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XaviersMisprint
08-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Why Is Kurt Wearing white??
seriously. this issue comes out after labor day.
Peter F.
08-18-2008, 10:13 PM
is there a reason why ink's fist is metallic on the young x-men cover?
part of his tattoo or something?
Yeah one of his tattoos is a bunch of lines on his hand. It's supposed to be like Colossus' sectioned metal skin, and that gives him super strength. It's just that until now that fist has never actually turned metal, I guess Michael Ryan made a mistake. Oh well it looks kind of cool
What alternate reality are you getting your comics from?
And seriously, what the hell? Just what the hell to this.
I think he's referring to the Divided We Stand mini where a wildly out of character Anole punched out Northstar (or did he elbow him, I can't remember and I'm afraid to ever look at those issues again). But to be fair everyone acted wildly out of character in that mini, except Nezhno for some reason.
drwho
08-18-2008, 10:23 PM
Inks powers make little sense to me. I mean does he actually have to think of the power he wants when he gets the tattoo, or does the power just show up to be whatever. Why specifically does something man made like ink from a tattoo actually affect the body. Have they explained his powers yet? If he had a dollar bill tattooed on him would he turn into a giant dollar, or get a lot of money?
pryde15
08-18-2008, 10:25 PM
Inks powers make little sense to me. I mean does he actually have to think of the power he wants when he gets the tattoo, or does the power just show up to be whatever. Why specifically does something man made like ink from a tattoo actually affect the body. Have they explained his powers yet? If he had a dollar bill tattooed on him would he turn into a giant dollar, or get a lot of money?
It was kind of explained.
For him to get a power, he has to get a tattoo of some iconic image related to the power.
Somehow lightning bolts on a head is an iconic symbol for telepathy. :confused:
Peter F.
08-18-2008, 10:28 PM
Inks powers make little sense to me. I mean does he actually have to think of the power he wants when he gets the tattoo, or does the power just show up to be whatever. Why specifically does something man made like ink from a tattoo actually affect the body. Have they explained his powers yet? If he had a dollar bill tattooed on him would he turn into a giant dollar, or get a lot of money?
This issue of Young X-men might help explain that. I still say he's not a mutant. His powers seem too... magical.
sneggz
08-18-2008, 10:30 PM
Anole YAY! So, an Ink origin, howzabout a Greymalkin origin Guggenheim?
Logan is whoreverine; look at him going after another one of the Summers' girls:evilangry:
Oh, and, Choi is the ultimate sex. Once again, I am appalled that Land replaced him on UXM
steve2275
08-18-2008, 10:32 PM
The boots rock.
the stockings rock 2 :wink:
kate-pryde
08-18-2008, 11:24 PM
Looking at these solicts makes me so happy I'm no longer reading X-books.
steve2275
08-18-2008, 11:26 PM
Hooray! Finally some Colossus-deals-with-Kitty-heartache handling! :biggrin: About freakin' time! :evilangry:
they better not make him suicidal
had enuff of that shit in 2000
XaviersMisprint
08-18-2008, 11:32 PM
This issue of Young X-men might help explain that. I still say he's not a mutant. His powers seem too... magical.
the way ink and greymalkin stand back to back, it suggests they're a partnership. i get the idea that greymalkin is an extension of ink, possibly like a sentry/void type of thing. maybe ink's tattoo once turned into greymalkin, like one of his tattoos created life, and that was ink. or its a dual identity, greymalkin is ink's good side, and ink is greymalkin's bad side. then again, ink could be an extension of greymalkin, therefore making ink not the mutant and that explains why there were five mutant signatures in a room full of seven people.
i bet there's something to the both of them that has a lot to do with the other. seems like that might make the character interesting, if anything could.
$5 Milkshake
08-19-2008, 12:47 AM
Sad. I like the cover of Young X-Men, but I think this pretty much confirms dead Wolf Cub :frown:
[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite
08-19-2008, 01:10 AM
Priceless.
lol. It's pretty funny when even the publisher makes fun of the Wolverine situation.
Quinnhop
08-19-2008, 02:04 AM
Sad. I like the cover of Young X-Men, but I think this pretty much confirms dead Wolf Cub :frown:
Now they can just get a dog.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-19-2008, 03:15 AM
WTF? What happened to Pixie?
Greg Land, mostly. It appears she grew up. Fast.:mad:
Hooray! Finally some Colossus-deals-with-Kitty-heartache handling! :biggrin: About freakin' time! :evilangry:
I'd like to see that addressed in Captain Britain and MI:13, also. We know that Kitty was still on speaking terms with Wisdom, from his mini last year. He's so going to blame the X-Men for this...
I knew it wasn't Paquette but I didn't see Ryans signature and would never have guessed that was his work. I loved his Academy X stuff but this cover leaves alot to be desired. Rockslide looks horrible and that is quite possibly the worst Dust I have EVER seen. I'm glad to see Victor of course but I don't much care for that line up...hopefully Surge, Magma, Blindfold and Dani are also part of the book going forward.
I totally disagree. I am far from Ryan's biggest fan (As many of you already know) but I think this cover is actually pretty good. It's infinitely better than what we know we'll see inside the book.
is there a reason why ink's fist is metallic on the young x-men cover?
part of his tattoo or something?
Yeah, I noticed that, too. He does HAVE a tattoo there, and Ryan has drawn it in. But I think the colourist has gotten the wrong end of the stick. Unless he's actually losing a hand in coming issues, and gets given a prosthetic.
I know there's a few of you out there who'd like him to suffer that way... :biggrin:
Peter F.
08-19-2008, 03:54 AM
Sad. I like the cover of Young X-Men, but I think this pretty much confirms dead Wolf Cub :frown:
Yay! Now everyone do the Snoopy dance.
Emma looks epic in AXM!
Jeez Wolverine is on alot of covers in November....why have marvel not understood that he is a little too frequently poping up?
Beast
08-19-2008, 07:52 AM
I'd like to see that addressed in Captain Britain and MI:13, also. We know that Kitty was still on speaking terms with Wisdom, from his mini last year. He's so going to blame the X-Men for this...
Yeah, that's all we need.
More tacky moments from Cornell like him calling out her name in the middle of the night. Maybe he can up the tackyness by showing Wisdom with a bottle of lotion, a box of tissues, and Kitty's picture. :tongue:
The Sword Is Drawn
08-19-2008, 08:32 AM
Yeah, that's all we need.
More tacky moments from Cornell like him calling out her name in the middle of the night. Maybe he can up the tackyness by showing Wisdom with a bottle of lotion, a box of tissues, and Kitty's picture. :tongue:
I would have thought that Wisdom would just be more pissed of that Kitty was clearly capable of more, but kept on returning to the X-Men. He would probably blame them for encouraging her to waste her potential with a bunch of inward looking 'heroes' who obsess over being mutants, rather than looking at the bigger picture.
Only he'd say it with a few more expletives... :biggrin:
Mitteloss
08-19-2008, 08:50 AM
Because I needed to use someone and that sexy green haired girl is always on my mind.
Why did you need to mention Polaris as someone who won't probably ever get pitches for a one-shot? You could of just said B-lister.
wolvie616
08-19-2008, 08:58 AM
WOLVIE AND DOMINO=best new x couple!
greenshoes713
08-19-2008, 09:00 AM
Inks powers make little sense to me. I mean does he actually have to think of the power he wants when he gets the tattoo, or does the power just show up to be whatever. Why specifically does something man made like ink from a tattoo actually affect the body. Have they explained his powers yet? If he had a dollar bill tattooed on him would he turn into a giant dollar, or get a lot of money?
Wow you said something that makes sense and not annoying :eek:
Sad. I like the cover of Young X-Men, but I think this pretty much confirms dead Wolf Cub :frown:
Yeah total bummer:frown:
First they butcher the character and then they do it literally.
Peter F.
08-19-2008, 09:03 AM
Yeah total bummer:frown:
First they butcher the character and then they do it literally.
Oh well at least we can all now move past the pointless "Wolfcub beating up Magma and Sunspot was/was not ridiculous" arguments.
rwsmith
08-19-2008, 09:06 AM
DARNIT! I wish they would've had a cover for the Storm mini series. And HELL YES for Olivier Coipel on Astonishing! I loved Bianchi, but I love Coipel even more!
Nice! I missed that the first time I looked through the solicits. Coipel drawing the Astonishing team will be fantastic. Definitely makes the delays much easier to bear. :smile:
The Sword Is Drawn
08-19-2008, 09:06 AM
Oh well at least we can all now move past the pointless "Wolfcub beating up Magma and Sunspot was/was not ridiculous" arguments.
Well yeah, I think most people would be happy about that...
greenshoes713
08-19-2008, 09:07 AM
Oh well at least we can all now move past the pointless "Wolfcub beating up Magma and Sunspot was/was not ridiculous" arguments.
But its not his fault!:frown:
Peter F.
08-19-2008, 09:09 AM
But its not his fault!:frown:
He's just lucky he survived as long as he did. I'm still slightly surprised he lived through C&C's mass student culling back in the day.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-19-2008, 09:12 AM
He's just lucky he survived as long as he did. I'm still slightly surprised he lived through C&C's mass student culling back in the day.
Has enough time really passed to refer to it as "Back in the Day"? It was only 3 years ago. :biggrin:
Peter F.
08-19-2008, 09:16 AM
Has enough time really passed to refer to it as "Back in the Day"? It was only 3 years ago. :biggrin:
Eh it feels longer. But you're right. Still I say he was lucky not to be put on that bus.
greenshoes713
08-19-2008, 09:19 AM
He's just lucky he survived as long as he did. I'm still slightly surprised he lived through C&C's mass student culling back in the day.
Thats bc he was an adorable wolf cub not no lame ass wolverine wanna-be!:mad:
rwsmith
08-19-2008, 09:54 AM
Looks like that second "First Class" book that Wolverine is appearing in is called Weapon X: First Class. Not sure if this is replacing X-men: First Class or not, and I have no idea why this couldn't be done in Wolverine: First Class.
http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.4556.Marvel_Previews_for_November_2008
Having said that, I'll give it a whirl. Not crazy about the concept of yet another line of out-of-continuity books (we've already got Marvel Adventures and the Ultimate line for that sort of thing), but Wolverine: First Class has surprised me with how entertaining it is.
Beast
08-19-2008, 10:10 AM
Looks like that second "First Class" book that Wolverine is appearing in is called Weapon X: First Class. Not sure if this is replacing X-men: First Class or not, and I have no idea why this couldn't be done in Wolverine: First Class.
http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.4556.Marvel_Previews_for_November_2008
Having said that, I'll give it a whirl. Not crazy about the concept of yet another line of out-of-continuity books (we've already got Marvel Adventures and the Ultimate line for that sort of thing), but Wolverine: First Class has surprised me with how entertaining it is.
Given the title/solicit it's set during the early days of Weapon X.
Which means it wouldn't really fit in Wolverine: First Class. As that's set after.
And it's not out-of-continuity. All of the First Class books are in continuity and canon.
And I doubt it's replacing X-Men: First Class. The book has the Mini-Series price point. My guess for why they're launching it? So it can be traded when X-Men Origins: Wolverine comes out. X-Men: First Class is probably on hiatus for a bit. Jeff is busy with Agents of Atlas and could probably use a break.
$5 Milkshake
08-19-2008, 10:11 AM
Looks like that second "First Class" book that Wolverine is appearing in is called Weapon X: First Class. Not sure if this is replacing X-men: First Class or not, and I have no idea why this couldn't be done in Wolverine: First Class.
http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.4556.Marvel_Previews_for_November_2008
Having said that, I'll give it a whirl. Not crazy about the concept of yet another line of out-of-continuity books (we've already got Marvel Adventures and the Ultimate line for that sort of thing), but Wolverine: First Class has surprised me with how entertaining it is.
That's gotta be a mini.....
No way that there's gonna be TWO Wolverine type first classes AND Origins. That would just be stupid.
Beast
08-19-2008, 10:17 AM
That's gotta be a mini.....
No way that there's gonna be TWO Wolverine type first classes AND Origins. That would just be stupid.
Definatly. Especially with the $3.99 Mini-Series price point on it.
lockerogue
08-19-2008, 10:21 AM
That's gotta be a mini.....
No way that there's gonna be TWO Wolverine type first classes AND Origins. That would just be stupid.
Don't worry it will soon turn into Karma First Class.
So, who's the "long thought dormant" hero in # 504?
Beast
08-19-2008, 11:20 AM
So, who's the "long thought dormant" hero in # 504?
Captain America! Wouldn't that be a kick in the nuts. :wink:
No clue... it's probably someone incredibly obscure.
Peter F.
08-19-2008, 11:20 AM
Captain America! Wouldn't that be a kick in the nuts. :wink:
No clue... it's probably someone incredibly obscure.
616 Changling/Morph?
Beast
08-19-2008, 11:22 AM
616 Changling/Morph?
I don't think that would fit the "dormant" clue.
He died from Cancer after all.
escapegoat
08-19-2008, 11:27 AM
So, who's the "long thought dormant" hero in # 504?
My best guess would be Mimic, since he was briefly discussed by the writers recently at one of this summer's comic conventions....
drwho
08-19-2008, 11:45 AM
when are x-men described as heroes? Long thought dormant Banshee? Wasnt Mimic in the issues of Excalibur?
jarrod
08-19-2008, 11:53 AM
Yeah, that's all we need.
More tacky moments from Cornell like him calling out her name in the middle of the night. Maybe he can up the tackyness by showing Wisdom with a bottle of lotion, a box of tissues, and Kitty's picture. :tongue:
Cornell touched on Wisdom's regret briefly in the last issue of CB&MI:13 actually... and it was a lot more understated and tasteful than Whedon's closing sap or Brubaker's meandering emptiness. Maybe if you bothered to read the best X-Book on the market, you'd know that though. :wink:
Peter F.
08-19-2008, 11:54 AM
Cornell touched on Wisdom's regret briefly in the last issue of CB&MI:13 actually... and it was a lot more understated and tasteful than Whedon's closing sap or Brubaker's meandering emptiness. Maybe if you bothered to read the best X-Book on the market, you'd know that though. :wink:
Captain Britain and MI-13 is not an X-book though. There's only one mutant. And everyone is actually British.
jarrod
08-19-2008, 11:58 AM
I would have thought that Wisdom would just be more pissed of that Kitty was clearly capable of more, but kept on returning to the X-Men. He would probably blame them for encouraging her to waste her potential with a bunch of inward looking 'heroes' who obsess over being mutants, rather than looking at the bigger picture.
Only he'd say it with a few more expletives... :biggrin:
I'd like to see Brian's response too honestly, he and Kitty were closer I think than is usually let on.
Of course, it'd also be nice to see Kurt's, Ororo's, Rachel's, Rogue's, Shan's, Xaiver's and others responses as well. Crybaby Emma, drunk Logan and melancholy Pitor are all we've really gotten so far, and frankly I couldn't care less about them. :/
jarrod
08-19-2008, 12:00 PM
Captain Britain and MI-13 is not an X-book though. There's only one mutant. And everyone is actually British.
It's in the X-Book solicits and it's managed by the X-Office.
I agree, it's not *really* an X-Book content wise though.
worstblogever
08-19-2008, 12:04 PM
Captain Britain and MI-13 is not an X-book though. There's only one mutant. And everyone is actually British.
Depending on who you ask, there's two mutants. Pete Wisdom & Captain Britain. Although, CB's power status is debated quite often. His main powers do come from magical boons, though.
escapegoat
08-19-2008, 12:05 PM
when are x-men described as heroes? Long thought dormant Banshee? Wasnt Mimic in the issues of Excalibur?
Did he appear in Excalibur recently (or in the first incarnation)? I know his first come-back was in X-Force in the mid-90's.
Marvel loves to exaggerate the truth in their solicitations (best example being Bendis/Bagley's run on Ult SM being longest run for a pair of creators on a title, when in fact Groo ran longer with its creative team), so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Mimic. It'd be nice if it was someone else though.
jarrod
08-19-2008, 12:10 PM
Depending on who you ask, there's two mutants. Pete Wisdom & Captain Britain. Although, CB's power status is debated quite often. His main powers do come from magical boons, though.
That one trading card said he was a mutant. :biggrin:
Makes sense if his twin sister and older brother are anyway... though I'd like to point out the "magical boons" just focused and released power that was engineered into Brian's (and his siblings) DNA by his father and Merlyn. The power's comes from within, the costume and scepter just focused it (though he doesn't need them anymore even).
The Sword Is Drawn
08-19-2008, 12:17 PM
Captain Britain and MI-13 is not an X-book though. There's only one mutant. And everyone is actually British.
Well it's run by Nick Lowe amd the X-Office - Because it was orginally going to be Excalibur. They changed the named due to the negative associations with the name (3 Failed reboots)...
when are x-men described as heroes? Long thought dormant Banshee? Wasnt Mimic in the issues of Excalibur?
Mimic appeared in the final few issues of Excalibur, back in 1998. Not sure about since then, though.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-19-2008, 12:19 PM
Depending on who you ask, there's two mutants. Pete Wisdom & Captain Britain. Although, CB's power status is debated quite often. His main powers do come from magical boons, though.
Brian Braddock is not, never has been and never will be a Mutant. He does not cary the X-gene.
jarrod
08-19-2008, 12:23 PM
Brian Braddock is not, never has been and never will be a Mutant. He does not cary the X-gene.
His Marvel Universe Series 2 Trading Card says otherwise. :P
I'd agree with you, but then I'd also say Betsy and Jamie aren't either. I think what bothers me most though is the arbitrary split there... I care less if they're all mutants or all not mutants (though I definitely prefer the latter), but they should all at least be the same thing imo. Especially the twins... I mean, are there any other cases of twins in the MU where one's a mutant and the other isn't?
Beast
08-19-2008, 12:32 PM
Cornell touched on Wisdom's regret briefly in the last issue of CB&MI:13 actually... and it was a lot more understated and tasteful than Whedon's closing sap or Brubaker's meandering emptiness. Maybe if you bothered to read the best X-Book on the market, you'd know that though. :wink:
I don't like Cornell or his concepts of the characters.
So rather than read it and complain, I chose not to. More people should do that.
darknessatnoon
08-19-2008, 12:34 PM
I don't like Cornell or his concepts of the characters.
So rather than read it and complain, I chose not to. More people should do that.
You don't like him personally?
$5 Milkshake
08-19-2008, 12:45 PM
I don't like Cornell or his concepts of the characters.
So rather than read it and complain, I chose not to. More people should do that.
I agree with your philosophy, but not your decision to skip Captain Britain. You're missing out Beast!
Beast
08-19-2008, 12:53 PM
You don't like him personally?
I don't particularly care for his work. Especially Wisdom's pining over Kitty.
And his interviews where every member of the cast was described in the same sterotypical British way put me off Captain Britain. Not everyone from Britian has a "wry sense of humor."
DeniseXfrost
08-19-2008, 12:54 PM
Love Cable's cover.
Yay I hope Wolfclub's dead.
I thought it was Storm in AXM at first, I was like did Bianchi reacted to fan's criticism?
I hope you're happy. No more Scemma Sex scenes.
Emma....checks....in...hotel :tongue:
Beast
08-19-2008, 12:56 PM
I agree with your philosophy, but not your decision to skip Captain Britain. You're missing out Beast!
It's possible that I am. But I'm happy that you guys enjoy the book.
darknessatnoon
08-19-2008, 12:57 PM
It's possible that I am. But I'm happy that you guys enjoy the book.
I actually haven't enjoyed it at all, though it has nothing to do with Wisdom pining after Kitty (Wisdom just needs to die). I just think the book is kind of bullshitty.
Pach!
08-19-2008, 01:00 PM
I don't like Cornell or his concepts of the characters.
So rather than read it and complain, I chose not to. More people should do that.
LOL didn't you just complain about it?
Beast
08-19-2008, 01:02 PM
LOL didn't you just complain about it?
No. I was asked why I don't pull it or read it.
I stay out of the threads and don't spoil them for the fans. Same thing I do with Black Panther.
DeniseXfrost
08-19-2008, 01:02 PM
I want to see Land's version of Dazzler (no not the messy 500 cover.)
Peter F.
08-19-2008, 01:03 PM
No. I was asked why I don't pull it or read it.
I stay out of the threads and don't spoil them for the fans. Same thing I do with Black Panther.
Now you have to admit that the current Captain Britain book is at least better than Black Panther.
Swashbuckler
08-19-2008, 01:03 PM
I actually haven't enjoyed it at all, though it has nothing to do with Wisdom pining after Kitty (Wisdom just needs to die). I just think the book is kind of bullshitty.
I think it's ok. I mean, the first arc wasn't really clear. It had a lot of history in it I felt. Like, how was I supposed to know or care who Spitfire was? Plus, the generic ending where Captain Britain is all like "We should be a team....! I think he makes that same stupid speech everytime a random group of heroes is around him in England. And that's probably because he needs a group in england to be a part of because he is afraid his suit will depower him outside of the UK.
Beast
08-19-2008, 01:05 PM
Now you have to admit that the current Captain Britain book is at least better than Black Panther.
Anything is better than Black Panther.
darknessatnoon
08-19-2008, 01:06 PM
I think it's ok. I mean, the first arc wasn't really clear. It had a lot of history in it I felt. Like, how was I supposed to know or care who Spitfire was? Plus, the generic ending where Captain Britain is all like "We should be a team....! I think he makes that same stupid speech everytime a random group of heroes is around him in England. And that's probably because he needs a group in england to be a part of because he is afraid his suit will depower him outside of the UK.
It's just not my cup o' tea.
MartinRedmond
08-19-2008, 01:12 PM
And that's probably because he needs a group in england to be a part of because he is afraid his suit will depower him outside of the UK.
Sounds good to me!!
jarrod
08-19-2008, 01:19 PM
I don't like Cornell or his concepts of the characters.
So rather than read it and complain, I chose not to. More people should do that.
Yes Beast, if only we all could be as polite, respectful and unconfrontational as you. Why, let's take a look at your measured and tasteful earlier words of wisdom...
Yeah, that's all we need.
More tacky moments from Cornell like him calling out her name in the middle of the night. Maybe he can up the tackyness by showing Wisdom with a bottle of lotion, a box of tissues, and Kitty's picture. :tongue:
jarrod
08-19-2008, 01:20 PM
I think he makes that same stupid speech everytime a random group of heroes is around him in England. And that's probably because he needs a group in england to be a part of because he is afraid his suit will depower him outside of the UK.
Rachel made the dumb random speech for the first Excalibur fyi. Would you like some scanz?
darknessatnoon
08-19-2008, 01:21 PM
Rachel made the dumb random speech for the first Excalibur fyi. Would you like some scanz?
I think that's because Brian was suffering from a hangover.
jarrod
08-19-2008, 01:25 PM
I think that's because Brian was suffering from a hangover.
I can believe that. The fact he wasn't abusing Meggan at the time clues us in that he wasn't drunk.
Beast
08-19-2008, 01:30 PM
Yes Beast, if only we all could be as polite, respectful and unconfrontational as you. Why, let's take a look at your measured and tasteful earlier words of wisdom...
It's called humor.
And not far off given we've already been told that Wisdom cries out her name in the middle of the night.
Or was it in the middle of sex? It's been a while since I read the Wisdom mini.
jarrod
08-19-2008, 01:33 PM
It's called humor.
And not far off given we've already been told that Wisdom cries out her name in the middle of the night.
Or was it in the middle of sex? It's been a while since I read the Wisdom mini.
My response was humor. Your holier-than-thou routine was humor too I guess though.... sorry for taking you seriously, I won't make that mistake again.
Swashbuckler
08-19-2008, 01:37 PM
Rachel made the dumb random speech for the first Excalibur fyi. Would you like some scanz?
See it's not even an original speech....It's stolen from some moronic time refugee! Even worse! No scanz please!
jarrod
08-19-2008, 01:39 PM
Se it's not even an original speech....It's stolen from some moronic time refugee! Even worse! No scanz please!
Worse still, Brian was actually last to sign on. He needed Meggan to coax him along!
Well, actually, Brain and Kitty were last to sign on together. Some best friend. :/
darknessatnoon
08-19-2008, 01:40 PM
jarrod,
I'm glad you edited out your "classy" comment to Beast, because ... you know... hypocrisy.
jarrod
08-19-2008, 01:43 PM
jarrod,
I'm glad you edited out your "classy" comment to Beast, because ... you know... hypocrisy.
It was unnecessary, I thought better after the fact.
I definitely prefer your humor though.
Beast
08-19-2008, 01:43 PM
jarrod,
I'm glad you edited out your "classy" comment to Beast, because ... you know... hypocrisy.
It's also the reason why his post didn't appear humorous, as he now claims.
Beast
08-19-2008, 01:44 PM
It was unnecessary, I thought better after the fact.
I definitely prefer your humor though.
So it wasn't intended to be humorous as you now claim. Gotcha. :wink:
jarrod
08-19-2008, 01:46 PM
So it wasn't intended to be humorous as you now claim. Gotcha. :wink:
My initial response was humor. Try to keep up.
darknessatnoon
08-19-2008, 01:47 PM
Ladies, please try to control yourselves.
jarrod
08-19-2008, 01:53 PM
Yes mother.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-19-2008, 02:48 PM
His Marvel Universe Series 2 Trading Card says otherwise. :P
I understand that it was printed to suggest that. Although it gores against all continuity and Handbook entries on the guy. Who knows how that came about...:confused:
I'd agree with you, but then I'd also say Betsy and Jamie aren't either. I think what bothers me most though is the arbitrary split there... I care less if they're all mutants or all not mutants (though I definitely prefer the latter), but they should all at least be the same thing imo. Especially the twins... I mean, are there any other cases of twins in the MU where one's a mutant and the other isn't?
Yeah, a bit bizarre. It kind of fudges genetics, to say the least...
I don't like Cornell or his concepts of the characters.
So rather than read it and complain, I chose not to. More people should do that.
Well, by and large, they're not. Three sell outs of the first three issues alone, a lot of very positive and praising reviews in the comics press and just plain people shouting how much they're digging it would suggest that's unlikely to happen.
I actually haven't enjoyed it at all, though it has nothing to do with Wisdom pining after Kitty (Wisdom just needs to die). I just think the book is kind of bullshitty.
Well that's a nice... specific criticism. :rolleyes:
I think it's ok. I mean, the first arc wasn't really clear. It had a lot of history in it I felt.
There was some, but then these are characters who've been around just as long as the X-Men in most cases. You're always going to have a certain amount of compromise, but I think this was a very easy lead in to that, by and large.
Like, how was I supposed to know or care who Spitfire was?
She's certainly a well travelled Marvel heroine. She's mostly appeared in Captain America, Namor and Invaders books. She's certainly had a fair amount of exposure in New invaders, Avengers and Brubaker's Captain America recently. She's hardly an unknown - but I guess it depends on what books you're reading.
Plus, the generic ending where Captain Britain is all like "We should be a team....! I think he makes that same stupid speech everytime a random group of heroes is around him in England.
It's the traditional Avengers rhetoric, yes. But that is very much what the team is intended to be. As was Excalibur. The key difference in this one is that they're tied to the British security services, which means they will largely be in the UK, but might just as easily be attending to British affairs anywhere in the world.
And that's probably because he needs a group in england to be a part of because he is afraid his suit will depower him outside of the UK.
Seriously, that's old long since retconned continuity. Davis removed it during his Excalibur run, where Roma explains that all of Brian's powers were being dampened to get him playing as a team player. Hell he's even been in space since then! :biggrin:
Beast
08-19-2008, 02:53 PM
Well, by and large, they're not. Three sell outs of the first three issues alone, a lot of very positive and praising reviews in the comics press and just plain people shouting how much they're digging it would suggest that's unlikely to happen.
*Facepalms*
Re-read my post. I'm not saying that people who like it shouldn't read it.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-19-2008, 02:57 PM
*Facepalms*
Re-read my post. I'm not saying that people who like it shouldn't read it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you stated that you chose not to read the book, amd thought the more people should also do that.
darknessatnoon
08-19-2008, 02:57 PM
Well that's a nice... specific criticism. :rolleyes:
What do you want me to say? I think it's crap on a stick.
jarrod
08-19-2008, 02:58 PM
What do you want me to say? I think it's crap on a stick.
*Facepalms*
tetragene
08-19-2008, 03:04 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you stated that you chose not to read the book, amd thought the more people should also do that.
in fairness to Beast what I got out of his post was "I don't like the book so I don't read it and therefore can't complain about it--and those that complain/don't like it should follow suit and not read it either."
*Facepalms*
play nice!
I haven't read the new MI book, but I'm glad its there for those that want to read those stories and those characters in those settings. We can definitely use books set outside of NY-freakin-City. I enjoyed Wisdom by Ellis but I think he's suffered a lot since then, particularly in NEX where he was the butt of all jokes. I don't have to read MI to know that it's leagues better than NEX though...lol...and I assume as a result Wisdom has benefited.
I'd read it if they extended membership to a certain hot red-headed Russian assassin... hey, if Wolverine can be on multiple teams having cross-Atlantic missions then so can Black Widow! :mad:
jarrod
08-19-2008, 03:05 PM
play nice!
I'm new at this "humor" thing, cut me some slack. :frown:
Beast
08-19-2008, 03:33 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you stated that you chose not to read the book, amd thought the more people should also do that.
No. That is not the point at all.
And thank you Tetragene. That's exactly what I mean.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-19-2008, 03:33 PM
What do you want me to say? I think it's crap on a stick.
What I'd expect is that you gave some kind of explanation of what you don't like about the book and what about it rubs you up the wrong way.
It's a forum - You come here to discuss stuff, not just to throw out random abuse.
I haven't read the new MI book, but I'm glad its there for those that want to read those stories and those characters in those settings. We can definitely use books set outside of NY-freakin-City. I enjoyed Wisdom by Ellis but I think he's suffered a lot since then, particularly in NEX where he was the butt of all jokes. I don't have to read MI to know that it's leagues better than NEX though...lol...and I assume as a result Wisdom has benefited.
A good 30 leagues better than NEX, Tetragene. Wisdom gets a lot more in character page time. The whole team has a better premise and the cast either lives in the UK or has a lot of history there (Like the Black Knight).
I'd read it if they extended membership to a certain hot red-headed Russian assassin... hey, if Wolverine can be on multiple teams having cross-Atlantic missions then so can Black Widow! :mad:
Sadly, I think Bendis has her well a truly sewn up there. But MI:13 at least got Blade - so it's not like Marvel aren't willing to let them have some bigger name players if they want.
BulletSpeed
08-19-2008, 03:36 PM
X-Force continues to be the isht. Ink is the stupidest character ever. Introducing Anole and hopfuly other characters we actualy care about is Young X-Mens saving grace. Wolfcub can die for all I care. It seems as if his character is way too different that in New X-men... Im not a fan. Uncanny sounds good. I dont understand why everyone is so down on Land's work? IMO Dodson's stuff is just plain UGLY and Id take Land over his isht anyday.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-19-2008, 03:47 PM
X-Force continues to be the isht. Ink is the stupidest character ever. Introducing Anole and hopfuly other characters we actualy care about is Young X-Mens saving grace. Wolfcub can die for all I care. It seems as if his character is way too different that in New X-men... Im not a fan. Uncanny sounds good. I dont understand why everyone is so down on Land's work? IMO Dodson's stuff is just plain UGLY and Id take Land over his isht anyday.
It's all down to personal taste really. I'm a long term fan of Dodson's work. He may not be the flashiest artist in the world, but he's a good solid superhero artist, and perfectly suited to pencilling a flagship title like Uncanny.
Land artwork always looks very pretty, very shiny, but I personally find that it feels ultimately very false. As a poster artist Land delivers great work, but as a panel-by-panel comic book artist his work feels very emotionless, very staged. I find it hard to buy into characters interacting when they're all Hollywood smiles, and frequently staring at the camera. Because there is no camera, and real people just don't physically interact with each other proxemically in the way that he places them.
tetragene
08-19-2008, 04:20 PM
X-Force continues to be the isht. Ink is the stupidest character ever. Introducing Anole and hopfuly other characters we actualy care about is Young X-Mens saving grace. Wolfcub can die for all I care. It seems as if his character is way too different that in New X-men... Im not a fan. Uncanny sounds good. I dont understand why everyone is so down on Land's work? IMO Dodson's stuff is just plain UGLY and Id take Land over his isht anyday.
:eek: Dodson's art is ugly to you but Land's is good? I don't think Land is a terrible artist--I mean, he clearly can draw but the tracing is quite lazy. I was willing to cut him a lot of slack up until this point--I mean...looking at the way Pixie's body is set-up when she is attacked it takes no stretch of the imagination to clearly see that he traced a porno pic. Look at Pixie's right hand and how it's twisted in that panel... clearly from a pic where a guy was holding a ho's wrist/arm has he got her from behind... and the facial expressions often don't fit the scenerio at all.
Num48champ
08-19-2008, 04:35 PM
Where's X-Men: First Class?:confused:
I almost posted that myself.
Who does Brian value more the ex-girlfriend who was murdered or the Wife who was lost to the void?
Well Cornell said that the search for Meggan would be addressed after Secret Invasion... so I'm guessing Brian is going to lean more towards her and not Courtney.
Brett P
08-19-2008, 05:00 PM
I think he's referring to the Divided We Stand mini where a wildly out of character Anole punched out Northstar (or did he elbow him, I can't remember and I'm afraid to ever look at those issues again). But to be fair everyone acted wildly out of character in that mini, except Nezhno for some reason.
'Cos Nehzno was written by the Yost!
the way ink and greymalkin stand back to back, it suggests they're a partnership. i get the idea that greymalkin is an extension of ink, possibly like a sentry/void type of thing. maybe ink's tattoo once turned into greymalkin, like one of his tattoos created life, and that was ink. or its a dual identity, greymalkin is ink's good side, and ink is greymalkin's bad side. then again, ink could be an extension of greymalkin, therefore making ink not the mutant and that explains why there were five mutant signatures in a room full of seven people.
i bet there's something to the both of them that has a lot to do with the other. seems like that might make the character interesting, if anything could.
I'd hope that their situation is something like this but they'll probably end up being two totally seperate yet equally bald characters...
Beast
08-19-2008, 05:04 PM
Where's X-Men: First Class?:confused:
I'm guessing on hiatus while Weapon X: First Class is running. Allows Jeff Parker some time off while he's preparing Agents of Atlas to premiere in Early 2009.
Jeff Parker's post on his website indicates it's not cancelled.
Comment from Parker
Time: August 19, 2008, 9:38 am
I knew the superobservant Beast would be the first to notice! What could this mean? Is something up with XFC?
Intrigues!
Peter F.
08-19-2008, 05:37 PM
'Cos Nehzno was written by the Yost!
So was Julian.
Brett P
08-19-2008, 05:50 PM
So was Julian.
Personally I rejoiced at Julian getting his edge back even if it was a little...extreme.
Can't help but get cross when we are getting stories in Young X-Men about their "bad boy" Ink now...
greenshoes713
08-19-2008, 06:30 PM
Personally I rejoiced at Julian getting his edge back even if it was a little...extreme.
Can't help but get cross when we are getting stories in Young X-Men about their "bad boy" Ink now...
ugh, Ink, gag me with a spoon
Num48champ
08-19-2008, 06:35 PM
I'm guessing on hiatus while Weapon X: First Class is running. Allows Jeff Parker some time off while he's preparing Agents of Atlas to premiere in Early 2009.
Jeff Parker's post on his website indicates it's not cancelled.
Good, I got scared for a second.
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