens current story lines because the GLC is not just about an individual.

[Kid Kyoto]

In other news, I have heard that Bruce Wayne is no longer alive in the 31st Century. [shakes fist at Didio]

Disbelieve.

Generations clearly established he is around in the 31st C.:biggrin:

[Mat001]

Actually, this was established long before "Emerald Twilight" happened. Back during 70's or 80's, we found out in the pages of Legion that the GLC were gone. All that was left was Rond Vidar, who was the last GL in the 30th century. All Johns is doing is revisiting this character and revealing that there is another. He's been making connections to Alan Moore's annual story and the old Legion stories from that time period.

[Captain Smith]

That actually depends on continuity - the GLC existing and being banned from Earth was also a story line. The Guardians existed also.

My point is that knowing the Corps and Guardians have a finite fate (again) isn't my cup of tea. Redoing this idea is a bad one.

[LordEd1976]

All Johns is doing is revisiting this character and revealing that there is another.

Leia???????

[Mat001]

That actually depends on continuity - the GLC existing and being banned from Earth was also a story line. The Guardians existed also.

My point is that knowing the Corps and Guardians have a finite fate (again) isn't my cup of tea. Redoing this idea is a bad one.

Well, it's in the future and not the present.

[Blueferret]

Leia???????

Awesome:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[Lupek]

You may want to stay away from reading Kamandi, Last Boy on Earth.




:wink:

[Walter West]

For all we know, the Lanterns were amalgamated and the colour scheme is gone. There might be white lanterns, ultraviolet lanterns, infrared lanterns, or secret lanterns. It is what the writers say it is, not an absolute. For that matter, Superboy-Prime could punch reality again and the lanterns would all appear. :biggrin:

[DonC]

If they were destroying the Corps next week, I might be a little bothered. I really like their book. However, since DC has about 1,000 years between now and when LSH is now, I'm not going to let it bug me.

Besides, the single GL idea was probably created because the Legion serve the same purpose the Corps does and DC wanted the spotlight on the Legion.

[Mat001]

For all we know, the Lanterns were amalgamated and the colour scheme is gone. There might be white lanterns, ultraviolet lanterns, infrared lanterns, or secret lanterns.

Given what's been said about Rainbow Girl's powers in Action Comics #862, I'm thinking there's some truth to it.

[titanfan]

You may want to stay away from reading Kamandi, Last Boy on Earth.

Fortunately we know that was just a lousy alternate Earth created via a horrible Countdown storyline.

[MutoMikey]

I know it's probably not going to be the one and only future for the DCU so it doesn't really bother me. It does intrigue me though.

[MutoMikey]

Fortunately we know that was just a lousy alternate Earth created via a horrible Countdown storyline.


Wait, I though Kamandi existed BEFORE Countdown? Plus, I enjoyed those two issues of Countdown. They felt kinda creepy.

[the_simurgh]

depends on the timeline. in one legion the glc was dead and gone. in the reboot legion they alluded to the fact that the green lanterns were not allowed in the milky way because of the united planets.

[Captain Smith]

Yep, my point was the current previews implied they are gone again. Personally, I don't think the Legion is worth enough to the DCU to remove the GLC as players later. It's just so they can have the 'last' GL screw around in a story or two.

I also think that it alters one's view of the current GLC story lines to know that they are gone as an organization.

[Joe Grendel]

I don't think the Legion is worth enough to the DCU to remove the GLC as players later.
Given the amount of fan enthusiasm for the LSH -- count the number of Archive Editions for the LSH versus the Archives for Hal Jordan and company -- I think you may be outnumbered here.

It's just so they can have the 'last' GL screw around in a story or two.
Or it's so they can tell an interesting story looking at what it means to be a Lantern without the huge support network available, and when the big team of heavy-hitters aren't Lanterns and aren't even necessarily sympathetic to you.

I also think that it alters one's view of the current GLC story lines to know that they are gone as an organization.
Perhaps, but lots of great stories work off just that sort of premise. I don't think that "Romeo & Juliet" would be better if the couple somehow miraculously escaped. Neither would "Julius Caesar" be improved by the knowledge that Rome would never fall.

The Silver Age Green Lantern saga has always had its roots in tragedy, with a seemingly flawless man inheriting the ring from a dying hero and then, over the decades, writers have started to pick away at the character and his support network, asking whether he's really perfect and would it really be a healthy thing if he were.

If anything, knowing that it all ends up in ruins is more fitting than pretending that 1) the GLC really hasn't been flawed from the beginning and 2) a thousand years can pass without significant changes, despite all the changes we've seen in the few decades since the GLC were first introduced.

Plus, Rond Vidar has always been the coolest Green Lantern.

[TotalWorldDomination]

I've alwase had a theory about this, but never voiced it for fear it was a little silly (but hey this is the internet, can't be the worst thing out there!).

So back in the day they said there was one gl in the universe by the 31st century.

Now Geoff Johns says there are 2 in the 31st century (not counting the non-guardian guardian).

that sound familar? Not too long ago each space sector had 1 protector. Then they moved it up to two. What if by the 31st century the guardians are no longer assigning 2 GL's to each sector... but to each Universe? Each universe in the multiverse gets 2 green lanterns to protect them from damage that might be done to destablize the multiverse, as the guardians have learned the lesson that big Corps just bring problems.

[Super Buddies Forever]

What I find amusing is that in all of this talk about the Blackest Night prophecy and that the GLC will be wiped out in the 31st century, we forget that, in comic book time, the current incarnation of the GLC have only been active for little over a year, having already been wiped out during the '90s.

[Quarterwolf]

I've alwase had a theory about this, but never voiced it for fear it was a little silly (but hey this is the internet, can't be the worst thing out there!).

So back in the day they said there was one gl in the universe by the 31st century.

Now Geoff Johns says there are 2 in the 31st century (not counting the non-guardian guardian).

that sound familar? Not too long ago each space sector had 1 protector. Then they moved it up to two. What if by the 31st century the guardians are no longer assigning 2 GL's to each sector... but to each Universe? Each universe in the multiverse gets 2 green lanterns to protect them from damage that might be done to destablize the multiverse, as the guardians have learned the lesson that big Corps just bring problems.

And the Guardians have now been replaced with Monitors.

[Ungenesis]

I don't see what everyone's so worked up about, on either side of the fence. It's the Legion we're talking about here. 5-10 years from now 'current continuity' will preclude the 'current future' from possibly happening, a few writers will try to rationalize everything and make it gel, possibly with a Crisis, and fail, and the 31st Century will be retconned - AGAIN - invalidating all stories from the past decade and replacing it with a new continuity based on the one from 20 years previous because the writers can't stand how characters have grown and developed away from the 'iconic' versions they remember and love.

And this is EXACTLY why I hate the Legion - all 3 of them.

[Captain Smith]

the current incarnation of the GLC have only been active for little over a year, having already been wiped out during the '90s.

I granted you that and remember that no one in the current DCU is more than a few years old. Even if they think they have history, their history has been reset over and over again.

So when you read in Countdown, that the so and so's have a million year history of blah, blah, in their universe - they are really some bug vomit from last year.

I simply like the context of the GLC as a large corp of Galactic policemen under the Guardians. So, I don't like it when it gets messed up. I don't like Superman not being the last son of Krypton but one of a mob of Kryptonians. So sue me.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Everything that has a beginning has an ending. There was a time in the DCU in which there was no Green Lantern Corps and there will be a time in which there isn't one. Given that the GLC's next demise is about a thousand years into the future, I don't see how it weakens anything as the Corps has never been established as being around for all time. Hell, even in the Silver Age Green Lantern comics, the Corps no longer existed in the 58th Century, which is why the Solar Council had to zap Hal Jordan from the past to serve as their champion. Did that "weaken" those comics? Of course not.

Plus, there's nothing to preclude the Green Lantern Corps from being reborn again at some later point in the distant future. Good ideas tend to be very hard to kill off.

[lazlo_toth]

Actually, this was established long before "Emerald Twilight" happened. Back during 70's or 80's, we found out in the pages of Legion that the GLC were gone. All that was left was Rond Vidar, who was the last GL in the 30th century. All Johns is doing is revisiting this character and revealing that there is another. He's been making connections to Alan Moore's annual story and the old Legion stories from that time period.

Not true. The Legion had several run-ins with the Corps during Levitz' run; Universo was a disgraced Lantern, his son (and honorary Legionnaire) Rond Vidar inherited the ring, and the Green Lanterns were actually banned from activities on Earth, a ban that the Guardians actually adhered to. I don't know where in the Legion it was ever stated that Rond was the "last" GL.

[joemagnum611]

In Wizard, it is stated that by the 31st century there is only one GL and one guardian - who isn't a guardian.

That's a modification of way back when as the GLC was wiped out by Hal and only Kyle was around and when visited the future, OA was destroyed, etc. Also, it contained the element of the GLC existing but being banned from Earth space because, blah, blah - old history.

So in this new upcoming Legion story - there's supposedly no GLC or Guardians. So why should one care about the current GLC story if they get wiped out again.

Since I think the GLC story line is one of best in the current crop of DCU tales, I find it disturbing they get nailed again.

Well in that future there's only on GL. There are alot of alternate futures that we don't know the fate of the GLC. Hell in the other 2 futures that the Legion comes from in the story I don't know if we know the fate of the Corps.

[IamtheRock3]

If they were destroying the Corps next week, I might be a little bothered. I really like their book. However, since DC has about 1,000 years between now and when LSH is now, I'm not going to let it bug me.

Besides, the single GL idea was probably created because the Legion serve the same purpose the Corps does and DC wanted the spotlight on the Legion.

and theres the real reason

[Sanagi]

Hell, even in the Silver Age Green Lantern comics, the Corps no longer existed in the 58th Century, which is why the Solar Council had to zap Hal Jordan from the past to serve as their champion. Did that "weaken" those comics? Of course not.
This is what I came into this thread to point out - the idea that the Green Lanterns' days are numbered has been around for a long time. Since before I started reading in, oh... 1985 or so?

[Bored at 3:00AM]

This is what I came into this thread to point out - the idea that the Green Lanterns' days are numbered has been around for a long time. Since before I started reading in, oh... 1985 or so?

Earlier than that. The Pol Manning & The Solar Council stories first appeared in 1961....a mere 3 years after the GLCorps was invented.