about 7 soldiers, mister miracle, and final crisis.

[Rio_de_Janeiro]

okay, IMHO, one MUST read the mister miracle mini. it's not just a question of a light connection, but a fundamental piece of the narrative. in it (spoilers for that mini, ok? read at your own accountability....), we see a scene of the "war which heaven lost", we find out shilo is immune to the ALE, we see the apokolips gods reincarnated, we know about the bodies being consumed, etc.

what sparks my curiosity is how 7S fits in with final crisis...are the sheeda before or after? can someone clarifiy this for me?

cheers,
rio

[DMike]

I believe Morrison says that Seven Soldiers takes place around the same time as Infinite Crisis or just before it (one of the possible futures Shilo sees is the OMACs taking down all the heroes in Metropolis).

[Paul McEnery]

The Sheeda have come and gone.

This is certainly after the Mister Miracle plotline, though I admit I don't know how Frankenstein is back with SHADE -- because I didn't read the Freedom Fighters thingy.

[rwe1138]

IIRC, Seven Soldiers happens a day or two before Infinite Crisis.

[Mat001]

Here's how it works. At the end of "Countdown To Final Crisis", Darkseid was killed. He found himself in heaven with all of his power fully unleashed. He then fought the war in heaven and won. He fell back to Earth, but he went back in time two years prior to "Infinite Crisis". This then leads into the events of "Seven Soldiers". Morrison confirmed that the burning figure was Darkseid falling backwards in time.

[Paul McEnery]

Grant's desperate in(ter)vention in the interview says that the events in DONG and Countdown should be read as earthly perceptions of what was happening in "heaven" on an "as above, so below" kind of a thing.

I imagine what he said in his kitchen had a few more rude words in it.

[Sean Walsh]

Grant's desperate in(ter)vention in the interview says that the events in DONG and Countdown should be read as earthly perceptions of what was happening in "heaven" on an "as above, so below" kind of a thing.

I imagine what he said in his kitchen had a few more rude words in it.

Sadly, I think that's the best we can ever get at this point: "our simple human minds on Earth can only imagine what a war amongst the gods would be like."

That said, DOTNG and its haphazard cosmic murder mystery was the best we could do? :frown:

[jade_nova]

Here's how it works. At the end of "Countdown To Final Crisis", Darkseid was killed. He found himself in heaven with all of his power fully unleashed. He then fought the war in heaven and won. He fell back to Earth, but he went back in time two years prior to "Infinite Crisis". This then leads into the events of "Seven Soldiers". Morrison confirmed that the burning figure was Darkseid falling backwards in time.

Where do we see that burning figure? I remember seeing it, I just can't remember where.

[Magneto Rocks]

That said, DOTNG and its haphazard cosmic murder mystery was the best we could do? :frown:

We had already been through months of conditioning with "Countdown" to make us braindead, yeah, I think DOTNG and it's "murder mystery where the murderer is the oinly suspect" was indeed the best our poor, befuddled brains could handle.

Where do we see that burning figure? I remember seeing it, I just can't remember where.

DC Universe #0!

[Paul McEnery]

Where do we see that burning figure? I remember seeing it, I just can't remember where.

DCU 0.
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