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Seraku
08-31-2008, 01:18 AM
found an old trade in a book store and fell in love with the series, I just really like the writting and the characters and I found Ennis' perspective on Supes to be interesting. trying to get the issues not traded from various bargain bins, and ebay.

anyone else read this series?

Darrell D.
08-31-2008, 05:28 AM
found an old trade in a book store and fell in love with the series, I just really like the writting and the characters and I found Ennis' perspective on Supes to be interesting. trying to get the issues not traded from various bargain bins, and ebay.

anyone else read this series?

Yes, and as far as I'm concerned, it's better than Preacher. I can reread Hitman in its whole, but I find I have to skip around Preacher quite often.
I wish DC would go ahead and trade the rest of the series.

jackdaw53
08-31-2008, 08:44 AM
That I really do like Hitman. One of very few series I've bothered to re-read.

You won't be wasting your time seeking out those untraded issues.... the series actually gets better as it goes along. The last story arc is possibly the best closing story I've ever read in mainstream comics. I've puzzled the issue of "Why on earth don't DC put this all in trade" many a time. (But I guess the answer is simple enough.... the existing trades didn't sell well enough??)

The Beast Of Yucca Flats
08-31-2008, 08:54 AM
A great, funny, exciting, sometimes heart-breaking, & just plain weird as hell look at life on the DCU's other side of the tracks.

EZMOHR
08-31-2008, 10:24 AM
Hitman was alright, but I found it like most stuff by Ennis....it was cool when I was a kid and teen and "shouldn't be reading it," but it was pretty shallow and and popcorny in the end. Not bad, but not standing the test of time good.

Libaax
09-01-2008, 03:23 AM
Not standing the test of the time ? Dude its not from the 50s.....

You was a kid like you are an old man now. Sorry i just thought it was funny it sounded like you are talking about an Kirby comic :P



IMO Hitman are one of his best works character and dark humor wise. I enjoyed the characters alot and not because of some of the over top ones.

A very underrated Garth Ennis series IMO. I enjoyed it more than i have enjoyed Preacher so far. Because characters wise i liked Tommy and his friends more.

The end wasnt good compared to rest of the comic but it was an awesome run until then.

Lester C.
09-01-2008, 04:17 AM
The issues can be reasonable on ebay if you check the site on a daily basis. I was able to get all the issues, plus all of the one shots and everything Garth wrote for the character for sixty dollars.

I'm not going to spoil anything but this book is awesome. The only thing I can add that others did not without giving anything away is that Garth got away with murder making fun of all the big events that were going on at DC at the time and well as nailing every dc character he wrote with the exception of Kyle Rayner. Okay he got Kyle right, but man of man did Kyle get treated as the kids say.

EZMOHR
09-01-2008, 12:45 PM
Not standing the test of the time ? Dude its not from the 50s.....

You was a kid like you are an old man now. Sorry i just thought it was funny it sounded like you are talking about an Kirby comic :P



IMO Hitman are one of his best works character and dark humor wise. I enjoyed the characters alot and not because of some of the over top ones.

A very underrated Garth Ennis series IMO. I enjoyed it more than i have enjoyed Preacher so far. Because characters wise i liked Tommy and his friends more.

The end wasnt good compared to rest of the comic but it was an awesome run until then.


I was a kid a long time ago. Hell, I have kids that are older than a decade now. Plus, Ennis is very low brow IMO. Yeah, he is a pretty good writer, but he writes tons of "fart Jokes," and the such. He's pretty lowest common denominator sometimes. He's the Farrelly Bros. of the comic book universe...funny when you're that age...just not the comic I reach for when I get older.

2-4-5_Trioxin
09-01-2008, 01:35 PM
Not standing the test of the time ? Dude its not from the 50s.....

You was a kid like you are an old man now. Sorry i just thought it was funny it sounded like you are talking about an Kirby comic.

Well something not withstanding the test of time can be as old as like 5 years to me, been some comics I liked alot that werent very old but when I went and re-read them I found them to be not worth re-reading. There is no time stamp to use that phrase and you trying to be condescending and sarcastic about it for no reason isnt needed or proves any point and doesnt further this topic, so try and be a little more civil huh?

You dont have enough posts yet to start talking like that and hopefully youll learn it now before you become one of these bitter posters just looking for something you can pick at and run with it because they have like 5k posts and nothing worth saying anymore.

Seraku
09-01-2008, 02:49 PM
I was a kid a long time ago. Hell, I have kids that are older than a decade now. Plus, Ennis is very low brow IMO. Yeah, he is a pretty good writer, but he writes tons of "fart Jokes," and the such. He's pretty lowest common denominator sometimes. He's the Farrelly Bros. of the comic book universe...funny when you're that age...just not the comic I reach for when I get older.

nah, he's mainly known for cynical ultra violent stuff

EZMOHR
09-01-2008, 04:25 PM
nah, he's mainly known for cynical ultra violent stuff

Yeah, like I said...fart jokes. Listen, I enjoy Michael Bay movies also. But, Ennis is more Michael Bay than Grant Morrison or such. Garth Ennis has a nice niche he's carved out, he doesn't leave that sphere, and there is nothing wrong with that. But, Ennis is what he is, a guy writing 13-year old humor which is disguised as adult themes.

The Beast Of Yucca Flats
09-01-2008, 05:00 PM
Unknown Soldier, War Stories, Punisher MAX, & Dan Dare are located in the sphere of fart jokes? :confused:

EZMOHR
09-01-2008, 07:00 PM
Unknown Soldier, War Stories, Punisher MAX, & Dan Dare are located in the sphere of fart jokes? :confused:

Punisher MAX for sure is....

carabas
09-01-2008, 11:32 PM
Punisher MAX for sure is....Thank you for pointing out that you haven't actually read what you are so busy tearing down.

Seraku
09-01-2008, 11:53 PM
yeah nothing you've posted has really made any sense.

Libaax
09-02-2008, 04:27 AM
He is prolly mixing Marvel Knights Punisher,Hitman and other humor stuff by Ennis to his more serious one.


I would say go read War Stories,Hellblazer and then compare him to someone that is about fart jokes

carabas
09-02-2008, 06:42 AM
Even then, Hitman eclipses Preacher and Punisher MAX, even in the serious writing department.

By the way, while he does occasionally (okay, quite often) go for gross humour, I do not remember any actual fart jokes in Ennis books.

Mojorisin
09-02-2008, 08:34 AM
I dare anybody to read Ennis's last Punisher Max arc and then tell me he's all about fart jokes. Sure, he's all about over the top violence...but the themes and characterization are always top notch. Just because there isn't a purple batman repeating "Zur-En-Arh" doesn't mean he's not in the same calibur as Grant Morrison.

jackdaw53
09-02-2008, 09:31 AM
Tell me I'm not the only guy who enjoys Garth Ennis's writing a lot more than Grant Morrison's. For me a lot of Grant's stuff is extremely difficult to understand, and I can't remember reading any of his stuff where I really cared about any of the characters. I accept he's a good writer... too many people like him for that not to be the case... but for me Garth is much more entertaining.

Oh... and I think Garth can appeal to a wide range of people... I was almost 50 before I'd read any of his stuff.... my enjoyment of his writing patently has nothing to do with feeling I'm reading anything daring or shocking. For me... there's just something so very entertaining about his best stuff.

carabas
09-02-2008, 10:25 AM
Apples and oranges, I think.
Garth Ennis could never write something on the level of The Invisibles. But I also severely doubt that Morrison can write something as warm and emotionally driven like Hitman.

CBikle
09-02-2008, 11:14 AM
What's interesting is that Hitman had a lot of DCU guest-stars which you wouldn't expect in a Garth Ennis comic and I don't get the impression that the cameos were forced on Ennis (except maybe the for the 1st few issues which had Batman & the Joker).

CBikle
09-02-2008, 11:24 AM
Punisher MAX for sure is....

Aside from a few humorous issues like the Confederacy Of Dunces arc, the Max Punisher title is very realistic and even ugly in it's depiction of violence and crime/terrorism. The "white slavery" issues were especially graphic.

Libaax
09-02-2008, 12:34 PM
Apples and oranges, I think.
Garth Ennis could never write something on the level of The Invisibles. But I also severely doubt that Morrison can write something as warm and emotionally driven like Hitman.

There are many qaulity Ennis comics GM would never be able to write.

GM is alittle overrated IMO and Ennis is sometimes a bit too often seen only about violence and jokes.

I dont care im glad he writes comics like Max Punisher,Hitman,HB etc.

I rather see that than him write superhero and people overrate and think he is some kind of god....

jesse_custer
09-02-2008, 12:42 PM
Garth Ennis and fart jokes ... what.

And what's wrong with fart jokes? George Carlin made them; South Park makes them.

Darrell D.
09-02-2008, 01:45 PM
Aside from a few humorous issues like the Confederacy Of Dunces arc, the Max Punisher title is very realistic and even ugly in it's depiction of violence and crime/terrorism. The "white slavery" issues were especially graphic.


Confederacy Of Dunces was in the Marvel Knights version, where tongue was planted firmly in cheek. The Max version got deadly serious.

Seraku
09-02-2008, 02:00 PM
ok so far I only need 40, 52, 56-60

It's so tempting to just read the stuff I have but I wanna wait and read it all in order :O

EZMOHR
09-02-2008, 02:34 PM
Garth Ennis and fart jokes ... what.

And what's wrong with fart jokes? George Carlin made them; South Park makes them.

I don't recall saying there is anything wrong with fart jokes. I'm just saying Garth Ennis' bread and butter IMO are juvenile writings masked as deep social commentary. The guy is one hell of a writer, but he just is what he is.

carabas
09-02-2008, 05:16 PM
I keep finding it hard to believe that you've read more than one or two Garth ennis comics. Especially since you keep going on and on about fart jokes that he does not actually make.

dancj
09-03-2008, 04:33 AM
For me a lot of Grant's stuff is extremely difficult to understand, and I can't remember reading any of his stuff where I really cared about any of the characters.
Animal Man and (to a lesser extent) WE3 are both easy to follow and had me caring about the characters. In fact Animal Man had me caring more than possibly any other comic I've read.

But yeah on the other hand there's things like The Invisibles and 7 Soldiers which are harder work.

dancj
09-03-2008, 04:34 AM
Confederacy Of Dunces was in the Marvel Knights version, where tongue was planted firmly in cheek. The Max version got deadly serious.
Yup - the only exception I can think of to that is Barracuda.

jackdaw53
09-04-2008, 11:06 AM
dancj. I've actually read WE3... and actually found it one of the more accessible efforts from Grant that I've read. (Read Zenith, The Filth, The Invisibles, his JLA run, and other assorted oddments.) I can certainly see why anybody would argue, however, that WE3 is one of the stories where Grant went someway to creating characters any reader could empathize with.

Among the "oddments" of Grants that I've read were the first Doom Patrol and Animal Man trades. I've often thought about giving Grant one last read by finishing off one of these two series. Could never decide which. But now I'll probably plump for Animal Man... and blame you if it all "goes horribly wrong". (Just kidding... of course... though I probably will read more Animal Man one day.)

dancj
09-08-2008, 04:36 AM
Could never decide which. But now I'll probably plump for Animal Man... and blame you if it all "goes horribly wrong". (Just kidding... of course... though I probably will read more Animal Man one day.)

Good choice. The first Animal Man trade is decent, but it's the 2nd and 3rd trades which have the really good stuff (except for The Coyote Gospel which is in the 1st trade)