Dirty Deeds w/ Spiral!

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Dirty Deeds!

"Dirty Deeds" is a series of threads where a discussion can be held about the morally questionable, or outright evil acts of characters in comics. It might be a discussion about times a hero crossed a moral line they shouldn't have, or a discussion of a villain's most horrific acts in their history, but the premise remains the same.

Where possible, a poll will be included to vote upon said character's "dirtiest deed".

Please do remember that there are no wrong answers, this is all a matter of opinion. Since everyone has a different set of morals, please try and respect differences in people's own beliefs.

Previous Dirty Deeds Features:
#1- Dark Beast (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?p=7127725#post7127725)
#2- Mastermind (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=7146655)
#3- Colossus (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=229287)
#4- Donald Pierce (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=229784)
#5- Feral (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=230381&page=5)
#6- Pyro (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=230895)
#7- Juggernaut (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=231579 )
#8- Sunfire (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=232010 )
#9- Havok (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=232508)
#10- Emma Frost (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=232859)
#11- Rogue (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=233485)
#12- Sage (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=233799)

For our thirteenth profile, I thought we’d go back to taking a peek at someone who’s been a villain, and had her hand in a lot of the seedy underbelly of goings-on in the X-Universe. Whether it’s empowering enemies of the X-Men with cybernetic implants, or going into battle under the command of Mystique, the woman who was once Ricochet Rita has really been a thorn in he side of the Children of the Atom. Uh huh. You bet. This edition of Dirty Deeds is with...

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1149/spiral1awl3.gif

The only girl from the Mojoverse who can give you a High Thirty…
Spiral!!!

So what is Spiral's Dirtiest Deed?

- Attempting to sacrifice a baby as part of a magical ritual to return to the Mojoverse? (Longshot (vol. 1) #1)*

- Abducting her alternate universe self, Ricochet Rita-616 and nearly driving her insane? (Longshot #4)

- Shoving an old lady to the sidewalk and walking right over her? (Longshot (vol. 1) #6 )

- Helping Mojo redesign a church to worship him in a blasphemous nightmare, and laugh at the slaves while they toiled to place the image of his face all over it? (Longshot (vol. 1) #6 )

- Helping capture Magneto for the U.S. government while he was visiting the Holocaust museum with Kitty Pryde and trying to help her find out about her grandparents? - (Uncanny X-Men #199)

- Receiving payments to give cybernetic implants to Lady Deathstrike, Macon, Cole, and Reese, the original Reavers? - (Uncanny X-Men #205)*

-Attempting to arrest the X-Men as a member of Freedom Force without justification, or a warrant, including taking over Rogue’s body in the fight after Rogue tried to absorb her? (Uncanny X-Men #206)

- Kidnapping Rachel Summers for Mojo? (Uncanny X-Men #209)*

- Defeating both Monica Rambeau and Iron Man in battle against the Avengers when Freedom Force was arresting them for treason to throw them in the Vault? (Avengers Annual #15)*

- Attempting to arrest both Rusty Collins, and Skids, as a member of Freedom Force? (X-Factor #8)

- Kidnapping Leong and Nga Coy Manh, the two siblings of Karma, and experimenting on the children against their will? (kidnapped in New Mutants (vol. 1) #46, revealed in New Mutants Annual #2, and X-Force (vol. 1) #62 , experimentation shown in Beast (vol. 1) #1-3)*

- Kidnapping Psylocke with Mojo and remaking her in his image with cybernetic eyes as a way for Mojo to spy on the X-Men? (New Mutants Annual #2, revealed in Uncanny X-Men Annual #10)*

- Turning followers of Longshot, the Bratpack, into frogs? (Uncanny X-Men Annual #10)

- Casting a spell to permanently bond a knife and Destiny’s mask to Dazzler’s face? (Uncanny X-Men #225)*

- Attacking Jean Grey and Cyclops as a member of Freedom Force while they were mourning the supposed deaths of the X-Men in Dallas? (X-Factor (vol. 1) #31)

- Waiting until after X-Factor defeated the Alliance of Evil before stepping in to take them into custody as a member of Freedom Force? (X-Factor (vol. 1) #33)

- Participating in the process to have Psylocke swap bodies with Kwannon, and make her Asian? (revealed in X-Men (vol. 2) #31[/I/])

-Trying to kill Mojo’s servant, Arize, in the past before he could change her from an alternate Ricochet Rita, into Spiral? - Abducting her alternate universe self and nearly driving her insane? ([I]X-Factor Annual #7[/I/])

- Binding the soul of Shatterstar into the body of the mutant Benjamin Russell? ([I]X-Force (vol. 1) #60-61)

- Trying to bind the power of Captain Britain to herself and the Dragons of the Crimson Dawn? (Excalibur (vol. 1) #107-110)*

- Killing most of an alternate Earth’s heroes and setting herself up as ruler? (X-Force: Shatterstar #1-4[/I/])*

- Torturing an alternate Earth’s Sunspot by holding him captive and repeatedly raping him to where he didn’t have the energy to escape? ([I]X-Force: Shatterstar #3 [/I/])

- Creating a robot simulacrum of Jean Grey, called the “Jean Bomb” that would explode on some of the X-Men and transform them into X-Baby amalgams of themselves? ([I]Uncanny X-Men #461)

- Joining the Sisterhood, and attacking the X-Men at their Marin Base in San Francisco, and stabbing Nightcrawler and Colossus? (Uncanny X-Men #505-511)

And that’s the worst of everyone’s favorite six-armed inter-dimensional ne’er-do-well, Spiral! From one of Mojo’s agents, to being one member of Freedom Force, she’s had her fair share of shenanigans! Now vote for you think is the worst of Spiral’s Dirty Deeds!

http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/d/d3/Spiral.jpg/440px-Spiral.jpg

[Peter F.]

You know Abducting her alternate universe self, Ricochet Rita-616 and nearly driving her insane? should have been an option in the poll.

Helping make the original Reavers isn't dirty, it's just business.

[Dizzy D]

My winner:

- Helping Mojo redesign a church to worship him in a blasphemous nightmare, and laugh at the slaves while they toiled to place the image of his face all over it? (Longshot (vol. 1) #6 )

You could add her helping Mojo keeps Mojo on the throne and a whole species of people in slavery.

Don't quite get the evil-aspect of these though:

- Helping capture Magneto for the U.S. government while he was visiting the Holocaust museum with Kitty Pryde and trying to help her find out about her grandparents? - (Uncanny X-Men #199)

- Binding the soul of Shatterstar into the body of the mutant Benjamin Russell? (X-Force (vol. 1) #60-61)
(Though it is Shatterstar's life she saved there, so I can see it)

Can't remembering this happening at all:
- Turning followers of Longshot, the Bratpack, into frogs? (Uncanny X-Men Annual #15 )

The Bratpack was there , but the frogs were the frogs from Simonson's Thor-stories at the time. (and I think you mean #10 there?)

We just pretend this series never happened:
- Killing most of an alternate Earth’s heroes and setting herself up as ruler? ([i]X-Force: Shatterstar #1-4[/I/])*

- Torturing an alternate Earth’s Sunspot by holding him captive and repeatedly raping him to where he didn’t have the energy to escape? ([i]X-Force: Shatterstar #3 [/I/])

While terrible, it was terrible for whole other reasons
- Creating a robot simulacrum of Jean Grey, called the “Jean Bomb” that would explode on some of the X-Men and transform them into X-Baby amalgams of themselves? (Uncanny X-Men #461)

[worstblogever]

My winner:

- Helping Mojo redesign a church to worship him in a blasphemous nightmare, and laugh at the slaves while they toiled to place the image of his face all over it? (Longshot (vol. 1) #6 )


You could add her helping Mojo keeps Mojo on the throne and a whole species of people in slavery.



I strongly considered putting that one in the poll.

Don't quite get the evil-aspect of these though:

- Helping capture Magneto for the U.S. government while he was visiting the Holocaust museum with Kitty Pryde and trying to help her find out about her grandparents? - (Uncanny X-Men #199)

Well, arresting a guy trying to help out the ancestors of Holocaust victims in the middle of the Holocaust museum? Bad timing, at the very least. Innocent bystanders, as well as the location makes it a bad PR move.

- Binding the soul of Shatterstar into the body of the mutant Benjamin Russell? (X-Force (vol. 1) #60-61)

(Though it is Shatterstar's life she saved there, so I can see it)


Can't remembering this happening at all:
- Turning followers of Longshot, the Bratpack, into frogs? (Uncanny X-Men Annual #15 )

The Bratpack was there , but the frogs were the frogs from Simonson's Thor-stories at the time. (and I think you mean #10 there?)

Ah, yeah. I meant #10. But she does mess with the Bratpack in the midst of that issue. Altering kids, always bad, IMO.

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2767

We just pretend this series never happened:
- Killing most of an alternate Earth’s heroes and setting herself up as ruler? ([i]X-Force: Shatterstar #1-4[/I/])*

- Torturing an alternate Earth’s Sunspot by holding him captive and repeatedly raping him to where he didn’t have the energy to escape? ([i]X-Force: Shatterstar #3 [/I/])

Considering what "torture" is on that world, I wonder how she killed all those heroes. But yeah, I agree, this series... muy mal.

While terrible, it was terrible for whole other reasons
- Creating a robot simulacrum of Jean Grey, called the “Jean Bomb” that would explode on some of the X-Men and transform them into X-Baby amalgams of themselves? (Uncanny X-Men #461)

Yeah, making fun of a dead Jean is only funny when fans do it. When Spiral does it? Just wrong. :wink:

[worstblogever]

You know Abducting her alternate universe self, Ricochet Rita-616 and nearly driving her insane? should have been an option in the poll.

Helping make the original Reavers isn't dirty, it's just business.

See, I can agree if I go with the NRA logic of "cybernetic implants don't kill people, people kill people".

The only reason I didn't include Rita gettin' loco is that she managed to recover with the intervention of Longshot, Dr. Strange, and Wong.

[Dizzy D]

[QUOTE=worstblogever;7388992]
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2767

I think that reviewer never read the Thor-issues with the Frogs and completely misinterpreted that scene.

[worstblogever]

[QUOTE=worstblogever;7388992]
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=2767

I think that reviewer never read the Thor-issues with the Frogs and completely misinterpreted that scene.

Hmm... should I strike that from the record, then? (that'd be a first, actually)

[The Lucky One]

As bad as all of that stuff is, there really can't be any answer other than "trying to sacrifice a baby." I mean... it's a baby. She was ready to plunge the knife and everything. That's really damn evil.

-D

[worstblogever]

As bad as all of that stuff is, there really can't be any answer other than "trying to sacrifice a baby." I mean... it's a baby. She was ready to plunge the knife and everything. That's really damn evil.

-D

Makes you wonder what she's done off-panel, doesn't it?

[Push You Down]

As bad as all of that stuff is, there really can't be any answer other than "trying to sacrifice a baby." I mean... it's a baby. She was ready to plunge the knife and everything. That's really damn evil.

-D


Almost killing a baby is bad....

Actually holding someone hostage and raping them repeatedly... That's worse.

[worstblogever]

Almost killing a baby is bad....

Actually holding someone hostage and raping them repeatedly... That's worse.

Spiral has six fists.


That's all I have to say about that.

[Come To Deathstrike]

All the events are perfectly in reason.
I mean, if I was Spiral, I would have done them.
And dem sum.

[Bingo!]

Spiral's dagger was inches away from bleeding that infant. That was her worst deed.
Makes you wonder what she's done off-panel, doesn't it?

I wonder what horrors have been commited in her Body Shoppe. Does Rita still work for Mojo or is she taking the entrepreneurial route these days?

I keep hearing rumors of an upcoming magic based event for Marvel. If there is, Spiral would be a fun wild card to toss into the mix.

[Bingo!]

Spiral's dagger was inches away from bleeding that infant. That was her worst deed.
Makes you wonder what she's done off-panel, doesn't it?

I wonder what horrors have been commited in her Body Shoppe. Does Rita still work for Mojo or is she taking the entrepreneurial route these days?

I keep hearing rumors of an upcoming magic based event for Marvel. If there is, Spiral would be a fun wild card to toss into the mix.

[worstblogever]

Spiral's dagger was inches away from bleeding that infant. That was her worst deed.


I wonder what horrors have been commited in her Body Shoppe. Does Rita still work for Mojo or is she taking the entrepreneurial route these days?

I keep hearing rumors of an upcoming magic based event for Marvel. If there is, Spiral would be a fun wild card to toss into the mix.

After the tease we saw in Endangered Species, Spiral needs to be brought out and thrown back into the mix.


I wonder if she's behind the "Sisterhood"? Hot evil chicks do get ratings, I could see her being the leader for Mojo. Just sayin'.

[Quinnhop]

Her continuous molestation of Betsy is totally her evil.

The bitch.

[The Black Guardian]

Helping arrest the Avengers for treason they didn't commit to lock them all in the vault? Clearly she knew how treasonous those Avengers bastiches would become in the future. She was just ahead of her time.
Kidnapping Psylocke and recreating her in Mojo's image with cybernetic camera eyes? Nah. This was a good thing for Betsy.
Casting a spell to permanently bond a knife, and Destiny's mask to Dazzler's face? C'mon. This is me. Making a snide remark from that is just too easy.

Her dirtiest deeds are as yet unrecorded. She doesn't strike me as the type that would ignore all of the possibilities of having so many hands. And you know what they say about idle hands.

[CJ Lentze]

But Spiral doesn't strike me as someone who struggles a lot with morality in the first place. She has an unhinged mind, and most criminal acts she commits are either in service of Mojo or for her own jollies.

Where do we get the best look into Spiral's mind with regard to how she views the things she does? On the surface, she seems callous in her cruelty.

[worstblogever]

But Spiral doesn't strike me as someone who struggles a lot with morality in the first place. She has an unhinged mind, and most criminal acts she commits are either in service of Mojo or for her own jollies.

Where do we get the best look into Spiral's mind with regard to how she views the things she does? On the surface, she seems callous in her cruelty.

I agree, Spiral's pretty random and unhinged from the effects of interdimensional existence. While she is Mojo's #1 talent (I'd say lackey, but I know about his Major Domo), she's also done quite a bit of questioning his orders, are working on her own. How she got herself into Freedom Force puzzles me.

Which issue is the definitive Spiral issue to explain her mind? Damn, that's a hard one. Partially because of how inconsistently she's portrayed. I'd say either the Longshot series, her augmentation of Psycloke, or the Beast mini. But that's just my opinion.

[jarrod]

Which issue is the definitive Spiral issue to explain her mind? Damn, that's a hard one. Partially because of how inconsistently she's portrayed. I'd say either the Longshot series, her augmentation of Psycloke, or the Beast mini. But that's just my opinion.
No love for X-Factor Annual 7?

[Bic]

Spiral knew that Mojo was going to create the X-Babies but did nothing to stop him. That woman has ice in her veins.

[AcesX1X]

No love for X-Factor Annual 7?

I loved that story. It was the first time I ever read about Spiral.

[We R. Venom]

Lovely. I think you mean Sexy deeds though!:cool: It was hard to decide. Sacrificing a baby, and killing most of earth's heroes I had to pick.

[Magneto X]

I have the NSFW "dirty deeeds w/ Spiral" but just in my head.

For this, I checked the blinding of Dagger. Because she had no plan. She did it on a whim. Dazzler's power had no effect on her and so Spiral, so casually and easily, blinded and deformed the girl for months to come. Awesomely bad ass.

[Magneto X]

There it is:

http://tatooine.fortunecity.com/bear/353/lightengale.jpg

[x_goalkeeper]

It seems my choices agree with most, which are the sacrifice of a baby and killing the alternate universe heroes.

Between those two I think the baby sacrifice is worse! Because with heroes it is sort of in the job requirement to be in danger.

[Justin K.]

Why is only one of her arms metallic?

[x_goalkeeper]

Why is only one of her arms metallic?

Cybernetics is one of her skills, it seems like she made it metallic to give her advantage somehow?

[kk1]

Making Betsy into an Asian ninja has to be the worst thing she's ever done...hate ninja Psylocke.

[FeminineMystique]

Spiral has six fists.


That's all I have to say about that.

Be still my beating heart. And other bodily organs.

Anyone find it weird that Spiral seems to have commited far wickeder deeds than APOCALYPSE?!

[Raptor]

Wanting to return to Mojoverse was her worst idea.

The baby sacrifice had nothing to do with my choice.

[The Lucky One]

Why is only one of her arms metallic?

My guess? Mojo's crazy.

Understand that current Mojo, in fact almost any Mojo appearance since the original Longshot miniseries (possible exception made for Judd Winick's Mojo) has been at best a pale shadow of the original character. These days he's just a fat, greedy bastard. Back then he WAS that, but God, so much more. Truly insane- not insane the way Doctor Doom is insane, really insane, like constantly babbling sentences that don't make any sense and doing things no rational person could figure out. The Joker, given the powers of Doctor Strange. He was an incredibly powerful sorcerer who derived power from worship (not ratings, they were just a means to worship), and his very essence was putrid- people felt constantly sick in his presence, plants and small animals withered and died when he touched them. He exuded corruption and anti-life, wanted to build a tower to the sun, and was one of numerous evil beings in the rich fantasy world Longshot came from.

Now he's just an ugly TV producer who pops up for comedy stories and the Mojoverse is nothing but a one-note television world, so that's all null and void. But back when Spiral was created? Mojo specifically stated that he gave her six arms to make her a freak, to ensure she could never return to Earth and live a normal life. My guess is that making one of them mechanical was just a way of furthering that goal.

(Or the real answer: Art Adams thought it was a cool design. But that's much less interesting.)

-D

[psychic_therapy]

Killing off of the heroes does it for me. Also concur with an earlier post, shocking how Spiral has a more distiguished resume' than Apocalypse.

[FeminineMystique]

Understand that current Mojo, in fact almost any Mojo appearance since the original Longshot miniseries (possible exception made for Judd Winick's Mojo) has been at best a pale shadow of the original character. These days he's just a fat, greedy bastard. Back then he WAS that, but God, so much more. Truly insane- not insane the way Doctor Doom is insane, really insane, like constantly babbling sentences that don't make any sense and doing things no rational person could figure out. The Joker, given the powers of Doctor Strange. He was an incredibly powerful sorcerer who derived power from worship (not ratings, they were just a means to worship), and his very essence was putrid- people felt constantly sick in his presence, plants and small animals withered and died when he touched them. He exuded corruption and anti-life, wanted to build a tower to the sun, and was one of numerous evil beings in the rich fantasy world Longshot came from.

Huh. Sorry to go off topic but is that mini collected in a trade at all? Would be interesting to see this take on Mojo.

[The Lucky One]

Huh. Sorry to go off topic but is that mini collected in a trade at all? Would be interesting to see this take on Mojo.

Yep! (http://www.amazon.com/X-Men-Longshot-Ann-Nocenti/dp/0785130918/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240975248&sr=1-1) :wink:

-D