Detective Comics #847 "HEart of Hush pt. 2"

[Seraku]

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interesting way to start an issue :eek:

[hYPE]

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interesting way to start an issue :eek:

Indeed but we all know he didn't shoot Bruce. No way! I'm telling you, Hush would be a perfect villain for Bats in the next Bat flick!

[Superboy-Prime]

HIs motivation for getting back at Bruce is childish and stupid.

[The Cool Thatguy]

HIs motivation for getting back at Bruce is childish and stupid.

Very true, but Dini seems to be building/chaning that nicely.

[mr. december]

I think they're selling Batman's abilities a little short. I can't even remember the last time Batman felt the need to say "show yourself."

[The Cool Thatguy]

I think they're selling Batman's abilities a little short. I can't even remember the last time Batman felt the need to say "show yourself."

I'm pretty sure that was just Hush practicing his skills on a mental patient ;)

[AlistairCrane]

I loved the Selina/Zatanna interaction the best, especially the thing with the Queen of Hearts. :biggrin:

[drinkblatzbeer]

great overall issue...

also glad they are making scarecrow seem a little more aesthetically like the movie version...i think it makes the realism a bit creepier...

didn't think i would collect any other bat-book during RIP, but based on a local shop reccomendation did...and i am happy I did so...
this storyline has been solid thusfar...

[Alexx1]

I loved the Selina/Zatanna interaction the best, especially the thing with the Queen of Hearts. :biggrin:

Yeah that was pretty cool! Great interaction!! I hope DC's planning on going somewhere with it (and it doesn't have to be in the very near future but eventually) as oppose to teasing folks.

I'm assuming this story in Dect takes place after the events in Catwoman?

I really enjoyed the Bruce Wayne and Tommy Elliot flashbacks! Anyway this was an impressive issue.

[bert]

Yeah that was pretty cool! Great interaction!! I hope DC's planning on going somewhere with it (and it doesn't have to be in the very near future but eventually) as oppose to teasing folks.

I'm assuming this story in Dect takes place after the events in Catwoman?

I really enjoyed the Bruce Wayne and Tommy Elliot flashbacks! Anyway this was an impressive issue.

we've already got Harly N Ivy in the DCU, so why NOT Cat n Zat ?

I'd buy it

[AlistairCrane]

Yeah that was pretty cool! Great interaction!! I hope DC's planning on going somewhere with it (and it doesn't have to be in the very near future but eventually) as oppose to teasing folks.

I'm assuming this story in Dect takes place after the events in Catwoman?

I really enjoyed the Bruce Wayne and Tommy Elliot flashbacks! Anyway this was an impressive issue.

This likely takes place after Catwoman's final issue, but Dini may not have known that. Either way, it fits here.

[Chachi]

Enjoying this arc so far - wasnt a big fan of Nguyens art, but this was one of his best issues.

[Vidocq]

Great storyline and Nyugen did a great Job for this issue. Does anyone else has the impression that this originally had nothing to do do with RIP and that they just added some dialogue to market it as a tie in? Anyway the fact that Dini seems to go his way and not do something that would directly tie with RIP is fine by me, since I really don't care all that much for RIP.

[Choppa]

Great storyline and Nyugen did a great Job for this issue. Does anyone else has the impression that this originally had nothing to do do with RIP and that they just added some dialogue to market it as a tie in? Anyway the fact that Dini seems to go his way and not do something that would directly tie with RIP is fine by me, since I really don't care all that much for RIP.

Yes I feel the same way.

Does anyone else feel like Dini is really stretching the original story in order to make up his past for Tommy?

For instance, in "HUSH," he was called that because he had silenced all of Batman's rogues from revealing him to Batman. But here it's implied that his mother would always tell him to "hush."

[Dark Master]

I agree, I like the fact that we are getting more on the character, Who wants to lay odds that his mother is the one who scarred him under those bandages?

And he would make an excellent villian for the next Batman movie.

[Seraku]

Yes I feel the same way.

Does anyone else feel like Dini is really stretching the original story in order to make up his past for Tommy?

For instance, in "HUSH," he was called that because he had silenced all of Batman's rogues from revealing him to Batman. But here it's implied that his mother would always tell him to "hush."

he was named Hush because Scarecrow kept singing that lullaby

[AlistairCrane]

You know, he could be Hush both because his mother said that AND because of the lullaby. There's no definitive reason why he should be named Hush anyway. Works for me.

[jeangreydp]

I loved the Selina/Zatanna interaction the best, especially the thing with the Queen of Hearts. :biggrin:

I second that!

It is a shame her book was cancelled, but I can live with it if we get moments like these each month in Detective.

i feel like Hush's motive is a bit of a stretch, but I always keep in mind that he is literally crazy, so who knows what drives an insane man to do things?!

I am really enjoying this story arc either way and Nyugen's art is rocking my world.

[AlistairCrane]

I second that!

It is a shame her book was cancelled, but I can live with it if we get moments like these each month in Detective.

i feel like Hush's motive is a bit of a stretch, but I always keep in mind that he is literally crazy, so who knows what drives an insane man to do things?!

I am really enjoying this story arc either way and Nyugen's art is rocking my world.

He's clearly insane, but these flashbacks go to show that Tommy never grew up. He's still the psychotic kid he was at 10, and I think that makes him a more interesting, well-rounded villain than who we first saw in the original Hush arc.

[Choppa]

he was named Hush because Scarecrow kept singing that lullaby

What story are you referring to?

[Chachi]

I agree, I like the fact that we are getting more on the character, Who wants to lay odds that his mother is the one who scarred him under those bandages?

And he would make an excellent villian for the next Batman movie.

1. No in the original story, Tommys face wasnt scared.

2. I agree if done right he would be an awesome villian in the next movie.

[frostedone]

Dini is adding so much to Hush's back story, and it is working. I loved the Zatanna/Catwoman interaction too.

[Vintage Crime]

I like Hush's methods. It is nice seeing a villain employ strategy and quoting Aristotle. The back story has been a nice touch. This second issue answered some questions I had been wondering. Last issue it didn't make much sense to me for Elliot to start a hospital with Zombie's but after this issue it made sense.

I wonder what the surprise shock ending will be next issue? I hope that Selina isn't working with Hush. I'm still hoping that Bruce decides to settle down with Selina. Although I'm not sure what role Bruce will play in the comics post RIP.

As for Hush's motives I wasn't expecting much. There is so much hate out there for Hush as a villain that I figured any explanation for motive would be ridiculed online no matter what. His conspiracy theory of Bruce working with his mother does seem stupid at first, but I then realized that he was a child at the time. Whatever, I'll suspend my disbelief in order to enjoy a story.

[Seraku]

What story are you referring to?

original Hush story, Riddler said they name stuck after Scarecrow kept singing the lullaby

[Red_Knight]

Loving "HoH" so far. It's really adding a lot to the character.

Still, am I the only one who feels that there are too many coincidences in Tommy's backstory? First he tries to kill his parents, only for his best friend's parents to suffer that exact fate a few months later. Then, his best friend becomes a masked vigilante, which Tommy accidentally finds out thanks to a patient who just happens to be one of Batman's enemies. So far, so good. It could happen, I guess.

Now, we are told that the shrink who Tommy talked to as a kid just happened to be the same guy who would go on to become Scarecrow? :confused:

I'm not really complaining. It's an intriguing development, actually, but it does seem kind of farfetched, IMO. Who knows, though. Maybe it'll turn out that the Riddler was really just the tip of the iceberg, and that all of Batman's villains in some way helped make Hush. That would be cool in a way, I guess.

[Captain Jim]

This likely takes place after Catwoman's final issue, but Dini may not have known that. Either way, it fits here.

I've recently changed my mind on this. I think the Detective stories fall best after Catwoman #80, but before 81 (there seems to be a big time gap between these two issues).

Batman's conversation with Selina in Tec 845 appears to me to be their first interaction since her return from the prison planet. And it's looking to me like what's happening with them in these issues predates their falling out in Catwoman #81.

Of course, later events might preclude this interpretation, in which case we may have to throw up our hands and say the writers didn't coordinate their stories.

[AlistairCrane]

I've recently changed my mind on this. I think the Detective stories fall best after Catwoman #80, but before 81 (there seems to be a big time gap between these two issues).

Batman's conversation with Selina in Tec 845 appears to me to be their first interaction since her return from the prison planet. And it's looking to me like what's happening with them in these issues predates their falling out in Catwoman #81.

Of course, later events might preclude this interpretation, in which case we may have to throw up our hands and say the writers didn't coordinate their stories.

Nah. If anything, in Tec, it seems like Selina regrets the decision she is likely to make in Catwoman #82 and has returned to try to make things work with Bruce once and for all. Tec #845 definitely came after Catwoman #80, but it's seeming like Tec #846 and so on take place after Catwoman #82. After all, DC wouldn't allow a relative noob like Will Pfeifer to blow the ending to Dini's Tec story.

[Choppa]

original Hush story, Riddler said they name stuck after Scarecrow kept singing the lullaby

I gotta read it again. IIRC Loeb said that himself.

[AlistairCrane]

Dini is fleshing out the Hush character in such a way that I can go back, read the original "Hush" story, and appreciate it a lot more. The Tommy Elliot/Hush reveal was so anticlimactic, cliched, and forced that it tainted the otherwise enjoyable experience I had reading the story. Dini's come with a sweet remedy to save the day.

[nepenthes]

I love Selina and Zatanna playing back alley cards and talking so honestly about Bruce. The issues the last couple of months have been really standout even for Dini, I think he's hit new stride in this run, two years in ha ha

I agree with Red Knight the origin does seems little overcooked. but generally Dini's done a good job at salvaging a bunky characer so that's great

I can't wait to see what role the Robins play in RIP. Batman has every reason to be paranoid

[JCAll]

"It's not like you to be paranoid." That's the single most unintentionally funny line I've seen in a Batman comic since "The Joker's killing people for Christ's sake!"

[Seraku]

it just occured to me: since when has Dick had a Nightwingmobile?

[pariah-1972]

Pretty good issue altogether i love the flashbacks revealing Hush's true nature.

Still not crazy about the art but it does work well enough.

[Harding Prime]

The issue has three phases, Great, Good & Aweful.

What was great was the more and more adaptation of Hush, it is great canon they are working in for Bruce as a boy before his parents died and how to answer the questions of those say, how did the ten year old Hush pull off the murder of his father. The good, the story in the now, not great, but it is moving along and should come together in the end, I have faith in Dini. The Awful, the art, MY GOD! When they came back from the flashback, I thought I was looking at 8-bit version of Nightwing. And I am still not convinced that the robin they are portraying is not Damien, because Tim is not half the size of Batman and Nightwing...It's ridiculously bad.