Mahou Sensei Negima discussion thread

[Pong]

347 scanlation is out:


First part of the chapter was funny. Ku fei is a very gracefull loser.


Chisame is getting annoying, but Chachamaru to the rescue



Asuna shows up and proves herself to be an awesome female lead and excellent partner. Other girls should take notes.


"Negi sensei's number one girl is Asuna I guess"


Makie should get a captain obvious cookie ™ for making a not very radical guesses.



Now that the secret is out I wonder what's going to happen.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Slightly better chances than it being Evangeline, at any rate. :smile:Really? Cause I was kind of counting her to the obvious bunch.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Why does Chisame even need a contest to punch him? Isn't that kind of part of her job already?

So who else is going to confess before the festival is over?

[Robotech Master]

Why does Chisame even need a contest to punch him? Isn't that kind of part of her job already?

So who else is going to confess before the festival is over?

Makie already did back in the magic world right? And Ku Fei and Yue just got there's out of the way.

I think that accounts for most of the characters that are seriously crushing on him. I mean, I don't think Ayaka has to really say anything, and she seems strangely content to not move past "gush blood from nose and make fancy fantasy statements."

Possibly Ako, depending on whether or not she moved past the whole Nagi thing or not.

MaybeAkira, but I honestly don't know whats going on in her head.

[Pong]

Possibly Ako, depending on whether or not she moved past the whole Nagi thing or not.

.

Oh, God I beg you, no more Ako!


So what do you guys think of the letest revelations? Now that the girls know, Thing migth get pretty intense.

I predict: The rest of the class trying to zerg rush Negi and Asuna and the two of them escaping.

[Robotech Master]

Oh, God I beg you, no more Ako!


So what do you guys think of the letest revelations? Now that the girls know, Thing migth get pretty intense.

I predict: The rest of the class trying to zerg rush Negi and Asuna and the two of them escaping.

Knowing that Negi does plan to answer the girls later on in life and not ignore them goes a long way towards derailing their whole reason for this scheme. I mean, that's why the Cheerleaders just dropped out of it.

Those who want to know who it is might continue to try something. Asakura has also already set the whole 'borrow' thing in motion, so supposedly someone has to win just for the points for the school festival.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I'm still betting on the Konoka & Setsuna partner duo showing up to challenge Negi & Asuna to make a point that they won't just let them disappear due to their conditions, or something like that.

But mainly I'm hoping for something like that to show that Konoka fixed Setsuna's sad mood in her own way so that we can have our awesome shinmeiry hanyo back now.

[Pong]

I think that maybe girls will accuse Negi of favoring Asuna. But then they find how great her sacrafice is they become ashemed of themselves. After that, I think Negi may... break. Look at him in 347, it's obvious that guilt is eating him from inside out. Heck I'm betting that next arc will be started by Negi looking for alternative mesures to sealing Asuna.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I think that maybe girls will accuse Negi of favoring Asuna. But then they find how great her sacrafice is they become ashemed of themselves....what?

No. That is definately not going to happen.

They're not that kind of people.

[Pong]

...what?

No. That is definately not going to happen.

They're not that kind of people.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090804000748/wikiality/images/6/6a/NotSureIfSerious.jpg

[Dark Soul # 7]

They, the ones that do have crushes on Negi, would get somewhat jealous. maybe even disappointed and be in a funk for a time while pretending to be ok.

But they wouldn't be so mean as to accuse Negi of something like that. I can see some of them avoiding him. But at the end of the day they'd be happy for him.

Of course, they all hinges on Asuna being the girl that Negi is crushing on. Which hasn't been confirmed at all.

It might just as well be Nodoka or Evangeline or Kaede or Poyo. We don't know yet.

[Pong]

-snip-

It's like you didn't read the current arc at all. When Negi was spontanously declared the "enemy of womankind" and where they prepared a school-wide hunt on him. With goddamn orbital lasers.

Yeah there are more reasonable girls among them but they were "overvoted" so to speak.


And it dosen't have to be Asuna. Given the end of the chapter I can see them simply jumping to that conclusion.

[Dark Soul # 7]

It's like you didn't read the current arc at all. When Negi was spontanously declared the "enemy of womankind" and where they prepared a school-wide hunt on him. With goddamn orbital lasers.

Yeah there are more reasonable girls among them but they were "overvoted" so to speak.They're already mellowing out and the enemy of womankind bit is more of a joke by now.

And how would any of this equal them accusing Negi of favouring somebody he crushes on? Most likely they'd take away the "enemy of womankind" marker and say that they're happy he's decided to settle on somebody.

[Robotech Master]

They're already mellowing out and the enemy of womankind bit is more of a joke by now.

And how would any of this equal them accusing Negi of favouring somebody he crushes on? Most likely they'd take away the "enemy of womankind" marker and say that they're happy he's decided to settle on somebody.

Exactly. The "enemy of womankind" bit was referring to the fact that Negi's, uh, "natural gigolo charm" as Chisame puts it, was getting a ton of girls interested in him, but he might not have any interest in them, leading him to ignore them in the future when he grows up to instead focus purely on the magic world revival plan and the search for his father.

Literally all he had to say was "well, there sorta is someone..." and the Cheerleaders spawned teacups out of hammerspace and said they were content. Misa isn't even upset about the pactio kisses anymore, as long as she now knows he's not going to ignore the women.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Exactly. The "enemy of womankind" bit was referring to the fact that Negi's, uh, "natural gigolo charm" as Chisame puts it, was getting a ton of girls interested in him, but he might not have any interest in them, leading him to ignore them in the future when he grows up to instead focus purely on the magic world revival plan and the search for his father.

Literally all he had to say was "well, there sorta is someone..." and the Cheerleaders spawned teacups out of hammerspace and said they were content. Misa isn't even upset about the pactio kisses anymore, as long as she now knows he's not going to ignore the women.Once whoever it is that he kind of likes the class will probably throw them an engagement party after the festival.

Because they're class 3-A! :biggrin:

[master of read]

at this point, i really couldnt care. all these damn confession are just boring me now.

[Dark Soul # 7]

at this point, i really couldnt care. all these damn confession are just boring me now.They are kind of samey aren't they?

What we need is a confession that doesn't end in both parts pulling back out of embarrassment and actually ends with a loving embrace and some make out time.

Setsuna! Go confess your incredibly obvious feeling for Konoka right this instant!

[master of read]

They are kind of samey aren't they?

What we need is a confession that doesn't end in both parts pulling back out of embarrassment and actually ends with a loving embrace and some make out time.

Setsuna! Go confess your incredibly obvious feeling for Konoka right this instant!

that i could get behind. its about the only couple i like.

everything else just seems................i dont know. phoned in. like there's no effort.

[Dark Soul # 7]

that i could get behind. its about the only couple i like.Also, it's cute girls making out. Giggity. :biggrin:

everything else just seems................i dont know. phoned in. like there's no effort.Don't know about that. But I do know that the harem aspect isn't exactly my main interest.

[master of read]

Also, it's cute girls making out. Giggity. :biggrin:
Don't know about that. But I do know that the harem aspect isn't exactly my main interest.

me too but its really getting out of hand for my tastes. especially with all the throw away girls.

[Dark Soul # 7]

me too but its really getting out of hand for my tastes. especially with all the throw away girls.Indeed.

But it's time to disperse this negative atmosphere and to do that I only need to say two words.

JACK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU518SE3hUI) RAKAN! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saVX9O8uqrE&NR=1&feature=endscreen)

[master of read]

Indeed.

But it's time to disperse this negative atmosphere and to do that I only need to say two words.

JACK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU518SE3hUI) RAKAN! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saVX9O8uqrE&NR=1&feature=endscreen)


the only reason why i read this manga in the first place. :biggrin:

[lomiller]

346 scanlation is out.

I'd missed the part about Negi actually having somebody that he's interested in. I wonder who it'll be.

My (somewhat wild) guess is Satsuki

Low key enough to be a surprise, but with enough foreshadowing so that it wouldn't seem completely random.

[lomiller]

Indeed.

But it's time to disperse this negative atmosphere and to do that I only need to say two words.

JACK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU518SE3hUI) RAKAN! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saVX9O8uqrE&NR=1&feature=endscreen)

I wonder if he's the "older tougher more muscular" type guy Ku says she normally likes... :evilsmile:

[lomiller]

348 is out. lol at Chizuru's artifact :eek: but I guess it should have been expected

[Robotech Master]

Chizuru's artifact is pretty scary. The secondary effect could be pretty useful. Between her and Nodoka, you could probably get anything out of any captive.

I'm betting that Setsuna is helping the others because Konoka is interested (Gossip girl). Nodoka and Yue turning on the others to make the unreveal happen was kinda expected.

I would actually really like to see Zazie vs. Negi in an all out battle, with Zazie wanting to just because she wants to have fun.

If Akira's pactio is going to be that Mermaid thing Ken alluded to, I wonder what kind of power it will give her that would allow her to defend or hide Negi?

[Dark Soul # 7]

You know Chamo, you annoying little rat thing. Maybe you could get more to agree to the stupid pactio if you weren't so creepy about it!

Sadness that my Konoka/Setsuna vs. Negi/Asuna bit didn't come true. :frown:

[Pong]

Soooooooooo... anyone still thinks that what the girls are doing is alrigth after they tried to mind-rape Negi to satiate their curiosity.

frankly speaking it dosen't matter what their motives are. They are going waaaay to far.


And seriously I have nothing aginst Akira, she's a nice girl. But if it turns out that this arc was just a set-up for her getting a pactio it wil a waste of time beyond belief. I mean more significant characters like Ku and Cha-chan got their pactios over with in one chapter... both of them in a row. Nothing about Akira would justify having whole arc as a setup.

[Hazard]

Soooooooooo... anyone still thinks that what the girls are doing is alrigth after they tried to mind-rape Negi to satiate their curiosity.

frankly speaking it dosen't matter what their motives are. They are going waaaay to far.

Yeah, there is a line and they crossed it over two miles ago.

Really, who would have thought Misa would have been among the more sensible ones of the class.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Yeah, I'm various degree of disappointed in the girls here.

Majorly disappointed in Kaede, Natsumi, Zazie and Chizuru.

Less disappointed in Nodoka and Yue since they actually decided against it. Also less in the twins and Yuna since they're weird like.

Not at all disappointed in Haruna because she's always been an invasive freak.

[Robotech Master]

I'd put Chizuru in the same category as Yuuna IMO. Girl's strange. Zazie is, well, a demon.

I'm fairly certain Natsumi is being peer pressured into it. She's not going to stand up to the girls like Akira would.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I'd put Chizuru in the same category as Yuuna IMO. Girl's strange. Zazie is, well, a demon.Yeah, but for all her strangeness I kind of saw her as a motherly type. That and I thought that her manga version was less freaky than her Negima!? version

I'm fairly certain Natsumi is being peer pressured into it. She's not going to stand up to the girls like Akira would.Wonder how they got Kaede into it though.

[Pong]

Spoilers are out!

and man, it seems like the girls REALLY shoot themselves in the foot this time!


after Akira pactio and high speed transports Negi to a water area, she meets the worst possible match she could get from 3A, the ice elemental of Eva, only Yotsuba saves the day,

Hakase confirms to 3A that Chao's family tree book now are just BLANK PAGES! implications are...

[RubberLotus]

Pardon me, dear chaps, but I believe that I just heard our Northern European death-god companion going:

http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz309/RubberLotus/GordonFacepalm.jpg

[Dark Soul # 7]

Pardon me, dear chaps, but I believe that I just heard our Northern European death-god companion going:Why? Because of Akira getting a pactio?

Maybe... if I actually cared all that much about Akira.

Of course, I should care about her because she's so important that she gets a pactio in an incredibly forced situation where the majority of the girls are acting like obsessive and invasive little brats. Then again, there is a worrying lack of respect for privacy in this series.

Seriously. It's problem most of the characters in the series have. Nobody has any sense of regard for peoples' personal space. Most of the time it kind of ok I guess... but in the current situation it's getting a bit disturbing and annoying.

Bleh. I'm gonna go re-read the chapters where Misora eavesdrops on confessions in order to gain gossip.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Spoilers are out:

Seems like we'll get a cute scene between Asuna and Takahata and apparently the last few pages are great. 10 bucks that YMMV on that.

Now lets forget this arc entirely since it was pretty damn bad.

[RubberLotus]

Spoilers are out:

Seems like we'll get a cute scene between Asuna and Takahata and apparently the last few pages are great. 10 bucks that YMMV on that.

Now lets forget this arc entirely since it was pretty damn bad.

There was an arc in there somewhere? :eek:

[Dark Soul # 7]

There was an arc in there somewhere? :eek:Of course.

It was the "Have most of the girls act like immature assholes so that we can force Akira into a pactio and remind everybody that this is in fact a harem manga"-arc.

[Kusanagi]

Just got into this series, mainlined the whole thing in a couple weeks and I have to ask is it ending? Now naturally they still have to deal with the whole Nagi issue, but are there any plans to keep the series going beyond that? I ask cause with the girls graduation, openly wondering about their futures, and the deal with Asuna (especially this last chapter) it all feels like an epilogue.

[Robotech Master]

Just got into this series, mainlined the whole thing in a couple weeks and I have to ask is it ending? Now naturally they still have to deal with the whole Nagi issue, but are there any plans to keep the series going beyond that? I ask cause with the girls graduation, openly wondering about their futures, and the deal with Asuna (especially this last chapter) it all feels like an epilogue.

No, the Nagi issue and the issue of the government having something to do with Negi's village being attacked are still there for them to deal with.

I have a feeling that Asuna getting sealed away is going to get interrupted by the next set of antagonists or something.

Only saw a low qual of 350 so far. A decent little ending to a controversial little mini-fluff inbetween arc, and a fairly heartwarming scene between Asuna and Ayaka.

I don't think it can be near the end though. For one, the ending to Negima will likely be advertised and announced. Secondly, his original plan a long time ago was for the magic world to be the penultimate arc, so if he wanted to end it soon, there would be no reason to go past it.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Read the low qual version of the chapter.

I enjoyed how Konoka rather simply ejects herself out of the harem with a few comments and how Mana just plainly said "No." at the idea of her being Negi's crush.

The ending was cute and the display of friendship between Ayaka and Asuna really touching.
No, the Nagi issue and the issue of the government having something to do with Negi's village being attacked are still there for them to deal with.Not to mention the whole harem thingamabob needing to be resolved. Interesting that Haruna of all people doesn't want a harem ending.

I've been thinking that we'll get a time-skip soon enough as most of the important events seem to be a few years into the future.

If that's the case hopefully the rest of the fighters will have caught up by then.

[RubberLotus]

Y'know, it'd be funny if the manga ended with ALL of the girls together with someone else, and Negi alone.

Akamatsu loooooves taking tropes apart. Why not the ever-dreaded romantic subplot? :wink:

At least Dark'll be happy.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Y'know, it'd be funny if the manga ended with ALL of the girls together with someone else, and Negi alone.

Akamatsu loooooves taking tropes apart. Why not the ever-dreaded romantic subplot? :wink:

At least Dark'll be happy.Please.

As long as Konoka, Setsuna, Misora and Evangeline don't end up with him I'll be happy.

What?

I semi-ship Evangeline with Al.

[OverMaster]

Y'know, it'd be funny if the manga ended with ALL of the girls together with someone else, and Negi alone.

Akamatsu loooooves taking tropes apart. Why not the ever-dreaded romantic subplot? :wink:


Sometimes, some ideas are rarely done because they are freaking bad ideas.

That is one of them.

[RubberLotus]

Sometimes, some ideas are rarely done because they are freaking bad ideas.

That is one of them.

If comrade Napoleon, er, OverMaster says it, then it must be right!

But if I ever want to make a niche of my own in Negima-fic, that'll probably be it. You've already taken every other pairing. :tongue:

[Pong]

I could say some bad things about what's going on in Negima ever since the end of MW arc.

It's like Akamatsu himself has little idea where he wants to take the story now.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I'm rather surprised that Konoka hasn't gotten a chapter to say good bye to Asuna.

She should be on par with Setsuna and Ayaka in terms of friendship and all that.

[lomiller]

The higher quality 350 is out, and 351 as well. No specific goodby for Konoka but it looks like they talked off screen and we get to see her reaction when Asuna is leaving. (Setsuna, seems to be having a little extra fun lol)

I didn't mind this arc as much as some others. The Negi romance has never interested me much to begin with so I guess I've learned to tolerate it, and it was kind of fun to watch everyone acting like idiots, and if they didn't show a lot of common sense, they are still kids after all.

[Nik Hasta]

Hey a chapter of Negima that didn't cause me to make this noise. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8FpigqfcvlM#t=83s)

That was nice.

[OverMaster]

they are still kids after all.

My problem is, after more than 340 chapters and eight years of reading, I just want them to move from being "just kids". It feels like they've stagnated character wise despite everything they've gone through.

Not telling most of the class Asuna would go forever was a major dick move, especially after the end of Mundus Magicus made clear they all would be there for her no matter what.

[Dark Soul # 7]

*reads new chapter*

Meh.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Checking through the class roster apparently a lot of things happened durings those five months.

- Valentines is noted on Nodoka, Akira, Chisame and either Makie or Ku Fei.
- Christmas is noted on Sakurako.
- Satomi has been scouted, probably for the project an possibly for Gödel's behalf.
- There seems to have been some incident regarding Tsukuyomi stalking Setsuna and Konoka.
- Family members have been noted on Makie, Ayaka and Yuuna.
- Not to mention other weird little notes. Like, why does Sakurako have maximum luck and how is she scary?

Anything else I missed? Probably a lot

[Robotech Master]

Checking through the class roster apparently a lot of things happened durings those five months.

- Valentines is noted on Nodoka, Akira, Chisame and either Makie or Ku Fei.
- Christmas is noted on Sakurako.
- Satomi has been scouted, probably for the project an possibly for Gödel's behalf.
- There seems to have been some incident regarding Tsukuyomi stalking Setsuna and Konoka.
- Family members have been noted on Makie, Ayaka and Yuuna.
- Not to mention other weird little notes. Like, why does Sakurako have maximum luck and how is she scary?

Anything else I missed? Probably a lot

These are what I noticed, in total, that seemed new.

Ayaka: About Uncle.
Chisame: Valentines
Sakurako: Incident on Christmas
Konoka: Incident with Tsukiyomi
Misora: She was the priest
Ako: About her back; Megalo
Sayo: Incident during war; heart/love with the headmaster
Satsuki: That recipe
Evangeline: I won
Fuuka: About the twin boys
Mana: Request as body guard
Haruna: About the Paru-sama; wanted in the magic world
Akira: Valentines
Yuna: About her mother
Zazie: Princess of the demon realm; is the demon realm Venus?
Nodoka: Valentines
Fuumika: An exceptional technique?
Chao: Parallel world?
Setsuna: About the stalker Tsukiyomi
Madoka: With Kotarou?
Misa: Master of Romance; attention required?
Kazumi: Promise for Information
Natsumi: Kotarou's girlfriend (crossed out)
Satomi: Scout her. Contact Godel.
Kaede: About her family name
Makie: Should meet with her little brother. Possibly valentines
Ku Fei: Possibly valentines. Will have an annual match with her on new years day.

[Dark Soul # 7]

These are what I noticed, in total, that seemed new.

Ayaka: About Uncle.
Chisame: Valentines
Sakurako: Incident on Christmas
Konoka: Incident with Tsukiyomi
Misora: She was the priest
Ako: About her back; Megalo
Sayo: Incident during war; heart/love with the headmaster
Satsuki: That recipe
Evangeline: I won
Fuuka: About the twin boys
Mana: Request as body guard
Haruna: About the Paru-sama; wanted in the magic world
Akira: Valentines
Yuna: About her mother
Zazie: Princess of the demon realm; is the demon realm Venus?
Nodoka: Valentines
Fuumika: An exceptional technique?
Chao: Parallel world?
Setsuna: About the stalker Tsukiyomi
Madoka: With Kotarou?
Misa: Master of Romance; attention required?
Kazumi: Promise for Information
Natsumi: Kotarou's girlfriend (crossed out)
Satomi: Scout her. Contact Godel.
Kaede: About her family name
Makie: Should meet with her little brother. Possibly valentines
Ku Fei: Possibly valentines. Will have an annual match with her on new years day.A bunch of them are circled and seem to refer to events that have happened. I wonder if we'll get to see some flashbacks to this stuff later on.

...probably not.

[OverMaster]

A bunch of them are circled and seem to refer to events that have happened. I wonder if we'll get to see some flashbacks to this stuff later on.

...probably not.

Like someone said in another board, it's like Akamatsu just quit on trying and tossed all that around to, pardon the French but there's no other word for it, cocktease.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Well some of those things were events that happened during the series. I think that the ”I won” thing was from way back when he first took on Eva and Chachamaru after forming a Pactio with Asuna.

Anyone else thinking that the girl he is a little interested in is his own mother, and the reason he isn't telling anyone is because they're all already worried about his obsession with his dad?

[Dark Soul # 7]

Well some of those things were events that happened during the series. I think that the ”I won” thing was from way back when he first took on Eva and Chachamaru after forming a Pactio with Asuna.Yeah. But there's still a lot that was new and seemed to refer to stuff that we hadn't seen. Like the Tsukuyomi incident, valentine's day, the war thing related to Sayo, the crossed out stuff about Kotarou and Natsumi's relationship and more.

This would all probably be great filler material if the series had an anime that followed the manga like One Piece and Naruto.

Anyone else thinking that the girl he is a little interested in is his own mother, and the reason he isn't telling anyone is because they're all already worried about his obsession with his dad?Never actually occurred to me.

I'm going to stick with my Poyo guess.

[RubberLotus]

This would all probably be great filler material if the series had an anime that followed the manga like One Piece and Naruto.


Of course, such a series would be a double-edged sword. Ask yourself: is seeing the Kyoto/School Festival/Whatever arc fully-animated worth the risk of multiple filler arcs similar in tone and quality to what the manga just went through?

'cause that's more than likely.

[Robotech Master]

Of course, such a series would be a double-edged sword. Ask yourself: is seeing the Kyoto/School Festival/Whatever arc fully-animated worth the risk of multiple filler arcs similar in tone and quality to what the manga just went through?

'cause that's more than likely.

I don't begrudge or regret the Naruto anime.

And I had to watch a ninja ostrich recount to its grandchildren the story of how it once fought alongside Naruto.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Of course, such a series would be a double-edged sword. Ask yourself: is seeing the Kyoto/School Festival/Whatever arc fully-animated worth the risk of multiple filler arcs similar in tone and quality to what the manga just went through?

'cause that's more than likely.Now now. Not all filler is bad.

One Piece generally has some fun and overall entertaining filler. Bleach has generally good filler, one of which have been excellent.

Plus, filler tend to explore characters that miss out of the screen time. And if you're lucky they'll extend certain fight scene in a kickass manner.

*happily dreams of an extended filler fight between Setsuna and Tsukuyomi on par with the Magical World OVAs'

[OverMaster]

Anyone else thinking that the girl he is a little interested in is his own mother, and the reason he isn't telling anyone is because they're all already worried about his obsession with his dad?

IIRC, he mentioned a talk with the girl he's interested in, so I highly doubt that's Arika.

Sadly, no one seems to give a crap whatsoever about her or what happened to her.

[OverMaster]

Game Over, Man! Game Over! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-02-03/negima-magister-negi-magi-manga-to-end-in-3-more-chapters)

[Pong]

WTF?


Seriously is he having some Private problems that prevent him from continuing? Because this came out of left field!

[Hazard]

Is the manga doing badly on volume sales or something like that? Because if it is not that and he doesn't have any problems, then the only thing I can think of is that he just lost interest in it.

[Pong]

I think it actually does rather well.

[OverMaster]

Is the manga doing badly on volume sales or something like that? Because if it is not that and he doesn't have any problems, then the only thing I can think of is that he just lost interest in it.

Some people has speculated, based on things he's said himself in the Net, he's having health problems.

[Robotech Master]

Some people has speculated, based on things he's said himself in the Net, he's having health problems.

Damn. Went through this same thing with School Rumble: a manga gets all the way to what appears to be its last arc, then ends in a few weeks instead.

Well, that sucks.

[Beacon]

Didn't the same happen with Shaman King?

(Man, what a crappy ending to a great series)

[lomiller]

wow :(

Unless the speculation of a new series/name is true this must have been a sudden decision. It would not have been that hard to wrap up most of the lose ends at the end of the MW arc, but as things stand now I can't see pulling everything together is a satisfying way with the time left. It's just a strange place to end things.

[Dark Soul # 7]

What?

Well... this sucks.

I know that I complain a lot about this series but I do still like it and I wanted to see where he'd go with it to the end.

I'm sorry for all the bigger fans of the series.

At the same time I can't help but wonder what's going to happen in these last three chapters.

[Hazard]

Didn't the same happen with Shaman King?

(Man, what a crappy ending to a great series)

Yeah, but then it actually got a good ending. Just took some time.

[RubberLotus]

Whoa. Wasn't expecting that. Looks like it's a good time of the year for popular Shonen mangas everywhere to start making bowing-out sounds.

On the bright side... wait, there is no bright side, is there?

Erm... it might inspire OverMaster to increase his Batman-related output on the fanfiction front...? That's all I've got.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Some optimists are hoping that he's just ending the series so that he can start a sequel with a different name since the teacher part of the title can't really be applied anymore.

[Pong]

If the reason for such abrupt end are health issues then we can always hope that he'll come back to it when he gets better. Like the author of Battle Angel Alita.

[OverMaster]

Some optimists are hoping that he's just ending the series so that he can start a sequel with a different name since the teacher part of the title can't really be applied anymore.

This ending is too abrupt and rushed even for the conclusion of an arc. I think those guys are just indulging into hopeful thinking. Denial does wonders.

[Dark Soul # 7]

This ending is too abrupt and rushed even for the conclusion of an arc. I think those guys are just indulging into hopeful thinking. Denial does wonders.I don't know.

Hasn't the entire post-magical world stuff basically been preparing for the future and wrapping up a lot of things? Hell, I've been considering that he'd just jump into a time-skip at any point now.

I'm not saying that the series won't just be cancelled. Just that there might be something behind the optimism. It depends on what's in these last three chapters.

[Robotech Master]

Whether or not he picks up the manga again in a different format or title or whatever will depend on the reason why he decided to just quit on the current one.

At this point I'm remaining cynical and miffed. This feels *exactly* like what happened to me with School Rumble. It looks like a new arc is starting, in fact a new arc does start, and then it gets aborted for a 3 chapter ending. And to this day I don't anyone knows why JK abandoned School Rumble.

At least School Rumble had a 10 chapter follow up, but that only gave it slightly less rushed ending, and still brushed aside or ignored any of the plot points that a full arc could have otherwise handled nicely.

By the by--I think the only serious way of hoping for a sequel is if this all has something to do with that J-Comi thing Akamatsu promoted, where perhaps he wishes to end all of his current publications in favor of taking things to that. But I don't know.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Chapter 352 is out.

We can pretty much forget about a sequel series or anything like that because basically everybody but three characters are dead. :frown:

Oh well, at least Konoka and Setsuna had two children together... I will use RubberLotus as a mallet to clobber anybody who says anything else. :evilsmile:

[Len Ikari145]

This ending is too abrupt and rushed even for the conclusion of an arc. I think those guys are just indulging into hopeful thinking. Denial does wonders.

I'm with you, Killjoy McBringdown.:tongue: The current chapter just destroyed any plausible hopes of a proper continuation ala Shaman King.

And I sense vindiction. He could've given them a fluffy ending, but this? This is Gen Urobuchi styled crap.:mad:

[Robotech Master]

I'm with you, Killjoy McBringdown.:tongue: The current chapter just destroyed any plausible hopes of a proper continuation ala Shaman King.

And I sense vindiction. He could've given them a fluffy ending, but this? This is Gen Urobuchi styled crap.:mad:

Well, Chao's there with Eva at the end, so at this point I'm pretty much expecting her to go "Ok, you've done your part, now I'm taking you back to just after you left. There will be two of you, but you'll never meet your past self since its locked away, so it's cool."

[Kusanagi]

The princess of the demon realm thing bothered me, in that this seems like it should be a big reveal and yet it's been pushed entirely into the background.

Maybe they'll get to it, eventually.

Edit: Posted before I realized the new chapter was out. I wish they had skipped past the time capsule and skipped to "Oh yeah time to take you back in time" which with everybody dead is really the only way to go that makes any sense.

[RubberLotus]

Chapter 352 is out.

We can pretty much forget about a sequel series or anything like that because basically everybody but three characters are dead. :frown:

Oh well, at least Konoka and Setsuna had two children together... I will use RubberLotus as a mallet to clobber anybody who says anything else. :evilsmile:

Avatar: The Last Airbender did exactly that with even fewer (in other words, zero) characters from the original series.

And seeing as how I'm the mallet, and thus cannot clobber myself, I am technically free to say whatever the hell I want.

Setsuna X Misora! Konoka X Kotaro! One of the two turns out to have... internal problems, even though Magical World technology would actually make a child between girls perfectly possible otherwise! The possibilities are limitless! :biggrin:

(And if it was you in this scenario, what would go in the time capsule? I can see it now... all of our old CBR adventures, like the Wade Wilson threads... the time OverMaster's headless body kicked you in the nuts... the time you killed Superboy-Prime with a crowbar...)

[Hazard]

This is kind of lazy.

And by kind of lazy I mean very lazy.

I mean, I could be proven wrong in the following chapters, but out of all the ways to suddenly end the manga this one in particular seems lazy.

[The Drunkard Kid]

I was kinda expecting her to wake up and find a note saying:

"Here's a watch Hakase made from Chao's blueprints. Go to the tree whenever its supposed to glow next. Get your ass back before class starts because I'm your homeroom teacher for high school too.

--Fate

P.S. Your summer assignments count towards your final grade."

[Hazard]

I was kinda expecting her to wake up and find a note saying:

"Here's a watch Hakase made from Chao's blueprints. Go to the tree whenever its supposed to glow next. Get your ass back before class starts because I'm your homeroom teacher for high school too.

--Fate

P.S. Your summer assignments count towards your final grade."

That would have been hilarious. :biggrin:

[OverMaster]

And seeing as how I'm the mallet, and thus cannot clobber myself, I am technically free to say whatever the hell I want.


He'll just slam you against the floor.

I doubt we're going to spend three chapters with only Asuna, Evangeline and Chao around, so there must be something else to this, but I don't hold any hopes for a decent conclusion anymore.

Negima XEBEC anime, come back, everything is forgiven.

I mean, at least there, everyone kinda got to kick ass in a final battle. Here, they all get kicked down hard in the Lifemaker fight until Godmodesuna finishes everything in a single page; then they participate in an embarrassing Negi farce chase, and then they all die off panel. Shameful, just shameful.

Oh, and I'd bet all other shounen manga villains are laughing at Lifemaker. Everyone but him got a decent final boss battle to star in...

[Kusanagi]

I was kinda expecting her to wake up and find a note saying:

"Here's a watch Hakase made from Chao's blueprints. Go to the tree whenever its supposed to glow next. Get your ass back before class starts because I'm your homeroom teacher for high school too.

--Fate

P.S. Your summer assignments count towards your final grade."

I would have preferred that actually.

[Kusanagi]

Completely missed the post about the series ending, which is funny because I posted the question about it just a few days before. It explains the rush job at least if he's in poor health, and as such I'll be a bit more understanding about certain characters getting shafted and other things going completely unexplained.

It does raise the question though, is it better to leave a series unfinished, or end it in an unsatisfactory way?

[RubberLotus]

He'll just slam you against the floor.

I doubt we're going to spend three chapters with only Asuna, Evangeline and Chao around, so there must be something else to this, but I don't hold any hopes for a decent conclusion anymore.

Negima XEBEC anime, come back, everything is forgiven.

I mean, at least there, everyone kinda got to kick ass in a final battle. Here, they all get kicked down hard in the Lifemaker fight until Godmodesuna finishes everything in a single page; then they participate in an embarrassing Negi farce chase, and then they all die off panel. Shameful, just shameful.

Oh, and I'd bet all other shounen manga villains are laughing at Lifemaker. Everyone but him got a decent final boss battle to star in...

OverMaster responded to something I said! SQUEE!

If you were going to be sealed away for 100 years to save a parallel world, OM, would you put memories from CBR and the TV Tropes forums in a time capsule?

Ah... you have taken the first step on the path to true salvation as a Negima fan, OM, but only the first. The rest of the path will require more... generous acts of forgiveness (http://s10.invisionfree.com/themoa/ar/t208.htm).

I can imagine the whole scene now... Madara, Aizen, Sir Crocodile, Naraku, and co. booting Lifemaker out of a bar and telling him to never come back...

TO FFN!

[lomiller]

Well, Chao's there with Eva at the end, so at this point I'm pretty much expecting her to go "Ok, you've done your part, now I'm taking you back to just after you left. There will be two of you, but you'll never meet your past self since its locked away, so it's cool."

I've been thinking that pretty much since the sleep for 100 years thing was revealed. The timeline seems to support it. She slept for 131 years and IIRC the world tree glows every 22 years, which Chao's time machine needs to work. 22 * 6 = 132 which puts her pretty much on scheduled. It also says it's March when she wakes up, is the festival in spring?

Edit. Hmm scratch that I think I'm a year out.

Plus it would be pretty dickish to have Ayaka just barely manage to survive the 100 years Asuna was supposed to be sealed only to have her sleep for another 30 years and end it that way.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Avatar: The Last Airbender did exactly that with even fewer (in other words, zero) characters from the original series.Yeah but in that case the first series was given a proper ending first.

Also, Katara is still alive in the new series.

And seeing as how I'm the mallet, and thus cannot clobber myself, I am technically free to say whatever the hell I want.Actually...

He'll just slam you against the floor.What he said. So...

Setsuna X Misora! Konoka X Kotaro! One of the two turns out to have... internal problems, even though Magical World technology would actually make a child between girls perfectly possible otherwise! The possibilities are limitless! :biggrin:*slams RubberLotus into the ground repeatedly*

Incidentally one of the KonoSetsu fics I'm planning has them on a double date with Misora and Cocone.

(And if it was you in this scenario, what would go in the time capsule? I can see it now... all of our old CBR adventures, like the Wade Wilson threads... the time OverMaster's headless body kicked you in the nuts... the time you killed Superboy-Prime with a crowbar...)Some of that guess. My pictue of me, David Boreanaz and James Marsters, my complete collection of the Scott Pilgrim series all signed by the author and my Larfleeze heroclix figure. ...or are we just talking photos?

Oh, and I'd bet all other shounen manga villains are laughing at Lifemaker. Everyone but him got a decent final boss battle to star in... Well... Satan from 666 Satan kind of got shafted in that department too.

[Eternal Torment]

OverMaster responded to something I said! SQUEE!

If you were going to be sealed away for 100 years to save a parallel world, OM, would you put memories from CBR and the TV Tropes forums in a time capsule?

Ah... you have taken the first step on the path to true salvation as a Negima fan, OM, but only the first. The rest of the path will require more... generous acts of forgiveness (http://s10.invisionfree.com/themoa/ar/t208.htm).

I can imagine the whole scene now... Madara, Aizen, Sir Crocodile, Naraku, and co. booting Lifemaker out of a bar and telling him to never come back...

TO FFN!

Even Father got a better fight than that. Seriously.

[Hazard]

So, third hand in formation tells me that it wasn't Akamatsu's idea to end the manga, but rather that of the editor.

Take that with a grain of salt though.

[Len Ikari145]

Well... Satan from 666 Satan kind of got shafted in that department too.

And it's still a helluva lot better than what's happened with Lifemaker.

[Dark Soul # 7]

So, third hand in formation tells me that it wasn't Akamatsu's idea to end the manga, but rather that of the editor.

Take that with a grain of salt though.I shall because Akamatsu just recently said on his facebook page that this is not a case of truncation, that's the word he himself used.

So apparently this'll be how he planned the ending. That's a bit odd.

[OverMaster]

I shall because Akamatsu just recently said on his facebook page that this is not a case of truncation, that's the word he himself used.

So apparently this'll be how he planned the ending. That's a bit odd.

To be more precise, his original ending plan was the finale used for the recent anime movie. At some point, he changed it to the current plan.

I still have a hard time believing he really intended to leave so many things hanging, from the Gravekeeper's identity to the whereabouts of Negi's mother (the movie apparently adressed the later).

[Pong]

To be more precise, his original ending plan was the finale used for the recent anime movie. At some point, he changed it to the current plan.

I still have a hard time believing he really intended to leave so many things hanging, from the Gravekeeper's identity to the whereabouts of Negi's mother (the movie apparently adressed the later).

Especially since both this chapter and the notes in the yearbook seemed bit like tauting "look so many interesting things I could show you. But I won't. Deal with it."

[Robotech Master]

And the placement of Akira's pactio.

It's like if Ino revealed that she learned the Flying Thundergod Technique after Naruto and Sasuke had their final battle, and uses it to help Naruto move his furniture into his new home 4 chapters before the finale.

[OverMaster]

And the placement of Akira's pactio.

It's like if Ino revealed that she learned the Flying Thundergod Technique after Naruto and Sasuke had their final battle, and uses it to help Naruto move his furniture into his new home 4 chapters before the finale.

Not to mention Ayaka's Pactio (she never got to use it for absolutely anything) and Chizuru's Pactio (she only used it... on Negi himself. Ah?)

[Pong]

At least we've SEEN Akira's pactio. We only got vague explanation of what Ayaka's pactio does without actually seeing it in action.


And don't get me started on Magic of the Ancients. This one had basically "it will be important later one" written all over it.

Or the demon world. "it on Venus". Yeah thanks Akamatsu, that's completely satisfies my curiosity.

Or...

You know what? No matter what Akamatsu says I'm not buying that this is the intended end for the series. Unless he planned to troll us for LONG time by dropping foreshadowing that he knew wouldn't amount to squat.

[The Drunkard Kid]

At least we've SEEN Akira's pactio. We only got vague explanation of what Ayaka's pactio does without actually seeing it in action.


And don't get me started on Magic of the Ancients. This one had basically "it will be important later one" written all over it.

Or the demon world. "it on Venus". Yeah thanks Akamatsu, that's completely satisfies my curiosity.

Or...

You know what? No matter what Akamatsu says I'm not buying that this is the intended end for the series. Unless he planned to troll us for LONG time by dropping foreshadowing that he knew wouldn't amount to squat.


Maybe it'll be like Gunnm/Battle Angel Alita, where there is a somewhat rushed ending, and then the author realizes that, holy crap, he's still alive and releases a sequel series that retcons the ending and pushes everything up to then up to eleven.

Though I did prefer the original series' artwork to a degree. Yay Octopally, Boo Catlita. Elf and Zwolf were fun, even though I dislike their bunny suits.

[The Drunkard Kid]

Not to mention Ayaka's Pactio (she never got to use it for absolutely anything) and Chizuru's Pactio (she only used it... on Negi himself. Ah?)

Honestly, I'm perfectly fine with Chizuru never using her Pactio ever again, under any circumstances.

[lomiller]

Remember reading about the plot of the movie and thinking "I'm glad they didn't go with THAT crappy ending!"?

[OverMaster]

Remember reading about the plot of the movie and thinking "I'm glad they didn't go with THAT crappy ending!"?

Funny how life works, huh?

[Hazard]

How did the movie go anyway? Haven't looked for spoilers to that one.

[OverMaster]

How did the movie go anyway? Haven't looked for spoilers to that one.

It apparently did okay in the box office despite its limited theater run, although part of it could be put on the much better critically received Hayate the Combat Butler movie that ran with it. The DVD will come out with Volume 37 of the Negima manga around the end of February.

[Shinobi]

Spoilers Ahoy: Be warned! THIS IS BIG. Issue 352

there's a timeskip and Asuna pays the price and goes back to her rightful place. 115 years or so pass and she overslept and returns to Mahora, only to find it different. She begins to look for Negi only to run into a descendant of Ayaka, who points out Negi's grave and states that he died many years before. Asuna gets upset and finds a time capsule with pictures of everyone and a message left by Negi. She breaks down and cries and it is revealed three are left: Ayaka, who is extremely old, Evangeline, and Chao, who returned.

I think they're going to go back into time, where everyone was, Negi's gonna finish the pactio's, his father is going to be killed and negi's true love will be revealed. If they don't do that, it'll be uber lame.

Also in this future a lot of things are revealed:

Konoka becomes a master magi with Setsuna by her side, Fuma and Fumika attend college and have uber hot boyfriends that have ears and a tail, Chisame becomes Negi's advisor, Natsume is the same as ever and so is Yue Chan, Nodoka ends up looking pretty cute as an older girl and working in outer space with another classmate, Makie went to college, Asakura wrote a book, Haruna had a press conference in Megalo presumably for a book, Misa was a big hit with the men, Satsuki became a famous chef and went to France, Mana presumably went back to take care of the children she donated to personally, Anya grew into an adult and Stan was cured by Konoka.

[lomiller]

Hmmm new chapter is out. I thought it would be at least one more week?

Anyway, more of the same rush to an ending we've seen the last couple issues, in fact I had to go back and see if I'd missed a chapter. I'm not even sure what they have left to cover now since Eva is now saying those 135 years are not set in stone.

[Dark Soul # 7]

So. The trio of mehness that will most surely be the last three chapters of this series have now begun.

The first of the three is really meh. Yeah yeah, it's a bit cute too but as the start of the end it does not impress.

[Robotech Master]

Gee, notice near the end when the girls get stripped and use their pactios to re-clothe themselves, the Narutaki twins have their ninja costumes pactio, and Sakurako has her cheerleader pactio?

Yeah, he's wanted to bail on this for a while, probably was told to keep going by publishers and made up these ideas for future arcs, and now his current contract of exclusivity is up with his publisher and he had a chance to drop it. He's never going to say that. He's going to say this was the way he envisioned it ending--hell maybe that's kinda true, just with a shitload in the middle skipped over and left to teaser images and narration--because it wouldn't be considered professional or whatever to verbally admit that he wanted to drop it prematurely.

[Kusanagi]

Yeah it's pretty obvious there's an entire arc or two that's completely missing. What would be big explanations mentioned only in passing, plans never fully explained or elaborated on in any way etc. etc.

[The Drunkard Kid]

The costumes may not be pactios. Can't they store one or two outfits in their Pactio cards?

[OverMaster]

The costumes may not be pactios. Can't they store one or two outfits in their Pactio cards?

I'm pretty sure the twins, at least, were holding their own cards up, and I think Sakurako was too.

Sad to see Negima end up with such a series of whimpers. If anything I'm dreading the last two chapters.

[Robotech Master]

The costumes match the pactio cards for the whole class included in the LE of the latest Tankoubon. They're definitely pactios.


If anything I'm dreading the last two chapters.

I have a feeling it'll be fairly harmless and unmoving, just get the hell out of dodge--but probably still better than School Rumble's.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Ok, so with only two chapters left what do you guys want to see. What grand change or scene do you want to see happen to Negi, the girls and the rest.

I know that I pretty much only want a scene that 100% confirms that Konoka and Setsuna end up together as a couple. Not just partners or friends with benefits or some lame and vague hint that they're together. I want a cute little KonoSetsu scene where it is said that they're together.

EDIT: Also, Evangeline being out and about away from the school.

[NeoSapien]

So who does Negi like? Whoever it was shocked Asuna a lot, so Nodoka, Yue, and even Chisame should be out. I think it has to be someone totally beyond the normal, such as Chachamaru, Eva, or even Fate. Actually Fate would be the funniest. "He already belongs to me," indeed.

[Robotech Master]

So who does Negi like? Whoever it was shocked Asuna a lot, so Nodoka, Yue, and even Chisame should be out. I think it has to be someone totally beyond the normal, such as Chachamaru, Eva, or even Fate. Actually Fate would be the funniest. "He already belongs to me," indeed.

I don't think she knows a whole lot about Yue and Chisame. Certainly not much about Chisame, since she was locked up the entire time that Chisame joined the harem running. Yue is well known to some of the other competitors, but compared to Nodoka who practically wears the intention on her clothes...

If it is a total outlier, I vote Ku Fei. Just because I like Ku Fei. There's just enough there to be a possibility, and just enough either not there or attempted handwave to make it surprising to others, etc. It could be Eva, but I don't know. As an outlier, it could even be someone not in the harem pool yet, but I hope not.

[OverMaster]

I actually think it should be a race between Yue and Chisame, with Ako as a dark horse candidate. I'd root for Akira too, but save a last minute boost, she didn't have much going for her. I don't like the Evangeline option because she's frankly too strung over her superiority to Negi to make a good life partner (it'll be too much of a dominating, even opressive, relationship), and I think Negi looks at Chachamaru in a more paternally protective way than anything else.

[Dark Soul # 7]

If I've understood recent spoilers correctly it seems like Yue is out of the race.

Persoanlly I'm sticking to my Poyo guess like a stubborn tick.

[Robotech Master]

If I've understood recent spoilers correctly it seems like Yue is out of the race.

Persoanlly I'm sticking to my Poyo guess like a stubborn tick.

The chapter appears to be a gaiden for Yue. KA seems to like doing this as he did something similar for Love Hina. People are saying she's out of the race because she seems to be out doing her own thing with this group and they are all adults now, so people are surmising that whoever ended up with Negi is already with him at this point. I wouldn't necessarily rule that out, but since she appeared first, many are saying it rules her out because there isn't some dramatic reveal for her anymore.

[Robotech Master]

Taken by itself, 354 was actually rather enjoyable. I'd actually like to read a whole series for Detective Yue, though I like Yue a lot so mileage may vary.

As a whole, well, given the rushed conclusion it looks like stuff is going to be glossed over as "shit happened during these seven years," and last chapter might just be a reveal of who 17-18 year old Negi ends up with. And it doesn't actually look like Yue is out of the race necessarily.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Two new characters we don't care about AND Pao Zi! Truly this is what everybody was hoping for from the penultimate Negima chapter.

Oh well. At least Yue got to be cool a bit until Pao Zi fondled her into submission.
Taken by itself, 354 was actually rather enjoyable. I'd actually like to read a whole series for Detective Yue, though I like Yue a lot so mileage may vary.Yeah. If this was say the first chapter of Detective Yue series, or maybe the first in an epilogue arc that was somewhat longer than this one is, it would be good. I wouldn't actually read that series but it's still a good start.

[Hazard]

Wait, so next chapter is the last chapter and we get this?

Damn.

This feels worse than School Rumble... well, not really, 'cause I liked that one a lot more, but at least that type of story can be just fine (some definition of fine at least) with a 'life will go on' type of ending. We are left with who knows how many plot threads dangling here.

Oh well, one week left.

[Robotech Master]

Wait, so next chapter is the last chapter and we get this?

Damn.

This feels worse than School Rumble... well, not really, 'cause I liked that one a lot more, but at least that type of story can be just fine (some definition of fine at least) with a 'life will go on' type of ending. We are left with who knows how many plot threads dangling here.

Oh well, one week left.

There's no way it will match the frustration of School Rumble's ending. School Rumble actually *started* a new arc. Actually got into it all and seemed to be going somewhere, and then "hey, three weeks from now is the finale." Harima, Yakumo, and Eri all living under the same roof? Awesome set up right!? Well you don't get to see shit! Here'e a pie to the face gag instead. Just as good.

[Hazard]

Harima, Yakumo, and Eri all living under the same roof? Awesome set up right!? Well you don't get to see shit! Here'e a pie to the face gag instead. Just as good.

...I had forgotten that part...must have blocked it out....

Rage!!!

[Pong]

Quit your whining ya wussies! :biggrin:

At least in School Rumble none of the characters almost.... uhm "leaked" in the penultimate chapter.


Way to keep it classy Akamatsu. :evilangry:

[Robotech Master]

Quit your whining ya wussies! :biggrin:

At least in School Rumble none of the characters almost.... uhm "leaked" in the penultimate chapter.


Way to keep it classy Akamatsu. :evilangry:

School Rumble had its share of fanservice and love triangles, but it was not in any way shape or form a harem story, and was mostly harmless romantic comedy.

Negima is undeniably mixed with ecchi and harem on top of the shounen conventions it also carried. And Yue has been the butt of 'Urination from drinking too much juice and that's why I wear easy slip off panties' jokes since the beginning of the manga. It honestly isn't all that out of place.

[Kusanagi]

Got to agree with everyone here, if this were the first chapter of Detective Yue, or the actual start of a post time skip arc it would actually be good. But considering we're supposed to be wrapping up not only an arc but a friggin series it seems woefully out of place.

[The Drunkard Kid]

I'm wondering if the whole "Mahou Sensei Negima! is ending next chapter" thing is just a written trolling that is implying that Akamatsu is about to rebrand it "Magister Magi Negima!" or something, at least for one last arc. I mean, the students except for Evangeline and Chachamaru are going to be graduating, Negi is officially recognized as one of the greatest wizards that ever lived (therefore negating his need to be a teacher as a final project), and what with his new project eating up so much of his time he couldn't have continued that job even if he wanted to. Maybe the reason that Yue's detective job is being brought up is because Neji's about to contact her to help pinpoint the location of Nagi/Lifemaker now that he's ready to save him.

[Robotech Master]

I'm wondering if the whole "Mahou Sensei Negima! is ending next chapter" thing is just a written trolling that is implying that Akamatsu is about to rebrand it "Magister Magi Negima!" or something, at least for one last arc. I mean, the students except for Evangeline and Chachamaru are going to be graduating, Negi is officially recognized as one of the greatest wizards that ever lived (therefore negating his need to be a teacher as a final project), and what with his new project eating up so much of his time he couldn't have continued that job even if he wanted to. Maybe the reason that Yue's detective job is being brought up is because Neji's about to contact her to help pinpoint the location of Nagi/Lifemaker now that he's ready to save him.

Even if he did that, it would still be a sequel on his own terms, so the manga as it exists now would be done. If he started it up again under a new title, it would likely be a bi-weekly J-Comi release or something.

Akamatsu had tweeted recently that he is not retiring and will soon release a new or a sequel. However, sequel in this case could mean sequel to anything. Love Hina, etc.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Ooooh. That was basically the info-dump certain movies do during the credits. I guess that it was the best we could hope for at this stage.

But what gives Akamatsu? You show us how Kotarou and Natsumi got married and all but the we only get the vague hint about Konoka and Setsuna both getting married in 2017? Freaking author-troll.

I do so wonder why he quite clearly just skipped an arc or two? It'll just have to be one of those mysteries we'll never know the answer to.

[Hazard]

Aaand that was boring...

Like, seriously boring.

It tries to cover everything but it's basically just one big, boring info dump.

I'm not saying that type of ending can't work, only... you know... it works when the plot is over not skipped.

Shame.

[The Drunkard Kid]

I'm just glad that no one still gives even half a damn about Negi's mom.

It was really underlined when they talked about how Asuna is the last member of her royal family, because its not like she has a nephew that happens to be the title character or anything. EDIT: Or that nephew's elder sister.

I think we should make our own epilogues for the people that weren't mentioned.

Anya: After being framed for a crime she didn't commit, she escaped and started doing mercenary work until she can find the ones who set her up and bring them to justice. After succeeding, she was reminded that breaking out of police custody, unlicensed mercenary work, setting fire to a residential district and breaking the legs of a twelve year old mouse-girl are all far worse crimes than spraypainting a firetruck and spends the rest of her life in prison.

[Kusanagi]

so yeah...that sucked

Aside from random as hell Nagi (hi I'm alive....yeah that's all I got despite being the central focus for Negi's motivation the entire series....)

They pretty much wrapped the series in the laziest way possible, and still managed to screw over my favorite character in Chisame (internet recluse again, despite the already growing tired of that earlier in the series somehow...>.>)

Ugh I need to just pretend the series ended back in the other world...

[NeoSapien]

Ooooh. That was basically the info-dump certain movies do during the credits. I guess that it was the best we could hope for at this stage.

But what gives Akamatsu? You show us how Kotarou and Natsumi got married and all but the we only get the vague hint about Konoka and Setsuna both getting married in 2017? Freaking author-troll.

It's worse than that. He also implied that Negi likes Fate, only even more subtly. Misora told Negi ages ago to give her the name of a girl he likes, and in her ending, when he finally fulfils the assignment, she is surprised, finds it funny, and forgives him. The forgiving him part only makes sense if Negi said that he likes a guy, since he wouldn't have actually fulfilled the assignment to the letter.

[Eternal Torment]

I'm surprised Chisame became a full hikki. It seems.... extremely OOC and ignores any development.

[master of read]

like the rest of the series, the ending was boring and.......just lazy.

[Dark Soul # 7]

It's worse than that. He also implied that Negi likes Fate, only even more subtly. Misora told Negi ages ago to give her the name of a girl he likes, and in her ending, when he finally fulfils the assignment, she is surprised, finds it funny, and forgives him. The forgiving him part only makes sense if Negi said that he likes a guy, since he wouldn't have actually fulfilled the assignment to the letter.Speaking of Misora. Did we know that she was an orphan before this chapter?

[Len Ikari145]

That.....was the laziest example of expository writing I have read yet. That's something you put in a friggin' data/fanbook, not as an ending to one of the most popular manga series in Japan and America.

[RubberLotus]

Welp, I suggest that we start writing our own epilogue... for this thread. The manga's ended, so what point is there in sticking around? :wink:

Post #49, RubberLotus, would go on to a successful career of editing other people's barely-legible fanfictions, overhauling profiles of obscure Batman characters on Comicvine, and inserting Batman into topics that have nothing to do with Batman. In-between, he would continue to converse with, antagonize, and sometimes stalk his longtime comrades, Dark Soul #7 and OverMaster. A highlight would be his invitation for the aforementioned two to participate in a mass review-slash-savaging of The Long Halloween on a certain LJ.

[Robotech Master]

Well, I don't have much to say, other than that I liked quite a few of the timeskip designs for the girls.

I enjoyed the whole manga right up until this truncated wrap-up began, so it was a fun ride while it lasted. And yes, this was horribly truncated. It doesn't matter what the author says to appear professional--this is clearly 2 or 3 arcs worth of stuff glossed over. I mean, Fuuka and Fumika don't just meet twin boys, they have an untold backstory of finding critters that turn out to be the princes later? Ako's scar, Nagi's rescue, a fucking war.

Some people on other forums noted that the year that the detective Yue chapter launches us into is the year of the Tsunami, and it has been roughly one full year since the actual Tsunami. I kind of wonder if its a veiled sign that Akamatsu made the decision to end Negima within a year after the Tsunami, though I don't really have anything to go on that.

Oh well, still not as frustrating as School Rumble. 'Course, SR got 10 chapters of School Rumble Z. Any little gaiden follow ups?

[Nik Hasta]

Yeah, this reeks of cancellation.

I'd imagine that Akamatsu wanted to a lot more but given the recent quality of the series, I doubt Negima is doing that well in rankings.

[OverMaster]

Yeah, this reeks of cancellation.

I'd imagine that Akamatsu wanted to a lot more but given the recent quality of the series, I doubt Negima is doing that well in rankings.

Actually, sales-wise, the series was doing great. Volume 37, the penultimate one, sold in high numbers, and reportedly the franchise still was Kodansha's all time second money maker, after Sailor Moon. Akamatsu himself said in Tweeter it wasn't an issue of sales.

[Nik Hasta]

Actually, sales-wise, the series was doing great. Volume 37, the penultimate one, sold in high numbers, and reportedly the franchise still was Kodansha's all time second money maker, after Sailor Moon. Akamatsu himself said in Tweeter it wasn't an issue of sales.

Well... that's depressing. That was the ending he planned then.

Fallen a long way since Love Hina I see.

[Robotech Master]

Well... that's depressing. That was the ending he planned then.

Fallen a long way since Love Hina I see.

I don't think it was the ending he "planned," as in carefully planned. It was the ending he settled for to be done with it. When he originally extended the manga beyond its original idea, I think he laid down all of these plans, plotlines, plottwists, and revelations; then, sometime about a year ago or so, he decided he wanted Negima to end and didn't want to keep doing it for much longer, so he looked at everything he had in his notes and said "how can I do more or less this in 1 year?"

And the answer was this. Skip all the good stuff and just mention it in exposition.

[lomiller]

I don't think it was the ending he "planned," as in carefully planned. It was the ending he settled for to be done with it. When he originally extended the manga beyond its original idea, I think he laid down all of these plans, plotlines, plottwists, and revelations; then, sometime about a year ago or so, he decided he wanted Negima to end and didn't want to keep doing it for much longer, so he looked at everything he had in his notes and said "how can I do more or less this in 1 year?"


I’m not sure I buy that explanation either. All he really had to do was introduce Lifemaker/Nagi a little sooner and resolve it at end of the magical world arc and do a couple page explanation of where Arika was. Then a short time skip followed by an epilogue showing the Mars terraforming was progressing and would work.

The real problem with the ending is that he chose to leave a number of leads into new arcs sitting there are the end of the magical world arc and then a few months later decided not to do anything with them and end the series.

[Dark Soul # 7]

So we're all largely in agreement then? The ending was rushed, lazy and just overall poorly executed.

But that's rather a downer way to end a thread that's probably going to be abandoned soon enough now that the series is over.

So let us do an exercise where we remember out favourite moments, characters, fights etc from the series.

Though I've been somewhat apathetic towards the series in later arcs I remember being immensely entertained by the earlier arcs. The Kyoto arc in particular for finding that nigh-perfect balance between the more serious side of the series and the lighter elements. That said arc also introduce Setsuna and her relationship with Konoka also helped. :biggrin:

Ahh. Setsuna and Konoka. I've really enjoyed seeing their relationship develop over the series and I'm extremely happy that they got married in the end, you'd have blind and in denial to not read the hints correctly. Yeah there are probably better written couples out there, but there's just something so pure and sweet about these two that I really love.

And then there's Misora. A wonderfully fun and ordinary girl in an extrordinary world. She had her part to play, it wasn't big or incredibly dramatic but she nailed it every time. There are few side characters I enjoy more.

Let's see, favourite fight? Easy. Setsuna vs. Evangeline. It had everything a good shounen fight should have and it just happened to be between my two favourite characters. Awesome. :cool:

[The Real Nemo]

Ah well. I would have liked a better conclusion, but it was fun while it lasted. Thanks for a great series Akamastu, and especially for introducing me to one of my all time favorite characters Evangeline AK McDowell.

[Nik Hasta]

If we're dishing out final thoughts - I will do my best to be fair.

In short; Akamatsu proves that he can still draw the heck out of a series, though he needs to get over the whole "random nudity!" thing as a crutch for his work. The plot itself got a bit to big for it's boots and I think this can be largely attributed to the cast being wildly too large to be manageable.

In long: The main problem of Negima is an overall lack of focus. There are far too many characters that we are expected to care about or at least get fleshed out to a reasonable degree. While there were various high points in the series, specifically some of the rather more exciting fight scenes and the development of Chisame and Setsuna as a characters, it's bogged down by a near overwhelming deluge of boring plots, cardboard characters and gratuitous nudity.

Negi himself remained stubbornly dull as a lead and I found his development near stupefyingly middle of the road and I never managed to shake the weirdness of a bunch of 15-16 year olds having a crush on a 10 year old. This was not helped by the fact that due to the unwieldy cast size, the development of some characters was stunted or ignored or in the worst case redacted (Chisame) in favour of turning the focus onto others. Makie was boring as hell and just depressingly by the numbers as a concept and could not justify the inordinate amount of panel time she got in the Magic World, you could have got the same plot out of Nodoka, no problem. It's pretty telling that in the ending chapter with the look at all members of the class I found myself going "Who?!" on multiple occasions.

Akamatsu could have cut the class in half and would have lost nothing.

Highest point was the Festival Arc, a clever plot, decent antagonist, nice twists with the time travel elements and a suitably intelligent resolution at the end of it all.

Lowest point was the hot springs chapter. Utterly pointless, hopelessly juvenile and contributed nothing to the plot whatsoever.

In even shorter; at it's best Negima ranked 6.5/10 at worst 3/10

I hope Akamatsu does better with his next project.

[master of read]

my final thoughts.

like nik said, there was too much going and not enough focus. the cast was too large to really see who to really focus on and care about. there were some high points but it got to the point where reading each chapter became a chore in and of itself. negi didnt really stand out as far as being the pro goes. and like nik, i was.........unsettled by all the girls who had crushes on him. the only parts i did like were anything with jack rakan. in fact, jack was the whole reason i read this in the first place. he was so over the top that you couldnt help but love him.

bottomline, while its not the worst manga i've ever read, (i'm looking at you code:breaker) its far from the best. this was the first work i've read from akamatsu and i wasn't impressed.

[Vaiyt]

lol at all the people backpedalling to find retroactive reasons to not like negima forever because of the ending

[Hazard]

Fine, I'll jump on the final thoughts bandwagon.

First of all, I don't really have any problem with all the girls crushing on Negi. I ship Taikoubou/Dakii, my sensibilities are nothing if not flexible.

Now as for the plot. I like Negi's motive. It might not be all that original, but things rarely are. His backstory is interesting (actually the entire back story of the manga is pretty cool) and it is such a shame we didn't get to see more of that demon Count. He was cool.

Negi is not my favorite main character, but he isn't bad either. I would totally like him more if he went for a harem end. True men go for a harem end. A motivator told me so.

As for the arcs, well I didn't think much of the introductory arcs. I loved the Kyoto arc. It's probably my favorite Negima arc. It introduced Setsuna! Who is probably my favorite character in the manga. Don't really care much for Konoka though. The Festival Arc wasn't that bad, and Chao made a nice villain but it was a bit too long.

Things for me start to go down after they get into the magic world. To be specific, after Negi starts going to 150km/s.

Seriously, that was completely unnecessary.

Plus, most of the time Nodoka got to be useful it felt like people were jobbing to her.

Mind you, Rakan was fine. Dynamis was awesome, and I don't really dislike Fate. The guy is cool.

I liked many of the characters in the manga. On the other hand that can also be seen as one of its weaknesses. More and more characters kept being introduced and at some point it feels unnecessary.

Second biggest complaint: I like my bad guys evil. For me it was Tuesday and all that. It is not necessary but the utter lack of someone truly evil in this manga really shows. Which is weird, because despite what is at stake the risks felt really, really low for Negi and the others.

Overall, Negima is an okay manga with a disappointing finish. It has an okay beginning and great middle and kind of fall apart after that.

[Dark Soul # 7]

lol at all the people backpedalling to find retroactive reasons to not like negima forever because of the endingI don't think that anybody's doing that. The people that have done the final thought thing aren't exactly the main Negima fans on this board and are giving fair criticism with both negative and positive comments. Personally I was just trying to get everybody to talk about what they liked and then Nik went for the final thoughts thing. So I'll join as well.

Good:
- A very varied cast with several really great characters. My favourites being Setsuna, Evangeline and Misora who are all some of my favourite shounen ladies.
- The Kyoto arc is great.
- Artwork has been pretty damn solid all the way throughout and when the fight scenes are good they're REALLY good.
- Most of the villains had interesting and fairly original reasons for doing what they do.

Bad:
- I'm going to echo the "Too big" thing. Especially the cast. There was way too many people being brought in at points where it felt like they were shoe-horned and kind of stole attention away from what should've been the main cast. There too many people with hints at interesting back-stories that we never got to see and I can't help but feel that could've been remedied with less focus on say characters like Ako, Makie, the cheerleaders, Akira etc.
- In the end I didn't really care about the two leads. Negi was fine at first but around after the Festival arc he and his odd situation just lost its charm for me. Didn't help that he eventually got so powerful that most of his main crew felt rather unimportant in the grand scheme of things.
- No really great villain. Dynamis was awesome but in the end he was just a dragon, or one rank below that. Nobody else stood out.
- The ending of course. Especially since he wasted lots of chapters on that lame sports festival arc thing.

Overall, good but not great. Needed more focus and to keep things tighter.
Don't really care much for Konoka though.May I ask why that is? Is it because she basically had no character development beyond deciding what she wanted to do and who she wanted to be with (and do) when she grew up?

[Nik Hasta]

lol at all the people backpedalling to find retroactive reasons to not like negima forever because of the ending

I think you'll find I've been moaning about Negima not being very good for a while now.

I'll also agree with Dark on the lack of a clear cut main villain. Fate was an... passable antagonist and Dynamis was a lot of fun. But the actual Lifemaker/Mage of the Beginning dude didn't seem to do all that much beyond menacingly pose in the background. On that subject, I'm still vaguely unsure as to what the bad guy's aim was at the end of it all.

While I have a lot of negatives to say, I don't think Negima was actually outright bad very often. It was, for the most part, an above average manga.

[Hazard]

May I ask why that is? Is it because she basically had no character development beyond deciding what she wanted to do and who she wanted to be with (and do) when she grew up?

She just didn't grab me. I don't find much about her appealing.

[Dark Soul # 7]

She just didn't grab me. I don't find much about her appealing.Fair enough. Of course this now demands the follow up question, would you have prefered if Setsuna wasn't paired up with Konoka, shipping or otherwise?

It's safe to answer. I'm not going to add you to an enemy list or something.

[Hazard]

Fair enough. Of course this now demands the follow up question, would you have prefered if Setsuna wasn't paired up with Konoka, shipping or otherwise?

It's safe to answer. I'm not going to add you to an enemy list or something.

Honestly, I don't really care. I mean, if there was someone else I was definitely shipping with Setsuna it might have bothered me, but there isn't. So I don't particularly care if Konoka and Setsuna are together or not.

[lomiller]

Not sure if anyone else has seen this, but there seems to be some speculation that the reason Akamatsu Negima ended so abruptly is that he's involved in a dispute with publishers over a new law that would grant the publisher a form of co-copyright to the anime and characters they publish.

http://astronerdboy.blogspot.de/2012/03/new-proposed-japanese-law-reason-ken.html

[Dark Soul # 7]

Just saw the Anime Final. And while the manga ending is rushed, extremely so, at least it isn't the same sentimental and non-sensical mush fest that is the Anime Final.

Oh well. It had a cool Kaede/Mana fight scene at the very least.