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Dark Soul # 7
08-30-2008, 02:09 AM
I just want to see if there's anybody else out there who loves this series.

The new chapter is out and the action based chaos in it rivals that of One Piece.

Nodoka and Haruna work really well together and Rankan is still full of manly awesome win.

sun tzu
08-30-2008, 02:46 AM
I'm up to volume 14.
I like it, but...
...I still feel it's somewhat overrated.:confused:

Dark Soul # 7
08-30-2008, 02:55 AM
I'm up to volume 14.
I like it, but...
...I still feel it's somewhat overrated.:confused:Overrated how?

I've only read it at onemanga so where in the story is volume 14?

Nik Hasta
08-30-2008, 06:18 AM
I enjoy Negima quite a bit. Ken Akamatsu can draw a good line in action scenes when he puts his mind to it.

I still don't find there are any characters that I identify with that much apart from Asuna and Takamichi and due to their limited appearance in the current arc, I'm not that interested in what's going on.

But yeah, it's a nice manga certainly.

Dark Soul # 7
08-30-2008, 08:11 AM
I enjoy Negima quite a bit. Ken Akamatsu can draw a good line in action scenes when he puts his mind to it.

I still don't find there are any characters that I identify with that much apart from Asuna and Takamichi and due to their limited appearance in the current arc, I'm not that interested in what's going on.

But yeah, it's a nice manga certainly.I'm in a similar position as my three favorites, Evangeline, Setsuna and Ayaka have done very little in this storyline.

Still, it's great fun and I can't wait to see where it's going.

Besides, we now have Rankan. He's so manly awesome it boggles the mind.

The Real Nemo
08-30-2008, 10:55 AM
Currently this and Soul Eater are probably my two favorite manga series.
I've only read it at onemanga so where in the story is volume 14?
Right after the Mahora Festival Tournament ends.

Dark Soul # 7
08-30-2008, 03:51 PM
Currently this and Soul Eater are probably my two favorite manga series.Cool, how far have you gotten, which is your favorite arc?
Right after the Mahora Festival Tournament ends.Ah, when fun aftermatch things take place. I especially liked the confession stand two parter.

I demand more Evangeline!

The Real Nemo
08-30-2008, 04:49 PM
Cool, how far have you gotten,
I'm at the current point from reading at Onemanga, but I also buy the Del Ray releases when they come out. Volume 19 will be released in the beginning of September.
which is your favorite arc?
Tough to say. The more recent arcs are fun, but the early Evangeline and Kyoto arcs still hold a special place in my heart.
Ah, when fun aftermatch things take place. I especially liked the confession stand two parter.
No I mean just after the tournament part not the whole festival, that doesn't end until volume 18.
I demand more Evangeline!
Agreed, she just keeps getting more awesome. Even when she's not around. ^_^

Dark Soul # 7
08-31-2008, 02:25 AM
I'm at the current point from reading at Onemanga, but I also buy the Del Ray releases when they come out. Volume 19 will be released in the beginning of September.Oki day, I think I'd buy at least some of them if I was more economically stable.
Tough to say. The more recent arcs are fun, but the early Evangeline and Kyoto arcs still hold a special place in my heart.Ican see that. Personally it's the tournament arc during the festival. Maybe mostly because my two favorites got to duke it out.
No I mean just after the tournament part not the whole festival, that doesn't end until volume 18.Whups, my bad. Still, the confession stand two parter rocks.
Agreed, she just keeps getting more awesome. Even when she's not around. ^_^At least she still has some influence over Negi. I do want to see her use Magia Erbea when she's at her peak condition.

Dark Soul # 7
08-31-2008, 05:02 AM
Stupid phantom post.

The Real Nemo
08-31-2008, 04:23 PM
Ican see that. Personally it's the tournament arc during the festival. Maybe mostly because my two favorites got to duke it out.
You mean Eva vs. Setsuna? Yep, that part was great.
Whups, my bad. Still, the confession stand two parter rocks.
At least she still has some influence over Negi. I do want to see her use Magia Erbea when she's at her peak condition.
Agreed. ^_^

Dark Soul # 7
09-13-2008, 01:42 AM
New chapter up.

Asuna and Setsuna get to shine a little and Negi's rematch with Fate begins.

Nik Hasta
09-13-2008, 03:36 AM
Finally, someone actually hit Fate!

Take that!

Dark Soul # 7
09-13-2008, 03:50 AM
Finally, someone actually hit Fate!

Take that!Yep, the look on his face was totally worth the wait.

Though, now he might actually start to fight seriously. And when a guy who's more powerful than a mountain buster is fighting seriously things can never be good.

Nik Hasta
09-13-2008, 09:19 AM
Yep, the look on his face was totally worth the wait.

Though, now he might actually start to fight seriously. And when a guy who's more powerful than a mountain buster is fighting seriously things can never be good.

More powerful?

When did it say that?

Dark Soul # 7
09-13-2008, 09:42 AM
More powerful?

When did it say that?I thought Rakan put himself up on the board and put Fate above himself.

An inspection shows that I'm wrong.

Doesn't mean that he's not more powerful.

The Real Nemo
09-13-2008, 11:17 AM
I thought Rakan put himself up on the board and put Fate above himself.

An inspection shows that I'm wrong.

Doesn't mean that he's not more powerful.
I really doubt it considering Rakan placed him just a rung above "may or may not be serious" Takamichi.

Ghost
09-13-2008, 11:42 AM
I seriously need to order more volumes from Stockholm.

I'm woefully behind. ><

Dark Soul # 7
09-13-2008, 11:45 AM
I seriously need to order more volumes from Stockholm.

I'm woefully behind. ><Well, you could read from the internet...

Kidding, I know you have a reason to not do that.

I just can't remember why.

Ghost
09-13-2008, 12:08 PM
I just can't remember why.

It's because I genuinely, honestly think Negima is too good to read as scans.

Put differently, I don't just want to read this series, I want to actually own it as well.

Dark Soul # 7
09-21-2008, 04:09 PM
New Chapter is out.

Ehm... well. I've seen perverts that are badasses before but this is the first time I've seen someone use their pervert skills in a badass way.

Rakan is awesome.

Nik Hasta
09-21-2008, 04:26 PM
Rakan is pretty awesome.

Breaking the laws of magic just because you tried it is pretty epic.

Nik Hasta
09-27-2008, 12:37 AM
Okay, good chapter again but I'm seriously getting sick of all gratuitous fanservice.

Can we go a chapter without any panty shots, please?

This has bugged me about Negima since day one really.

Dark Soul # 7
09-27-2008, 03:20 AM
Okay, good chapter again but I'm seriously getting sick of all gratuitous fanservice.

Can we go a chapter without any panty shots, please?

This has bugged me about Negima since day one really.If you've been around Negima since day one you already know the answer to that.

But still, good chapter indeed. Finally we get to see Kotarou and Setsuna be badasses again.

Gamiel
09-27-2008, 05:06 AM
Breaking the laws of magic just because you tried it is pretty epic.


Ehm... well. I've seen perverts that are badasses before but this is the first time I've seen someone use their pervert skills in a badass way.



true, true...

I WANT TO SEE MORE!!:biggrin:

Ghost
09-27-2008, 05:48 AM
Okay, good chapter again but I'm seriously getting sick of all gratuitous fanservice.

Can we go a chapter without any panty shots, please?

This has bugged me about Negima since day one really.

Oh come on! You'd read Akamatsu before, so you should have known what you were getting yourself into. :tongue:

Nik Hasta
09-27-2008, 06:55 AM
Oh come on! You'd read Akamatsu before, so you should have known what you were getting yourself into. :tongue:

Yeah but then it actually had loose connection to the plot.

I mean I didn't mind the Mahora Festival arc with the nudity beams that was plot-related.

I find the constant flipping of skirts and panty shots really annoying though.

Dark Soul # 7
10-06-2008, 01:07 PM
A new chapter is up.

Even Fate knows when it's best to pull a tactical retreat.

I hope that Setsuna gets some cool training arc so that she can beat the shit out of that creepy four-eyes.

Oh, and it looks like it's time to bring Yue back to the team.

Nik Hasta
10-19-2008, 05:28 PM
Latest chapter.

Very interesting developments all round.

I have theory about Fate.

Dark Soul # 7
10-20-2008, 07:46 AM
*giggles at Rakan's movie magic*

Interesting chapter overall.

I wonder what Setsuna will do to get stronger for her next meeting with tsukuyomi.

Now then, what might Fate be?Latest chapter.

Very interesting developments all round.

I have theory about Fate.Care to share with the rest of the class?

Nik Hasta
10-20-2008, 08:22 AM
Care to share with the rest of the class?

I could be misremembering as Negima isn't that important to me, so spare me if the details are wrong.

I reckon Fate is the demon that the Thousand Master dealt with in Wales or he's at least related to it.

Dark Soul # 7
10-20-2008, 09:21 AM
I could be misremembering as Negima isn't that important to me, so spare me if the details are wrong.I have a similar problem. I just can't remember specific speed feats for the series.
I reckon Fate is the demon that the Thousand Master dealt with in Wales or he's at least related to it.Ok, I got pretty much the same idea from the very cryptic parts of Fate's downwritten thoughts.

So, what's next after Rakan's movie? The tournament.

Gamiel
10-26-2008, 12:12 PM
What do you think about the latest chapter?

And who is the lady and the spiky haired kid in Nagis team?

Dark Soul # 7
10-28-2008, 01:04 PM
What do you think about the latest chapter?

And who is the lady and the spiky haired kid in Nagis team?It was fun seeing Nagi and his old gang again, and while the historical stuff was interesting I'm never going to remember it.

I think that the lady is just Colonel Sanders. Spikey kid I'm not sure of. ight be the principle.

Anybody wanna guess that the woman at the end is either Negi's or Asuna's mom?

Gamiel
10-31-2008, 05:41 PM
Anybody wanna guess that the woman at the end is either Negi's or Asuna's mom?

Me, me, me. ME!

Dark Soul # 7
11-04-2008, 03:09 PM
New chapter is out.

So, is that Fate or his father or something? He was smiling so it's probably not Fate.

And we're still not sure if Arika is Negi's or Asuna's mom, or both.

arp2008
11-04-2008, 03:21 PM
This is the first time I've been aware of this manga. What is it about?

Dark Soul # 7
11-04-2008, 03:38 PM
This is the first time I've been aware of this manga. What is it about?Negi Springfield is a 10 year old wizard that has recently graduated from wizard school. His first official assignment is to be the teacher of a class of 31 japanese high school girls, in japan of course. When he arrives there they're all first stunned that he's so young. Then they glomp him because he's just so cute.:biggrin:

Keeping this class under control is kind of difficult, and not just because they're all 4 or 5 years older than Negi. Within the class there is a vampire, a robot, a ghost, a ninja, a mercenary for hire, a time-traveler, a... I'm not sure what she is but she never talks and has scary cretures that no one else can see as friends, and many more colorful personalities.

Negi has to live together Asuna Kagurasaka, a tempermental girl who doesn't like kids, and Konoka Konoe, the kind and gentle and kind of spazzy grand-daughter of the principle.

Negi is also looking for his father, a legendary wizard called 'The Thousand Master, who seems to have disappeared from the face of the planet.

Through various adventures Negi and the girls grow closer and more mature as he finds out about their connections to each other, the magical world and his father's past.

It's starts of a typical harem manga but rather quickly changes compeltely into a unique and impressive action/adventure manga.

EDIT: Ok, I didn't exactly do it justice. But I'm tired right now and I think it's a pretty good description.

Gamiel
11-15-2008, 02:38 PM
New chapter is out.

So, is that Fate or his father or something? He was smiling so it's probably not Fate.



I say that he is Fate I or II and that he is some kind of golem or homunculus.

And who is Mr. Tall-dark-mysterious-and-evil?

Dark Soul # 7
11-15-2008, 02:44 PM
I say that he is Fate I or II and that he is some kind of golem or homunculus.Or he's Fate and Fate has been youngified. Though, your suggestion brings on a scary thought. An army of Fates.:eek:
And who is Mr. Tall-dark-mysterious-and-evil?You mean this guy.
http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/232/18/

EDIT: Damn, I'd hoped that would work.

Anyway, well like Rakan said, he's the final boss.

Gamiel
11-18-2008, 02:18 PM
Just wondering is there any good Negima fanfics out there?

Dark Soul # 7
11-20-2008, 09:08 AM
A new chapter is out.

Neat little story Rakan finished there, but something is obviously missing.

And damn what a twist ending.

Nik Hasta
11-20-2008, 09:25 AM
A new chapter is out.

Neat little story Rakan finished there, but something is obviously missing.

And damn what a twist ending.

Agree and we still don't know what Fate actually is.

Gamiel
11-20-2008, 10:12 AM
Agree and we still don't know what Fate actually is.

Third, and who/what is with Negi?

Gamiel
11-28-2008, 04:14 PM
the latest issue answered my questions... dame I want to se Fate get his ass kicked

Dark Soul # 7
11-28-2008, 04:44 PM
the latest issue answered my questions... dame I want to se Fate get his ass kickedStrangely enough I don't have a particular urge to see that.

I'd be happier seeing Tsukuyomi getting her ass kicked brutally.

Nik Hasta
11-29-2008, 06:56 AM
Strangely enough I don't have a particular urge to see that.

I'd be happier seeing Tsukuyomi getting her ass kicked brutally.

Word, I have taken against Tsukiyomi in a big way.

Nik Hasta
12-04-2008, 01:37 PM
Worst chapter in Negima to date.

Zero plot development, 100% fanservice.

Man, Akamatsu is just trying to annoy me it seems.

RubberLotus
12-04-2008, 01:56 PM
Worst chapter in Negima to date.

Zero plot development, 100% fanservice.

Man, Akamatsu is just trying to annoy me it seems.

Hey, we all need those brain-rotting break chapters once in a while. :tongue: Besides, it makes the other break chapters look better.

Dark Soul # 7
12-04-2008, 04:40 PM
Hey, we all need those brain-rotting break chapters once in a while. :tongue: Besides, it makes the other break chapters look better.But this one was just annoying and the fan service did nothing for me. I often wonder if I'm immune to it.

God, I wanted to punch the boob obssesed girl in the face, she deserved more than what she got.

I can stand Rakan as a pervert because he's badass. But this girl and Chamo just bug me.

Dark Soul # 7
12-17-2008, 04:28 AM
So what do people hope to see in the next chapter?

Nik Hasta
12-17-2008, 06:39 AM
So what do people hope to see in the next chapter?

Plot-development, lack of naked women (Unlikely I know but I can dream) and some more epic combat!

HectorP
12-18-2008, 09:28 PM
So what do people hope to see in the next chapter?

Negi's mother.

OverMaster
12-19-2008, 05:10 AM
;lack of naked women (Unlikely I know but I can dream)

What are you doing reading an Akamatsu manga? :tongue:

Nik Hasta
12-19-2008, 09:47 AM
What are you doing reading an Akamatsu manga? :tongue:

Enjoying the good writing.:tongue:

RubberLotus
12-19-2008, 01:07 PM
I've always wondered: Is Mahora located in Anytown, Japan, or is it stated to be in an actual city? (i.e. Tokyo)?

Dark Soul # 7
01-01-2009, 01:21 PM
New chapter is up and it has quite a bit of plot progression.

I hope that the rest of the gang will get their own power ups soon enough. Negi's magia erebea is starting to put him a bit too much above them for my liking. Hopefully Rakan will beat him, because I prefer Rakan.

Still also want to see what Evangeline is like in magia erebea mode.

Dark Soul # 7
01-15-2009, 04:42 PM
I know it's not the real her but... EVA-CHAN!:biggrin:

Things are taking a pretty cool turn here.

I've almost forgotten about the kidnapped Asuna.

OverMaster
01-18-2009, 07:52 AM
Is anyone else missing Mahora Academy already?

I thought I'd enjoy the Magical World setting more, but I find myself really wanting the gang to leave and go back to the school now. Mahora is to 3-A what Gotham City is to Batman.

Not to mention, dammit, I demand Zazie, Hakase and the rest to been given SOMETHING to do for a change.

Dark Soul # 7
01-22-2009, 09:35 AM
New chapter out.

Now I'm definately rooting for Rakan. In shounen stories the underdog is seldom the underdog after all.

Lord Darkwolf
01-22-2009, 10:36 AM
We've already had Negi lose one tournament against a former Ala Rubra member so it would be silly for him to lose again .... Not to mention the whole slave girls thing .

Dark Soul # 7
01-22-2009, 10:44 AM
We've already had Negi lose one tournament against a former Ala Rubra member so it would be silly for him to lose again .... Not to mention the whole slave girls thing .Considering that they now have three most likely very rich political leaders on their side I find it kind of silly that they can't just ask for the money. Manly pride be damned.

Lord Darkwolf
01-22-2009, 10:51 AM
Considering that they now have three most likely very rich political leaders on their side I find it kind of silly that they can't just ask for the money. Manly pride be damned.

....



.....



......



*slams fist in face giving Duval's "why didn't I think of that " look .*

Dark Soul # 7
01-22-2009, 02:05 PM
....



.....



......



*slams fist in face giving Duval's "why didn't I think of that " look .*:biggrin:

Now then, does anyone else want to point out the flaws of rooting for Rakan?

RubberLotus
01-22-2009, 06:04 PM
Five bucks says that it turns out they're helping Negi because they bet against Rakan.

Nik Hasta
01-23-2009, 05:35 AM
Good chapter this!

I'm very much anticipating the actual fight!

Pong
02-09-2009, 09:59 AM
Awesome chapter!

I wonder what Negi artifact will be? Probably something cool.


Anyway I have theory I wanted to shear with you: Negi magia erebea is a dark magic power up and its powered by negative emotions. So in other words the more rage he has the more power he gets from it right? But there is a risk that he may be overpowered by his own inner darkness if he use too much of it (that probably why Eva stopped using it when she became strong enough to get away without it).

Am I the only one who cant shake a feeling that this is a obvious case of Chekhov's Gun ?

I mean good writer don't introduce Dangerous Forbidden Technique and then completely ignores any drawbacks it comes with it. That just cheap.

But i was thinking what could be that give Negi enough negative emotions to brake him?

Answer is rather obvious: Fate has kidnapped Asuna. Now Negi dose not know it yet but he will know eventually and considering how much he loves her you can bet that he will not be simply pissed off he will practically go berserk on Fate sorry golem ass. And with magia erebea converting all the rage into power he will be smacking him up and down like a rag doll . But he will not have a chance to kill him because this is where his dark magic overpowers him and it gives Fate chance to escape.

So now we have Asuna free (Yay!:biggrin: ) Fate escaped like a sissy to lick his wounds (double Yay!! :biggrin: :biggrin: ) but Negi turned into bad boy (Oh Noes !! :eek:) and doing something bad.

Then comes couple of chapters of him trying to rescue him. Negi kicking whole group asses around and eventually he is brought back to normal by Asuna using the usual "I Know You Are In There Somewhere" romantic plot device.

But after match is such that Negi has to seal magia erebea and find another way. Good news are that he have some time before Fate recovers and strikers again. And next 50 chapters are inaction comedy ones with Negi training in the background.


So does this theory makes any sense ? Is it plausible? What do you think??

Dark Soul # 7
02-13-2009, 10:41 AM
Ok, that's one powerful pactio he's gotten there, and I'd say kind of cheap but I don't know if it's just me being biased about it. And he's kind of lucky that he got all those pactios before he got his own I'd say.

With that said, go Rakan go!

OverMaster
02-13-2009, 11:09 AM
New set of OVAs announced:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-02-11/negima-2nd-original-anime-dvd-series-reportedly-announced

Dark Soul # 7
02-13-2009, 11:33 AM
New set of OVAs announced:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-02-11/negima-2nd-original-anime-dvd-series-reportedly-announcedCan't they just give us a normal series that's true to the manga already? Just start it of right before the Mahora Festival and we'll get to the good parts.

HectorP
02-14-2009, 12:08 AM
Wonder why is it so hard for anime companies to make justice to the manga.

Lord Darkwolf
02-19-2009, 09:23 AM
New chaps up .




And with this there is no further doubt that Negi is far far beyond bullet time .

Dark Soul # 7
02-19-2009, 09:32 AM
And with this there is no further doubt that Negi is far far beyond bullet time .Elaborate... I'm horrible at judging bullet time speed feats.

And I'm glad I reread the last part of the chapter twice. Otherwise I would've ranted about the fight being a bigger disappointment than Itachi vs. Sasuke.

RubberLotus
02-19-2009, 01:09 PM
Elaborate... I'm horrible at judging bullet time speed feats.

And I'm glad I reread the last part of the chapter twice. Otherwise I would've ranted about the fight being a bigger disappointment than Itachi vs. Sasuke.

Yep... so there's still three seconds before Negi "officially" wins... and I'm betting that Rakan's going to be rising at the very last second to give him the fight of his life.

Dark Soul # 7
02-19-2009, 01:12 PM
Yep... so there's still three seconds before Negi "officially" wins... and I'm betting that Rakan's going to be rising at the very last second to give him the fight of his life.And that's because Rakan is genre-savy and knows how to put on a good show.

RubberLotus
02-19-2009, 01:39 PM
And that's because Rakan is genre-savy and knows how to put on a good show.

I still think that at least two of Negi's three new mentors bet against Rakan.

Guy1
02-28-2009, 03:05 PM
So what's up with this new lightspeed tech Negi has now?

Dark Soul # 7
02-28-2009, 03:08 PM
So what's up with this new lightspeed tech Negi has now?Lightningspeed not lightspeed.

It's a technique that combines Evangeline's ultimate technique magia erebea, which allows you to absorb the users offensive spells to empower your stats, and a thunder-magic spell that is designed to destroy armies.

When Negi absorbs the thunder-magic he becomes close to a lightning elemental and thus reaches lightningspeed.

Guy1
02-28-2009, 03:14 PM
Lightningspeed not lightspeed.

It's a technique that combines Evangeline's ultimate technique magia erebea, which allows you to absorb the users offensive spells to empower your stats, and a thunder-magic spell that is designed to destroy armies.

When Negi absorbs the thunder-magic he becomes close to a lightning elemental and thus reaches lightningspeed.

So can he just snap his fingers and go into this form or does Negi still at least have to chant for it?

Dark Soul # 7
02-28-2009, 03:20 PM
So can he just snap his fingers and go into this form or does Negi still at least have to chant for it?Sorry, I always forget that part.

Besides the pretty long chant for the thudner spell Negi also has to issue three seperate commands to compact the attack spell, crush it and then absorb it.

Magia Erebea fuses offensive spells into the very soul of the user and thus feeds of the body and soul of said user in return for much greater power. We have yet to see a situation where these drawbacks have been a problem.

Guy1
02-28-2009, 03:21 PM
Sorry, I always forget that part.

Besides the pretty long chant for the thudner spell Negi also has to issue three seperate commands to compact the attack spell, crush it and then absorb it.

Magia Erebea fuses offensive spells into the very soul of the user and thus feeds of the body and soul of said user in return for much greater power. We have yet to see a situation where these drawbacks have been a problem.

Ah gotcha.

One final question, how fast is standard Negi now?

Dark Soul # 7
02-28-2009, 03:33 PM
Ah gotcha.

One final question, how fast is standard Negi now?Good question. Sorry I can't answer it.:redface:

I'm not good with speed feats and I can't find anything particulary impressive.

Dark Soul # 7
03-04-2009, 01:54 PM
So the spoilers were true.

When Rakan gets serious he can speed-blitz Lightning Negi...

AWESOME! This is more like it.

master of read
03-04-2009, 02:03 PM
well, i only started reading this series monday and for one reason only:



JACK RAKAN!!!

i mean, how come no one told me that there was a character this uber in manga?

Dark Soul # 7
03-04-2009, 02:09 PM
well, i only started reading this series monday and for one reason only:



JACK RAKAN!!!

i mean, how come no one told me that there was a character this uber in manga?Sorry. It was kind of difficult to come up with a good way to introduce him to the rumbles world.

Yes, it has to be that complicated. We don't do things the easy way around here.

And yes, Jack Rakan is EPIC!

Where in the manga are you so far?

master of read
03-04-2009, 02:23 PM
i started when you posted that luffy vs jack fight. so probably been reading since monday. just caught up this morning.

Dark Soul # 7
03-04-2009, 02:33 PM
i started when you posted that luffy vs jack fight. so probably been reading since monday. just caught up this morning.Really? Wow, you're fast reader.

Then it is time for the standard Negima newbie questions.

1. Who do you think Negi should end up with?
2. Who do you think is more awesome, Evangeline A.K. McDowell or Jack Rakan?! (ok this one is new but still):biggrin:

master of read
03-04-2009, 02:45 PM
Really? Wow, you're fast reader.

Then it is time for the standard Negima newbie questions.

1. Who do you think Negi should end up with?
2. Who do you think is more awesome, Evangeline A.K. McDowell or Jack Rakan?! (ok this one is new but still):biggrin:

thanks.

1: asuna. what can i say? i like red heads. and they two of them have a...........bond of sorts. i like how asuna can tell something is wrong with negi just by looking at him.

2: eva is cool but when you can break out of a impossible to break out of dimension just cause you want to, that earns you something.

Dark Soul # 7
03-04-2009, 02:51 PM
1: asuna. what can i say? i like red heads. and they two of them have a...........bond of sorts. i like how asuna can tell something is wrong with negi just by looking at him.Then once again we find ourselves on seperate edges of the great main character shipping divide.

That's ok. As long as we're all for Konoka/Setsuna everything will be just fine.
2: eva is cool but when you can break out of a impossible to break out of dimension just cause you want to, that earns you something.True, but it was revealed in this recent chapter that there's actually a secret technique that just appears to be perverted behaviour and pure will power. Still, it's an awesome feat.

master of read
03-04-2009, 03:16 PM
Then once again we find ourselves on seperate edges of the great main character shipping divide.

That's ok. As long as we're all for Konoka/Setsuna everything will be just fine.
True, but it was revealed in this recent chapter that there's actually a secret technique that just appears to be perverted behaviour and pure will power. Still, it's an awesome feat.

yes. yes we have. i have no problems with konoka and setsuna doing a little HLA.

Kevin M.
03-04-2009, 03:20 PM
I just got into Negima...and I like what I see so far.

Dark Soul # 7
03-04-2009, 03:25 PM
I just got into Negima...and I like what I see so far.Welcome aboard. It's a fun ride and I hope that you'll enjoy it.

OverMaster
03-04-2009, 04:28 PM
Really? Wow, you're fast reader.

Then it is time for the standard Negima newbie questions.

1. Who do you think Negi should end up with?
2. Who do you think is more awesome, Evangeline A.K. McDowell or Jack Rakan?! (ok this one is new but still):biggrin:

1. Either Chisame or Yue. But I think he'll end up with Nodoka regardless of what I want.
2. Rakan. Because he's awesome *and* relatable to. Something about Eva's superiority rubs me the wrong way.

RubberLotus
03-04-2009, 04:32 PM
1. Either Chisame or Yue. But I think he'll end up with Nodoka regardless of what I want.

Is this assuming that the author doesn't chicken out and end it with no relationships resolved?

OverMaster
03-04-2009, 04:46 PM
Is this assuming that the author doesn't chicken out and end it with no relationships resolved?

It might happen, although that isn't Akamatsu's usual style. The man likes to wrap his romances up some way or another; Rumiko Takahashi he ain't.

Plus, Chao's existence tells us he *will* end up with someone at some point.

Len Ikari145
03-04-2009, 04:46 PM
Is this assuming that the author doesn't chicken out and end it with no relationships resolved?

Akamatsu isn't that type of shonen romance writer.

Pong
03-04-2009, 04:47 PM
OK I've got a question: was Rakan holding back up to this moment or did he used some kind of power up? It's not magia erbeea as he doesn't have affinity for it and cant use it in battle but that power jump is kind big.

But honestly i would like if he did simply stopped holding back. With that whole "Theres no tricks to his power" theme and all :biggrin:



1. Who do you think Negi should end up with?
2. Who do you think is more awesome, Evangeline A.K. McDowell or Jack Rakan?! (ok this one is new but still)

1. Asuna. And that one don't have anything to do with me shipping them or anything. It's just... Well it's pretty obvious to me that they are going to end up together. I can say many good things about Akamatsu bu one have to admit that he always makes it pretty obvious who protagonist going o end up with. Hes about as good at hiding it as Takahashi is. Which says a LOT


2. Rakan definitely. Eva is such wannabe bad ass why his awesomes is geniue. Theres no tricks to it .

Dark Soul # 7
03-04-2009, 04:49 PM
So I'm the only who thinks that Evangeline is more awesome than Rakan huh?

Well, I always did like being the outcast.:smile:

master of read
03-04-2009, 05:22 PM
So I'm the only who thinks that Evangeline is more awesome than Rakan huh?

Well, I always did like being the outcast.:smile:

you cant help it if rakan is too gar.

Dark Soul # 7
03-04-2009, 05:35 PM
you cant help it if rakan is too gar.Just you wait til Evangeline busts out her seasoned magia erebea.

Then you'll all see.

Melchior
03-04-2009, 10:14 PM
Really? Wow, you're fast reader.

Then it is time for the standard Negima newbie questions.

1. Who do you think Negi should end up with?
2. Who do you think is more awesome, Evangeline A.K. McDowell or Jack Rakan?! (ok this one is new but still):biggrin:

1. Negi's standard partner is Asuna.... who is his aunt (if I got the characters in Rakan's video right), and thus they do not do any squicky stuff.

Romantically? Despite his wishes, he never really "marries" anyone. However, he does have numerous children (Nodoka and Yue use Nodoka's "solution", as well as Chisame), and manages to see the birth of Chao in his twilight years alongside Chachamaru.

Eva is irked by the fact that, regardless of parentage, all of the Ala Alba's children (including Konoka and Setsuna's, and no, they won't tell anyone how) refer to her as their "Beloved Evil Granny". She still spoils them all rotten.

2. Eva for me. Rakan's been a little too inconsistent in his seriousness to get a true awesome rating, at least from me.

OverMaster
03-05-2009, 05:17 AM
1. Negi's standard partner is Asuna.... who is his aunt (if I got the characters in Rakan's video right), and thus they do not do any squicky stuff.

Romantically? Despite his wishes, he never really "marries" anyone. However, he does have numerous children (Nodoka and Yue use Nodoka's "solution", as well as Chisame), and manages to see the birth of Chao in his twilight years alongside Chachamaru.

Eva is irked by the fact that, regardless of parentage, all of the Ala Alba's children (including Konoka and Setsuna's, and no, they won't tell anyone how) refer to her as their "Beloved Evil Granny". She still spoils them all rotten.


You got the OverMaster Seal of Approval (TM).

RubberLotus
03-05-2009, 09:57 AM
Personally, I think that any relationship between Negi and Asuna (who's at least twentysomething) would indeed be a bit squicky. Then again, since I'm a Negi X Eva shipper, I really shouldn't be complaining... :tongue:

Len Ikari145
03-05-2009, 02:05 PM
Personally, I think that any relationship between Negi and Asuna (who's at least twentysomething) would indeed be a bit squicky. Then again, since I'm a Negi X Eva shipper, I really shouldn't be complaining... :tongue:

She's fifteen, bro. She's as old as most of the other girls.

HectorP
03-05-2009, 04:58 PM
Asuna is older than she looks.

Lord Darkwolf
03-11-2009, 03:44 AM
She's fifteen, bro. She's as old as most of the other girls.

Mentally pretty much ...biologically well it gets complicated.

heretic
03-11-2009, 11:46 AM
Really? Wow, you're fast reader.

Then it is time for the standard Negima newbie questions.

1. Who do you think Negi should end up with?
2. Who do you think is more awesome, Evangeline A.K. McDowell or Jack Rakan?! (ok this one is new but still):biggrin:

I am torn between Chisame and Yue, leaning toward the latter.

(Setsuna and Konoka are out of the running for obvious reasons, Asuna for less obvious ones)

Eva-chan. Sorry, it is the Ancient Loli appeal (Jack does come close)


So I'm the only who thinks that Evangeline is more awesome than Rakan huh?

Well, I always did like being the outcast.:smile:
You are not alone....

Eva is irked by the fact that, regardless of parentage, all of the Ala Alba's children (including Konoka and Setsuna's, and no, they won't tell anyone how) refer to her as their "Beloved Evil Granny". She still spoils them all rotten.
*snort* Almost feel sorry for her, Eva's rep is going to be shot unless she reduces an army to a blood smear at this rate.

Personally, I think that any relationship between Negi and Asuna (who's at least twentysomething) would indeed be a bit squicky. Then again, since I'm a Negi X Eva shipper, I really shouldn't be complaining... :tongue:

She's fifteen, bro. She's as old as most of the other girls.Keep reading....

HTG

OverMaster
03-11-2009, 12:14 PM
I am torn between Chisame and Yue, leaning toward the latter.


Brother!

Come to think about it, though, I guess Anya's sort of a possibility too, even if I dread it. Stupid Law of the First Girl Wins.

Nik Hasta
03-12-2009, 04:08 AM
Oh balls.

Now we have to redo all the Rakan Rumbles since he's not actually that fast.

master of read
03-12-2009, 04:45 AM
Oh balls.

Now we have to redo all the Rakan Rumbles since he's not actually that fast.

ditto. but i did like that little explanation of his. especially the "telephone punch" scene.

Melchior
03-12-2009, 08:49 PM
ditto. but i did like that little explanation of his. especially the "telephone punch" scene.

But does he lose points for actually using the "Eternal Negi Fever" move in combat?

Sadly, it looks like he removed Negi's artifact during that last exchange. If Negi had it handy, he might have used Konoka's to at least lessen the damage from Rakan's attack.

As it is, thematic conventions indicate one more trump for Negi to pull (and maybe Kotaro can get something off), in addition to whatever last-gasp thing he pulls. A combined "Negi's Class" beatdown would be kinda neat, but probably against the rules. Temporarily zapping Rakan into that scroll so he has to deal with a full-powered (but only a mental projection) Evangeline would also be neat, but probably useless. Or Negi's despair combined with the dark magic allows Negi to pull off the local equivalent of Shi Shi Hodokan or a similiar power-up.

As for Tosaka.... Negi dropped the ball a bit. If Negi delays the final answer/collaring until he has all of his students, then Negi can simply say "forget this" and bum rush his way to the Gate. Once Ala Alba and company are off of the Magic World, they can probably retreat to Mahora while the older mages clear their names. That would render Tosaka's threat useless. Or he could tell some of his class the problem (yeah, right). Chisame could probably stop the info flow or screw with the footage if she knows to look for it, and, well, Nodoka has a mind-reading artifact and at least two cursed magical items. She might be able to blackmail him back, at least so she can help Negi.

I forsee Yue's reunion with Ala Alba being the catalyst for Nodoka TPing the rest of the crew and discovering the fake. But that's my two cents.

Dark Soul # 7
03-13-2009, 12:35 PM
Oh balls.

Now we have to redo all the Rakan Rumbles since he's not actually that fast.I'm actually kind of relieved.

I find him being able to pick up so many miniscule hints and reacting appropriatly to be more awesome than him just speeding over Negi.

But yeah, we have to redo the rumbles.

Ghost
03-13-2009, 12:41 PM
Finally! Volumes 18-20 are mine! oO

Lord Darkwolf
03-19-2009, 11:32 AM
245 ....



Ok there is just aint no frikking way that Negi is gonna lose this match . If he does ....I will crawl into this manga somehow ... and beat the crap out of him myself !

Dark Soul # 7
03-19-2009, 12:32 PM
Oh Ako... She's still totally a side character.

If Negi's going to win we better get a damn goods reason for it. And I'm still rooting for Rakan.

Dark Soul # 7
03-31-2009, 03:25 PM
Damn you Negi! Now I have to come up with something even more awesome for my Evangeline-fic.

Also, Koutaro just gained ten levels on the badassometer. His new form is just incredibly cool.

Nik Hasta
03-31-2009, 03:26 PM
Dude. Kotaro, just went up several ranks on the badassometer.

That was an impressive performance as all hell and still the fight continues.

Excellent chapter. Negima is totally in the running for the "Most Badass Chapter Of The Week," award.

RubberLotus
03-31-2009, 05:41 PM
Negima is totally in the running for the "Most Badass Chapter Of The Week," award.

Let's see what One Piece has to offer first... :tongue:

Pong
03-31-2009, 05:48 PM
I'm speechless just... speechless. The amount of awesome in this chapter was worth every second of wait. Akamtasu proves himself yet again and reminds me why Neigma is the best ongoing manga i heard of.

Also Negi is something else. Is there end to this little fellow guts? I mean Rakan bet him up so hard that he vomits his internal organs, so hard that he bleeds form eye sockets and then starts to taunt him. Negi reaction:

"Don't... ...Screw Around... ...With Me!"

That's what i call spirit! And hes ten years old :eek: I mean come one if there was a doubt who is most badass shonen here of our time this chapter sealed the deal.



Oh i also like the "Duplex Complexio" Its a power up that actually makes sense not unlike some (cough*Ichigo*cough)

Dark Soul # 7
04-01-2009, 11:48 AM
Oh i also like the "Duplex Complexio" Its a power up that actually makes sense not unlike some (cough*Ichigo*cough)OBJECTION!

Ichigo's power-up hasn't come from nowhere. It just hasn't been explained yet. There's a difference.

Pong
04-01-2009, 01:42 PM
OBJECTION!

Ichigo's power-up hasn't come from nowhere. It just hasn't been explained yet. There's a difference.

Ok maybe but it seems so... random like deus ex machina or something.
Kubo better have good explanation :evilsmile:


But we are cool about Negi being awesome and badass this week. Right?

Dark Soul # 7
04-01-2009, 01:50 PM
Ok maybe but it seems so... random like deus ex machina or something.
Kubo better have good explanation :evilsmile:Most likely most people won't be satisfied by whatever's happened but meh, I'm giving him the benefit of a doubt.
But we are cool about Negi being awesome and badass this week. Right?Yeah, absolutely. Very badass.

But IMO Koutaro's dark wolf form was ten times more badass than anything Negi did. But I'm sort of biased.

Pong
04-01-2009, 02:09 PM
Yeah, absolutely. Very badass.

But IMO Koutaro's dark wolf form was ten times more badass than anything Negi did. But I'm sort of biased.


I dont know... something about standin up despite being gravely injured just screams Awesome to me.

But yeah both of them were badass.


I dont know if anyone noted but i liked the fight that Negi forced himself to stand not because he fights for his students but when Rakan said he is still to weak and mentioned his mother. Nice parallel to his fight with Takamichi. But it shows that no mater what negi wants to believe he fights first and fore most for himself. I think that little piece of story will be broth to light later .

Dark Soul # 7
04-01-2009, 02:16 PM
I dont know... something about standin up despite being gravely injured just screams Awesome to me.And it is, especially since he was punking blood seconds before that. But the thing is, to me, that basically every shounen hero can and has done something similar to that so it loses the special feeling. I mean, if you can't do that you more or less don't deserve your shounen hero certificate.

Now, turning into a large wolf made out of darkness and fighting evenly with a guy like Rakan, even if it is just for a few seconds, when you're not the main character. That's just borderline awesome-overload.
But yeah both of them were badass.Undoubtedly.














I'm still rooting for Rakan and Kagetarou though.

Pong
04-02-2009, 12:50 PM
And it is, especially since he was punking blood seconds before that. But the thing is, to me, that basically every shounen hero can and has done something similar to that so it loses the special feeling. I mean, if you can't do that you more or less don't deserve your shounen hero certificate.

Yeah it happens alot b ut that's the thing, usually it dosent impress me, heck it looks like a Narm (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Narm) it comes of more stupid than badass. But Negi actually made it look cool not like a Deus ex machina (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Deusexmachina) but like a proof of actual honest determination.


Now, turning into a large wolf made out of darkness and fighting evenly with a guy like Rakan, even if it is just for a few seconds, when you're not the main character. That's just borderline awesome-overload.

Agreed Koutaro went up on my favorite Negima characters list.

Also one thing more i like about this chapter is that it makes Koutaro look strong. I mean up to now Koutaro looked kinda weak compared to Negi _ not being able to defeat a guy weaker than base Negi. Wih made me sad cuz they are suposed to be like Nagi and Rakan of the new generation - near equal rivals. Now with Kagetarou being 3000 things look much better . Koutaro is probably close to Negi barring the Duplex Complexio and Thunder god hax.


I was actually trying for some time to figure the strength order of the ala alba and with this chapter i think it looks something like that:

1)Negi (the star himself)
2) Asuna
3) Koutaro (DAMN close to Asuna but would lose to her since she is basically his worst matchup)
4) Setsuna
5)Kaede
6) Ku Fei
7) Konoka
8) Haruna
9) Yue
10) Nodoka (boy shes weak)

Or something like that. Agree? Disagree ? :confused:

Dark Soul # 7
04-02-2009, 01:04 PM
I was actually trying for some time to figure the strength order of the ala alba and with this chapter i think it looks something like that:

1)Negi (the star himself)
2) Asuna
3) Koutaro (DAMN close to Asuna but would lose to her since she is basically his worst matchup)
4) Setsuna
5)Kaede
6) Ku Fei
7) Konoka
8) Haruna
9) Yue
10) Nodoka (boy shes weak)

Or something like that. Agree? Disagree ? :confused:Before I do my list I have to defend Nodoka in that she's not a warrior type and started out as a normal human. Even so she's more useful than most manga women in that role. Now for how I see the strength ranking in Ala Alba.

1. Evangeline (I'm not sure she's in Ala Alba, but I'm counting her anyway)
2. Negi
3. Asuna
4. Koutaro/Kaede (can't decide)
5. Ku Fei
6. Setsuna (she's lacking compared to the others and that pisses me off)
7. Chachamaru

The rest aren't really fighters so I won't bring them into the list.

Pong
04-02-2009, 01:54 PM
Before I do my list I have to defend Nodoka in that she's not a warrior type and started out as a normal human. Even so she's more useful than most manga women in that role. .

Eh personally i think she is more of a load than anything. She was usefull like what.. twice in the whole series?? (and most recently it was Koutaro idea and without him it would not worked) And she's constantly in danger of getting into crossfire. She should just stay in the real world since it's not like she adds anything good to the plot either.

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Sorry thats just my anti-Nodoka bias leaking out. Its just that cant understand how can anyone like her she's not only annoying but creepy as well...


Ok anyway back to our list


1. Evangeline (I'm not sure she's in Ala Alba, but I'm counting her anyway)
2. Negi
3. Asuna
4. Koutaro/Kaede (can't decide)
5. Ku Fei
6. Setsuna (she's lacking compared to the others and that pisses me off)
7. Chachamaru


Ok couple of points:

1. I agree if we count Eva she should be first. She is somewhere betwen Nei and Rakan in power.

2. I think Koutaro is stronger than Kaede... I dont think she could defeat Kagetarou and hold off Rakan like he did.

3. why Setsuna so low? I think she is stronger than Kaede personally

4. I forgot abut chachamaru :eek: i must be sick! But i think shes stronger than you give her credit for... she did fight off that dragon by her lonesome.

Dark Soul # 7
04-02-2009, 02:13 PM
Eh personally i think she is more of a load than anything. She was usefull like what.. twice in the whole series?? (and most recently it was Koutaro idea and without him it would not worked) And she's constantly in danger of getting into crossfire. She should just stay in the real world since it's not like she adds anything good to the plot either.

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Sorry thats just my anti-Nodoka bias leaking out. Its just that cant understand how can anyone like her she's not only annoying but creepy as well...


Ok anyway back to our listI'm a fan of the sweet and quiet girls like Nodoka and a Negi/Nodoka shipper... so we'd better never talk about her with the risk of a verbal fight hanging over our heads. Deal?:wink:
Ok couple of points:

1. I agree if we count Eva she should be first. She is somewhere betwen Nei and Rakan in power.

2. I think Koutaro is stronger than Kaede... I dont think she could defeat Kagetarou and hold off Rakan like he did.

3. why Setsuna so low? I think she is stronger than Kaede personally

4. I forgot abut chachamaru :eek: i must be sick! But i think shes stronger than you give her credit for... she did fight off that dragon by her lonesome.1. I think that's she's more even steven with Rakan. In her base form. When she pulls out her more expert version of Magia Erebea however... I'm telling you that is one of the moments I'm looking forward to the most in the entire series.

2. Fair enough. On the other hand she did give Colonel Sanders a decent fight a few story arcs ago. She's stronger now and capable of bringing down dragons with ease. I'd also say that her experience might give her an advantage.

3. Like I wrote I think that she's lacking in growth of power compared to the others. Hell, she got her ass whupped in that fight with Tsukiyomi (god I hate that one) and doesn't have anything to match Ku Fei's mountain top busting feat. I'm hoping that she'll get to kick some ass and grow as a character soon enough though. I'm getting a little tired of Negi and Asuna getting all the awesome moments recently

4. Maybe, but she seems to have a limited endurance that drains pretty fast if she uses her big moves.

Pong
04-02-2009, 03:19 PM
... so we'd better never talk about her with the risk of a verbal fight hanging over our heads. Deal?

No deal! :biggrin:

It's boring if we only discus stuff we agree on. after all it's the heated up debates that make people click refresh button every minute to see if theres new post.

Dont worry we are both intelligent people not some demented fanboys so no one will hold a grudge :tongue:


]I'm a fan of the sweet and quiet girls like Nodoka

Heh it seems that what attracts you is whats throws me off. The quiet uncofident girl that tries to gain strength of character is the one that annoys me the most . I like my girls more fiery.

and a Negi/Nodoka shipper

Negi/Asuna guy here (heh first paring i became shipper of... before that i always laughed at shippers bat that magnificent bastard Akamatsu got me somehow)

I cant wait till Asuna rescue arc since it will be a stepng stone in their relationship (oh yeah and i want see Nei kick Fate ass :evilsmile: )


Back to the list:

1. I think that's she's more even steven with Rakan. In her base form. When she pulls out her more expert version of Magia Erebea however... I'm telling you that is one of the moments I'm looking forward to the most in the entire series.


I don't know didn't Rakan fought to a draw with that high ancient dragon who was said to be even stronger than Eva?

Beside it RAAN from ALA RUBRA for god's sake... the series made a point that those guys are practically invincible. Even Arika said that they are sven strongest people in the world

And seriously if yo can call your six friends and then wage the war on entire world and WIN it means you are THE shit.



2. Fair enough. On the other hand she did give Colonel Sanders a decent fight a few story arcs ago. She's stronger now and capable of bringing down dragons with ease. I'd also say that her experience might give her an advantage.

Yeah but colonel is vastly weakened so i don't think we can compare him to Jack.

And as for experience i dont think is that much biger. After all she said that she didint have much occasions to use her skills in the old world. While Koutaro had to fend for himself since he was kid.


3. Like I wrote I think that she's lacking in growth of power compared to the others. Hell, she got her ass whupped in that fight with Tsukiyomi (god I hate that one) and doesn't have anything to match Ku Fei's mountain top busting feat. I'm hoping that she'll get to kick some ass and grow as a character soon enough though. I'm getting a little tired of Negi and Asuna getting all the awesome moments recently



Yeah i hate Tsukiyomi (everyone does) :mad:

Maybe you are right her performance was lackluster since the begining of the magic world arc.

But I disagree on one point: This series need MORE Negi and asuna awesomes (plus koutaro he deserves place in the spotlight)



4. Maybe, but she seems to have a limited endurance that drains pretty fast if she uses her big moves.

Fair enough.

Dark Soul # 7
04-02-2009, 03:54 PM
No deal! :biggrin:

It's boring if we only discus stuff we agree on. after all it's the heated up debates that make people click refresh button every minute to see if theres new post.

Dont worry we are both intelligent people not some demented fanboys so no one will hold a grudgeI see that you overestimate what CBR has done to me in terms of fandom. But I will try to hold down my inner shipper, because he's a psycho that would make TDK Joker raise an eyebrow.
Heh it seems that what attracts you is whats throws me off. The quiet uncofident girl that tries to gain strength of character is the one that annoys me the most . I like my girls more fiery.I don't dislike the fiery girls, they can be fun and exciting. I just rarely seem them as good matches for the main characters. And when I do I still prefer the calm feeling that the quiet girls instill in the relationship. Also, I identify more with unconfident characters.
Negi/Asuna guy here (heh first paring i became shipper of... before that i always laughed at shippers bat that magnificent bastard Akamatsu got me somehow)For me it goes Negi/Nodoka, Negi/Ayaka (another character that needs more screen time), Negi/Chachamaru, Negi/Makie, Negi/Yue and then finally Negi/Asuna.

Of course they could all be left unsolved for all I care when compared to Setsuna/Konoka.:biggrin:
I cant wait till Asuna rescue arc since it will be a stepng stone in their relationship (oh yeah and i want see Nei kick Fate ass :evilsmile: )As long as people besides Negi and Asuna get to be cool I'm happy.
I don't know didn't Rakan fought to a draw with that high ancient dragon who was said to be even stronger than Eva?Actually a point was made that the ancient dragons are on Evangeline's level, not the other way around. And like I said, she has magia erebea working for her.
Beside it RAAN from ALA RUBRA for god's sake... the series made a point that those guys are practically invincible. Even Arika said that they are sven strongest people in the world

And seriously if yo can call your six friends and then wage the war on entire world and WIN it means you are THE shit.I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. A group and a person are not the same things. But yeah, Ala Rubra were a bunch of badasses.
Yeah but colonel is vastly weakened so i don't think we can compare him to Jack.

And as for experience i dont think is that much biger. After all she said that she didint have much occasions to use her skills in the old world. While Koutaro had to fend for himself since he was kid.Still, I think that you're selling Kaede short against Koutaro. He was only that powerful in his dark wolf form and her experience can keep him from reaching that level before she beats him down.
Yeah i hate Tsukiyomi (everyone does) :mad:

Maybe you are right her performance was lackluster since the begining of the magic world arc.It has and she hasn't gotten any proper character development since the Mahora Tournament and her fight against Evangeline. And that really bugs me because she's my second favorite character in the series.
But I disagree on one point: This series need MORE Negi and asuna awesomes (plus koutaro he deserves place in the spotlight)Are you kidding? We need less of these two after this fight is over. That's probably why I don't rank this series higher on my interest list. I don't particulary care about the two main protagonists.

I have nothing against Koutaro getting more awesomeness showings. As long as Setsuna, Chachamaru, Kaede and Evangeline gets some as well.

OverMaster
04-02-2009, 05:17 PM
I see that you overestimate what CBR has done to me in terms of fandom. But I will try to hold down my inner shipper, because he's a psycho that would make TDK Joker raise an eyebrow.
I don't dislike the fiery girls, they can be fun and exciting. I just rarely seem them as good matches for the main characters. And when I do I still prefer the calm feeling that the quiet girls instill in the relationship. Also, I identify more with unconfident characters.
For me it goes Negi/Nodoka, Negi/Ayaka (another character that needs more screen time), Negi/Chachamaru, Negi/Makie, Negi/Yue and then finally Negi/Asuna.


Figures. I like Negi/Chisame exactly because she has the best qualities of the fiery and quiet types all in one convenient package. After that, it has to be Negi/Yue, and then Negi/Ayaka. A shame Akamatsu seems intended on forgetting Ayaka/leaving her reduced to one-note joke status. She deserves better, dammit!

Then again, I'm fine with Koutaro/Ayaka too.

Melchior
04-02-2009, 10:37 PM
Powerwise for the White Wing:

Supreme God Leader - Eva
1. Negi
2. Setsuna
3. Kaede

1-3 are essentially the same tier if they attempt to go all out. Setsuna and Kaede have the battlefield experience necessary to shut down Negi before he gets a chance to go Thunder God, though they are in serious trouble if he gets any of those major spells off.

4. Kotaro
5. Asuna

Honestly, full-powered/transformed Kotaro can probably pull 50/50 wins off of 1-3, and Asuna can do something similiar due to her magic cancelling ability fubaring so many things. Setsuna should still should have that skill gap that let her take Asuna down in the Mahora Tournament, and Kaede should be in that neck of the woods. In all honesty, I would put Kotaro in the first set, if not for his acknowledgement of Kaede's superior skill (and Setsuna's as well).

Essentially, 1-5 is the main striking arm. Chachamaru, on loan from Eva, would fall in the 3-5 range.

6. Ku Fei
7. Haruna

Both of these are fairly powerful, but should not be able to make consistent wins on any of the first five. Ku Fei has plenty of power and knowledge, but her lack of magic means that there is only one of the first five that cannot simply pull back and blow her apart at range. Ku Fei has a decent shot at Asuna, save for her Kanka supercharge. Haruna is the opposite. With her ability to make guardians, she will go down once her opponent gets in close. Oddly enough, Asuna has the easiest time as opposed to fighting Ku Fei, since Asuna's cancelling ability makes her one-hit-kill all of Haruna's attackers and defenders.

8. Yue
9. Anya

These two are essentially Negi at the beginning of the series. They have been trained in magic and a bit in battle, but have not really gotten enough power and combat experience to be more than reserves. Yue is working on that, though. Haruna would probably have been in this group if it was not for her artifact's ability to repeatably field combat units. Would not surprise me if at least some of the "funds" that she raised came from drawing up her own bandit company.

10. Nodoka
11. Kazumi and Sayo
12. Chisame
13. Konoka

These are all essentially noncombatants. Nodoka barely eaks out in front due to being a successful Adventuring Archeologist in the Magic World, obtaining multiple cursed items. Which is annoying, since she's probably read as much about magic as Yue before coming to the Magic World, but has not put any of it into practice. Kazumi and Sayo and Chisame are all essentially info-gatherers and warriors, currently with nothing to keep themselves from being taken down in a physical fight (and they could probably take down Nodoka if Nodoka let them hit her). Konoka is an odd duck. Magic power-wise, she is supposed to outstrip Negi. Physical skill-wise, she's in the same boat as Nodoka and Yue, though probably behind Yue at this point. Magic skill-wise, she is better than Nodoka, probably worse than Yue in the general stuff. On the other hand, no one can beat her with healing spells.... which really do not matter in a fight when you cannot mount a proper attack. The sad fact of the matter is that Yuna, provided with mage guns, could probably take all four/five at the same time and come out the winner.

I do not agree with Setsuna/Konoka. Now, Konoka/Setsuna, that's a whole other kettle of fish. :)

While I do not believe Negi and Ayaka will ever get together, I do believe that Negi and Kotaro will be what allows Ayaka to finally move past her little brother's death. Though she probably will still like younger men.

Nodoka might be shy and unconfidant, but next to Ayaka, she's the character that has made her feelings best known to Negi. Low confidence, but not cowardly.

On that note, the Yue/Nodoka growth paths are kinda interesting. Yue has pretty much single-mindedly focused on increasing her innate magical ability, while Nodoka has been removing the deficiencies in her artifact. Even before the Magic World, now that I think of it. I wonder if that is simply their difference in mindset: Yue wants to stand beside Negi as peer, Nodoka wants to solve the problems Negi cannot. While neither are a wrong way, I am uncertain how much longer Nodoka can stay with Negi (and she's not going to keep letting him go around without her) without some sort of magical boot camp like what Yue's gone through.

Two little joke things on the side:

During the match:

"And Nagi has activated his Thunder God Technique!" cries the announcer.

*Somewhere in an alternate universe, the 4th Hokage sneezes.*

After the match:

"Nagi, where did you learn those incredible techniques?" asks the announcer.

"From my Master!" exclaims Negi.

"And who is your master?"

"Evangeline A. K. McDowell."

"Hah, hah. No, really, who's your master?"

Negi frowned. "The 'Maga Nosferatu', the 'Puppet Master', the 'Dark Evangel', the 'Evil Sound', the 'Disciple of Catastrophic Noise', the legendary evil mage Evangeline A. K. McDowell. How else would I have gotten this ludicrously powerful?"

The announcer turns pasty white and starts making small hurt animal noises. Negi leans in, glances around, and continues in a whisper.

"Though, I think she's stopped trying to kill me nowadays. Something about finally getting to Midboss level. She just likes charging me an extra pint now and again."

Pong
04-03-2009, 12:28 PM
On Eva & Rakan:


Actually a point was made that the ancient dragons are on Evangeline's level, not the other way around. And like I said, she has magia erebea working for her.

Was it? :confused: I'm asking seriously, i could swear it was said that ancient dragons were even stronger than true vampires ... go figure :confused:

Anyway i think that at best shes on Jack level WITH magia erebea. Her base power didn't impress me all that much i mean in the Mahora tournament she did fight Setsuna while having her full power and LOST. OK her losing wasn't because she was weaker but she still was at least semi-serious and could not put Setsuna down.

As you place Setsuna rather low i think you wont argue that she could stand to even semi-serious Rakan (ie. he NOW is only semi-serious) ?

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. A group and a person are not the same things. But yeah, Ala Rubra were a bunch of badasses.


What I meant is that Ala Rubra is regarded as a invincible because ... well they never lost. And they taken everything magic world could throw at them. It must mean that it's members are really strong.

Heck Rakan was said to fight against everything from mages to magical beasts to fortress and everything in between and it's said that he ever lost only to Nagi.
He has so much experience that he probably already saw everything Eva cold throw at him.

on Koutaro and Kaede:

Still, I think that you're selling Kaede short against Koutaro. He was only that powerful in his dark wolf form and her experience can keep him from reaching that level before she beats him down.

Yeah but i don't think she can beat him down before he transforms. He can do that fast and she would have to knock him out to stop him since he only needs to want to transform to do it.

And he was keeping up with Kagetaoru before going into wolf form. And Kage-chan is apparently close the level o power Fate was using in his last fight with Negi (3000) and it was made rather clear that before Negi training with Rakan no one in Ala alba could fight with him .


So i think that base Koutaro should be able to keep up with her long enough to transform at which point he will probably gain upper hand.

OTOH she probably grown stronger during her time in the magic world...

On setsuna :

It has and she hasn't gotten any proper character development since the Mahora Tournament and her fight against Evangeline. And that really bugs me because she's my second favorite character in the series.


Yeah she looks kinda weak right now which isn't cool :mad:

And as for character development i think Akamatsu himself isn't sure where to take he after her fight with Eva since i resolved one of her major problems


So right now list looks something like that :


0. Evangeline (I'm not sure she's in Ala Alba, but I'm counting her anyway)
1. Negi
2. Asuna
3. Koutaro
3.5 Kaede
5. Ku Fei
6. Setsuna (she's lacking compared to the others and that pisses me off)
7. Chachamaru

would like to answer more points but have to go for now. Will be back in hal a hour.

Dark Soul # 7
04-03-2009, 02:51 PM
Was it? :confused: I'm asking seriously, i could swear it was said that ancient dragons were even stronger than true vampires ... go figure :confused:

Ancient Dragons are on Evangeline's level of power
Anyway i think that at best shes on Jack level WITH magia erebea. Her base power didn't impress me all that much i mean in the Mahora tournament she did fight Setsuna while having her full power and LOST. OK her losing wasn't because she was weaker but she still was at least semi-serious and could not put Setsuna down.In the Mahora Tournament she was basically playing around with Setsuna and still overwhelmed her by quite a lot. The only reason she won was because she brooke through the illusion. A feat that is not the same as defeating even a playing Evangeline at full power. And Fate was little more than an annoyance to her at best.

I believe that Evangeline is on Rakan's level on her base level. With Magia Erebea she'll take him.
As you place Setsuna rather low i think you wont argue that she could stand to even semi-serious Rakan (ie. he NOW is only semi-serious) ? We've never seen Evangeline more than semi-serious either or not hold back really. She's another character that needs more demonstrations of power. But one thing is that she is the true master of Magia Erebea while Rakan can barely hold it for a few minutes without large amounts of damage.
Heck Rakan was said to fight against everything from mages to magical beasts to fortress and everything in between and it's said that he ever lost only to Nagi. He has so much experience that he probably already saw everything Eva cold throw at him.She's over 500 years old and has fought idiots like Rakan before. She's probably seen everything he has to offer as well.
Yeah but i don't think she can beat him down before he transforms. He can do that fast and she would have to knock him out to stop him since he only needs to want to transform to do it.

And he was keeping up with Kagetaoru before going into wolf form. And Kage-chan is apparently close the level o power Fate was using in his last fight with Negi (3000) and it was made rather clear that before Negi training with Rakan no one in Ala alba could fight with him .Actually Rakan now ranks Fate as 8000 as shown here (http://www.onemanga.com/Mahou_Sensei_Negima%21/237/06/). So that argument is a bit of a moot point.
So i think that base Koutaro should be able to keep up with her long enough to transform at which point he will probably gain upper hand.

OTOH she probably grown stronger during her time in the magic world...True, we have yet to see her really fight either.
Yeah she looks kinda weak right now which isn't cool :mad: I agree fully.
And as for character development i think Akamatsu himself isn't sure where to take he after her fight with Eva since i resolved one of her major problemsThere's still her half-demon heritage that has barely ever been touched upon.
0. Evangeline (I'm not sure she's in Ala Alba, but I'm counting her anyway)
1. Negi
2. Asuna
3. Koutaro
3.5 Kaede
5. Ku Fei
6. Setsuna (she's lacking compared to the others and that pisses me off)
7. Chachamaru More or less I guess.

Pong
04-06-2009, 02:58 PM
Sorry for the wait but I was having problems with PC :redface: Gomen :biggrin:



Ancient Dragons are on Evangeline's level of power

Hmm yeah it seems you are right but that puts Eva on par with Rakan at best. And he might got stronger since then.


I believe that Evangeline is on Rakan's level on her base level. With Magia Erebea she'll take him.

Eh I disagree simply because Rakan but I suppose that neither of us have enough evidence to prove his case so we will just go in circles.



Anyway what events do you predict after this fight is over? Is there something you would want to see?

For me its probably Negi kicking Fate ass .

Dark Soul # 7
04-06-2009, 03:11 PM
Anyway what events do you predict after this fight is over? Is there something you would want to see?

For me its probably Negi kicking Fate ass .My dream scenario would be that after the fight, which Rakan won but Negi's new diplomatic friends pay for the girls to be set free :biggrin:, Fate's crew kidnapps the weakened Negi. This gives us a rescue Negi & Asuna arc where everybody who is a part of Ala Alba and isn't Negi or Asuna gets to kick much ass and be awesome up to the part where Negi is freed and he and Asuna are the only ones that can fight since they've been resting in their imprisonment and are the only ones that can stop Fate from whatever evil plan that tries to not be a cliche is.

Negi gets to be awesome and bladibladibla and Fate is forced to retreat and there's character development that is barely noticeable after they return to the real world and then we're finally back at the school after a teary farewell in england to Negi's sister.

When we get to the school it is revealed that the people there had an awesome adventure on their own and the next 20 chapters is just a flashback to that adeventure. Then Evangeline shows Negi the perfected magia erebea and he faints from her awesomeness.

...what? I can dream, can't I?:biggrin:

Dark Soul # 7
04-07-2009, 02:52 PM
new chapter

So Negi'll win. Whoopdidoo.

At least it's because he's smarter than Rakan and not that he over-powers him with his own strength. That's something at least.

But what was the special thing about the duplex complexio? It just looked like his standard lightning form.

EDIT: Also, Misora and Cocone cameo! HOORAYS! (yes I care more about this cameo than the fight)

Pong
04-07-2009, 03:07 PM
That. Was. Badass. :eek:

Not much more to say just... awesome

Only one thing bugs me: If he planed this from the start was what the point of the wangst couple of chapters ago?? :confused:


But what was the special thing about the duplex complexio? It just looked like his standard lightning form.

He can keep this form all the time and attack in it so Rakan cant catch him when he turns back to flesh and blood. Also he have reflex to match his 150 km/s speed


Edit: I think this week Negima has Nik Hasta "Most Badass Chapter Of The Week," award in spades :cool: (btw who won last week?)

Lord Darkwolf
04-07-2009, 03:33 PM
Only one thing bugs me: If he planed this from the start was what the point of the wangst couple of chapters ago?? :confused:




The wangst came before the planning according to the flashback last chapter chapter where he said he finally found his answer after Tok knocked some sense into him .

Pong
04-07-2009, 03:38 PM
The wangst came before the planning according to the flashback last chapter chapter where he said he finally found his answer after Tok knocked some sense into him .

No I'm talking when Rakan countered his first superspeed technique and smacked Negi. that was in chapter 244 and didnt make any sense lookin from current chapter perspective. :confused:

Lord Darkwolf
04-07-2009, 04:42 PM
Oh that ..... I think he was expecting the start up weakness and that Rakan would be able to take advantage of the lag , what he wasn't expecting was the phoning in his moves thing . That made it seems that Rakan was actually faster than him and THAT panicked him because if Rakan was truly faster then he'd be screwed .

Nik Hasta
04-07-2009, 05:02 PM
Edit: I think this week Negima has Nik Hasta "Most Badass Chapter Of The Week," award in spades :cool: (btw who won last week?)

Certainly a strong contendor right here.

Last week, I'm still calling Air Gear the winner for me simply because the epic death of an awesome major character was a set piece that no other series had going for it that week and it was handled brilliantly.

This week only Air Gear and Negima have come out so far and Negima is looking very strong to take the win here.

Dark Soul # 7
04-07-2009, 05:18 PM
Edit: I think this week Negima has Nik Hasta "Most Badass Chapter Of The Week," award in spades :cool: (btw who won last week?)Bah. I say Bah!

Nothing in Negima this week can possibly compete with the awesomeness that is the Lucy Kick from Fairy Tail.

And I'm Maybe serious about that.

Pong
04-08-2009, 10:40 AM
Oh that ..... I think he was expecting the start up weakness and that Rakan would be able to take advantage of the lag , what he wasn't expecting was the phoning in his moves thing . That made it seems that Rakan was actually faster than him and THAT panicked him because if Rakan was truly faster then he'd be screwed .

ah I hope You are right, otherwise it would make like no sense. But it would be lol worthy too see Negi's thoughts if that was the case:

"Sob... sob... I'm so weak...I can never beat Rakan... I can never reach dad's level.... I can never be like those incredible people .... Wait, wait .... I forgot that this is all going according to my brilliant plan. Feh almost depressed myself into defeat. Sorry everybody that a bad habit from the days when this was still a romantic comedy and i had to whine about everything.... good thing this is a full fledged shounen now with tournament arcs, villans, action and you know.... ACTUALL PLOT! Now they allow me to be awesome all the time. OK so back to the fight. OR WAIT! Since we have this introspection already lets throw a flashback so Ako and "whats-his-name-slave-bully" can get some character development so we can put them into background again without anybody whining so that we can focus one you know... Characters people care about! Oh and the fight which is actually interesting unlike those two. Yeah i knw it will take whole chapter but better to get it out of the way. And then.... Im back to being awesome"

Or something like that :cool:


?)
Certainly a strong contendor right here.

Last week, I'm still calling Air Gear the winner for me simply because the epic death of an awesome major character was a set piece that no other series had going for it that week and it was handled brilliantly.

This week only Air Gear and Negima have come out so far and Negima is looking very strong to take the win here.

Ah ok.

(Judging from set ups in previous chapters I think non of the "main' manga is going o top Negima this weak but I could e wrong.... probably not though :cool: )

Bah. I say Bah!

Nothing in Negima this week can possibly compete with the awesomeness that is the spoilers:
Lucy Kick
end of spoilers from Fairy Tail.

And I'm Maybe serious about that.

Isnt someone a little sour this week :tongue: ?

Dark Soul # 7
04-08-2009, 01:08 PM
Isnt someone a little sour this week :tongue: ?Sour about what?

I honestly think that Lucy Kick is more awesome than anything in Negima this week. There's also Tsukune being a badass and taking down thugs to protect Moka by his own power. That was cool.:cool:

OverMaster
04-08-2009, 02:35 PM
EDIT: Also, Misora and Cocone cameo! HOORAYS! (yes I care more about this cameo than the fight)

MISORA!

Must go read the chapter!

Dark Soul # 7
04-08-2009, 02:38 PM
MISORA!

Must go read the chapter!Hell yeah.

It almost puts the chapter on the same level as Lucy Kick.

Pong
04-11-2009, 01:02 PM
Aaaaaaaaand the spoilers are out And one thing has to be said

Holy crap!:eek:



Do NOT read the spoilers!

Negi pounds Rakan like a ragdoll and this time you know.... actually hurts him and THEN impales him with Rajinsou Titanoktonon. And EVERYONE is like

"Hurray for Negi cause he is awesome in his awesomeness!"

But then Rakan is like

SUCKER PUNCH

And then he is like

"I'm not done yet!"

And everybody is like

"WTF?!? What kind of monster IS he?!?"

And Negi is like

"I'm not done yet either!"

And everybody is like

"That fight is AWESOME hurray for Negi and Rakan!"

And Rakan is like

"Good fight lets warp this up!"

And Negi is like

"Sure why not."

And they hit each other

And then chapter ends.




From other awesome news therse ad for a new Negima OAD
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_abkMP58OLUA/SeCTYQrRS4I/AAAAAAAAMxQ/j_NmT55yao4/s1600/OAD%2BAd%2Bextra%2B01.jpg

Negi Asuna and Fate. Awesome.

RubberLotus
04-15-2009, 03:00 PM
Aaaaaaaaand the spoilers are out And one thing has to be said

Holy crap!:eek:



Do NOT read the spoilers!

Negi pounds Rakan like a ragdoll and this time you know.... actually hurts him and THEN impales him with Rajinsou Titanoktonon. And EVERYONE is like

"Hurray for Negi cause he is awesome in his awesomeness!"

But then Rakan is like

SUCKER PUNCH

And then he is like

"I'm not done yet!"

And everybody is like

"WTF?!? What kind of monster IS he?!?"

And Negi is like

"I'm not done yet either!"

And everybody is like

"That fight is AWESOME hurray for Negi and Rakan!"

And Rakan is like

"Good fight lets warp this up!"

And Negi is like

"Sure why not."

And they hit each other

And then chapter ends.




From other awesome news therse ad for a new Negima OAD
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_abkMP58OLUA/SeCTYQrRS4I/AAAAAAAAMxQ/j_NmT55yao4/s1600/OAD%2BAd%2Bextra%2B01.jpg

Negi Asuna and Fate. Awesome.

The chapter was only posted on Onemanga today. Do you live in Japan or something?

Lord Darkwolf
04-15-2009, 03:03 PM
The chapter was only posted on Onemanga today. Do you live in Japan or something?



Nah Raws and translation cam out two days ago . The raws were just too bad to make a scan ....

Pong
04-16-2009, 10:02 AM
The chapter was only posted on Onemanga today. Do you live in Japan or something?

Check the Astronerdboy blog for early spoilers.


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Boy oh boy very interesting chapter indeed :cool: So Negi surpassed Eva now huh? Well it's only goes to prove what Rakan said: Negi isn't some inconsequential shrimp anymore he's strong enough that even a member of the Ala Rubra has to praise him.

But man even with all that and using Rakan own power against him and hitting him with almost all he got he still could not defeat Rakan completely even when he was going easy on him whole fight. Goes to show how utterly broken Top tiers are.

It's a great conclusion to this awesome battle Negi finally a man now. I only hope he will act like one from this point and not like a self loathing kid anymore.

Dark Soul # 7
04-16-2009, 10:23 AM
And I just don't care anymore.

Call me when something fun starts happening in the series.

Lord Darkwolf
04-16-2009, 04:19 PM
And I just don't care anymore.

Call me when something fun starts happening in the series.




Ehhhhh ? I thought that this was what you wanted .....Negi gave his all and still didn't beat Rakan ..... why do you seem upset ? Did you want him completely crushed and demoralized ?!!!

Dark Soul # 7
04-17-2009, 01:47 AM
Ehhhhh ? I thought that this was what you wanted .....Negi gave his all and still didn't beat Rakan ..... why do you seem upset ? Did you want him completely crushed and demoralized ?!!!Well... not demoralized, but a little crushed...

Like I said before I just don't care that much for Negi, or Asuna. And the novelty of a ten year old reaching this level of fighting power has worn out on me.

Mostly I guess that I'm a bit mad about the whole surpassing Evangeline in how to use her own freaking technique.

Again, he's ten years old an in one or two months, thanks to the time disortion thing, he's surpassed a 500 year old super-vampire in how to use a technique that she herself developed. That just doesn't sit right with me.

Sorry, but that's the way I feel.

Nik Hasta
04-17-2009, 04:01 AM
I'm a bit underwhelmed to be honest.

Pong
04-22-2009, 04:36 PM
New chapter out. And its... ok.

The fight was a draw but Negi impresses Rakan so he gives him his half of the money. They free the girls and everyone is happy. Rakan and eva praise Negi.

All in all this chapter is just there to end the whole tournament plot.

Only two interesting things.

1) Its confrmed tat at some point Negi will give in to the darkness. So my prediction my come true.

2) There will be some doctor coming to Negi and in like couple of minutes. This may be without much significance but I have gut filing it will be someone important. My money is on Zect.

RubberLotus
04-22-2009, 05:17 PM
Not the best of Akamatsu, but every writer has his bad days. Hopefully, this week's One Piece will be better.

Dark Soul # 7
04-23-2009, 12:27 AM
1) Its confrmed tat at some point Negi will give in to the darkness. So my prediction my come true.Nowhere does it say that.

He's been hurt by the dark magic that is magia erebea, as should be expected.

Also, Rakan the Human Atomic Bomb is a hilarious moment.

Pong
04-23-2009, 02:35 AM
Nowhere does it say that.

He's been hurt by the dark magic that is magia erebea, as should be expected.

I meant from the context. They would not mention it again and again if in fact it wasn't going to happen.

Besides Eva said hat they will have to do something about it eventually indicating that something bad is n fact going to happen.

Not to mention that Negi was going into the dark side little by little for a long time now.



Also, Rakan the Human Atomic Bomb is a hilarious moment.

:biggrin: :biggrin: Agreed! That give me some good laugh.

I as liked the facial expression of Kotaro in pages 4 and 6. Just.... shows exactly what hes thinking.

Dark Soul # 7
05-09-2009, 02:06 AM
A new Negima!? Neo chapter is out and it is easily the best Negima chapter that I have read in months, or ever. Yeah, best Negima chapter EVER!

OverMaster
05-09-2009, 06:21 AM
A new Negima!? Neo chapter is out and it is easily the best Negima chapter that I have read in months, or ever. Yeah, best Negima chapter EVER!

The one with all the KonoSet stuff? You naughty thing, you.

Dark Soul # 7
05-09-2009, 06:37 AM
The one with all the KonoSet stuff? You naughty thing, you.Hey, I'm a shipper freak first and a pervert second.

It was also very satisfying to see Tskuiyomi tossed aside so easily.

RubberLotus
05-09-2009, 07:09 AM
Odd. Before these posts, I didn't even think you guys knew the Neo!? version existed.

OzBat!
05-10-2009, 10:45 PM
Well, I just discovered the Mahou Sensei Negima series, and now I'm going through withdrawal. Was there an update, did I miss it?

And what's the appeal of the Neo series? How does it relate? Is it really just a retelling of a story still in progress, or is there something else to it?

Pong
05-12-2009, 06:01 PM
I finally got time to read new Negima!? Neo chapter and I have to say ...meh

Yeah yeah Setsuna has crush on Konoka same old same old... we all know that we all support the paring and all but at this point it became just boring and repetitive... may I'm just in bad mood.


But I admit it was VERY satisfying seeing Tskuiyomi getting stomped. I don't like her shes both creepy and annoying. Bad combination.

Dark Soul # 7
05-13-2009, 02:00 AM
I finally got time to read new Negima!? Neo chapter and I have to say ...meh

Yeah yeah Setsuna has crush on Konoka same old same old... we all know that we all support the paring and all but at this point it became just boring and repetitive... may I'm just in bad mood.But we've never seen an entire chapter devoted to it like this, or Konoka reciprocating the feelings like she was obviously doing here. And best of all, there was actually some development in the relationship between the two of them.

Another great thing was the refreshing feeling of having a chapter without Negi or Asuna on a single page.:biggrin:

RubberLotus
05-13-2009, 01:28 PM
Well, this was certainly better than last week's.

Looks like Yue's finally been found. This plus Chacha-chan's detection of two badges = they realize something is horribly wrong

And I'll be praying all week for at least two of those girls to make a Pactio with Negi.

Robotech Master
05-13-2009, 02:16 PM
Ku Fei should totally gets dibs on a pactio. I don't know how many pactio's they plan to make, but she's been a frontline combat member of Negi's growing party since the start, but she's slowly falling behind all the other combat types. A pactio which granted her some kind of high speed combat armor with special fighting gloves of some kind would be sweet for her.

After that, the one I'm feeling the most hype for would be Makie. Akira getting one out of the blue here would seem kind of weird. Natsumi kinda just got diss-missed.

Yuna and Ako are distinct possibilities, though I'd still prefer Makie. Yuna seems the most excited, and has proven that her family's talents run in her blood.

I'm hoping for at least 3 pactios.

Pong
05-13-2009, 02:28 PM
I read new Negima chapter and I have to say: someone got his priorities wrong. I don't care how he justifies it or what pretty words he uses, his duties as a teacher are NOT more important than saving whole world full of hundreds of millions innocent people from total destruction at the hand of a madman! No just no!
Saving your homies and hauling your asses to safety isn't the right thing too do.

It's kinda sad that Negi will probably only thwart Fate plans because they involve Asuna. His father stooped the war and saved the world because he wanted to give everybody a chance to live in peace. Negi? Yeah he will stop Fate but only because he got his girlfriend? Otherwise he would got to safety and pretend it's not his problem.
I'm disappointed really. Negi got stronger yeah but he still ave a long way to go to equal his dad. Not only as a mage but as a person too.

And this is extra weird when you consider that back in Chao arc he was wiling to get trouble not only on himself but also on his friends (as well as probably never see them again) if Chao would prove that revealing magic would bring more good than harm to the world.


Shit another block of text no one will be bothered to read :frown:


PS. Dark Soul # 7 I will respond to your post later so don't worry about it ok?

Nik Hasta
05-13-2009, 03:22 PM
Yeah, I'm starting to not give a crap about Negima again.

It's lost it for me again.

MegamiMiko
05-13-2009, 03:54 PM
I read new Negima chapter and I have to say: someone got his priorities wrong. I don't care how he justifies it or what pretty words he uses, his duties as a teacher are NOT more important than saving whole world full of hundreds of millions innocent people from total destruction at the hand of a madman! No just no!
Saving your homies and hauling your asses to safety isn't the right thing too do.

It's kinda sad that Negi will probably only thwart Fate plans because they involve Asuna. His father stooped the war and saved the world because he wanted to give everybody a chance to live in peace. Negi? Yeah he will stop Fate but only because he got his girlfriend? Otherwise he would got to safety and pretend it's not his problem.
I'm disappointed really. Negi got stronger yeah but he still ave a long way to go to equal his dad. Not only as a mage but as a person too.

And this is extra weird when you consider that back in Chao arc he was wiling to get trouble not only on himself but also on his friends (as well as probably never see them again) if Chao would prove that revealing magic would bring more good than harm to the world.


Shit another block of text no one will be bothered to read :frown:


PS. Dark Soul # 7 I will respond to your post later so don't worry about it ok?
It's not like he's just abandoning the Magic World. Like he said as long as Fate's not going to destroy everything right away it makes perfect sense to regroup at Mahora, make sure the non-fighters are safe and clear everyone's name before taking action. That way they can explain everything to the authorities so it won't be all on them to save the world.

OverMaster
05-14-2009, 05:45 PM
Leaving the goddamn magical world already and going back to Mahora is okay in my book, so... OM approves. Morals, schmorals. :tongue:

sam16
05-15-2009, 04:02 PM
It's not like he's just abandoning the Magic World. Like he said as long as Fate's not going to destroy everything right away it makes perfect sense to regroup at Mahora, make sure the non-fighters are safe and clear everyone's name before taking action.

The new translation up on mangahelpers has Haruna explicitly stating this to the girls. Also, Negi's probably thinking that things will be okay for a short while because Jack 'Mr. Broken' Rakan knows about Fate.

Lord Darkwolf
05-23-2009, 09:59 AM
Spoilers for 251 are out .
Otherwise know as KA's "Damn you NEGIMA NEO ! Do you honestly think you can defeat ME ?!!!" declaration "


.....It's a really good time to be a Kono/Set fan.

RubberLotus
05-23-2009, 02:25 PM
Spoilers for 251 are out .
Otherwise know as KA's "Damn you NEGIMA NEO ! Do you honestly think you can defeat ME ?!!!" declaration "


.....It's a really good time to be a Kono/Set fan.

... Akamatsu also writes Neo, you know. It just happens to have a different artist.

OzBat!
05-26-2009, 01:15 AM
And what's the appeal of the Neo series? How does it relate? Is it really just a retelling of a story still in progress, or is there something else to it?
So the same writer does both? I'm still not sure what the difference is between the two stories. Can anybody explain it for the total noob?

OverMaster
05-26-2009, 06:15 AM
So the same writer does both? I'm still not sure what the difference is between the two stories. Can anybody explain it for the total noob?

Neo is more episodic in nature, much less epic. Kinda inspired in tone by the second Negima?! TV series.

Oh, and Anya is student number 32 there. I hate Anya.

Dark Soul # 7
05-27-2009, 03:03 PM
Chapter 252 is out. These are my thoughts through the entire chapter.

p.1-4: Yeay, Konoka & Setsuna focused chapter! And hey, Setsuna gets some more characterisation. All is finally good again in Negima town! Hooray!

p.5-8: No, booo! Don't want more of these people right now. This new jerk is probably overcompensating for something with that stupidly big army behind him, and what's the thing that the kid is holding.

p.9: Wait. Who's he talking about? Is that a name I should remember? Should I go back and look it up? I actually don't really care that much anyway. She's probably just a cool person we won't focus enough on.

p.10: YEAY! We're back and Konoka and Setsuna! YEAY!

p.11-12: Please, pretty please let Setsuna look cool now. Please!

p.13: ...yeah. That's cool.

p.14: Kiss on the cheek! Kiss on the cheek. Look at the title! Remember what they said on the forum! KonoSetsu alarms at red alert! Prepare for full squeal mode!

p.15-16: It's coming, it's coming, it's, coming, it's coming, it's coming... etc.

p.17: ...I can not express how awesome this is. It is just so beautiful. I could cry tears of shipper joy.

p.18: Heh, Konoka's milking it. Good girl. Finally Setsuna has a proper pactio weapon instead of that weakass dagger thingy she got from Negi, and this one Negi can't use with his cheapass pactio.

All in all. Awesome chapter!:biggrin:

MegamiMiko
05-27-2009, 05:33 PM
what's the thing that the kid is holding.
It's a sword isn't it?
p.9: Wait. Who's he talking about? Is that a name I should remember? Should I go back and look it up? I actually don't really care that much anyway. She's probably just a cool person we won't focus enough on.
You mean Arika? She's the princess from Rakan's flashback movie.
and this one Negi can't use with his cheapass pactio.
He probably can't use it anymore anyway since they said it would be cancelled after the tournament was over.

Melchior
05-27-2009, 09:12 PM
I wonder if the kid is another Shinmei-ryū swordsperson.... graaaah, they are just everywhere!

Downside to latest chapter: Konoka would have gotten more chances at making out with Setsuna without the brief jump back to Negi & company.

Upside to downside: crazy dude has revealed Negi's mommy (though he's obviously either gone evil or is being controlled, so accuracy is probably off). And that means Negi might really be a foreign prince.

*At Mahora*

Ayaka: I suddenly feel like something I always said was irrefutably proven.

Evangeline: And I suddenly feel like committing regicide. Weird.

Ayaka: Well, to each their own. Want to try the strawberry tarts next?

HectorP
06-02-2009, 08:44 PM
I read new Negima chapter and I have to say: someone got his priorities wrong. I don't care how he justifies it or what pretty words he uses, his duties as a teacher are NOT more important than saving whole world full of hundreds of millions innocent people from total destruction at the hand of a madman! No just no!
Saving your homies and hauling your asses to safety isn't the right thing too do.

Homies? :confused:

They are his students first thing and he's bound to bring them back to safety. You make it sound as if Fate is about to nuke the entire world with Negi watching, and people in charge of stuff, including Rakan who is stronger than Negi, know about Fate already. Negi should end up being the one beating Fate but he doesn't know he's in a shonen.

Upside to downside: crazy dude has revealed Negi's mommy (though he's obviously either gone evil or is being controlled, so accuracy is probably off). And that means Negi might really be a foreign prince.

*At Mahora*

Ayaka: I suddenly feel like something I always said was irrefutably proven.

Evangeline: And I suddenly feel like committing regicide. Weird.

Ayaka: Well, to each their own. Want to try the strawberry tarts next?

This is great. But I suspect Evangeline already knew.

Robotech Master
06-03-2009, 03:11 PM
New chapter out at OM. Everyone's thinking about the Pactio, albeit in a more serious light than they need to, since Paru blew it out of proportion.

So Ku Fei does have those kinds of feelings for Negi after all. BTW, why the heck does everyone in-universe say that Ku isn't very attractive or appealing...look at that, she's easily in the top 5 of 3A.

Sayo new body, cool. She can have proper interactions with Mahora students when she gets back if they run with it.

Yuna...daddy issues. Wow. Innocent elektra complex is one thing...but that...wow.

Natsu pactio with Kotaru is obvious.

Poor Akira.

Ku and Makie definately should go for Pactios with Negi, and Natsumi with Kotaru. Not sure about Akira...but Yuna could be interesting if she gets magical guns or something.

Dark Soul # 7
06-03-2009, 04:20 PM
My dislike for Haruna just keeps growing and growing.Ku and Makie definately should go for Pactios with Negi, and Natsumi with Kotaru. Not sure about Akira...but Yuna could be interesting if she gets magical guns or something.I'd actually like it if there were some people that didn't go through with it.

OverMaster
06-03-2009, 05:41 PM
So Ku Fei does have those kinds of feelings for Negi after all. BTW, why the heck does everyone in-universe say that Ku isn't very attractive or appealing...look at that, she's easily in the top 5 of 3A.


Meg Griffith Syndrome, I guess. Maybe if she just acted somewhat more... feminine is not the word... aware of her own feminity, maybe?, others would take her beauty more seriously.

Although I wouldn't put her in the Top 5, personally.

Nik Hasta
06-03-2009, 07:30 PM
I was not really awake when reading this chapter.

Too much talking, too much generic Akamatsu worrying about kissing stuff.

OverMaster
06-04-2009, 06:15 AM
I was not really awake when reading this chapter.

Too much talking, too much generic Akamatsu worrying about kissing stuff.

Dude, romantic comedy. It says so in the can.

HectorP
06-04-2009, 02:29 PM
Dude, romantic comedy. It says so in the can.

I wasn't expecting anything else when I started reading the manga. I liked the Sayo/Chachamaru parts the best off that chapter.

Nik Hasta
06-04-2009, 03:14 PM
Dude, romantic comedy. It says so in the can.

I just wish he could write another kind of romantic dichotomy.

RubberLotus
06-04-2009, 05:24 PM
Random matchup not important or serious enough to be on the Rumbles Board: If Ayaka fought the Joker, who would win?

HectorP
06-04-2009, 05:30 PM
Random matchup not important or serious enough to be on the Rumbles Board: If Ayaka fought the Joker, who would win?

Ayaka knows martial arts but doesn't have any of the vaguely superhuman traits other martial artists like Kaede and Ku had early on in the manga. Joker soaks some and then flowers her. Damn you for the mental image. :mad:

OverMaster
06-04-2009, 05:35 PM
Random matchup not important or serious enough to be on the Rumbles Board: If Ayaka fought the Joker, who would win?

Joker pulls a gun out. Joker shoots Ayaka. The End.

Epilogue: He then is scolded by Urd, who yells at him, "What kind of example are you giving our daughter this time?!" while pointing at Zazie.

RubberLotus
06-04-2009, 05:40 PM
Joker pulls a gun out. Joker shoots Ayaka. The End.

Epilogue: He then is scolded by Urd, who yells at him, "What kind of example are you giving our daughter this time?!" while pointing at Zazie.

I thought it was Pennywise who was married to Urd, not Joker. Also, I meant H2H, but in that case, Joker probably gets steamrolled.

OverMaster
06-04-2009, 05:49 PM
I thought it was Pennywise who was married to Urd, not Joker. Also, I meant H2H, but in that case, Joker probably gets steamrolled.

Blame that damn Superboy Prime.

Even hand to hand, it's iffy. Ayaka is definitely more skilled, but Joker seems to have a much better damage soak, is smarter, and has more years of experience and better endurance to sheer pain. I'd still bet on him.

RubberLotus
06-04-2009, 07:37 PM
Blame that damn Superboy Prime.

Superboy Prime: You hurt my feelings!

(Punches Source Wall again, causing Negi to become engaged to Eva and Setsuna to turn into a guy)

Dark Soul # 7
06-05-2009, 03:31 AM
Superboy Prime: You hurt my feelings!

(Punches Source Wall again, causing Negi to become engaged to Eva and Setsuna to turn into a guy)He turned Setsuna into a guy?

*brings out crowbar and sprays it with Adam West Batman's anti-Superboy Prime spray*

DIE BITCHBOY PRIME! DIE!

Robotech Master
06-08-2009, 10:35 AM
I just got around to watching the most recent 3 episode OVA. That was some pretty awesome stuff, but it just teases me constantly about how there isn't a full TV series that will adapt everything the way this adapted the White Wing establishment arc.

In particular, the OVA started out with an adaptation of the final exchange of Chao vs. Negi, which was awesome...and God I want that whole fight animated now.

Lord Darkwolf
06-17-2009, 05:38 PM
chap 254 .


...... IT'S A EVIL MALE TSURUKO !!!! :eek:

Dark Soul # 7
06-18-2009, 05:14 AM
I like this new villain. He's cool and has a sense of style. ANd he's funny.

*holds fingers that Setsuna and her awesome new pactio comes to save the day.chap 254 .


...... IT'S A EVIL MALE TSURUKO !!!! :eek:What's that?

HectorP
06-18-2009, 04:07 PM
If Tsuruko appeared and taught the governor some manners, it'd rank as one of my favorite Negima moments of all time, but it won't happen. :frown:

What's that?

Tsuruko is the freakishly powerful (and scary-looking when fighting) older sister of Motoko Aoyama (who looks like Akira from Negima) from Love Hina, also by Akamatsu. The Aoyamas belong to the same clan of exorcist swordsmen as Setsuna, Eishun, Tsukuyomi and Godel from Negima. Tsuruko was the leader of the clan in the past.

Dark Soul # 7
06-24-2009, 04:38 AM
Ok, now Setsuna definately has to be the one to fight Godel and kick his ass with her new pactio.

If that doesn't happen I'll be very disappointed.

But first, time for another History lesson with Jack Rakan!

I'd like to see where he ranks the rest of Negi's team.

Pong
06-24-2009, 06:14 PM
Was sic, Is sorry for not responding

Ok with that out of the way ...


So if I Understood correctly Shiori is getting infected by Asuna feelings for Negi and thus runs risk of falling in love with him. And when that happen her technique will stop working... did I get it right ? Its sort of confusing.


And woot Rakan is back. My second favorite Ala rubra member even before Nagi himself. And what more he has some answers this time!

Also am I the only one who thinks that Negi looks like SSJ3 in his "lighting god" mode?

Also good thing that he escaped using his own power. If he didn't I would be disappointed. He is the guy who fought Rakan to draw for crying out loud!


Ok, now Setsuna definately has to be the one to fight Godel and kick his ass with her new pactio.

If that doesn't happen I'll be very disappointed.

I think its still long way to go for Setsuna before she can defeat Godel. She didn't even be Tsukuyomi yet! And Godel is crazy strong I think. Probably around current Negi level and Negi is now in the Big league... probably on the bottom of it but still there. So it will take more than new pactio for Setsuna to be able to defeat him.



I'd like to see where he ranks the rest of Negi's team.

Hmm good question. Negi himself I would put around 1200 -1500 in base form and somewhere between 4000 and 6000 when in "lighting god" mode. Not higher than that probably .

Kaede is probably around base Negi level with Setsuna being little weaker 900-1000 ( not counting her new artifact) Neither of them should be above 2000 since I doubt that they are at Takamichi level.

Asuna theoretically may be at his level since they both use Kanka and her abilities are broken. So she around 2000 maybe more (but not above 2500).

Koutaro should be around Kaede level in base form around Ttakamichi level int second form and at Kagetaoru level in full wolf demon form (3000).

I do the rest later

Robotech Master
06-27-2009, 10:01 PM
Just saw the opening for the upcoming Magical World OVA that will be coming out soon.

I'm not sure exactly what portions of the Magical World Arc its going to try to adapt, but the great and rather surprising revelation was: Negi and Kotarou vs. Rakan and the Kage guy.

Man, I can't wait to see that fight animated.

Robotech Master
07-02-2009, 12:10 PM
New chapter: So Rakan can perform one of the ultimate techniques of the Shinmeiryuu sword style just because he's watched Eishun do it over and over before. He defies logic again.

I wonder if Setsuna's gonna master it and be the one who fights Godel. I'm sure she'd rather name it something other than "In celebration of my first kiss with ojou-sama attack."

Dark Soul # 7
07-02-2009, 01:22 PM
I think its still long way to go for Setsuna before she can defeat Godel. She didn't even be Tsukuyomi yet! And Godel is crazy strong I think. Probably around current Negi level and Negi is now in the Big league... probably on the bottom of it but still there. So it will take more than new pactio for Setsuna to be able to defeat him.Blahdiblahblahblah don't care about levels and such shit.

It's about time Setsuna got to fight her own big time villain. Godel's perfect for that. Maybe she can access her demon heritage more and combine that with her pactio.

Anything to put the spotlight on somebody who isn't Negi or Asuna for a fight.

Pong
07-02-2009, 06:58 PM
Blahdiblahblahblah....

That was kinda rude you know?

It's about time Setsuna got to fight her own big time villain. Godel's perfect for that. Maybe she can access her demon heritage more and combine that with her pactio.

I agree but the thing Is, Godel needs more build up in his villainy for hisdefeat to be truly satisfying. So while they should fight it should happen further down the road.

For now she has Tsukuyomi who deserves a beating.

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Also woot new chapter!

Glad to see that Rakan didn't become any less badass after tournament.

" -You are a good artist!"

"-I have no weak points"


So the ones going one the ball are Negi, Asuna and Rakan huh? Well it was obvious that Asuna would not let Negi go without her but for Rakan to tag along is a plesant suprise.

And so the plot thickens... once again.

OzBat!
07-02-2009, 07:36 PM
" -You are a good artist!"

"-I have no weak points"I laughed like a nut at that point. Rakan is a simply brilliant character.

cosmic eagle
07-03-2009, 12:17 AM
Question, how strong is Rakan in the entire Negiverse anyway?

And can he withstand a hydrogen bomb at ground zero? An asteroid strike? The sun's interior?

HectorP
07-03-2009, 03:35 AM
I've liked the recent direction of the series. Setsuna has to beat Tsukuyomi way before she can expect to go against Godel.

Question, how strong is Rakan in the entire Negiverse anyway?

He's up there, the army and magic beasties don't cut it against him because he cuts their airships in half, beats on groups of their skyscraper sized demon soldiers and stalemates their sacred dragon, the people on his level are other Ala Rubra members like Nagi who tied with him frequently, Evangeline, Godel possibly because he was a genius and student of Eishun, and strong Cosmo Entelecheia members like Fate Averruncus.

The mage of the beginning was horribly above him.

And can he withstand a hydrogen bomb at ground zero? An asteroid strike? The sun's interior?

Lawl. Whatever it takes to blow up a mountain, I think he can endure it comfortably especially if he shields himself with his willpower.

Robotech Master
07-05-2009, 04:09 PM
Interesting development here:

Apparently the Magic World is on Mars. So this means the future Chao came from is actually the future of the Magic World.

Gamiel
07-06-2009, 06:27 AM
Question, how strong is Rakan in the entire Negiverse anyway?

And can he withstand a hydrogen bomb at ground zero? An asteroid strike? The sun's interior?

He is Rakan - Chuck Norris call him master.:biggrin:

Pong
07-06-2009, 01:07 PM
He is Rakan - Chuck Norris call him master

That would explain a lot :biggrin:



Interesting development here:

Apparently the Magic World is on Mars. So this means the future Chao came from is actually the future of the Magic World.



Wait how does that one work out?!

Robotech Master
07-06-2009, 01:37 PM
I have no friggin idea, since it ends with that revelation. My guess is, either MM:

1) Exists on an alternate mars, like in a seperate plane or something.

2) Is visually, or perhaps entirely sealed away from normal space while still technically occupying that space. IE, its there, but people who haven't done something specific (pass through a gate) won't be able to actually interact with or see any of it. A similar premise appeared in To aru Majutsu no Index, where a villain's hq--one filled with powerful magic and littered with the corpses of his fallen enemies--was literally a public school, but no one ever knew because his base and the school were, as they put it, two sides of a coin. People on one side of the coin couldn't interact with the other, so you had stuff like school students walking straight through corpses and puddles of blood without coming into contact with them, even though they occupied the same space.

3) Might exist on a seperate time plane. Perhaps with a complicated relation to Earth in terms of time. For instance, perhaps MM exists on Mars in 10,000 BC, but the gates sychronize with Earth in 2007, and they continue on like that (one year in MM would make it 2008 on Earth on the other side of the gate, while MM is now occupying the Earth equivalent of 9,999 BC on Mars).

Pong
07-06-2009, 02:25 PM
Oh now that You mention it I remember that it was stated that Magic world is "out of phase" with normal world so probably #2 is right.

Dark Soul # 7
07-09-2009, 01:06 PM
Mars huh? That's pretty weird.

And can we go one chapter without everybody praising each other? I get it. All of them are awesome. Stop shoving it in my face and just let them show it instead.

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Pong
07-19-2009, 04:35 AM
Chapter 258 spoilers.




Adult Fate appears at the ball and talks with Rakan. Rakan says something about "wiping his own ass"

Magic world ("mahousekai") isn't Mars it exists in sort of magical space ("isekai") as opposed to real world ("genjitsusekai"). But it's sort of attached to Mars.

Negi may never return to mahora again (maybe that part kinda unclear)

Also theres part where Negi and Asuna relationship reminds Rakan of Nagi and Arika ( complete with one panel flashback showing them having exactly the same kind of interaction- only with members of Ala Alba swaped with corresponding ones from Ala Rubra: Negi-Nagi Setsuna-Eshuin etc.) Interesting...



OK that's all for now folks! Be sure to comment.

cosmic eagle
07-19-2009, 07:30 AM
I've liked the recent direction of the series. Setsuna has to beat Tsukuyomi way before she can expect to go against Godel.



He's up there, the army and magic beasties don't cut it against him because he cuts their airships in half, beats on groups of their skyscraper sized demon soldiers and stalemates their sacred dragon, the people on his level are other Ala Rubra members like Nagi who tied with him frequently, Evangeline, Godel possibly because he was a genius and student of Eishun, and strong Cosmo Entelecheia members like Fate Averruncus.

The mage of the beginning was horribly above him.



Lawl. Whatever it takes to blow up a mountain, I think he can endure it comfortably especially if he shields himself with his willpower.

And what about higher?

OverMaster
07-19-2009, 08:47 AM
Negi may never return to mahora again (maybe that part kinda unclear)



Oh God, please no. The sooner they leave the Magical World (maybe bringing Rakan along), the better for me.

Robotech Master
07-22-2009, 04:28 PM
Chapter out. They mainly discuss the Mars revelation, and we get to see a few mentions of Chao and how her story might ominously link up with the fate of the magic world.

Their short discussion about Setsuna's choice of ball-wear was cute, and Rakan was funny as always.

But the big thing is: Rakan vs. Fate. I wonder what Rakan's intentions are. Is he going to seriously fight, or does he want to have some kind of heated discussion with Fate for some odd reason?

And if he does want to fight, how the hell does he think the two of them can go at it inconspicuously while so close to the ball?

Pong
07-22-2009, 04:36 PM
Chapter 258 is out!

And I have to say... Akamatsu delivers. This guy is just genius. If he isn't the best current shonen mangaka I don't know who else could claim that title!

This chapter has buttload of revelations, some of them I mentioned in the spoilers. It also gives us tips about what Fate meant by saying that he wants to save the world.

Did anyone noticed reference to famous anime movie?

Rakan vs Fate? Cool but im not sure if they will actually fight.

Rakan flashback means game over for lots of ships.

Edit: Ninjad by Robo-chan (can I call you that? :smile: )

Melchior
07-22-2009, 08:57 PM
Random Brainstorming:

Chao's "Mars will become inhabitable in the future," Fate's attempt to make a new world/destroy the old, and Negi's mutterings in this chapter about bounded alternate spaces leads me to believe this series of plot points (in Chao's timeline):

1. Fate destroys most of the gateways that anchor the Magical World plane to the Normal World plane. This weakens the grand spell that holds the Magical World half-a-step off of the normal reality.

2. Fate uses the uber-magic-nullifying field to tear a huge metaphorical hole through the Magical World. He basically rips out a huge chunk of the alternate reality spell. This also fubars most of the people who would normally be able to fight him/screw-up the next part of the plan.

3. Fate jumps through the Ostia portal, and takes it down. The Magical World no longer has proper anchors to the Real World, and can no longer properly sustain itself. It starts drifting/falling apart.

4. Either as a back-up safety to the uber-spell, or an act of the major wizards at Ostia working together, the Magical World's phase space is drawn back into the Normal World's phase space. Damage to the spell, however, has the Magical World super-imposed on Mars.

(4-2? Fate uses the vast dregs to super-power himself in Ascension or some other strange thing. Mostly steps out of history here).

5. Mars gains a huge load of atmosphere and mass from the Magical World. While it will help in terraforming, it is not enough to currently support life on Mars. Massive casualties throughout the world, as mages try to errect barriers to prevent decompression and the like. Major locations and supporters of Fate probably have special lockdown sections specifically for this, but most of the villages and common populance die.

6. Mages try to get help from the only source they can - Earth. The problem is this is a truly unexpected event, has every initial appearance as a hoax, and every wizard with major power most likely has to stay back and power shields. This means that every government balks at helping the thousands (probably hundreds of thousands, possibly millions) of survivors in terms of food, aid, transport, and assistance in setting up gates to retrieve people from Mars. Untold more die during this period, since all major help would take months, at minimum, to arrive.

7. Eventually, the refugees are saved, humanity recognizes magic, there are some squabblers about everything, and humanity settles down. Mages start going back to Mars with scientists, and manage to terraform the planet and restart the "Magical World" again. Many years pass, and the actual events are obscured by history.

8. Chao is born, grows, and discovers the truth behind the incident. She constructs her time machine and goes into the past for two major reasons. First, the magic-recognition spell. In the worst-case scenario, this spell would help the governments move faster and be more willing in assisting the mages in saving their kind. Her future technology, until that point sealed, will be pulled out to make the trip faster, and hopefully significantly more will survive She also knows her grandpa will be there, and hopes that with greater resolve and more support, Negi can swing a victory/take out one of Fate's steps and prevent the incident from occuring.

Just my two cents, of course.

Dark Soul # 7
07-22-2009, 11:11 PM
Chapter 258 is out!

And I have to say... Akamatsu delivers. This guy is just genius. If he isn't the best current shonen mangaka I don't know who else could claim that title!Eiichiro Oda with One Piece, easily. The revelation in last week's One Piece curbstomps the revelation in this week's Negima.

Ookubo Atsushi and Hiromu Arakawa are good runner-ups to Oda.

The only part I cared about this week was the part about Setsuna's outfit. It was nice.

Robotech Master
07-25-2009, 05:35 PM
Rakan confronts Fate, and their discussion leads to the appearance of Fate's four partners (the four girls, minus Shiori who is still Asuna). A battle breaks out between them. Rakan seems to be toying with them at first, still flipping skirts and teasing them. The girls start using some powers they haven't revealed before. One of the girls who created that dimension trap previously can transform into a cat-girl monster, and the fire girl can use a number of really powerful fire attacks. Rakan gets serious and manages to capture both of these two. They he asks them why girls as powerful as them want to follow Fate.

RubberLotus
08-02-2009, 08:06 PM
Wow. You can tell that Negima has really gone down the tubes when the new chapter's been out for more than a day with virtually zero discussion.

Robotech Master
08-02-2009, 08:59 PM
meh, not in my opinion. But the translator was late this week because of summer vacation, and after next week there will be a 3 week break.

Its a good thing Fate's girls are quick with their hands. I like the fire girl and the fact that she has a fire form similar to Negi's lightning form.

MegamiMiko
08-05-2009, 05:11 PM
Wow. You can tell that Negima has really gone down the tubes when the new chapter's been out for more than a day with virtually zero discussion.
I don't think that's it, Negima's always been and still is very consistent in quality.

Dark Soul # 7
08-05-2009, 11:51 PM
I don't think that's it, Negima's always been and still is very consistent in quality.Yeah, lackluster recently.

Well except for Koutaro's dark wolf and the KonoSetsu kiss.

MegamiMiko
08-06-2009, 04:01 PM
Yeah, lackluster recently.

Well except for Koutaro's dark wolf and the KonoSetsu kiss.
Depends on what you expect from the series I guess.

HectorP
08-07-2009, 03:41 AM
Negima has been great all through this arc.

I'll miss Sevensheep when they go back, and wish there had been more of Nodoka's new friends.

Robotech Master
08-09-2009, 02:37 AM
New chapter got translated. It was late, as the translator said it would be due to his vacation, but at least it makes the break the Shounen magazines are taking next week seem shorter.

As expected, Rakan kicks ass. We get to see some of what those girls are capable of when going all out though. They'll be good opponents for Negi's girls later on.

I like Homura. She's cute and feisty, and the fire form + the eye sight explosion are a great power set. She never called out an artifact name, so I wonder if she still has something else too.

Fate gets a little more complex. He once saved 60 some odd war orphans back then. According to Rakan he is more "human" than the previous two.

Lots of fangirl squealing will probably ensue from the dance scenes. So Tosaka is interested in Ako, and Craig is seriously going after Nodoka. Shiori is probably on the brink of losing her cover, and Natsumi/Kotarou was probably the cutest scene.

Godel is ready to pull something. But near the end, when we saw that the Misora and Sakura Duos are in attendance, there was another couple focused on that I didn't recognize. Who are they? Some people are saying it might be Takahashi and Mana in disguise, since they are in the Magic World. I'm not sure I can jump to that conclusion yet, but I do wonder where the heck those two are.

Dark Soul # 7
08-09-2009, 04:24 AM
I really liked the design for the violin playing wood girl. That one look cool yet elegant. Hopefully she'll get good action scenes in the future.

Fate suddenly became lots more interesting. Hopefully his and Rakan's fight won't be skipped over entirely.

Yeay, Misora and Cocoe cameo!:biggrin:

And we better see a Setsuna/Konoka dance scene before Godel pulls his big old plan.

Gamiel
08-09-2009, 04:33 AM
I am beging to like Fate to, he knows his place in the world.

Robotech Master
08-13-2009, 05:04 PM
Small Spoiler, yet satisfying...


Ku Fei Pactio

Number: 12
Color: Yellow
Astrology Sign: Mars
Title: Pugilatum Exercens (Means: Fighting Expert)
Virtue: Courage
Direction: West

Artifact: Combat Staff, most likely another Journey to the West inspired weapon.

Pactio appears to take place somewhere during the ball. That's all I've got so far. That's just two pages. Rest of the spoiler probably comes out tomorrow night.

Robotech Master
08-19-2009, 08:31 PM
Scanlation up finally.

Ku Fei is one of my favorites. I don't know why; always found her hot, always thought her confused faces were the funniest expressions in the manga, etc. Heck, even the muscle you see in this chapter was hot. I'm glad to see her get a pactio since I think it was long overdue. She hasn't gotten to do much since her punch failed against Fate.

Other thoughts:

*The buildup for Natsumi/Kotarou is surprisingly cute.
*Sakura Mei-Chan!!!
*Ku Fei's dress...wow. I wonder if she's wearing one of the more daring outfits.
*Maybe I lost count somewhere, but why is Ku's card number 12? The eleventh pactio was *him* forming a pactio with Theodora, so shouldn't Negi's card be numbered in order of how many pactio's Theodora has made?
*Interesting feat for Ku during the arm wrestling. Their hands never hit the table the first time, so she formed that crater beneath the table on pure momentum.

al103
08-20-2009, 07:20 AM
*Maybe I lost count somewhere, but why is Ku's card number 12? The eleventh pactio was *him* forming a pactio with Theodora, so shouldn't Negi's card be numbered in order of how many pactio's Theodora has made?

Negi's ministra have they class roster number on they pactio cards.

OverMaster
08-20-2009, 12:10 PM
Negi's ministra have they class roster number on they pactio cards.

I wonder if there is a any in-story reason to it, or it's just a meta-plot convenience. If it's the former, I suspect there might be some truth to the theory about Konoemon setting the class as a partner pool for Negi.

Robotech Master
08-30-2009, 12:05 AM
New Chapter,

Natsumi and Chachamaru are both pretty cute in this chapter.

We know Ako's lack of confidence has something to do with that scar on her back, but I wonder why Natsumi is always so down on herself. Is it really just the freckles and red hair?

Anyways, it was nice to see the two of them interact like that. Natsumi gets an interesting pactio card, and seeing Koutaro give points to the other girls was humorous. Favorite part was when Natsumi admitted her feelings, realized it, stuffed the Ermine in Kouta's mouth, ran off, and started headbanging while saying "who do I think I am, the class rep?"

Spoilers for next chapter, in case anyone didn't read the obvious signs.

Chachamaru gets a pactio that dresses her up into some kind of cyber cat girl with a tail, ears, and a gun shaped like a cat.

Robotech Master
09-03-2009, 11:37 AM
New Chapter: More Chachamaru wind up sexual innuedo.

In fact, I think this one was rather more intense than the previous wind up. Negi doesn't even realize what he's doing to the poor girl.

The set up for the Pactio was pretty standard, but I really liked the fact that, initially, the card wasn't going to appear, and Negi basically said "Hey Pactio Spirits, who the hell do you think I am!!! Give her a pactio or screw off!"

Dark Soul # 7
09-03-2009, 11:42 AM
GO AKIRA!

That's all I'm saying.

Robotech Master
09-03-2009, 12:07 PM
GO AKIRA!

That's all I'm saying.

There's a part of me that really wants Makie to get one, because then all 5 of the Baka Rangers have one.

Then the final battle with Fate's five girls can be the girls vs. the Baka Rangers.

Dark Soul # 7
09-03-2009, 12:11 PM
There's a part of me that really wants Makie to get one, because then all 5 of the Baka Rangers have one.

Then the final battle with Fate's five girls can be the girls vs. the Baka Rangers.With Setsuna and Tsukuyomi being the respective sixth rangers I pressume.

How does one beat Tsukuyomi without her getting some kind of twisted pleasure from getting beat up?

Robotech Master
09-03-2009, 12:23 PM
With Setsuna and Tsukuyomi being the respective sixth rangers I pressume.

Yeah, she's definitely Setsuna's opponent. Plus there are still two servants who never unmasked themselves that could serve as opponents for Chachamaru and Kotarou/Natsumi. I think that covers all of the direct combat types.

How does one beat Tsukuyomi without her getting some kind of twisted pleasure from getting beat up?

By starting with severe brain damage.

Pong
09-03-2009, 01:10 PM
It's good think tat Negi is too young to understand some things or things would be rather awkward :biggrin:

Also I liked that Negi allowed his inner nerd out this chapter.


GO AKIRA!

That's all I'm saying.

There's a part of me that really wants Makie to get one, because then all 5 of the Baka Rangers have one.

Then the final battle with Fate's five girls can be the girls vs. the Baka Rangers.


/sorry my good men but I think this round of pactios is over.


Overall those chapters were very good- much better than I predicted-and all the girls I wanted to get pactio got it. But I'm happy we are back to the main plot.
I want to know whats with Rakan.

Hazard
09-03-2009, 02:00 PM
I want to know whats with Rakan.

Shonen rules dictate that he should either a) have been beaten off screen, or b) their fight was somehow interrupted and both him and Fate are fine. Of course that's just guessing on my part.

Negi was just awesome this chapter. He really has become one of the few male leads that actually deserves his harem.

Pong
09-03-2009, 02:40 PM
Shonen rules dictate that he should either a) have been beaten off screen, or b) their fight was somehow interrupted and both him and Fate are fine. Of course that's just guessing on my part

Yeah pretty much it.



Negi was just awesome this chapter. He really has become one of the few male leads that actually deserves his harem.

Quoted for 100% freaking truth.

One of the things i like about Negi is that he is so unique among his peers. He is subversions of typical traits of both Typical shonen hero and typical harem lead.

In this times of carbon copy's he really stands out. :biggrin:


BTW Am I the only one who liked the fact that he given in to his inner nerd this chapter? That was really nice moment. No wonder girls are falling for him: He's cute/handsome (to the point of radicalness), gentle, caring, brave , strong AND smart. He's probably all girls dream of when thinking about a prince on white horse.


Someone tell me how Akamatsu pull him off without making him gary-stu again?

sam16
09-04-2009, 03:25 PM
Someone tell me how Akamatsu pull him off without making him gary-stu again?

Simple. His virtues also have downsides. His intelligence makes him over think things, worry about his students when they are in danger and become indecisive when his opponent has a valid argument. His determination makes him over extend himself and push things too hard.

OverMaster
09-04-2009, 05:09 PM
Simple. His virtues also have downsides. His intelligence makes him over think things, worry about his students when they are in danger and become indecisive when his opponent has a valid argument. His determination makes him over extend himself and push things too hard.

That, and the bad guys don't job to him.

Nik Hasta
09-04-2009, 05:39 PM
So, guessing I was the only one that was made a little uncomfortable by the whole extreme keywinding of Chachamaru then?

It just smacked a little of implied molestation for me, definetely kind of creepy. Especially since she's only two and Negi's only ten. Just a bit weird for my tastes.

Though bonus points for Negi apparently forcibly giving her a soul.

Hazard
09-04-2009, 05:49 PM
So, guessing I was the only one that was made a little uncomfortable by the whole extreme keywinding of Chachamaru then?

It just smacked a little of implied molestation for me, definetely kind of creepy. Especially since she's only two and Negi's only ten. Just a bit weird for my tastes.

Though bonus points for Negi apparently forcibly giving her a soul.

Ever since I heard Koyomi saying, "There stood a high school boy who, forgetting himself, forcefully sexually harassed an elementary school girl with all his might. But I at least want to believe that wasn't me." everything else just falls short of bothering me.

al103
09-04-2009, 09:48 PM
Though bonus points for Negi apparently forcibly giving her a soul.

I call bullshit on that one. She had soul long ago. I'm pretty much sure that by Akamatsuverse rules all sentient beings with emotions have one.

OverMaster
09-06-2009, 08:10 AM
Ever since I heard Koyomi saying, "There stood a high school boy who, forgetting himself, forcefully sexually harassed an elementary school girl with all his might. But I at least want to believe that wasn't me." everything else just falls short of bothering me.

Oh! Someone else who is watching Bakemonogatari!