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Ciro
08-01-2008, 08:17 PM
The story from Superman/Batman #50 should not have been done, and I hope it's ruled out of continuity.

So now, Clark and Bruce backgrounds are all tangled up and connected, it's a bad gimmick.

Like that story "When Clark Met Bruce" by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale that appears in Superman/Batman: Secret Files & Origins 2003 and at the beginning of the Public Enemies trade, where Clark and Bruce almost met each other when they were 10 and where 20 feet away from each other.

And coincidentally now Clark's biological father met Bruce's father also.

So no their past is full of coincidences that connects them right?? well it's too many damn coincidences, the first one I was cool with but now this!!! wich is one of the main reason why I come now to expose my displeasure.

And now it turns out they're also almost like brothers due to their fathers meeting, and the other nonsense of the Wayne's fortune coming to be due to kryptonian technology.

This is ridiculois and contradicts established continuity, the Wayne fortune had been inherited through varoius generations, Thomas Wayne was already rich way before Martha got pregnant with Bruce.

And Bruce and Clark don't need to be established as "being like brothers" with all that senseless background, because ONE of the most important aspects of their current relationship is that they are close and developed a friendship DESPITE their backgrounds having absolutely nothing in common and them being so different therefore this made up background story being pointless and contradictory of what the relationship of these characters has been established to be

THIS TYPE of gimmicky writing is done for the sake of creating fan hype over sensationalist writing and for the mere purpose of scratching for whatever extra sales these writers can make for this title they're writing so they don't get kicked out and replaced, and does not service storytelling or faithfullnes to the true essence of the characters at all.

Vidocq
08-01-2008, 08:35 PM
Superman/Batman is Rarely in Continuity since Loeb left, That's why people buy it. when they don't feel like reading Morrison's Acid rides, there is Superman Batman. Besides The Story seem like an homage to those endless Silver Age Stories tieing Bats and Supes, atleast that's how it felt from were I am standing.

David Walton
08-01-2008, 09:30 PM
Ciro, I hope this doesn't mean you won't be sticking around for the big reveal in issue #75 where Krypto crash lands at the circus where the Flying Graysons worked the night before their deaths, leading him to become a superpet to atone for the guilt incurred by his failure to take down Zucco because of a sudden engagment with a fire hydrant.

amazingfanboy
08-01-2008, 09:41 PM
I actually liked this idea, more so the way the diary entries of the two fathers and the thoughts of Superman and Batman coincided. Whether or not they include this in continuity, I doubt it would have any major effect. But this is coming from a guy whose favorite Batbook is All-Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder, which has nothing to do with continuity.

mofo
08-02-2008, 07:23 AM
i havent read the issue yet but i already disagree with it....not for the reasons mentioned above (although they were VERY good ones) but because thomas wayne seems to be a centerpoint of the RIP story

focking hell this SB series SUCKS

IvCNuB4
08-02-2008, 09:29 AM
The story from Superman/Batman #50 should not have been done, and I hope it's ruled out of continuity.

So now, Clark and Bruce backgrounds are all tangled up and connected, it's a bad gimmick. .

Sounds more like something you'd see on "Smallville" :biggrin:

carabas
08-02-2008, 11:07 AM
The entire Superman/Batman ongoing shouldn't have been done and I hope it gets retconned out.

And maybe we then ge could a better resolution of the President Lex storyline and a better Supergirl at some point...

Slade Wilson
08-02-2008, 05:29 PM
I don't think contuinuty counts for much in this title (or many titles these days), the last arc was all about cleaning the world of Kryptonite -- does anyone actually think this will mean Kyryptonite will be impossible to come by, in other titles?

I took this issue as an Elseworlds tale & I liked it. But, if this really is in contuinuty, then Ciro is right -- it's too much coincidence, & it contradicts a lot of established things, especially the way the Wayne family fortune was made.

Slade Wilson
08-02-2008, 05:30 PM
Sorry to double-post, but can anyone give a concrete answer to if this story is in continuity?

Captain Jim
08-03-2008, 01:52 PM
Well, at a recent con I think they said something to the effect that S/B kind of goes its own direction and isn't that connected to the other titles. But rarely will you ever hear anything pronounced officially out of continuity.

earl
08-03-2008, 02:05 PM
It is a goofy flop of an issue by modern standards. It would have worked better if done with artwork as pastiche of Curt Swan and 50s Batman vs. green aliens artwork with it really played it up a camp issue, as maybe something like how the flashbacks were done in Alan Moore's Supreme stories. As is, it was a flimsy idea that when executed just didn't work at all.

By comparison, I think that two or three page story by Loeb and Sale was done pretty well. It wasn't meant to be something more than it was and what was there was executed well. I actually thought that story was kind of neat.