Young X-Men #5 Preview

[metalgorgomon]

CBR has the preview pages of Young X-Men #5:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=861&disp=table

OMG.. DUST!!!!

[worstblogever]

Greymalkin's fear of witchcraft makes me raise an eyebrow.

And Guggenheim has his own, "WHAT THE DEVIL!?!" I think I'll be on the lookout for a "What devilry?" now, to see if it's a fluke.

Still, seeing Magma take care of Dust is nice. Although, I'm curious to see how Sooraya reacts to having been seen naked by Greymalkin, for future reference, too. That's sort of a no-no for Ms. Qadir's own personal beliefs. Even if it's not her fault, I hope she doesn't beat herself up about it.

It looks like a fun preview, and I'm glad to see Wolfcub didn't get to one-shot Sunspot. That'd have been ridiculous.

The question also stands... who opened Magma's cell? And where are Blindfold and Dani?

I may be the only one, but I'm excited to see how this arc ends.

[claimtosubclaim]

Guggs sexed up Blindfold, but I didn't think he would do the same to Dust, haha.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Still not sold, but it looks like a slight improvement may yet come.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Still not sold, but it looks like a slight improvement may yet come.

[metalgorgomon]

Greymalkin's fear of witchcraft makes me raise an eyebrow.

Still, seeing Magma take care of Dust is nice. Although, I'm curious to see how Sooraya reacts to having been seen naked by Greymalkin, for future reference, too. That's sort of a no-no for Ms. Qadir's own personal beliefs. Even if it's not her fault, I hope she doesn't beat herself up about it.

It looks like a fun preview, and I'm glad to see Wolfcub didn't get to one-shot Sunspot. That'd have been ridiculous.

The question also stands... who opened Magma's cell? And where are Blindfold and Dani?

I may be the only one, but I'm excited to see how this arc ends.


I also think the preview pages show some promises to the series. Glad we're gonna see some Sunspot and Magma action next issue.

I had the same expression with Greymalkin; seing Dust's last panel.... "Wow" (How could you Guggenheim?? :tongue: )

[fitditz]

Sooooo turned off by the art. Can someone please tell me they're switching artists???

[timbox]

I heard something about Bachalo or Pollina joining the team for this book.

[steve2275]

Sooooo turned off by the art. Can someone please tell me they're switching artists???
i think its the best yet

[jarrod]

Looks promising... and yay Magma!

[APOLLO369]

the last page gave me chills. it seems as though Sunspot is finally gonna kick some BOOOOOTY

When does this come out ? plz

[The Lucky One]

When does this come out ? plz

Next week.

Nice to see 'Mara getting to be a bit useful, and with some snark to her. "What did I just say?" Heh. I do think Wolfcub needs to get his eyesight checked, since he keeps thinking he's disemboweled people and it turns out they've only been lightly scratched.

-D

[$5 Milkshake]

This looks good! There's something interesting about Greymalking here, and I'm really looking forward to reading about him.

[Josef F.]

I love the "OMG WOLFCUB HAS TO STOP BEING SO FORCEFUL AND RIPPING OUT PEOPLES KIDNEYS AND PERMANENTLY SCARRING SUNSPOT"

That was a good argument.

[xmanfan527]

I heard something about Bachalo or Pollina joining the team for this book.

i hope so i love bachalo

[$5 Milkshake]

I heard something about Bachalo or Pollina joining the team for this book.

That sounds like a cruel lie engineered to raise hope amongst the thread readers.

[prince_nightcrawler]

Omg, I love Magma! Yeah Magma and Dust they are both so yaylicious!!! :biggrin: Yay they are using their powers and being cool and just love awesome cool yay.

[lockerogue]

This looks so good. OMG naked Dust.

[Hakael]

That sounds like a cruel lie engineered to raise hope amongst the thread readers.

I'd agree... you generally don't go from Amazing Spider-Man to a youth X-Title... unless he's just in for a fill in issue or two.

I know some people don't like the art, but I think this book has bigger problems than that. The art is serviceable.

[jarrod]

I heard something about Bachalo or Pollina joining the team for this book.
I know you're making this up, but Pollina srsly needs to be on this book. His Dani & Roberto > *.

[escapegoat]

Timbox is full of it. There've been no rumors of the artist getting replaced. That's just his wishful thinking.

That said, to all you whiners complaining about Yannick's work....he's got more talent than the lot of youse combined, so get over it. I think his work on this series has been great.

[timbox]

Timbox is full of it. There've been no rumors of the artist getting replaced. That's just his wishful thinking.


I thought we were teammates. :frown:

[wolvie616]

wow, this arc got good at the end when i heard word of cypher by greymalkin, and this looks a lot better than the previous issues

i just hope it stays like that...

[escapegoat]

I thought we were teammates. :frown:

Sorry man...tough love :tongue:

Seriously though.....if you've got any proof to any artist replacement rumors, then I'll gladly eat my hat.

Nevermind the fact that I dont' ever wear a hat....

[jarrod]

I don't mind Yannick's work honestly, it's solid. I feel his Ultimate and XM Civil War stuff was better though for some reason I can't exactly put my finger on. :/

Still, that doesn't mean I don't want Pollina on this book asap. And Lockheed.

[Josef F.]

My only problems with Paquette is Wolfcub's brand new snout, and Rockslide looks a bit like an ant.
Everything else is grand!

Oh, and it needs moar Icarus

[escapegoat]

I don't mind Yannick's work honestly, it's solid. I feel his Ultimate and XM Civil War stuff was better though for some reason I can't exactly put my finger on. :/

Still, that doesn't mean I don't want Pollina on this book asap. And Lockheed.

My best guess would be because of the different inkers....they can really affect the penciled artwork...they ain't just tracers y'know! :wink:

[jarrod]

My only problems with Paquette is Wolfcub's brand new snout, and Rockslide looks a bit like an ant.
Everything else is grand!

Oh, and it needs moar Icarus
Having the kids suddenly look like twenty-five years olds irks me too. Blindfold and Wolfcub being the most jarring shifts, but to be fair, those two were partly intentional too.


My best guess would be because of the different inkers....they can really affect the penciled artwork...they ain't just tracers y'know! :wink:
That could be it. Who's inking him now again?

[jarrod]

My only problems with Paquette is Wolfcub's brand new snout, and Rockslide looks a bit like an ant.
Everything else is grand!

Oh, and it needs moar Icarus
Having the kids suddenly look like twenty-five years olds irks me too. Blindfold and Wolfcub being the most jarring shifts, but to be fair, those two were partly intentional too.


My best guess would be because of the different inkers....they can really affect the penciled artwork...they ain't just tracers y'know! :wink:
That could be it. Who's inking him now again?

[$5 Milkshake]

My best guess would be because of the different inkers....they can really affect the penciled artwork...they ain't just tracers y'know! :wink:

It's actually the colors that bug me. Everything seems a little too dull.

[escapegoat]

Having the kids suddenly look like twenty-five years olds irks me too. Blindfold and Wolfcub being the most jarring shifts, but to be fair, those two were partly intentional too.

They don't look twenty-fiveish to me, but they don't quite look like the correct ages they're suppose to be either. They look like they're 18-20 to me. Not too many artists out there can draw a convincing teenager. That's what attracted me to Scottie Young's New X-Men designs. He was actually able to nail the appearance of their ages right. I wasn't even a fan of his work til I saw his New X-Men work.


That could be it. Who's inking him now again?

Ray Snyder. Serge LaPointe inked Yannick in Civil War X-men, so I'd say the likelyhood in variation is in the inker.

[pryde15]

Having the kids suddenly look like twenty-five years olds irks me too. Blindfold and Wolfcub being the most jarring shifts, but to be fair, those two were partly intentional too.

Paco Medina. That is all that needs to be said to this statement. PACO. MEDINA.

[escapegoat]

It's actually the colors that bug me. Everything seems a little too dull.

True...the coloring is a bit different from the norm, which can reflect on the actual artwork...but I've seen worse done coloring-wise, having survived the glut period of the 90's :tongue:

[escapegoat]

Paco Medina. That is all that needs to be said to this statement. PACO. MEDINA.

It's Paco Medina's fault???? :confused:


* shakes fist at Paco Medina*

[Josef F.]

It's actually the colors that bug me. Everything seems a little too dull.

Y'know what can help that.
Bright red!

[timbox]

Bright anything. The colors are very bland.

[pryde15]

It's Paco Medina's fault???? :confused:

No. He says his big problem with the art is how old it makes them look. Paco did this as well, but to an extreme.

Pixie a 14 year old girl, usually flat chested, does not wake up one day with a DD bra size!

[escapegoat]

Y'know what can help that.
Bright red!


and Lime Green :biggrin:

[The Lucky One]

Pixie a 14 year old girl, usually flat chested, does not wake up one day with a DD bra size!

Hey, a lot of girls do... it's just that the unspoken addendum is "...with some wicked scars and $8000 poorer."

-D

[escapegoat]

No. He says his big problem with the art is how old it makes them look. Paco did this as well, but to an extreme.

Pixie a 14 year old girl, usually flat chested, does not wake up one day with a DD bra size!

Ugh...that's just wrong and makes me think of Greg Land's version of her :mad:

[pryde15]

Hey, a lot of girls do... it's just that the unspoken addendum is "...with some wicked scars and $8000 poorer."

-D

I hope one of them bursts...


JUST TO TEACH THEM ALL A LESSON.

[escapegoat]

Hey, a lot of girls do... it's just that the unspoken addendum is "...with some wicked scars and $8000 poorer."

-D

Pixie could never afford the $8000 for something like that....plus she wouldn't do that to herself....she's just not that vain or self-concious of herself.

[pryde15]

Ugh...that's just wrong and makes me think of Greg Land's version of her :mad:

But Greg Land always has them smiling... or with their mouth open.

[jarrod]

They don't look twenty-fiveish to me, but they don't quite look like the correct ages they're suppose to be either. They look like they're 18-20 to me. Not too many artists out there can draw a convincing teenager. That's what attracted me to Scottie Young's New X-Men designs. He was actually able to nail the appearance of their ages right. I wasn't even a fan of his work til I saw his New X-Men work.
16 year olds don't look all that different from 18 year olds honestly. I wouldn't say any of them look a day under 21.

But otherwise, 100% agreed. I wasn't a fan of Young until his NXM either.


Paco Medina. That is all that needs to be said to this statement. PACO. MEDINA.
Yeah, Medina did it too. Actually, I think Medina had a lot of the same ticks that Paquette does (indistinct characters, repeated poses/angles, slick "safe" style, limited emotional range, etc), but he was a bit more dynamic. They're both very solid genre artists imo.

[pryde15]

16 year olds don't look all that different from 18 year olds honestly. I wouldn't say any of them look a day under 21.

But otherwise, 100% agreed. I wasn't a fan of Young until his NXM either.



Yeah, Medina did it too. Actually, I think Medina had a lot of the same ticks that Paquette does (indistinct characters, repeated poses/angles, slick "safe" style, limited emotional range, etc), but he was a bit more dynamic. They're both very solid genre artists imo.

Pixie is 14 though.

[jarrod]

Pixie is 14 though.
Sure, I'm not disagreeing. I wish she still looked it.

[APOLLO369]

is any body noticing a squadron sepreme 2 #2 in the center of the young x-men #5 preview page 2.

[escapegoat]

is any body noticing a squadron sepreme 2 #2 in the center of the young x-men #5 preview page 2.

What!?!?! That's just crazy talk. Time to get your eyes checked.....



Okay, okay, I saw it too :tongue:

[Teh m0nk3y]

I hope there's only that one panel of Dust naked and not any other in this upcoming issue.
It bothers me because I as a reader know her view on clothing. Dust is not supposed to be sexed up. It's a small betrayal of her character.
I wouldn't give a damn if any of the other female or male characters happened to fall into such a situation though.

[Petes Pants]

I'm not crazy about Paquette's work but the colors definitely don't help.

I always feel like someone left this book out in the sun for years before I bought it.

[The Lucky One]

I hope there's only that one panel of Dust naked and not any other in this upcoming issue.
It bothers me because I as a reader know her view on clothing. Dust is not supposed to be sexed up. It's a small betrayal of her character.

Not to start a debate or anything, but how is it a betrayal of her character? It might qualify if on the next page she wakes up, realizes she's naked, does a few leisurely cat stretches, then strolls to the closet for a tube top and miniskirt, pausing only to limber up with a few jumping jacks first. (And if that's what happens, then sure, I'm with you.) But if she wakes up and is horrified to discover she's naked because it's such a violation of her religious beliefs, that's not a betrayal of her character; it's just an example of bad things happening to a character. (See: every other issue of X-Men ever.)

-D

[Petes Pants]

I enjoyed that post. It made me giggle.

[jarrod]

If only Warlock was there to cover up! Maybe we'll see Greymalkin try?

[Teh m0nk3y]

Not to start a debate or anything, but how is it a betrayal of her character? It might qualify if on the next page she wakes up, realizes she's naked, does a few leisurely cat stretches, then strolls to the closet for a tube top and miniskirt, pausing only to limber up with a few jumping jacks first. (And if that's what happens, then sure, I'm with you.) But if she wakes up and is horrified to discover she's naked because it's such a violation of her religious beliefs, that's not a betrayal of her character; it's just an example of bad things happening to a character. (See: every other issue of X-Men ever.)

-D

And that's why I used small before the word betrayal. The writer set it up so the readers gets to see some skin. That's the way I see it. Was it necessary to have Dust reform naked? Didn't her latest outfit transform with her compared to the days of past?

[escapegoat]

And that's why I used small before the word betrayal. The writer set it up so the readers gets to see some skin. That's the way I see it. Was it necessary to have Dust reform naked? Didn't her latest outfit transform with her compared to the days of past?

I'm guessing Magma's process destroyed the regular costume in the process.

....they just don't make unstable molecule costumes like they used too... :tongue:

[jarrod]

I think Magma did it on purpose. She was tired of being the only one naked.

[escapegoat]

I think Magma did it on purpose. She was tired of being the only one naked.

LOL....that hussy Amanda!!!

[jarrod]

LOL....that hussy Amanda!!!
You mean Amara! Not that Amanda isn't a hussy herself. :biggrin:

[escapegoat]

You mean Amara! Not that Amanda isn't a hussy herself. :biggrin:

D'oh!...how did I mess her name up like that?

I guess that's what happen when a character doesn't show up often enough anymore...

[jarrod]

D'oh!...how did I mess her name up like that?

I guess that's what happen when a character doesn't show up often enough anymore...
It's okay, for awhile Amara herself didn't get her own name right either. :wink:

[MartinRedmond]

That's a pretty boring Magma scene unless someone plans on jacking off to this comic. I miss the 80s, I even miss the 90s now. And her curly hair's gone. :/

[$5 Milkshake]

That's a pretty boring Magma scene unless someone plans on jacking off to this comic. I miss the 80s, I even miss the 90s now. And her curly hair's gone. :/

None of this make any sense.

[APOLLO369]

What!?!?! That's just crazy talk. Time to get your eyes checked.....



Okay, okay, I saw it too :tongue:

im not joking im looking at it the preview right now.

[The Lucky One]

That's a pretty boring Magma scene unless someone plans on jacking off to this comic.

You and I both know that someone is going to, somewhere.

And her curly hair's gone. :/

Ever lived with a woman? Curly hair + intense heat = straight hair. :wink:

-D

[Slung]

It's okay, for awhile Amara herself didn't get her own name right either. :wink:

Oh, Alison Crestmere.

[MartinRedmond]

I know! But I like variety. There's no more big haired chicks really.

[Anna]

Guggs sexed up Blindfold, but I didn't think he would do the same to Dust, haha.

Dust had already been established as an attractive young girl.

[MuhollandDriver]

Well, even if this singular issues is an improvement...it will take a lot to make up for the first four very unfabulous issues.

Let's hope it is moving in a better direction.

[greenshoes713]

Paco Medina. That is all that needs to be said to this statement. PACO. MEDINA.

Yes he's so awesome!

is any body noticing a squadron sepreme 2 #2 in the center of the young x-men #5 preview page 2.

Yeah i was all WTF? So random:confused:

Oh yeah THIS BOOK SUUUKS!

[Seikun21]

This preview was pretty good. Though it may have to do with the fact that most of the Young X-men didn't even get lines, it was mostly Magma being cool. They should have just let Guggenheim write the New Mutants instead of the X-Students.

[sneggz]

greymalkin's eyes conveyed how bad he felt after hitting dust, poor guy. the colors do look a bit better. actually looking forward to this issue.

[The Black Guardian]

And that's why I used small before the word betrayal. The writer set it up so the readers gets to see some skin. That's the way I see it. Was it necessary to have Dust reform naked? Didn't her latest outfit transform with her compared to the days of past?
Even in her first appearance she was able to form/transform her clothing. However, there have been times when she didn't. At a guess, it takes extra concentration, and at the moment, she's barely or not even conscious.
Pixie a 14 year old girl, usually flat chested, does not wake up one day with a DD bra size!
Even early art of Pixie showed her well endowed. It's the flat-chest that was wrong. When we first saw her, she was wearing a frumpy sweater/turtleneck thing, but later, when in spandex, she was what you'd typically see in a superhero.

[Monty_Cristo]

i don't like Greymalkin.

[Seikun21]

i don't like Greymalkin.

Eh he's new, we'll see how long he lasts. He feels like a Maggott type character. He'll disappear eventually

[jester1436]

That's a pretty boring Magma scene unless someone plans on jacking off to this comic. I miss the 80s, I even miss the 90s now. And her curly hair's gone. :/

Put down the pipe. Crack is wack!

[jester1436]

Eh he's new, we'll see how long he lasts. He feels like a Maggott type character. He'll disappear eventually

Much like Shortpack.

BURN MONTY BURN.

[Seikun21]

Much like Shortpack.

BURN MONTY BURN.

No if you want to get him angry insult Shortpack AND the Irredeemable Ant-Man AND Scott Lang while praising Hank Pym. Monty will tear down the internet looking for you, he will feast on your blood

[jester1436]

No if you want to get him angry insult Shortpack AND the Irredeemable Ant-Man AND Scott Lang while praising Hank Pym. Monty will tear down the internet looking for you, he will feast on your blood

I like Hank Pym more than all of those other little people, to be honest.

RIP Scott Lang though.

Maybe Greymalkin can talk to him like he talks to Cypher or whatever mess is going on.

[claimtosubclaim]

Dust had already been established as an attractive young girl.

It was a joke, one that actually had nothing to do with physical level of attractiveness and everything to do with Gugg's edict "draw her with less and/or tighter clothes!" My 'haha' must have gone unnoticed.

[Dr. Chaos]

Paquette seems to be getting better...wait...no, I'm only just saying that becuase he drew Dust naked.

Sorry, nevermind.

[steve2275]

Paquette seems to be getting betteru would be right:tongue:

[Stagier]

paquette has always been a solid artist, even back in his gambit days.

KILL INK!

[Seikun21]

paquette has always been a solid artist, even back in his gambit days.

KILL INK!

Kill them ALL! Just save Dust, Blindfold, and Greymalkin. Rockslide probably can't die at this point anyways.

[Starleafgirl]

I have to wonder if ANYBODY didn't see "that's not really Cyclops" coming from a mile away... but I'm glad they didn't actually try to force it to actually be Cyclops for some dumb reason...

Anyway, I read the preview pages and... I don't really agree with her logic. Grinding or the passage of time would turn glass back into sand, sure, but isn't it extreme heat that causes sand to become glass? Why would using heat to turn glass into sand make any kind of sense at all? All it would do is melt the glass, I think...

[Quinnhop]

I know I'm alone, but I'm really enjoying this series.

What's with the complaints about the art? It's solid, for me.

And people claim to love Stroman. WTF.

[Stagier]

i can speak for myself, and say that originally i didn't get stroman. i found it confusing, during his original x factor run. But as they say taste changes when you get older.


the question is why didn't blindfold see it coming, or did she. gugg better wrap this up nicely.

[Starleafgirl]

I know I'm alone, but I'm really enjoying this series.

What's with the complaints about the art? It's solid, for me.

And people claim to love Stroman. WTF.

Um... well... about the art... comparing to pretty much everything I've seen in the last few years, it's really bad. Or maybe it's just the washed out colors that are making me think it's less attractive. I don't know, maybe I'm just spoiled when it comes to nice, pretty, big colorful art. And I'm a girl. So there's that. :rolleyes:

[Leogam]

Where did this guy come from & who exactly is he Im still confused, Whats this I hear of Doug Ramsey coming back as a ghost at the mansion or something ???
I havent bought a single issue of Young X-Men yet, the direction of the book is boring me. Im not really feeling the art I really liked Scottie Young he made them really look like young kids. But to be honest the only young characters that I liked between New X-Men & Academy X were: Quentin Quire, The Stepford Cuckoos, Beak, Angel Salvadore, Dust / Blindfold, Anole, Elixir. Im still not sure about Pixie, Mercury, Prodigy

[The Black Guardian]

Where did this guy come from & who exactly is he Im still confused, Whats this I hear of Doug Ramsey coming back as a ghost at the mansion or something ???
We don't know yet, but Greymalkin has mentioned something about Cypher. I've heard theories that Greymalkin could be anyone from Doug to Jeffrey Garrett (the teleporter that got stuck in ghost form). He's most likely someone new... or he's possessed by the Ghosts of Mutants' Future Past.

[Dagger]

No if you want to get him angry insult Shortpack AND the Irredeemable Ant-Man AND Scott Lang while praising Hank Pym. Monty will tear down the internet looking for you, he will feast on your blood
I really miss Scott Lang.:(

[Dagger]

Kill them ALL! Just save Dust, Blindfold, and Greymalkin. Rockslide probably can't die at this point anyways.
HEY!!! I love Wolfcub! Don't hurt him:(

[steve2275]

I know I'm alone, but I'm really enjoying this series.

What's with the complaints about the art? It's solid, for me.

And people claim to love Stroman. WTF.
youre not alone

[Seikun21]

HEY!!! I love Wolfcub! Don't hurt him:(

I didn't say anything about Wolfcub:rolleyes:

[Seikun21]

Damn double posts

[Pro]

but I'm glad they didn't actually try to force it to actually be Cyclops for some dumb reason...

Agreed, Cyclops looks much better dumping his students and taking a holiday.

[Flâneur]

That scene was good solely because Magma was in it and making Pierce and Greymalkin her bitches. Magma <3

[$5 Milkshake]

I didn't say anything about Wolfcub:rolleyes:

You said you wanted them all to die except a couple characters you named. You didnt name Wolf Cub!

That = you want Wolf Cub dead!

[cgar]

oh poor Wolfcub

[Starleafgirl]

Agreed, Cyclops looks much better dumping his students and taking a holiday.

I know, right? I didn't get that, either. Main, actual, probably-not-a-Skrull-cos-Emma-would-know Scott has been acting weird (different) for a little while now... he's always been kind of a jerk, but abandoning the students and having sex with Emma in every Marvel title? Meh... The worst part is that it seems mostly everyone is glorifying Scott's actions. Feel free to correct me. O.o

[Brett P]

It's good to see everything start to come together after what was a rocky start. I really hope Magma sticks around after this, I think she makes the line up very interesting. Yay for Dust! And I'm liking how Greymalkin is developing.

The question is, has the book got the staying power/reader interest now?

[Hakael]

The question is, has the book got the staying power/reader interest now?

Not yet it doesn't. We'll have to see the direction of the book once the team gets settled out west. I still think its a pretty poor book until it proves otherwise.

[Seikun21]

You said you wanted them all to die except a couple characters you named. You didnt name Wolf Cub!

That = you want Wolf Cub dead!

Oh, I must have forgotten to name him. Oh well no loss there.:tongue:

[MuhollandDriver]

It's good to see everything start to come together after what was a rocky start. I really hope Magma sticks around after this, I think she makes the line up very interesting. Yay for Dust! And I'm liking how Greymalkin is developing.

The question is, has the book got the staying power/reader interest now?

Is everything coming together?

It will take a lot in this upcomign issue to salvage the entire arc. Even if this next issue is breathtaking (and i hate to sound negative but i doubt it will be.....at best it will be an improvement)....i do not know if one issue can really make up for four very unfortunate issues.

[timbox]

Yanick Paquette can be awesome.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/ULTXMEN088.jpg

New ink/color for Young X-Men please!

[AN0LE]

well... hopefully, according to the October solicits, we won't have to put up with Paquette's less than stellar art going foward. Ben Olliver is apparently taking over with the October issue. A new team lineup and a new artist is definitely a step in the right direction.... no?

[Seikun21]

well... hopefully, according to the October solicits, we won't have to put up with Paquette's less than stellar art going foward. Ben Olliver is apparently taking over with the October issue. A new team lineup and a new artist is definitely a step in the right direction.... no?

A step. But it's a long arduous road ahead. Does this book have what it takes to make it?

[AN0LE]

A step. But it's a long arduous road ahead. Does this book have what it takes to make it?

Weeeeelllllll... I thought New X-Men had what it took to make it and we all know how that ended up... but, let's not revisit that tragedy, shall we?

[Seikun21]

Weeeeelllllll... I thought New X-Men had what it took to make it and we all know how that ended up... but, let's not revisit that tragedy, shall we?

We'd better not. So when are the solicits for November supposed to come out anyways?

[AN0LE]

We'd better not. So when are the solicits for November supposed to come out anyways?

I assume not until the start of September. Unless the cover for November's issue has the tombstones of Ink and/or Wolf Cub, front and center, on the cover... then I am not rushing it along :tongue:

[timbox]

Yanick Paquette is still on pencils in November.

[escapegoat]

Yanick Paquette is still on pencils in November.

Ya...Oliver is what they would call a "fill-in artist", so all you Yannick haters just settle down.
That said, the advance solicit cover for issue 8 is gonna make a lot of people very happy, cause it shows one of the new members to the team :wink:

[metalgorgomon]

I assume not until the start of September. Unless the cover for November's issue has the tombstones of Ink and/or Wolf Cub, front and center, on the cover... then I am not rushing it along :tongue:

Well.. the November cover doesn't have Wolfcub on it. But.. it has Anole!!!

[Anna]

Well.. the November cover doesn't have Wolfcub on it. But.. it has Anole!!!

The book's about to improve! Waitaminnit! Where's Blindfold?

[Kid Icarus]

Yanick Yay!
New cover yay!

[Seikun21]

Who thinks that Surge will actually join the Young X-men?

I miss Noriko

[timbox]

I miss Surge too. I hope she does show up in Young X-Men and is written the same as before.

I love her when she pisses off all the stupid boys.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5599/234348-8469-surge_super.jpg

I miss Skottie Young as well. :frown:

[Seikun21]

I liked Surge better before she yelled at David. Of course if she hadn't yelled at him he never would have accepted the Cuckoos offer to give him back that knowledge.

Prodigy needs to be used as well. He should be Forge and Beast combined, showing up everywhere with new technology and improvements.

[Sabrewulf]

Im pretty sure Greymalkin in the kid that died in Extinction one shot.

[AN0LE]

The book's about to improve! Waitaminnit! Where's Blindfold?

That concerns me too... I love Blindfold... She and Dust are the only two that I can tolerate in this title so far.

[timbox]

I don't think Blindfold is going to be killed, what would be the point of that?

[AN0LE]

I don't think Blindfold is going to be killed, what would be the point of that?

Has there really been a point to much of what has happened thus far in the book? :tongue:

[timbox]

Has there really been a point to much of what has happened thus far in the book? :tongue:

I certainly hope so. The point has just not been revealed to the readers yet!

[Swashbuckler]

Has there really been a point to much of what has happened thus far in the book? :tongue:

Sure there's a point. It's going to show that the younger kids still need the X-Men's help and that by throwing them to the winds they've continued their irresponsible training of the younger mutants. They ended up working for Pierce for crying outloud. This will lead to them distrusting Pierce and perhaps encouraging Magma or Dani or both to take a stand and take a group of younger mutants under their wing, making them the new Xavier role for this generation. It's a set-up for the series. That's on issue 5. And that hasn't even established it's full team. Can you read? Have you followed anything? New X-Men fans are NEVER HAPPY!

[timbox]

New X-Men fans are NEVER HAPPY!

Hey!! :frown:

[AN0LE]

Sure there's a point. It's going to show that the younger kids still need the X-Men's help and that by throwing them to the winds they've continued their irresponsible training of the younger mutants. They ended up working for Pierce for crying outloud. This will lead to them distrusting Pierce and perhaps encouraging Magma or Dani or both to take a stand and take a group of younger mutants under their wing, making them the new Xavier role for this generation. It's a set-up for the series. That's on issue 5. And that hasn't even established it's full team. Can you read? Have you followed anything? New X-Men fans are NEVER HAPPY!

Actually, yes, I can read... and quite well and often for that matter. My posting was merely referring to the fact that most (not necessarily all) have found this first arc full of plot-holes, bad art, some cast members acting out of character, and just an overall let down. I hope they are setting it up for improvement. I want it to be a success. I want it to get on the ball and be a great book. I just don't know if it can with most fans feeling as disenchanted as they are. Maybe after Wednesday we will finally have some long-awaited answers that we have been anticipating these last few months.

[AN0LE]

Does anyone else have any ideas as to who will be joining the team after the first arc aside from Anole? After the recent Wolverine one-shot, I am wondering if Trance will pop up.

[Seikun21]

Does anyone else have any ideas as to who will be joining the team after the first arc aside from Anole? After the recent Wolverine one-shot, I am wondering if Trance will pop up.

Trance or any of the background students showing up would be great. But I'm pretty sure it'd either only be a cameo or a guest appearance. Guggenheim wants to keep the cast small.

[AN0LE]

Trance or any of the background students showing up would be great. But I'm pretty sure it'd either only be a cameo or a guest appearance. Guggenheim wants to keep the cast small.

Yeah... I always thought that most of the backround students had more interesting powers and abilities than half of the main cast. But, hell, I'd take a cameo over seeing them sent to comic limbo. Even just a glimpse of Ernst dragging Martha around in her jar would be enough to make me happy :biggrin:

[Seikun21]

Yeah... I always thought that most of the backround students had more interesting powers and abilities than half of the main cast. But, hell, I'd take a cameo over seeing them sent to comic limbo. Even just a glimpse of Ernst dragging Martha around in her jar would be enough to make me happy :biggrin:

We at least know that Martha made it to San Francisco somewhere, we're just not sure when we'll see her again. Probably in Beast's lab. But what of poor Ernst?

[AN0LE]

We at least know that Martha made it to San Francisco somewhere, we're just not sure when we'll see her again. Probably in Beast's lab. But what of poor Ernst?

Ah, yes, it was rather thoughtful of Beast to go back to the mansion ruins to collect Martha... however, I would be a bit miffed if I was her... just sitting under a pile of rubble for an undisclosed number of weeks/months... :rolleyes:

I also wonder about Mercury... as we have seen her in the Secret Invasion crossover but still don't know which team she becomes affiliated with.

[AcesX1X]

But what of poor Ernst?

Ernst was a figment of Martha's imagination. Don't believe what you see!

[Seikun21]

Ah, yes, it was rather thoughtful of Beast to go back to the mansion ruins to collect Martha... however, I would be a bit miffed if I was her... just sitting under a pile of rubble for an undisclosed number of weeks/months... :rolleyes:

I also wonder about Mercury... as we have seen her in the Secret Invasion crossover but still don't know which team she becomes affiliated with.

Good thing they didn't show her thought bubbles eh? Probably filled with swear words.

Cessily being in San Francisco means that she's still affiliated with the X-men. So she might not join X-Factor now. That leaves Young X-men and Uncanny X-men. I doubt Mercury will join Young X-men, Guggenheim wants a small cast. So she may show up in an insignificant role in Uncanny. Legacy is still the Xavier book. X-Force seems very unlikely since she's not really a killer, she does have arm blades though so she fits in with the stabbityness of that series.

[AN0LE]

Good thing they didn't show her thought bubbles eh? Probably filled with swear words.

Cessily being in San Francisco means that she's still affiliated with the X-men. So she might not join X-Factor now. That leaves Young X-men and Uncanny X-men. I doubt Mercury will join Young X-men, Guggenheim wants a small cast. So she may show up in an insignificant role in Uncanny. Legacy is still the Xavier book. X-Force seems very unlikely since she's not really a killer, she does have arm blades though so she fits in with the stabbityness of that series.

HAHA... can you imagine if there was an entire segment of <I>Divided We Stand</I> that only had panels of Martha sitting in the rubble, swearing her...well...brains off. I would totally read it and lose my sh*t.

I have to agree with Cessily possibly having a recurring role in Uncanny. Aside from her T-1000 blade arms, I can't really see her having anything in common with the X-Force team. Uncanny definitely seems the place for her... even though I would prefer her with X-Factor.

[Seikun21]

HAHA... can you imagine if there was an entire segment of <I>Divided We Stand</I> that only had panels of Martha sitting in the rubble, swearing her...well...brains off. I would totally read it and lose my sh*t.

I have to agree with Cessily possibly having a recurring role in Uncanny. Aside from her T-1000 blade arms, I can't really see her having anything in common with the X-Force team. Uncanny definitely seems the place for her... even though I would prefer her with X-Factor.

Martha is love. She needs to do more.

Cessily could still move to Detroit, it just seems unlikely at this point since SI and Manifest Destiny both have her in San Francisco. I think Julian might have a chance at X-Factor though. We haven't seen him in SF yet and he's pretty ticked at the X-men right now. Of course that might also mean he'll become a supervillain who needs to be taken down by X-Force.

[AN0LE]

Martha is love. She needs to do more.

Cessily could still move to Detroit, it just seems unlikely at this point since SI and Manifest Destiny both have her in San Francisco. I think Julian might have a chance at X-Factor though. We haven't seen him in SF yet and he's pretty ticked at the X-men right now. Of course that might also mean he'll become a supervillain who needs to be taken down by X-Force.

Agreed... I demand more Martha. Beast should build her a mechanical body or something.

Julian as a supervillain would definitely be interesting. Without a doubt, he has it in him. It definitely wouldn't be a big leap of faith to believe that he turned against the X-Men. I am hoping the subject of Selene/Wither is addressed first though. That's a storyline that still has me gripped even after all this time.

[Seikun21]

Agreed... I demand more Martha. Beast should build her a mechanical body or something.

Julian as a supervillain would definitely be interesting. Without a doubt, he has it in him. It definitely wouldn't be a big leap of faith to believe that he turned against the X-Men. I am hoping the subject of Selene/Wither is addressed first though. That's a storyline that still has me gripped even after all this time.

It's strange that Martha just floats around in that container when this is the Marvel universe and they could simply build her an android body. Of course that would take away her iconic look. I guess you could say that either they are still working on it or maybe they offered one to her and she declined.

[greenshoes713]

I miss Surge too. I hope she does show up in Young X-Men and is written the same as before.

I love her when she pisses off all the stupid boys.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5599/234348-8469-surge_super.jpg

I miss Skottie Young as well. :frown:

Why so she could be written horribly?

Has there really been a point to much of what has happened thus far in the book? :tongue:

LOL so true

[AN0LE]

It's strange that Martha just floats around in that container when this is the Marvel universe and they could simply build her an android body. Of course that would take away her iconic look. I guess you could say that either they are still working on it or maybe they offered one to her and she declined.

Giving her an android body would definitely open up some doors to develop her character a bit more but I must say that I love the fact that she is just a brain floating around in a jar... immobile. The fact that she is just a brain and could probably level the entire neighborhood with a single thought definitely adds to her appeal... for me anyway. I am sure most people find the concept of a disembodied brain kind of boring. To each their own, I suppose.

I would love to see like a supporting team for the YXM that would consist of the telepathic/precognitive students... Martha, The Stepford Cuckoos and Blindfold. Ernst could be their bodyguard (I believe her rumored power is super-strength).

[AN0LE]

Why so she could be written horribly?



LOL so true

Let's keep our fingers crossed that we are not let down horribly after tomorrow's issue. It's do or die time. Eh, who am I kidding? It's just die time.

[Seikun21]

Giving her an android body would definitely open up some doors to develop her character a bit more but I must say that I love the fact that she is just a brain floating around in a jar... immobile. The fact that she is just a brain and could probably level the entire neighborhood with a single thought definitely adds to her appeal... for me anyway. I am sure most people find the concept of a disembodied brain kind of boring. To each their own, I suppose.

I like her as a brain in a jar, it's just she can't really do much very often. It's sad.

[AN0LE]

I like her as a brain in a jar, it's just she can't really do much very often. It's sad.

Which is why we need Ernst back... no one else seems to want to be bothered with lugging her container around on missions and whatnot. But I agree, I like her better in the jar too.

[frog]

That story with Beast collecting her made me wonder about how Martha keeps herself entertained. It looked like she had been just been sitting inside that safe(?) for some time - is that where she usually stays? Is she content to just experience the outside world through her telepathy?

[$5 Milkshake]

Let's keep our fingers crossed that we are not let down horribly after tomorrow's issue. It's do or die time. Eh, who am I kidding? It's just die time.

Way to be positive!

[frog]

Way to be positive!
Well, we are pretty positive that someone is going to die, aren't we?

[AN0LE]

Way to be positive!

Haha I know. I'm sorry. The positive outlook that I have put into this book gave me anxiety. I will be getting my prescription filled before my lunch hour tomorrow so hopefully I will be able to enjoy issue #5 :biggrin:

[AN0LE]

Well, we are pretty positive that someone is going to die, aren't we?

My money is on Wolf Cub... especially after seeing the cover of issue #8 in November. A certain Logan-wannabe is absent.... however, Blindfold is too. I am just hoping it's not her that get's killed.

After looking at the death list in Messiah Complex and how it really wasn't as devastating as it could have been, the big death in YXM is probably the Hellfire Club waitress that Ink punched out in issue #4

[$5 Milkshake]

Well, we are pretty positive that someone is going to die, aren't we?

Unfortunately, yeah.

My poor Wolf Cub :frown:x7

[AN0LE]

That story with Beast collecting her made me wonder about how Martha keeps herself entertained. It looked like she had been just been sitting inside that safe(?) for some time - is that where she usually stays? Is she content to just experience the outside world through her telepathy?

Seriously.... they totally should have had a segment that had some of Martha's thought-bubbles so we could see just what she was thinking while sitting there all that time. "100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" was probably the highlight of her day.

[Seikun21]

Unfortunately, yeah.

My poor Wolf Cub :frown:x7

Bwahahaha. Finally after months we can soon be rid of him :evilsmile:

Seriously.... they totally should have had a segment that had some of Martha's thought-bubbles so we could see just what she was thinking while sitting there all that time. "100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" was probably the highlight of her day.

Oh Martha, you're so misunderstood and unloved.

[frog]

Poor Martha is probably entertaining herself by eavesdropping on everyone's love lives.

Much more of Emma and Cyclops and that's going to be one seriously warped little brain.

[AN0LE]

Bwahahaha. Finally after months we can soon be rid of him :evilsmile:



Oh Martha, you're so misunderstood and unloved.

HAHA! Martha could have her own Lifetime movie. Unloved Gray Matter: The Martha Johansson Story

[$5 Milkshake]

I feel bad for Wolf Cub, because he's been the figurehead for fan disappointment. I used to kind of agree with the conscensus that Cub had become kind of annoying and was being shown as a bit of a Wolverine rip off.

However, after going through and re-reading the series as a whole, I just dont feel that way. I actually really like what Guggenheim has done with Wolf Cub, and I think what he did is very much in tune with every (small) appearance Cub has had previously. In fact, I think he's the ONLY character that has been properly fleshed out in the series. Wolf Cub has always been a bit angry and unsure of himself, this series has shown that as well as shown him try and overcome that in his desire to belong somewhere and maybe even be an X-Man.