View Full Version : Which series have you enjoyed the most post-Infinite Crisis?
NeoStar9X
07-29-2008, 02:52 PM
Just wonder which series others have enjoyed the most post-Infinite Crisis. I started out with Justice Society of America with it's final arc before the reboot but after the crossover with the JLA after the first arc I kinda lost interest. Especially with the roster getting so big. I was thinking of continuing but not sure yet.
The biggest let down for me had to be Hawkgirl. I had just gotten into Hawkman right before IC and while I didn't get the whole arc I did like what I did read. Then Hawkgirl launched with Hawkman no where to be seen. The art was horrible and then they paired Hawkgirl up with Red Arrow. So all around a disappointment. I didn't even stick with the first arc after the title change. Wasn't really that interested in DC outside of that and only not getting back into the world as I'm not going to bother touching Marvel with a ten foot poll due to the nature of the events. I wouldn't even know where to start since I didn't even finish Civil War.
So which titles have you enjoyed? Which ones have you dropped or felt cheated by? Etc?
Shellhead
07-29-2008, 03:06 PM
Immediately after IC, I was very pleasantly surprised by Teen Titans. Within a matter of months, it suddenly turned very crappy, right in the middle of the Titans East storyline. I dropped it like a hot potato and haven't looked back.
Conversely, I was bored out of my mind with the final six-issue arc in JSA after IC. But once they re-booted with JSofA #1, it's been a decent series again.
The consistently good post-IC comics have been the ones outside standard continuity: Jonah Hex and All-Star Superman.
ruppan
07-29-2008, 03:22 PM
My favorite books post-IC have been all the Peter Tomasi and Geoff Johns books - Black Adam, GL, GLC, Adventures of Superman, JSA and Requiem. Also, Brave & the Bold when Perez was still on art and AS Superman. An honorable mentions goes to Shooter's LSH.
I've been most disappointed with Wonder Woman immediately following IC, but it has gotten better lately. Teen Titans has had its moments, but it's too inconsistent in quality from month to month. I would also be willing to throw Final Crisis, Trinity and Robinson's Superman into the most disappointing mix (mostly b/c of my high expectations), but all of these series are in the early stages and could turn great soon.
brundlefly
07-29-2008, 03:27 PM
So which titles have you enjoyed? Which ones have you dropped or felt cheated by? Etc?
Checkmate was my favorite post-IC book, hands down. Greg Rucka was the perfect writer for that book and it featured some of my favorite supporting cast types (Mr. Terrific, Sasha Bordeaux, Count Vertigo, Amanda Waller and the Suicide Squad, etc.). A great, intelligent mix of political/espionage thriller and superhero comics. I'm still bummed that it's gone.
The Batman books improved hugely in quality post-IC, dumping the nightmarish duo of Judd Winick and AJ Lieberman and letting James Robinson bring back the likes of Gordon, Bullock, and Two-Face in his Face the Face arc. Then he handed the reins to Grant Morrison and Paul Dini, who've both been doing excellent work with Batman and Detective, too.
Gail Simone's All-New Atom was a thoroughly entertaining 'fun superhero' book, with great art from John Byrne, a rich supporting cast, and a breakout new hero in Ryan Choi. Again, like Checkmate, a shame that it's gone now, too.
Post-IC, I also really liked 52, All-Star Superman, JSA, and the Tales of the Unexpected mini (although more for Brian Azzarello's Dr. Thirteen backup story than the main story about the Spectre).
As for disappointments, I'd go with JLA. JLA's relaunch was hyped to the moon, but both Metzler's run and McDuffie's current one didn't really do anything for me and I finally dropped it several issues ago. Ditto the non-All-Star Superman books, which felt like they were regressing to the Silver Age far too much (or trying to be too much like the Donner films). Only Gary Frank's artwork and the return of Brainiac have me finally checking them out again.
G. Wayne
07-29-2008, 03:54 PM
Barring a few scattered issues, Green Lantern Corps has been pretty solid, and shifted my opinion of Guy Gardner from a joke character to one of my favorites.
JSA is consistently pretty good too. I liked Black Adam: The Dark Age but I am a bit biased to liking the character.
JLA's been all kinds of Meh, and I'm apparently one of the handful of people on this board that like Ed Benes' stuff. I haven't checked the names to see who's responsible, but they really should go back to the significantly less heavy handed inking that Benes was paired up with on his prior Superman run.
52 Aftermath: the Four Horsemen had some nice character moments, but largely came off as a Why Bother? mini-series. I'm sure I got other sub-par minis, but that's the most glaring example that comes to mind.
Supergirl was on a downward spiral for a while, but it took that incomprehensible silent space chase sequence around the Sinestro War for me to finally jump ship.
carabas
07-29-2008, 04:37 PM
JSA's been very good, not counting The Lightning Saga debacle.
Green Lantern's been better than ever.
Birds Of Prey was excellent, while Gail was still on it anyway. She probably handled the year jump better than any other book.
Checkmate was my favourite though. Real shame it's gone. I wonder what happened that made Rucka quit the book in a hurry like that.
cpahl2000
07-29-2008, 04:43 PM
Black Adam, Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps, Superman, Action Comics, Booster Gold, Metal Men, Infinite Inc even with the cancellation Brave and the Bold,Wonder Girl, Dc has improved a lot and the stories are more vivid and full of action .
titanfan
07-29-2008, 04:44 PM
Checkmate and JSA by far.
Teen Titans made the best use of the "One Year Later" concept initially, but the book actually started to flounder once Johns left.
Booster Gold has been awesome as well, although that's more "Post-52" than Post-Infinite Crisis.
Libaax
07-29-2008, 05:38 PM
I have enjoyed Jonah Hex most. Its always good, it comes out on time,great artist. Best western i have read in the medium by far.
I respect the writer dou alot and Jordi Bernet is a genius and a new fav i enjoy. I hope he does much more quality work like Hex.
Superhero wise the best Manhunter,Batman Detective and Blue Beetle.
Biggest letdown GMs Batman. I have never stopped reading Batman main before his run. Hype machine that didnt become anything but a lame event....
So Jonah Hex,Manhunter,Tec,Blue Beetle are what i always read and enjoy.
I would be giving other DCU superhero comics a chance but i stopped caring cause of the events. I did enjoy Black Adam/Captain Marvel,Marvel family part of DCU with 52 but Trials of Shazam killed off my interest.....
Dropped Batman,Robin. Beechen.......
LordEd1976
07-29-2008, 07:49 PM
of the on-going stuff, Justice League of America & Justice Society of America
I also enjoyed 52. I've read various issues of Green Lantern before giving in and buying volume 1 of Sinestro Corps Wars. My budget is taking a beating at the monet but i do plan on getting volume 2 and I'm curious about Blackest Night.
Babylon23
07-29-2008, 09:11 PM
Green Lantern has gone from strength to strength since IC, culminating in Sinestro corps War.
JSA is probably my favourite series at the moment, and has been since the relaunch.
Blue Beetle and Checkmate are a couple of favourites, although Checkmate is already gone. Same with Atom.
Teen Titans made the best use of the OYL jump, plus it reintroduced the Doom Patrol, which is always a bonus. I haven't read the book since Johns left, though.
Manhunter was a favourite even before IC and has continued to be so since.
I think Superman and Action were both good reads. I didn't get on board until a few issues after 1 year later, then back tracked, so I did not have to deal with the delays as much (except on the annual).
Other than the Ressurrection of Ra's Al Ghul storyline, Batman and Detective have both been very consistent. I didn't like that one text issue that Morrison did with the Joker either, but the rest has been good to very interesting.
jackdaw53
07-30-2008, 04:47 AM
Such is my detailed grasp of dcology that I'm not sure when Infinite Crisis happened. So I'll just run through last few DC series I bought as they came out (usually stick to back issues):-
Hard Time. This was a super hero in jail series written by Steve Gerber. Good stuff. The last issue was "50 Years Later" (round about time DC was doing "1 year later") and resolved all outstanding issues. Typical fun and thoughtful issue by Steve Gerber. Cancelled, but warmly recommended to anybody who reads back issues.
Solo. Each issue was done completely by a single artist (either writing stories themselves or getting a friend to). Featured different stories, with only rule being that one story had to feature a DC character. This was a wonderful series. Cancelled, but...
Hawkgirl. I started reading this because Walter Simonson was the writer. I figure any writer who could make me laugh out loud at Thor comics by fun such as Thor taking out space ships by running them down in a wooden cart towed by two goats had to be worth following. I actually liked this comic a lot but guess it built up the characters too slowly for many fans. (And the artwork was panned... deep down I think because many people didn't like the way Hawkgirl was drawn. I guess in a comic called Hawkgirl that is important... but I wasn't expecting any particular look, and thought the artwork was excellent.) Cancelled. but...
That takes me down to the two "survivors":-
Manhunter
Jonah Hex
Two darn good series... but i will say no more, lest I jinx them.
Libaax
07-30-2008, 09:57 AM
Such is my detailed grasp of dcology that I'm not sure when Infinite Crisis happened. So I'll just run through last few DC series I bought as they came out (usually stick to back issues):-
Hard Time. This was a super hero in jail series written by Steve Gerber. Good stuff. The last issue was "50 Years Later" (round about time DC was doing "1 year later") and resolved all outstanding issues. Typical fun and thoughtful issue by Steve Gerber. Cancelled, but warmly recommended to anybody who reads back issues.
Solo. Each issue was done completely by a single artist (either writing stories themselves or getting a friend to). Featured different stories, with only rule being that one story had to feature a DC character. This was a wonderful series. Cancelled, but...
Hawkgirl. I started reading this because Walter Simonson was the writer. I figure any writer who could make me laugh out loud at Thor comics by fun such as Thor taking out space ships by running them down in a wooden cart towed by two goats had to be worth following. I actually liked this comic a lot but guess it built up the characters too slowly for many fans. (And the artwork was panned... deep down I think because many people didn't like the way Hawkgirl was drawn. I guess in a comic called Hawkgirl that is important... but I wasn't expecting any particular look, and thought the artwork was excellent.) Cancelled. but...
That takes me down to the two "survivors":-
Manhunter
Jonah Hex
Two darn good series... but i will say no more, lest I jinx them.
I cant remember if Hard Time was before or after IC but i remember i enjoyed it.
I wish it was much longer. It was so interesting, the comic version of Oz.
jackdaw53
07-31-2008, 01:40 AM
Libaax. Yes, I really enjoyed Hard Time. At time I made original posting I'd forgotten that it started as part of the Focus imprint venture. Think there was 4 Focus titles (I read Hard Time and Kinetic) but Hard Time was the only one to survive for long.... becoming a DC mainstream title when the others were cancelled. I suspect it was around then that I began to harbor the dark suspicion that even excellent comics don't survive long if they feature new characters.
rwe1138
07-31-2008, 12:11 PM
Manhunter & Blue Beetle.
jerrymcl89
07-31-2008, 12:21 PM
I think Blue Beetle is the book I've most consistently enjoyed, although Green Lantern is very close.
Matt K
07-31-2008, 12:37 PM
Blue Beetle is also the book I have consitantly enjoyed since IC.
I actually started picking up DC books after IC and my list was Checkmate, BB and Aquaman. Aquaman went downhill the quickest (once Busiek left). Checkmate was a great read but I dropped it as soon as Rucka left.
Since then I have picked up LOSH but I don't count it since I got the back issue to the start of the volume (pre IC) which I had been reading in the library. That said, it also has been a consistantly enteraining book, although Blue Beetle just edges it out for top position.
Hawkman
07-31-2008, 01:17 PM
Most Enjoyed: Justice Society of America. Still not as good as JSA was (barring its final arc), but still a consistently solid read each month with tons of character focus and just enough action to keep to me satisfied.
Most Disappointed By: Hawkgirl, no contest. I continued to buy this title out of my fanboyish loyalty to the characters and in hopes that it would hang on long enough to return to glory. If not for that, I probably would've dropped it three issues in. It took a huge nosedive in terms of quality when compared to the greatness of Hawkman.
I can't blame Simmonson for the unnecessary shake-up, as he's actually said that he thought he was going to be writing Hawkman and Hawkgirl when he got the job, but the characterization of Kendra and her supporting cast was still a far cry from what had been established in the title up to that point. He even screwed up a couple of names and made a minor plot point out of Hawkgirl's secret identity, when she didn't actually have a secret identity. I'm not blaming solely Simmonson for these gaffs, though. These are continuity errors that should have easily been caught by the book's editor yet weren't, a problem that seems common among several DC books since OYL.
And Chaykin's art didn't help matters, either. It's not bad, but it simply doesn't work for a title of this nature, in my opinion. I would have much preferred Simmonson had penciled it as well, though I doubt that would've saved the book from cancellation, anyway.
Superheroic
07-31-2008, 01:19 PM
No contest: Green Lantern. The Sinestro Corps War rocked. It showed us what a terrific crossover could be! Plus the art was amazing. Ivan Reis is a tremendous talent.
Will.S
07-31-2008, 01:24 PM
Blue Beetle is also the book I have consitantly enjoyed since IC.
I actually started picking up DC books after IC and my list was Checkmate, BB and Aquaman. Aquaman went downhill the quickest (once Busiek left). Checkmate was a great read but I dropped it as soon as Rucka left.
Same here with those titles.
It's a shame Kurt Busiek left the Aquaman book, he's about the only writer who could have convincingly pulled that book off. Kurt's Superman was very good when Carlos drew it or when he had a couple of fun fill in issues but it was really inconsistent, Action was usually where the bulk of my like for the Superman books went to so that was consistently amazing barring the Countdown tie in issues.
The Green Lantern books during OYL weren't really setting my world on fire but it got much better along the way since it kept building on everything that came before it. 52 was great, it was the best weekly I've ever read and probably will be for quite some time.
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