Wildcats #1: Does my Reactor Core look Critical to You? [Archive]

JessieMidnight

07-30-2008, 08:34 PM

I couldn't get this today, hopefully soon. I've been waiting for it since it was announced though. How was it? Could you give a complete review of it?

I read something on another board about Tao being in the Lynch back-up story, what happened with that? Does he have some new powers or something now? What about the Cats, how are they handling this new change?

Well it sounds like this was a great first issue, and I'd like spoilers from it. I can't wait to get into World's End!

Robo Ape

07-31-2008, 03:23 AM

How comes this has appeared before the other inter-related storyline has finished?

Chris Striker

07-31-2008, 10:33 AM

How was it? Could you give a complete review of it?

I read something on another board about Tao being in the Lynch back-up story, what happened with that? Does he have some new powers or something now? What about the Cats, how are they handling this new change?

I really dug the 1st issue of the Wildcats Worlds End, Gage gives a quick rundown about what happened to the world for those who didn’t pick up the Armageddon/Revelations/Number of the Beast. Gage tries to give a sense of the world post-Armageddon with a band of human survivors being preyed upon by 5 SPB cannibals. Gage also give a nod to Wilcats 3.0 at the Halo Corp and how they are the only place with power and we’re brought up to speed about the other characters and new make-up of the Wildcats team. Googe really takes his art up a level with this title

The Lynch back-up story does features Tao by name only

How comes this has appeared before the other inter-related storyline has finished?

Which storylines are you talking about?

Robo Ape

07-31-2008, 11:53 AM

Which storylines are you talking about?

Number Of The Beast, I haven't seen the final copy of this?

DaveEB

07-31-2008, 12:00 PM

Number Of The Beast, I haven't seen the final copy of this?

It's out. Your store may not have gotten it, but it's out.

Chris Striker

07-31-2008, 12:08 PM

Number Of The Beast, I haven't seen the final copy of this?

Issue #8 come out on July 23rd

Khellendros

07-31-2008, 02:59 PM

A couple of things:

-Googe's art makes my eyes want to vomit. He's got Nemesis and Backlash looking like middle-aged dudes with tits at some points. Why does it seem like comic companies don't understand that, in a form of media in which pictures are a huge part of the experience, picking an artist who can draw more than one set of facial features might be important?

-Jackass-villain Majestic disgusts me. Majestic is evil... why, again? What, because of the trauma of seeing a bunch of humans die? REALLY? The guy survived a war that spanned millenia and who-knows-how-many worlds with his personality intact and THIS is what causes him to snap? Give me a break. Also the fact that he apparently felt he needed a giant sword to take on a rinky-dink team like the Wildcats seems wrong. The guy can rearrange the solar system if he feels it's necessary, and he needs a sword to take out Team Street-level (plus Maul)?

-Cranky emo Hadrian also disgusts me. I can see a robot reverting to an earlier personality after a global EMP, but he was never a snippy little bitch. So what the hell?

This is all just very sad to me. I LOVED Wildstorm. I also LOVED most anything Gage put his pen to. Seriously, if he was credited as writer, that guaranteed I'd be at least picking up the first two issues. But, between a really subpar eight issues full of characters who I didn't care about and who mostly died off anyways in Number of the Beast, New Dynamix and its thirty different retcons and that travesty called Dreamwars they're letting Giffen commit, it's like Wildstorm is TRYING to drive off old school fans.

And, I know someone is going to come in and try to tell me to just hold on, that this is all (well, except for that abomination of Giffen's) still building to something great, but damnit I'm not made of money, and I really feel like the cash spent on Number of the Beast and New Dynamix was a waste.

capricorn116

07-31-2008, 04:47 PM

It disappoints me to say it, but Khellendros (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/member.php?u=9708) is right. This issue was not a good relaunch to the franchise. I'm a huge original Wildcats fan. The 4 issue mini with it's twisted timeline storytelling and Jim Lee artwork was awesome. Somehow we got from that to this issue.

Post apocolyptic world; sweet. Show it to me. I needed more than two pages to see how bad off the world really was. Look at the End League to see how it should be done.

Where's the intro to the main cast? Grifter -- deadly killer with latent super-powers, Zealot -- immortal assassin, etc. A mix of a world overview plus a character overview would have taken up space, but would have set the groundwork for the series.

The limited interaction we saw was good. Grifter's comment to Nemesis says it all, "Y'know we used to have this fun, flirty thing going on what ever happened to that?" What ever happened to that? Bring it back.

Majestic. Yuck. What happened? He doesn't need weapons and the warrior-king costume was strange. Googe's artwork on Majestic was great. What happened here? It hardly seemed like the same artist.

As good as the back-up story was (it was good), give me a full comic of the main story and skip the back-up. Put the back-ups in a "Marvel Presents" style book for characters that can't carry a series. I thought Lynch was dead or that he was replaced by a Worldstorm clone.

I'll give it 4 issues for nostalgia, but I'm looking for more.

BigBoss

07-31-2008, 10:10 PM

I hope it aint too bad, I orderd issue 1 of this over moon knight 20.

STC

08-01-2008, 12:52 AM

-Jackass-villain Majestic disgusts me. Majestic is evil... why, again? What, because of the trauma of seeing a bunch of humans die? REALLY? The guy survived a war that spanned millenia and who-knows-how-many worlds with his personality intact and THIS is what causes him to snap? Give me a break. Also the fact that he apparently felt he needed a giant sword to take on a rinky-dink team like the Wildcats seems wrong. The guy can rearrange the solar system if he feels it's necessary, and he needs a sword to take out Team Street-level (plus Maul)?

I'm a HUGE Majestic fan (I even liked Jim Lee "All Star" Majestic...What happened to that one btw??)

Anyways this Majestic pissed me off. Like this guy said, why does he have a huge sword for? Majestic can take out the Cats like theyre nothing, I hope the writer of this book have some explaination on why Majestic didnt take everyone out when he invaded Halo in Armageddon, and now in WildCats #1. And pls make it a good explaination.

Robo Ape

08-01-2008, 07:11 AM

It's out. Your store may not have gotten it, but it's out.

Thanks will look into it.

Khellendros

08-01-2008, 08:08 AM

I'm a HUGE Majestic fan (I even liked Jim Lee "All Star" Majestic...What happened to that one btw??)

Anyways this Majestic pissed me off. Like this guy said, why does he have a huge sword for? Majestic can take out the Cats like theyre nothing, I hope the writer of this book have some explaination on why Majestic didnt take everyone out when he invaded Halo in Armageddon, and now in WildCats #1. And pls make it a good explaination.I like the sword. The sword makes sense. Guy's a warrior, and we've seen he had his own personal armory back in Mount Rushmore. It's just that whipping it out for such a minor threat just seemed silly.

Chris Striker

08-01-2008, 09:07 AM

I'm a HUGE Majestic fan (I even liked Jim Lee "All Star" Majestic...What happened to that one btw??)

Anyways this Majestic pissed me off. Like this guy said, why does he have a huge sword for? Majestic can take out the Cats like theyre nothing, I hope the writer of this book have some explaination on why Majestic didnt take everyone out when he invaded Halo in Armageddon, and now in WildCats #1. And pls make it a good explaination.

This isn't the 1st time he's carried a sword, it also looked like it's not just a sword...it looked like it morphed into a morning star. Maj probably doesnt want to kill his old friends unless he has to

christosgage

08-01-2008, 11:49 AM

I'm a HUGE Majestic fan (I even liked Jim Lee "All Star" Majestic...What happened to that one btw??)

Anyways this Majestic pissed me off. Like this guy said, why does he have a huge sword for? Majestic can take out the Cats like theyre nothing, I hope the writer of this book have some explaination on why Majestic didnt take everyone out when he invaded Halo in Armageddon, and now in WildCats #1. And pls make it a good explaination.

The circumstances behind Maj's attitude adjustment will be revealed over time. Whether it's a good explanation or not is up to you, but know that I have read nearly all (I think all, but I'm allowing for mistakes) of his appearances.

Thanks for picking up the book!

CNG

Teh m0nk3y

08-01-2008, 11:52 AM

I heart Maxine! <3<3<3
It's been a while since I saw the character in action with her somewhat hilarious attitude. Been a bit disappointed that Jack Marlowe has gone back to his Spartan/Hadrian roots, though he has his reasons. The self doubting has me intrigued.

Also, the return of Lynch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3
The guy was my favorite manipulative bastard. I kept scratching my head since he was mostly ignored during the most of Wildstorm's relaunch period. Not only is he back, but he was still the man in charge when the world went to hell. Looks like I have to pick up Authority just to see his part in this new world.

echopryme

08-01-2008, 05:43 PM

I'm a HUGE Majestic fan (I even liked Jim Lee "All Star" Majestic...What happened to that one btw??)

Anyways this Majestic pissed me off. Like this guy said, why does he have a huge sword for? Majestic can take out the Cats like theyre nothing, I hope the writer of this book have some explaination on why Majestic didnt take everyone out when he invaded Halo in Armageddon, and now in WildCats #1. And pls make it a good explaination.

Um... he's not trying to kill them. He's just raiding them for supplies. Hell, he even tried to get Nemmy to run off with him to New Khera.

The Sword is probably just ceremonial, since he's in full Kheran Warlord regalia, which makes sense since he's TRYING TO RE_CREATE AND RULE KHERA.

I love how everyone thinks this is so outlandish. makes sense to me.

STC

08-02-2008, 03:49 PM

The circumstances behind Maj's attitude adjustment will be revealed over time. Whether it's a good explanation or not is up to you, but know that I have read nearly all (I think all, but I'm allowing for mistakes) of his appearances.

Thanks for picking up the book!

CNG
Sweet, straight from the writer's mouth. I cant wait for next months!

Scavenger

08-04-2008, 01:56 AM

The circumstances behind Maj's attitude adjustment will be revealed over time. Whether it's a good explanation or not is up to you, but know that I have read nearly all (I think all, but I'm allowing for mistakes) of his appearances.

I'm gonna call BS on this.

Number of the Beast ends with the comment they need to find Majestic and keep him sane. Well, they failed.

Which has been the theme of the Wildstorm line for sometime. Throughout the past year, in Armageddon and Revelations and NOB, It's all been how these people can't do anything. They knew it was coming, and they failed.

So, when's the next Wildstorm reboot?

Khellendros

08-04-2008, 10:28 AM

I'm gonna call BS on this.

Number of the Beast ends with the comment they need to find Majestic and keep him sane. Well, they failed.

Which has been the theme of the Wildstorm line for sometime. Throughout the past year, in Armageddon and Revelations and NOB, It's all been how these people can't do anything. They knew it was coming, and they failed.

So, when's the next Wildstorm reboot?
Bite your tongue(or, well, fingers). Screw the reboots, this storyline has a ton of potential. In spite of not liking this first issue, I'm still cautiously optimistic. There are some damn fine writers working on these books.

Chris Striker

08-04-2008, 11:31 AM

Which has been the theme of the Wildstorm line for sometime. Throughout the past year, in Armageddon and Revelations and NOB, It's all been how these people can't do anything. They knew it was coming, and they failed.

Yea they knew it was coming, but they didnt know when or exactly how, they all got bits of info and becuase there's a "bit" distrust between the Super-team I imagine there was no sharing of into.

The Cool Thatguy

08-04-2008, 11:45 AM

Yea they knew it was coming, but they didnt know when or exactly how, they all got bits of info and becuase there's a "bit" distrust between the Super-team I imagine there was no sharing of into.

What bugs me as is all the one shots act like what happened was a great mystery to everyone. But in 'Number of the Beast' the Wildcats knew about the Reapers, as did Stormwatch and The Authority. Yet when members traveled back in time, there was never a single hint about them. Battlion seemed to be at a loss as to who caused the disaster, the Authority apparently forgot to tell Midnighter that a High clone was what caused the Carrier crash and the Wildcats never bothered to give Nemesis the coordinates of the Reaper base (which woulda be far more useful than just a teleport code and safeword).

So did the heroes fail despite the warnings, or did they change things in small ways?

anthony devlin

08-04-2008, 04:11 PM

What bugs me as is all the one shots act like what happened was a great mystery to everyone. But the Wildcats knew about the Reapers, as did Stormwatch and The Authority. Yet when members traveled back in time, there was never a single hint about them. Battlion seemed to be at a loss as to who caused the disaster, the Authority apparently forgot to tell Midnighter that a High clone was what caused the Carrier crash and the Wildcats never bothered to give Nemesis the coordinates of the Reaper base (which woulda be far more useful than just a teleport code and safeword).

very good point. they must have known, so why on earth did none of them actually bother to warn the time travelers of what actually caused it. instead they all acted like they didnt know, when clearly they all knew what caused it.

Khellendros

08-05-2008, 02:34 PM

Oh, snap! Turns out, everyone on Wildstorm Earth BUT Majestic is a bad guy! OMG spoiler alert!

echopryme

08-05-2008, 04:16 PM

Oh, snap! Turns out, everyone on Wildstorm Earth BUT Majestic is a bad guy! OMG spoiler alert!

I mean, what do you think Maj did when he first came to Earth thousands of years ago?!?!

He mated with the populace, created colonies, raided the local area for supplies and provisions, and re-built a civilization that was defendable so that he could use it to protect his assets and defeat his enemies.

Why is any of his current behavior such a shock to people? He's NOT a human. He's a full-blooded Kheran Warlord. He doesn't hang around us out of the goodness of his heart. He hangs around us because we help him kill Daemonites.

He's NOT Superman, people.

Libaax

08-05-2008, 04:40 PM

The preview looked promising. The writing was fun. Specially Griftier and Maxine.

I sure hope they didnt drop Halo corporate angle. That made vol 3 awesome.

Im alittle behind,couple weeks behind you in releases. So i will get this when it gets over here.

Speaking about Number of the beast, i tried to read it but whats up with the characters that dont seem the be in Wildstorm U even. I was expecting to see Authority,Wildcats characters.

Is it about at first character from different U or other WU comic i havent read ?

The Cool Thatguy

08-05-2008, 07:18 PM

I mean, what do you think Maj did when he first came to Earth thousands of years ago?!?!

He mated with the populace, created colonies, raided the local area for supplies and provisions, and re-built a civilization that was defendable so that he could use it to protect his assets and defeat his enemies.

Why is any of his current behavior such a shock to people? He's NOT a human. He's a full-blooded Kheran Warlord. He doesn't hang around us out of the goodness of his heart. He hangs around us because we help him kill Daemonites.

He's NOT Superman, people.

Mated with the locals? You sure about that? I remember in Alan Moore's run, it was stated that Maj. was chaste his entire time on earth.

DaveEB

08-05-2008, 07:31 PM

Speaking about Number of the beast, i tried to read it but whats up with the characters that dont seem the be in Wildstorm U even. I was expecting to see Authority,Wildcats characters.

Is it about at first character from different U or other WU comic i havent read ?

They're characters who've been trapped in stasis since WWII. There will be known Wildstorm characters in the later issues.

Also this is the first time these characters have appeared.

Libaax

08-06-2008, 03:17 AM

Well my confusion is perfectly understandable then.

I was thinking like who the heck are they and have i missed them and should i know who they are to understand the event.

Khellendros

08-06-2008, 09:22 AM

I mean, what do you think Maj did when he first came to Earth thousands of years ago?!?!

He mated with the populace, created colonies, raided the local area for supplies and provisions, and re-built a civilization that was defendable so that he could use it to protect his assets and defeat his enemies.

Why is any of his current behavior such a shock to people? He's NOT a human. He's a full-blooded Kheran Warlord. He doesn't hang around us out of the goodness of his heart. He hangs around us because we help him kill Daemonites.

He's NOT Superman, people.
...Okay, when was that shown? Because, like Thatguy, I remember the only lady he did the deed with on Earth being Nemesis.

DaveEB

08-06-2008, 10:10 AM

The whole "Majestic being chaste his entire time on Earth" deal has been kind of muddied a little...I can think of one circumstance where it can be argued that he might've had relations with a human. There was that old Choi story (post Alan Moore) in WildCATs where Majestic is fighting lions in a gladiator ring and he's all over this defenseless Catholic human...or maybe they're all over each other.

Point being: Maybe Majestic isn't as truthful in some regards as a Superman would be. Maybe Majestic has been mostly celibate throughout his time on Earth, but either way he's a bigot for not admitting to and being totally against "mixed breeding" with the human race.

Majestic at his core is ROYALTY and that influences the character a lot. He might've slept with "the help" but he's sure as hell not going to admit it to a fellow royal.

I think this new direction for Majestic is a little strange(feels strange at least) but I think when we get to the motivations behind it, it might get interesting.

BigBoss

08-06-2008, 04:31 PM

I must say christos writing did not convince me that I was reading a post apocalyptic tale, instead I thought everything is gonna be ok, and grifter and the others all sounded cliched generic action movie stars. I was dissapointed iam dropping this book.

MartinRedmond

08-06-2008, 06:17 PM

Come on guys! Having the once boy scout turn COMPLETELY EVIL!!! Is cliche #1 and this is writen by Clichestopher Cage.

I hope the writer of this book have some explaination on why Majestic didnt take everyone out when he invaded Halo in Armageddon, and now in WildCats #1. And pls make it a good explaination.

That's because the villain has "plans" for them! (cliche#2)

Khellendros

08-06-2008, 10:44 PM

HaroldAllnut

08-07-2008, 01:36 AM

Just throwing my hat into the ring. Googe was good; Gage was meh. I don't think it's entirely him, though. It's more of what he has to work with. I've never been a huge WildCATS fan, but I was interested in checking it out. I did, and wasn't impressed.

Is this a mini, or an ongoing?

Chemical King

08-07-2008, 04:21 AM

grifter78

08-07-2008, 06:52 AM

I preordered Wildcats and Authority #1... should I get Revelations and Number of the Beast first, or just jump on?

I read Armageddon, and got the feeling there wasn't really all that much happening in that book...

You can jump in now with Wildcats #1 and The Authority #1 and basically get that the world is destroyed and the heroes are doing their best to try and salvage what they can.
But I can't promise you won't be tempted to back track and see how it happened. :wink:

grifter78

08-07-2008, 06:59 AM

Look, we know Wildstorm has a bad reputation for lateness and these constant reboots. But we're hoping that they got it right this time. They went as far as to get each creative team to finish 5 issues of each series before the #1's were even solicited.
There's a lot of bad history Wildstorm has to shake but I think this is a step in the right direction.
I've described them in another post as "orphans" whose "dad", Jim Lee, doesn't seem to want them anymore so there's other "parents" ,in the new creative teams, who want to adopt them and actually do something good with them.
We knew bringing them back to the shelves wasn't going to be easy but I think this is the most solid and honest attempt out of all of them.

Robo Ape

08-10-2008, 02:29 PM

grifter78

08-10-2008, 08:59 PM

I am not all that familiar with the Wildcats background & characters so I found this issue a bit confusing to say the least. Some intros would have been nice.

I have got Number Of The Beast & Revelations & I am still none the wiser on a lot of character aspects. How are they going to get new readers if they make no effort to reach out to them?

Because the powers that be have dropped the ball in the past, some of these characters have not had a chance to be fleshed out as much as they could have been in recent years (especially some of the newer ones). We expect to see more about them as they deal with the world in its present state.

So far, the Wildcats seem to be like the people who were "prepared for the storm" but their supplies won't last forever. The Authority was hit much harder and they have really set them up for some interesting character moments because of the desperate situation they now find themselves in. I anticipate with the Wildcats their "comfortable position" won't last forever.