Sentry: The Most Poorly Written Character of All Time?

[DDPCherry]

Very interesting read:

http://old-wizard.com/?p=953

[Cayman]

Very interesting read:

http://old-wizard.com/?p=953

Not interesting at all, but instead really stupid.

[Michael P]

Oh, heavens no. I've come across far worse.

[DDPCherry]

The article makes a good point...the Sentry is constantly built up to be a deciding factor, and then brushed aside when he actually joins the fray.

[Cayman]

The article makes a good point...the Sentry is constantly built up to be a deciding factor, and then brushed aside when he actually joins the fray.

The average Rumbles post is more thoughtful and profound. The entry doesn't even factor in the Sentry's various psychological problems or The Void.

[DDPCherry]

i think if ur looking for thoughtful and profound u might try some reading some hegel instead of comic books. lighten up.

[B. Kuwanger]

[guy whining for a few paragraphs about WWH]

Oh, alright, man.

[Beast]

Not interesting at all, but instead really stupid.
Indeed.

Apperantly the person who wrote the article understand hyperbole, given the title of their lame essay.But yet they don't understand that the "million exploding suns" is also hyperbole. He accuses Marvel characters of talking out of their asses, but in the end it's him doing the Jim Carrey impression.

[Will.S]

Oh, c'mon there are far worse examples than the Sentry.

[StoneGold]

i think if ur looking for thoughtful and profound u might try some reading some hegel instead of comic books. lighten up.

Or, you could try not posting something randomly offensive, then getting all pissy when people get offended.


Around these parts, we have a tendency to call that trolling.

[DDPCherry]

Or, you could try not posting something randomly offensive, then getting all pissy when people get offended.


Around these parts, we have a tendency to call that trolling.

how was that offensive? and how am i pissy?

if that article offended you then i feel sorry for you as a person.

i think the article brought up a good point. the sentry IS constantly built up throughout every series, and then fails to deliver the goods. this isnt a knock on the hero, but the writers. again, unless u wrote the comic, i dont see how you can get offended by it.

[gorthon616]

how was that offensive? and how am i pissy?

if that article offended you then i feel sorry for you as a person.

i think the article brought up a good point. the sentry IS constantly built up throughout every series, and then fails to deliver the goods. this isnt a knock on the hero, but the writers. again, unless u wrote the comic, i dont see how you can get offended by it.

I think he was talking about your comment:


i think if ur looking for thoughtful and profound u might try some reading some hegel instead of comic books. lighten up.

which seems like (at least possibly, it's not a fairly strong implication in any case) a implication that comic fans are looking at comic books as a means of intellectual enlightment when instead they should be reading hegel or some similar piece of intellectualism, and thus are either not smart or have narrow intellectual horizons.

[StoneGold]

how was that offensive? and how am i pissy?

if that article offended you then i feel sorry for you as a person.


Yeah, you're not being offensive in the slightest. Why would I think that of you?


OK, I'm done feeding the troll.

[DDPCherry]

I think he was talking about your comment:



which seems like (at least possibly, it's not a fairly strong implication in any case) a implication that comic fans are looking at comic books as a means of intellectual enlightment when instead they should be reading hegel or some similar piece of intellectualism, and thus are either not smart or have narrow intellectual horizons.

i love comic books, otherwise i wouldnt be here. my point is, i dont read them, or commentary about them, in order to read anything "profound". so saying that the article wasn't profound wasnt really a big concern to me.

[Beast]

how was that offensive? and how am i pissy?

if that article offended you then i feel sorry for you as a person.

i think the article brought up a good point. the sentry IS constantly built up throughout every series, and then fails to deliver the goods. this isnt a knock on the hero, but the writers. again, unless u wrote the comic, i dont see how you can get offended by it.
Just admit it... it's your article, isn't it. That's why you registered and are defending it so passionately.

[Shellhead]

I can't stand Sentry. But that article failed to persuade me that Sentry was the most poorly written character of all time.

[Alex Smith]

The average Rumbles post is more thoughtful and profound. The entry doesn't even factor in the Sentry's various psychological problems or The Void.

Haha, the article wasn't that bad.

The Sentry isn't necessarily poorly written, but he is written very inconsistently, which is probably because he's a fairly new character yet. No writer has really nailed the "definitive" Sentry. Give it some time and he'll surely find his stride, and place in the MU.

[Jadeskies]

I have said for a long time that the Sentry is a worthwhile character but Marvel is not executing him properly. It seems that in every comic he has a different set of psychological problems (Agoraphobia? Multiple Personalities? Self destructive tendencies? Issues determining what is real and what isnt? Daddy issues? Choose one please!) and refusing to use the powerhouse character when its his turn in the story to get used.

Another of his problems is that the only releationships that he has is with his wife and other superheroes and you have a rather one sided character. He just sits there and stares off into space until a fight erupts. He needs his own supportive cast. Superman has an extensive suportive cast and thats what makes his comic interesting, we all know he is going to shrug off Luthors missile but the fact luthor has Jimmy Olsen strapped to the missile makes it more important and dangerous.

What the sentry needs is to set down some roots and befriend some normal humans.

He also needs to in a story that doesnt involve plot twists so they can explain not using the Sentry.

So I would say that the Sentry is not only worst written but also the worst executed character, lots of potential but only lots of disapointment seen.

[Frank]

I have said for a long time that the Sentry is a worthwhile character but Marvel is not executing him properly. It seems that in every comic he has a different set of psychological problems (Agoraphobia? Multiple Personalities? Self destructive tendencies? Issues determining what is real and what isnt? Daddy issues? Choose one please!) and refusing to use the powerhouse character when its his turn in the story to get used.

Another of his problems is that the only releationships that he has is with his wife and other superheroes and you have a rather one sided character. He just sits there and stares off into space until a fight erupts. He needs his own supportive cast. Superman has an extensive suportive cast and thats what makes his comic interesting, we all know he is going to shrug off Luthors missile but the fact luthor has Jimmy Olsen strapped to the missile makes it more important and dangerous.

What the sentry needs is to set down some roots and befriend some normal humans.

He also needs to in a story that doesnt involve plot twists so they can explain not using the Sentry.

So I would say that the Sentry is not only worst written but also the worst executed character, lots of potential but only lots of disapointment seen.


That sums up BMB's recent tenure writing super-heroes. He was the one that brought Sentry from the excellent Jenkins/Jae Lee mini-series.

[DDPCherry]

I have said for a long time that the Sentry is a worthwhile character but Marvel is not executing him properly. It seems that in every comic he has a different set of psychological problems (Agoraphobia? Multiple Personalities? Self destructive tendencies? Issues determining what is real and what isnt? Daddy issues? Choose one please!) and refusing to use the powerhouse character when its his turn in the story to get used.

Another of his problems is that the only releationships that he has is with his wife and other superheroes and you have a rather one sided character. He just sits there and stares off into space until a fight erupts. He needs his own supportive cast. Superman has an extensive suportive cast and thats what makes his comic interesting, we all know he is going to shrug off Luthors missile but the fact luthor has Jimmy Olsen strapped to the missile makes it more important and dangerous.

What the sentry needs is to set down some roots and befriend some normal humans.

He also needs to in a story that doesnt involve plot twists so they can explain not using the Sentry.

So I would say that the Sentry is not only worst written but also the worst executed character, lots of potential but only lots of disapointment seen.

good point.

[humpa]

I personally like the sentry, character and personality-wise. The only problem I have with him really is his origins.

[DDPCherry]

I personally like the sentry, character and personality-wise. The only problem I have with him really is his origins.

what don't you like about his origins?

[Kutulu]

Very interesting read:

http://old-wizard.com/?p=953

This article is utter garbage.

[humpa]

what don't you like about his origins?

well he just drank super-serum similiar to captain, except that it was 1000 times stronger. and his powers is that of a million exploding suns. would've made more sense if he got his powers..like i dont know...from a million exploding suns

[DDPCherry]

well he just drank super-serum similiar to captain, except that it was 1000 times stronger. and his powers is that of a million exploding suns. would've made more sense if he got his powers..like i dont know...from a million exploding suns

Yeah that's a good point too. Never really thought about that. Either way, he IS a poorly written character.

[Kutulu]

Yeah that's a good point too. Never really thought about that. Either way, he IS a poorly written character.

The idea behind him is fine, it's just that he should be in outer space having cosmic battles - on Earth it's hard to write him; with his power set he could have soloed the Skrulls, soloed Civil War, and answered many other issues where the writer had to write him out of the battle with something cheesy.

[gorthon616]

The idea behind him is fine, it's just that he should be in outer space having cosmic battles - on Earth it's hard to write him; with his power set he could have soloed the Skrulls, soloed Civil War, and answered many other issues where the writer had to write him out of the battle with something cheesy.

In space, he's redundant (power-level wise) and irrelevant (I don't really see the point of his character if we are removing him from a normal society).

He's a fine idea, it's just that he's written by Bendis who can't write anybody beyond Daredevil or Luke Cage or Spider-Man or similar characters of that vein.

[Chiasm]

The most poorly written character is Wolverine and there is no comparison.

For every good example of writing for him (early Claremont) there are countless examples of bad writing from writers who insert him for the sales bump.

[Frank]

I'd have to agree. The last time I saw Wolvie well written was when Larry Hama was on the book. I don't know what it was but Hama was the only guy outside of Claremont that understood the character, writing him as a man of honour with an undying spirit.

[gorthon616]

I'd have to agree. The last time I saw Wolvie well written was when Larry Hama was on the book. I don't know what it was but Hama was the only guy outside of Claremont that understood the character, writing him as a man of honour with an undying spirit.

I think it was because Hama was a military man who served in the army (I believe) so he infused that sort of mentality into the character. Most modern writers are cut from a different background and their mentality simply doesn't work with him. And, to my mind in a bit of sneering elitism, reduce the character to something utterly uninteresting and generic and a dime-a-dozen.

[Dr. Banner]

The problem isn't that the Sentry is poorly written, it's that the character was never strong enough to maintain on series of ongoing appearences. He either becomes a plot device or as completely useless. They should've left well enough alone after that first maxi series.

That and his costume is more than a little fruity.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

This article comes across as very little more than an aggrevated fan, without much actual opinion to fill the space they've clear set aside to write for their article. It sounds very naive and it isn't terribly well-written, either.

Granted I agree that most of what Bendis has written of The Sentry sucks a fair bit, but there are plenty better examples than those. I'd also say though that Sentry isn't a fundamentally BAD character at heart. The original mini-series (Jenkis/Lee) was actually pretty good. I liked it a lot. I also love the concept of this missing history. But I just think it's been forced across too much by Bendis. You can't force folks to like the guy.

[Schmakt]

The article itself wasn't that great, but I thought it made a good point...
I hate it when the Sentry shows up. It's always like the writers just have to deal with him (i.e. get him out of the way) before they can get on with the real story.

There's this deus ex machina out there that, seemingly, could solve just about anything and no one really wants their story to end with The Sentry popping up and saving the day.

It's never fun when he shows up. Lots of build-up and little to no payoff.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I hate it when the Sentry shows up. It's always like the writers just have to deal with him (i.e. get him out of the way) before they can get on with the real story.

There's this deus ex machina out there that, seemingly, could solve just about anything and no one really wants their story to end with The Sentry popping up and saving the day.

It's never fun when he shows up. Lots of build-up and little to no payoff.

Which is why I still believe he aught to be this reclusive character he was created as. Not a forefront character, so much. And not this crazy child-like Fabbio-modelled himbo that he's been turned into.

The original Sentry mini created a character who WAS important to the MU, who had huge connections to the so many people, but had to lock himself away for his own protection. Having him as an everyday hero, with such incrdible naiveity and no memory, but seemgly limitless power is just dull 90% the time.

[Animalia]

I never really cared for the Sentry. He never stood out to me....pretty boring character.

[ZeoVGM]

I'd have to agree. The last time I saw Wolvie well written was when Larry Hama was on the book. I don't know what it was but Hama was the only guy outside of Claremont that understood the character, writing him as a man of honour with an undying spirit.

So you didn't read the recent Aaron storyline that followed Messiah CompleX?

[Britannic]

If you think the Sentry is badly written then you haven't read Hulk lately and Loebs delightful Rulk take on the character. Sheer unadultarated garbage.

[TheComet]

I'll agree with the article that the Sentry is poorly written, but for different reasons. The Sentry is essentially Superman in the Marvel universe when it comes to his power levels and that's a major problem right off the bat. The Marvel U. isn't set up to handle a Superman level character in a non-cosmic setting. The only thing anyone can think to do with him is neutralize him using his "kryptonite" of mental instability. The result is Sentry has spent his entire comic book career curled up in a ball crying. It doesn't make for good reading.

DC has two ways of handling Superman in it's Justice League books. The first is to neutralize him at the start with either kryptonite or magic. The other is to give him some huge threat that only he can handle like the moon being knocked out of orbit. Both options get rid of him very early so that the rest of the JLA can be focused on for the rest of the story. What Marvel has done with the Sentry is only use the first option while neglecting the second.

Personally, I hate the Sentry and wish he would throw himself into the sun and be done with it. My opinion aside if Marvel wants to actually use the Sentry they should look at other ways of neutralizing him in their stories than the mental illness angle. More big threats and less crying would go a long way.

[zeromage]

The article itself wasn't that great, but I thought it made a good point...
I hate it when the Sentry shows up. It's always like the writers just have to deal with him (i.e. get him out of the way) before they can get on with the real story.

There's this deus ex machina out there that, seemingly, could solve just about anything and no one really wants their story to end with The Sentry popping up and saving the day.

It's never fun when he shows up. Lots of build-up and little to no payoff.

That hit the nail on the head. That's pretty much what the article says too though. That they just build up the Sentry with pages upon pages of convincing him to intervene and then he doesn't even do anything.

like you say, build up and then let down.

[StoneGold]

well he just drank super-serum similiar to captain, except that it was 1000 times stronger. and his powers is that of a million exploding suns. would've made more sense if he got his powers..like i dont know...from a million exploding suns

I'm still willing to bet that most of the second mini was a psychotic delusion. And not just because most of the mini was specifically stated to be a psychotic delusion.

[DDPCherry]

I'll agree with the article that the Sentry is poorly written, but for different reasons. The Sentry is essentially Superman in the Marvel universe when it comes to his power levels and that's a major problem right off the bat. The Marvel U. isn't set up to handle a Superman level character in a non-cosmic setting. The only thing anyone can think to do with him is neutralize him using his "kryptonite" of mental instability. The result is Sentry has spent his entire comic book career curled up in a ball crying. It doesn't make for good reading.

DC has two ways of handling Superman in it's Justice League books. The first is to neutralize him at the start with either kryptonite or magic. The other is to give him some huge threat that only he can handle like the moon being knocked out of orbit. Both options get rid of him very early so that the rest of the JLA can be focused on for the rest of the story. What Marvel has done with the Sentry is only use the first option while neglecting the second.

Personally, I hate the Sentry and wish he would throw himself into the sun and be done with it. My opinion aside if Marvel wants to actually use the Sentry they should look at other ways of neutralizing him in their stories than the mental illness angle. More big threats and less crying would go a long way.

you are right, and that is also kind of what the article says. To quote it:

"In the end, the side that the Sentry was on was losing the physical battle against a team whose heavy hitters were - I kid you not - Captain America, Spiderman and Hercules. Captain America eventually surrendered, not because he was physically beaten, but because he saw the damage that the conflict had caused."

in theory the sentry should have been able to handle Captain America's ENTIRE team without even breaking a sweat. yet at the end, Spiderman claims their side was winning. the writers have no clue how to handle a superhero like the sentry.

the point about kryptonite is good too.

[Kutulu]

If you think the Sentry is badly written then you haven't read Hulk lately and Loebs delightful Rulk take on the character. Sheer unadultarated garbage.

Nice way to troll the thread with your Loeb bashing. Keep it to the Hulk forum.

[flapjaxx]

It's somewhat interesting that the distinction is made about whether a character himself is bad, or whether it's simply the way he's written that's so poor. Last week I reread Alan Moore's Supreme run. He made Supreme a fantastic character (yes, even as distinct from the Superman story-molds). I don't think I ever read a Supreme story NOT written by Moore, but I would think that it'd be like night and day. Maybe a few years from now the right writer will come along to make the Sentry more interesting.


So you didn't read the recent Aaron storyline that followed Messiah CompleX?

That was okay, but if Jason Aaron's name wasn't on it I doubt half as many people would have said they liked it half as much. I liked how Morrison used Wolverine in the team book, but as far as Wolverine solo-stories go, I think the list is Claremont, Hama, Windsor-Smith, and then there's a huge drop-off.


Nice way to troll the thread with your Loeb bashing. Keep it to the Hulk forum.

This thread is about a character who's supposedly the "most poorly written", and he named a character whom he thought was being written worse. Not exactly "Loeb-bashing" because he didn't harp on the writer. So if you were me I guess you'd say, "Nice way to troll the thread by arguing just for the sake of arguing."

[siberia77]

The Sentry is just godawful and seemingly pointless. I have rarely seen such a poor costume (it looks like an 8 year old drew it) and his whole storyline seems largely stolen from DC's Triumph character. The only interesting aspect (void) just hasn't been used at all.:evilangry:

[DDPCherry]

The Sentry is just godawful and seemingly pointless. I have rarely seen such a poor costume (it looks like an 8 year old drew it) and his whole storyline seems largely stolen from DC's Triumph character. The only interesting aspect (void) just hasn't been used at all.:evilangry:

he has huge potential for some interesting stories, sadly i doubt we'll ever see one.

[humpa]

but has anyone read silent war? Sentry was really well written in that one.

[Shadd]

but has anyone read silent war? Sentry was really well written in that one.

Ya, besides being an awesome mini series all of its own, that has also been my favorite portrayal of Sentry. It appears the Inhumans are going to be showing up as Sentry supporting characters, which is a good thing because he desperately needs some.

[Captain Smith]

The take away point (besides bad writing) is the one made several times of the disconnect between power level hyperbole and actual action of the power charged individual.

Power of millions of suns, able to destroy galaxies - etc. - are such titanic levels of power - if one actually understands the size of such constructs - that punching it out with the Hulk is ridiculous.

Google the latest Hubble images of galaxies colliding and then you realize that the Sentry or Odin or Odin level Thor would never have to engage in punch outs - except for comic panel mayhem.

DC does a touch better on keeping this rhetoric under control.

[The Batman]

The Sentry isn't the most poorly written character of all time by virture of those two Jenkins books which were actually quite enjoyable. The most poorly written character of all time wouldn't even have that.

[Guest_1001]

Power of millions of suns, able to destroy galaxies - etc.

But again, these are just taglines. If Sentry actually had the power of a million exploding suns, he wouldn't run off the second someone says "Void" in the middle of a fight. Sentry's first mini in particular showed this well; if he had the power of a million exploding suns, he wouldn't get defeated by The General.

I know this is an example of bad writing on Bendis' part and I love Sentry. But this is where comic book fans get weird; Sentry has been beaten up more times since his creation than, say, Spider-Man and yet they still complain about him being too powerful. And yet, despite Spider-Man turning up in Secret Invasion: Frontline, Avengers: The Initiative and every other book out there at some point, you never hear fans saying that Spidey is "crammed down readers' throats", nor that he's being portrayed as all-powerful.

I know I've gone off-topic a bit there. I read that blog by the way, OP. Three minutes of my life wasted. :rolleyes:


I'll agree with the article that the Sentry is poorly written, but for different reasons. The Sentry is essentially Superman in the Marvel universe when it comes to his power levels and that's a major problem right off the bat. The Marvel U. isn't set up to handle a Superman level character in a non-cosmic setting. The only thing anyone can think to do with him is neutralize him using his "kryptonite" of mental instability. The result is Sentry has spent his entire comic book career curled up in a ball crying. It doesn't make for good reading.

It seems like you've only read Bendisentry.

[DDPCherry]

The take away point (besides bad writing) is the one made several times of the disconnect between power level hyperbole and actual action of the power charged individual.

Power of millions of suns, able to destroy galaxies - etc. - are such titanic levels of power - if one actually understands the size of such constructs - that punching it out with the Hulk is ridiculous.

Google the latest Hubble images of galaxies colliding and then you realize that the Sentry or Odin or Odin level Thor would never have to engage in punch outs - except for comic panel mayhem.

DC does a touch better on keeping this rhetoric under control.

agreed.

i think they should lose that line.

[Guest_1001]

Oh please . . . Marvel should get rid of a tagline because fans misinterpret it? Do you think there was this much fuss when Amazing Spider-Man came up with "never has anyone fought such merciless foes as the Enforcers"? Should Stan Lee eternally be kicking himself for introducing Wonder Man as "the newest, most dynamic surprise character from the world-famous house of ideas"?

Some of you might answer "yes" to both of those questions. If so, it proves my point; taglines give no indication of the characters themselves. Also, I'm willing to bet the people whining about that line have never read the first miniseries: Bob Reynolds uses it to describe the feeling he gets when he drinks the super serum again for the first time:

"It comes over you in a rush -- warm, wonderful ... an unutterable force. Like a million little exploding suns, it feels so good".

However, the phrase "with the power of a million exploding suns" was used on the front of the fake comic within the comic. Then again, to dust off an old jab, what makes the X-Men so "uncanny"?

[DDPCherry]

Oh please . . . Marvel should get rid of a tagline because fans misinterpret it? Do you think there was this much fuss when Amazing Spider-Man came up with "never has anyone fought such merciless foes as the Enforcers"? Should Stan Lee eternally be kicking himself for introducing Wonder Man as "the newest, most dynamic surprise character from the world-famous house of ideas"?

Some of you might answer "yes" to both of those questions. If so, it proves my point; taglines give no indication of the characters themselves. Also, I'm willing to bet the people whining about that line have never read the first miniseries: Bob Reynolds uses it to describe the feeling he gets when he drinks the super serum again for the first time:

"It comes over you in a rush -- warm, wonderful ... an unutterable force. Like a million little exploding suns, it feels so good".

However, the phrase "with the power of a million exploding suns" was used on the front of the fake comic within the comic. Then again, to dust off an old jab, what makes the X-Men so "uncanny"?

superman IS more powerful than a locomotive, and faster than a speeding bullet. the sentry isnt even more powerful than ONE exploding sun, nevermind a million. if he was, when he unleashed ALL of his energy like he did in WWH then the earth would have been destroyed...instead a handful of building were destroyed. weak.

then again, the tag line does FIT the sentry. he is all hype and then ultimately a let down. like the article said, WWH and civil war built the guy up to epic proportions and then of course he was a huge let down. unable to get either job done. at least when supes is built up as the one person who can save everyone he delivers.

[Lord S]

Not a huge fan of Sentry, but I sure don't consider him to be the most poorly written character of all time...certainly not as poorly written as that article.

I understood from the get-go that the 'power of a million exploding suns' bit was merely a figurative statement. It holds about as much credibility as Apocalypse and his power to 'grant himself any power he chooses'.

[Dr.J.]

I dont mind if well researched. a new story set in the early days of the marvel universe,but, I do wish that the sentry hadnt had been slide into the marvel u from the beginning. Hes just not in the same class of their 1960s characters,or creaters.He needs to be greatly de powered,or killed off.Thor filled the role of marvels superman,and filled it well. The sentry is no thor.Just a one diminsional character.

[Guest_1001]

superman IS more powerful than a locomotive, and faster than a speeding bullet.

And I mentioned Superman . . . where?


the sentry isnt even more powerful than ONE exploding sun, nevermind a million. if he was, when he unleashed ALL of his energy like he did in WWH then the earth would have been destroyed...instead a handful of building were destroyed. weak.

Two points:
1) You clearly didn't read my post and therefore missed the context of the "million exploding suns" line.
2) In which case, you've just proven my point; fanboys like yourself (who make threads linking to badly-written blogs that they probably wrote) misunderstand the tagline.

I'm pretty much through listening to the whinings of fanboys who claim Sentry is overpowered while his powers have never even been stated in a book.

[zeromage]

And I mentioned Superman . . . where?



Two points:
1) You clearly didn't read my post and therefore missed the context of the "million exploding suns" line.
2) In which case, you've just proven my point; fanboys like yourself (who make threads linking to badly-written blogs that they probably wrote) misunderstand the tagline.

I'm pretty much through listening to the whinings of fanboys who claim Sentry is overpowered while his powers have never even been stated in a book.


i dont believe they ever said YOU SAID anything about superman. you seem like you're the fanboy.

and how have his powers never been stated? have u ever READ a comic book? talk about ignorant.

[Lord S]

i dont believe they ever said YOU SAID anything about superman. you seem like you're the fanboy.

and how have his powers never been stated? have u ever READ a comic book? talk about ignorant. Now now, no need to be rude!

I recall one instance of his powers being referred to as 'a million exploding suns', which was at the end of WWH when he went all-out against the Hulk. It sounded to me like a tongue-in-cheek remark. But his power has never demonstrated on-panel as being such.

[Guest_1001]

i dont believe they ever said YOU SAID anything about superman. you seem like you're the fanboy.

and how have his powers never been stated? have u ever READ a comic book? talk about ignorant.

Lol, you say I seem like a fanboy then follow up with "have u ever READ a comic book?" :rolleyes: What's that saying about a pot and kettle?

[Expletive Deleted]

Talk about comics, not each other.

Thanks.

[pharoahe22]

The article itself wasn't that great, but I thought it made a good point...
I hate it when the Sentry shows up. It's always like the writers just have to deal with him (i.e. get him out of the way) before they can get on with the real story.

There's this deus ex machina out there that, seemingly, could solve just about anything and no one really wants their story to end with The Sentry popping up and saving the day.

It's never fun when he shows up. Lots of build-up and little to no payoff.

I totally agree when you said that there's a lot of build-up and no pay-off. I like the Sentry a lot...but he's never utilized correctly. He SHOULD have completely dismantled the Hulk, or at least won a long, drawn out battle, as much as they hyped his appearance up. And as far as Civil War goes, there are people powerful enough to give him a decent run for his money...Marvel just got lazy with that aspect as far as I'm concerned(don't get me wrong, I was a big fan of Civil War). They could've had Captain Marvel switch sides because of his distaste for what was happening, and that fight would've been awesome. They also could've brought Thor back earlier (he would've found out about the Clor thing earlier, and it would've enraged him). Thor vs. The Sentry would've driven fans nuts! My point is, if they can find stuff for Superman to do in the DC Universe while on Earth, there's plenty that they could have the Sentry doing. When you have a super powerful hero, that means that you have to make the villain/s that much tougher. Like If the Skrulls were smart, they would've put together a super-skrull team specifically to take down the Sentry. An Inhumans Skrull, An Avengers Skrull, and the original Super-Skrull on a Sentry Strikeforce team would've definetly been up to the challenge. If you want him out of the story so that it can progress, give him an actual challenge, or else he starts to look useless.

Also, neither Sentry nor Wolverine is the most poorly written character of all time. There are plenty on writers who have done decent Wolverine stories, there's just a large amount who have done poor ones as well. For instance, Jason Aaron writes Wolverine really well, and Millar's current "Old Man Logan" arc is good as well. Guggenheim's Civil War arc of Wolverine was also good, and Way and Loeb have done poor jobs (Way has had a couple of decent issues on Wolverine, but overall, it hasn't been good.)

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For instance, Jason Aaron writes Wolverine really well, and Millar's current "Old Man Logan" arc is good as well. Guggenheim's Civil War arc of Wolverine was also good, and Way and Loeb have done poor jobs (Way has had a couple of decent issues on Wolverine, but overall, it hasn't been good.) I've found that pretty much anything Jason Aaron writes is good though.

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I am not a Sentry fan. Actually I like him as much as I like DC's Doomsday wjhich i think is just a cheap Hulk.

My opinion.

Sentry is just a poorly concieved character. I have no issues with a character of his ilk - but the writing inconsistencies and lack of payoff have always been a letdown. I personally dislike the connection between him and Void. Just seems too Jeckll and Hyde for my taste and we have that already with Banner and the Hulk.

The cheap panels of him tossing Terrax and smashing Attuma - rather weak effort in a vein attempt to build up his worth. (and Terrax was so miscast, his dialogue so completely out of character - sometimes writers need to do research when they use someone)

If Marvel was smart (and they've proven this is not necessarily a given), they would go back to the original limited series and attempt to revamp the character - power him down a bit. Also, Hulkamaniac made some great points about a supporting cast.

Jenkins had some good elements in the limited series - Marvel just never utlizied them