Deathstroke post Identity Crisis = Slade from the Teen Titans cartoon.

[frostedone]

It seems like after Identity Crisis Deathstroke has become a completely different character. No more code of honor, now he is just a ruthless, crazy powerful, villain mastermind. He reminds me a lot of his Teen Titans cartoon counter part. If you don't know what he was like on that show look us some clips on youtube.

Before ID. Crisis he was just a really really good mercenary, not a criminal mastermind.

Plus his voice on the cartoon was great. Ron Pearlman did a great job, and that is the voice I hear when I read comics with him in it. It is so menacing. Imaging having a normal conversation with him.

[Taskmaster]

I agree. It does seem like he's more like Slade from the cartoon and that's a shame. He's not that guy, he has his own code of honor and basically almost is a completely different character from the one seen in his own series. This is a guy that saved the world several times and Superman trusted to lead the army of heroes during Panic in the Sky, I can only hope we'll see the real Slade Wilson return and not this pale imitation seen ever since Identity Crisis

[the-wolf]

This topic has been discussed several times over, but I can't help but chime in again. DS no longer bears any resemblance at all to who he was in his own series.

And this version is nothing but a stock villain-of-the-week cardboard cut-out with no personality. He's LL with guns.

I demand that the merc with a unique and ambiguous honor code who took on jobs for the challenge and for personal reasons comes back. And they can bring back Wintergreen while they're at it. And keep them in their own little corner of DC.

[IamtheRock3]

wasnt he a bit of a bastard during the titans years

Sure if you peeled the layers of him back then, he had had moral, but if you peel another layer, it was still let another layer of bastard


Also getting your own series kind of make you more noble

[AdamYJ]

Well, at least now maybe he's on a level high enough to be the Titans archenemy.

Sorry, but I never liked Deathstroke. I never understood why a glorified hired gun became the archenemy of an entire superteam.

[Taskmaster]

wasnt he a bit of a bastard during the titans years

Sure if you peeled the layers of him back then, he had had moral, but if you peel another layer, it was still let another layer of bastard


Also getting your own series kind of make you more noble

He might have been a bastard with the Titans, but most of that was just trying to do what his distorted morals thought was right. He actually turned down the Titans contract, but when Grant died trying to accomplish it he felt like he had to honor his son's memory and complete the contract. Contrary to what Meltzer thinks he didn't make Terra evil, she was already f'n crazy, he just aimed her in the Titans direction, and even then she scared him at points. He eventually even mended bridges with the Titans, practically becoming a member and even beginning a friendship with Beast Boy, who initially hated him because of his relationship with Terra (Garth's, not Slade's). Killing Wintergreen and helping to turn Deathstroke into a 2D villain is probably the worst thing Geoff Johns has done since getting into comics (this comming from somebody who pretty much loves everything John's touches) and I hope somebody like Busiek (maybe in Trinity?) or Gail Simone (in Secret Six) can bring back the real Slade Wilson and not this imposter because the real deal is one of my favorite comic characters of all times, and the current version is just a cool look with no substance. He might be a bastard, but he should be a multi-dimensional bastard, unlike now. You don't know how much I wish that eventually it'll be revealed that the taint that infected Jericho (which just sort of vanished with his return) is what's turned him into this crummy character and eventually he can be returned to that character he used to be.

[Taskmaster]

Well, at least now maybe he's on a level high enough to be the Titans archenemy.

Sorry, but I never liked Deathstroke. I never understood why a glorified hired gun became the archenemy of an entire superteam.

He was never really an arch enemy, heck most of the Titan's history he was an ally in one way or another, and there was never any malice on his part when he went up against them. To be honest, I can't really think of any "arch enemies" for the Titans or Teen Titans, but that's a subject for another thread

[AdamYJ]

He was never really an arch enemy, heck most of the Titan's history he was an ally in one way or another, and there was never any malice on his part when he went up against them. To be honest, I can't really think of any "arch enemies" for the Titans or Teen Titans, but that's a subject for another thread

Okay. Cool.

It's something that always bugged me. He was always held up as the top Titans villian when he didn't really seem to have the scope for that role. On the one hand, he's essentially just a hired gun at heart. On the other, the whole thing was just too personal. Whenever he went up against the Titans, he never really wanted to hurt anyone except the Titans. They were essentially just fighting to protect themselves against Slade. And it was generally more about finishing his son's contract. I could see him more as a "nemesis", but not as an "archenemy".

I'm not a big Titans fan, but I think they need one big-time, mastermind archenemy. They need a real major villian. The closest they come is Trigon and he suffers from a lack of personality.

[tfresca]

Trigon, Brother Blood, the brotherhood of Evil, THe Hive, all qualify as great Titan Villians. Everything was down hill after the Wildabeast though. Beginning of the end.