Advance X-Men Solicitations for October, 2008

[andy khouri]

Marvel has provided CBR with advance looks at new comics shipping in October from the publisher's X-Men line, including "Manifest Destiny" #2, "Astonishing X- Men: Ghost Box" #1, "World's Apart" #1 and more.

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17314

[metalgorgomon]

Thank you Andy.. I've been looking for this!!

[Cayman]

Aaron/Segovia on the Wolverine mini sounds good.

[frog]

An Astonishing tie-in? Cool. Hope it just isn't Wolverine, however.

[CyberHubbs]

Uncanny #503. Oh no. Here we go.

[worstblogever]

X-Force vs. the Vanisher? HELL YEAH!

I hope they reference Warpath's past history, when he helped rescue the guy for Sledge & Risque way back when...

[rZi]

Uncanny #503. Oh no. Here we go.

That was exactly my reaction!

[timbox]

Emma stopping traffic on Lombard Street!

[Cayman]

Rockslide keeps staring at me. :eek:

[Optic Rage!]

Guess we can stop the debate.

Looks like Maddie is back.

Everything else looks a bit meh.

[CyberHubbs]

Also, what the hell did they do to Vanisher's face?! Ew.

And, does the Legacy cover spoil the current storyline?

Off to work!

[darknessatnoon]

X-Force vs. the Vanisher? HELL YEAH!

I hope they reference Warpath's past history, when he helped rescue the guy for Sledge & Risque way back when...

If those X-Force second-raters kill Vanisher, I will be royally pissed.

[Christopher O]

Ghost Boxes would be better without Alan Davis.

Storm's mini sounds good but that cover is bad.

All in all, sounds cool. I still manage to be most enthusiastic about Uncanny X-Men.

[timbox]

If those X-Force second-raters kill Vanisher, I will be royally pissed.

I'm sure the X-Force first-rater, X-23 would take care of it. It's a win-win.

[streator]

i'm getting:

cable 7
x-men: manifest destiny 2
astonishing x-men: ghost boxes 1
uncanny x-men 503
x-factor 36
x-men: legacy 217
x-force 8


i'm guessing that ghost boxes is a separate mini to give bianchi some time to keep the series from being delayed. i'm probably looking forward to x-force the most.

[Somebody]

I take it that Wolverine's now down to one costume (the chest-X yellow/blue), rather than wearing the brown costume in Origins and an X-less yellow/blue in NAv?

[NB: Wolverine: First Class doesn't count for the purposes, since it's set in the past]

[jarrod]

X-Force looks great, but where's Domino? :(

Ghost box should be good... Ellis and Davis is an epic pairing. If only Kitty was still there...



Oh and Parker's cover is great! He should draw more comiX!

[Cayman]

I will get

Cable #7
NYX: No Way Home #3
Captain Britain And MI13 #6 (unless the team member they lose is Spitfire)
X-Force #8

[Dagger]

X-Force sounds awesome, but what the eff is up with the Vanisher's tats? Totally O.O.C. I much prefer how he was portrayed in Uncanny under Casey.

[Flâneur]

I wonder if the AXM tie-in is replacing the main book for those months so as to give Bianchi a head start. Maybe we'll get a mini at the end of every arc?

Magneto Testament looks awesome.

The Uncanny solicit makes me lol.

X-Force looks call and reminds me of Casey's stuff.

Captain Britain is always cool.

Very keen on the Storm mini.

[timbox]

The New Exiles cover actually looks good.

[Hi-Fi]

That Land cover keeps getting worse and worse in my eyes. Meh.

Also, I fear I might be completely losing interest on X-Factor. We'll see.

X-Men: Manifest Destiny & Wolverine: Manifest Destiny both sound like a lot of fun.

[jarrod]

The New Exiles cover actually looks good.
Yeah, but you know what's waiting inside...

[ProfeZZor X]

Ahhhhh...... Feels good to get a little Iceman news. Even if it means certain doom for him.

I wonder how Emma ties in to his predicament, if at all. After all, they do have a little history together.

[Shade101]

I'm actually trying to look up some work by the Storm mini artist, but I'm not finding much.

[Beast]

Nice round of solicits this month.

And finally a Beast Centric X-Men: First Class. And a Giant Size Halloween Special to boot!

[Hi-Fi]

I'm actually trying to look up some work by the Storm mini artist, but I'm not finding much.
He's a newbie.

And I gotta disagree with Chris. I love the cover. I'm such a sucker for J. Scott Campbell's art (old Gen 13 fan here!).

[Patrion]

I'll be getting:

Young X-Men
X-Force (Doesn't the Vanisher look like his Evo. counterpart?)
X-Factor
X-Men: Legacy
Uncanny X-Men
X-Men: Manifest Destiny
Astonishing X-Men: Ghost Boxes

I think that covers me, yeah!

[Trississ]

The New Exiles cover actually looks good.

I thought so too. It's a cool cover.

[Beast]

Ahhhhh...... Feels good to get a little Iceman news. Even if it means certain doom for him.

I wonder how Emma ties in to his predicament, if at all. After all, they do have a little history together.
Emma might not tie into it. Remember, it's structured much like the Divided We Stand One-Shots.

Just this time we're getting a 4-part Iceman story as one of the stories in each issue.

[Shade101]

He's a newbie.

And I gotta disagree with Chris. I love the cover. I'm such a sucker for J. Scott Campbell's art (old Gen 13 fan here!).

Well I just hope he delivers in the art. I want to see great storytelling with great art.

[Dagger]

I may actually pick up a wolvie mini:eek: :eek: It's too bad Kitty's gone. I'm still missing her:frown:

[jester1436]

Emma looks like Candis Cayne on that mini cover.

And that Rockslide cover is effing HID.

[darknessatnoon]

The New Exiles cover actually looks good.

It's terrible computer generated art. I hate it.

[valechan]

More previews :D

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080722-marvel-solicitations.html

http://i.newsarama.com/preview_images/marvelnew/oct08/homcivwar002_cov.jpg

Including House of M: Civil War :D

[tetragene]

We need more than Cyke, Emma or Pixie gracing the UXM covers already. I expect the Nov issue to show Iceman, Angel, Dazzler or Karma :mad:

[Dagger]

We need more than Cyke, Emma or Pixie gracing the UXM covers already. I expect the Nov issue to show Iceman, Angel, Dazzler or Karma :mad:
Agreed!!! Listen to what we need and want, MARVEL!!!

[ProfeZZor X]

Nice round of solicits this month.

And finally a Beast Centric X-Men: First Class. And a Giant Size Halloween Special to boot!

You must be pretty excited about that... Considering everyone has had their turn with their own personal story. Though I thought the Hank & Bobby road trip was pretty decent.

[ToxicTeen]

Nice info for October but I was really hoping that in X-Force, they would finally do the Selene/Wither story. I mean it's been over a year since they started it in New X-Men and they still haven't finished it.(Sorry for the rant..:redface:) Sorry for my lack of X-men history knowledge but who is Vanisher?

As for Young X-Men, my guess is that Greymalkin is the non-mutant. I bet some are speculating that Rocksilde isn't a mutant since he's on the cover though I find it unlikely. :rolleyes:

I'm interested in X-Men: Manifest Destiny. Who is the old X-foe that's going to make an appearance? My guesses are either Magneto, Apocalypse, Selene, or an X-foe I how no knowledge of. And them mentioning NextWave makes me wish that Marvel continued the series. :redface:

[valechan]

Even more advance solicits

http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.4237.FIRST_LOOK%3A_October_2008_Bonus_Previ ews

http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.4246.FIRST_LOOK%3A_October_2008_BSA_Preview s

http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.4200.FIRST_LOOK%3A_October_2008_Spider-Man_Comics

[timbox]

It's terrible computer generated art. I hate it.

Your whole existence is computer generated!

[greenshoes713]

Emma stopping traffic on Lombard Street!

I KNOW RIGHT!? THATS SO COOL OF HER!

JEALOUS :tongue:

[Anna]

Bleh! Darwin's wearing Wildchild's original costume.

[greenshoes713]

Even more advance solicits

http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.4237.FIRST_LOOK%3A_October_2008_Bonus_Previ ews

http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.4246.FIRST_LOOK%3A_October_2008_BSA_Preview s

http://www.marvel.com/news/comics.4200.FIRST_LOOK%3A_October_2008_Spider-Man_Comics

Tnks!:biggrin:

Oh Chase is wearing socks with sandals! awesome!

[ExodusCloak]

Yes for solicits. Annihilation 3 here we come.

[Beast]

Really good month, I must say.

Cable #7 - I'm giving it one more storyarc. Especially since they're back in the present and we might get some answers to Bishop's motivations. Hopefully X-Force slices the bastard to ribbons.

New Exiles #12 & #13 - Yay, another two issue month. Curious about the 2-Part featuring Madam Hydra and her team versus Sabretooth and Cat. But the next storyarc sounds interesting. Hopefully they deal with Morph.

X-MEN: MANIFEST DESTINY #2 (of 4) - Gotta love that Mike Carey wasn't willing to allow Iceman to slip away quietly into limbo. A iceman focused story from him makes Manifest Destiny so much worth it.

X-MEN: MAGNETO TESTAMENT #2 (of 5) - I'm hoping the don't forget that Sinister should appear in this as 'Nosferatu', a scientist working for the Nazis who would give kids candy for blood samples.

ASTONISHING X-MEN: GHOST BOXES #1 (of 2) - At least it seems like they have a plan for the fact that Astonishing X-Men is going to be late due to how long it takes for the art. A connected mini is brilliant.

UNCANNY X-MEN #503 - Not much to say about this one. And not many teases from the solicits. My guess, they're pulling a fake-out and the woman is Maddie. Would fit with what we've already seen in UXM #499.

X-FACTOR #36 - Hmm, not much to say about this one either. No real reveals about the storyline from the solicit to discuss. Hopefully after the last issue we get some word on Longshot as well. Ya know.

X-MEN: WORLD'S APART #1 (of 4) - Interesting to see that they didn't name the Miniseries 'Storm' or anything like that. Guess they're trying to attract the X-Men fans instead of just Storm fans. Especially after the last two less than impressive Storm mini-series.

YOUNG X-MEN #7 - Hmmm, one of them isn't a mutant? Wonder if that is referring to Ink or Greymalkin. Glad that the first story arc is over with, now we can really see what's going to happen with the series.

X-MEN: LEGACY #217 - Not exactly thrilled about the crossover with Wolverine: Origins or Daken, but we'll see how it goes. I have more than enough faith in Mike Carey that it will rock. He hasn't let me down yet.

WOLVERINE: FIRST CLASS #8 - It's really great to see the Logan of old somewhere in the comics. He's gone in such an odd direction after becoming so over-exposed. Him and Shadowcat as a team is gold.

WOLVERINE: ORIGINS #29 - See my comments about X-Men: Legacy #217.

X-FORCE #8 - Neat to see that some of these old long forgotten villains are turning up again with a new lease on life. Though given the writers, a character coming out of limbo like this might mean death for them.

GIANT-SIZE X-MEN: FIRST CLASS #1 - Finally! A Beast Centric issue of X-Men: First Class. And it's a giant-size Halloween issue to boot! Can't wait for this. Hank's the one character who hasn't really gotten as much solo focus as the other characters in the book so far. Can't wait.

Skipping: NYX: No Way Home, Captain Britain & MI-13, Wolverine: Manifest Destiny, and Deadpool. Otherwise, good month.

[darknessatnoon]

MARVEL ADVENTURES THE AVENGERS #29
Written by JEFF PARKER & PAUL TOBIN
Penciled by IG GUARA & MATEO LOLLI
Cover by SEAN MURPHY & GURU eFX
It's just a cat, right? I mean, the Avengers SHOULD be able to rescue a cat from a tree, right? Unfortunately, when both cat and tree are in an overlapping universe, giving them a very ghostly, and very INTANGIBLE presence, that does make it a puzzler. And it's doubly hard for the Avengers when their efforts attract a deadly interdimensional monster! Plus, the somewhat scintillating menace of...Hammerhead!

Kitty Pryde, is that you?

[iMagik]

Kitty Pryde, is that you?
cat?
intangible?
sounds like her

[jmc247]

More previews :D

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080722-marvel-solicitations.html

http://i.newsarama.com/preview_images/marvelnew/oct08/homcivwar002_cov.jpg


September is going to prove hard on my wallet.

[ExodusCloak]

Is that white hummer next to that no entry sign Emma's?

[Joe Franklin]

I like the Exiles cover by Alex Garner, but I wish Alex were the regular inker on Exiles.

Garner is one of my top 5 all time favorite comic book inkers.:cool:

[RoguishGurl]

Looks like a great month. I can't wait!

I'm actually trying to look up some work by the Storm mini artist, but I'm not finding much.
Have you seen the varient cover for Messiah Complex that he did? It was the one with X-23, Emma, and Pixie. It was one of my favorite covers.

[Roo]

x-force cover - the person holding the sword... warpath is in the background, could it be shatterstar??

[metalgorgomon]

As for Young X-Men, my guess is that Greymalkin is the non-mutant. I bet some are speculating that Rocksilde isn't a mutant since he's on the cover though I find it unlikely. :rolleyes:


Could it be that the cover indicates that Rockslide won't make it??

[darknessatnoon]

x-force cover - the person holding the sword... warpath is in the background, could it be shatterstar??

I think you are right. That really makes me laugh. I mean, OK, fine, whatever. Shatterstar. LOL!

[Shade101]

Looks like a great month. I can't wait!


Have you seen the varient cover for Messiah Complex that he did? It was the one with X-23, Emma, and Pixie. It was one of my favorite covers.

Someone over in the Storm thread gave me a link to his website. He's actually pretty good, and I think he'll do a fine job. I'm still a tad skeptical though because I'm not too familiar with his work, but I did notice his lack of details on faces, and I would like for him to put more detail into Ororo's face in the mini series. Other than that, I think he's really good.

[valechan]

Has anyone else noticed the abrupt abundance of $3.99s?

[greenshoes713]

September is going to prove hard on my wallet.

Not me actually I'm only gonna buy X-Men:Manifest Destiny, X-Men: Legacy and Wolverine: Origins(and's its only cuz the crossover)

[Joe Franklin]

x-force cover - the person holding the sword... warpath is in the background, could it be shatterstar??

The character holding he knife to Vanisher's throat is a woman. Look how petite the arm's wrist is. It's Domino.

[chickrockguitar]

Yay! Been waiting for these! Can't wait for the full solicits tomorrow. Although from all the preview pages posted in this thread, just about all have been revealed today, lol.

Out of the "X"'s, I'll pick up:
- CABLE #7 (cos X-Force appear)
- NYX: NO WAY HOME #3
- X-MEN: MANIFEST DESTINY #2 (the cover made me laugh)
- UNCANNY X-MEN #503 (hate that cover - but meh)
- X-FORCE #8 (Wow. Nuff said)

The "maybes"
- ASTONISHING X-MEN: GHOST BOXES #1 (depends on Previews)
- YOUNG X-MEN #7 (depends on issue six - I'm giving that a shot)

[jarrod]

I think you are right. That really makes me laugh. I mean, OK, fine, whatever. Shatterstar. LOL!
homophobe!

[rwsmith]

The character holding he knife to Vanisher's throat is a woman. Look how petite the arm's wrist is. It's Domino.

The Vanisher is up against a mirror that Warpath has apparently slammed him into, so the X-Force characters' faces are reflections. The hand holding the knife is Warpath's, and claws on the left belong to Laura. Logan's claws are at bottom right, and Archangel's wings are at top right.

All in all a very nice cover for X-Force in October, and this storyline sounds fantastic (which is pretty par for the course with this title).

[Joe Franklin]

The Vanisher is up against a mirror that Warpath has apparently slammed him into, so the X-Force characters' faces are reflections. The hand holding the knife is Warpath's, and claws on the left belong to Laura. Logan's claws are at bottom right, and Archangel's wings are at top right.


You are corret. I forgot that Warpath was wearing gloves in X-Force.

[Hi-Fi]

However, there IS someone else looking for Vanisher, and I'd bet money on Domino. The editors said they have big plans for her.

[rwsmith]

Oh, yeah. Domino is definitely joining from all the hints we've been given. IMO she has to be the "sexy as hell" addition. Archangel was the "off the radar unexpected" one, and I am absolutely convinced that Wolfsbane will end up being the "devastatingly brutal" one (as she isn't even a team member at the moment; even the recap at the beginning of last issue only lists Wolverine, X-23, and Warpath as the current members of X-Force).

[Brett P]

Here at last! Feels like it's been forever waiting for this batch!

The good:

- Rockslide is alive and kicking his own solo cover on Young X-Men #7! Woo! And he looks damn awesome.

- Carey's Iceman story sounds intriguing and Yost is also a writer on the issue. I like seeing Tabby called Boom Boom again...I hope it isn't just for the solicits.

- Yosts Storm mini already sounds like the best Storm story in a good long while. It promises big things, let's hope it delivers (but then, it IS Yost so that's a given really). Wow it's quite a Yostful month!

The bad:

- No issue of Old Man Logan. Isn't that two months in a row?

- Is Darwin supposed to be an action figure on that X-Factor cover? lol

- Fill in stories for Astonishing already? I knew it was time to worry when Bianchi hadn't even finished two issues worth of art by the time the run started...I mean, HOW much lead time did they have? Hate Alan Davis art too.

X-Force, Cable and Uncanny all sound ok but I don't really have any favourites in X-Force and Uncanny sounds too vague to get excited about.

[greenshoes713]

Here at last! Feels like it's been forever waiting for this batch!

The good:

- Rockslide is alive and kicking his own solo cover on Young X-Men #7! Woo! And he looks damn awesome.

- Carey's Iceman story sounds intriguing and Yost is also a writer on the issue. I like seeing Tabby called Boom Boom again...I hope it isn't just for the solicits.

- Yosts Storm mini already sounds like the best Storm story in a good long while. It promises big things, let's hope it delivers (but then, it IS Yost so that's a given really). Wow it's quite a Yostful month!

The bad:

- No issue of Old Man Logan. Isn't that two months in a row?

- Is Darwin supposed to be an action figure on that X-Factor cover? lol

- Fill in stories for Astonishing already? I knew it was time to worry when Bianchi hadn't even finished two issues worth of art by the time the run started...I mean, HOW much lead time did they have? Hate Alan Davis art too.

X-Force, Cable and Uncanny all sound ok but I don't really have any favourites in X-Force and Uncanny sounds too vague to get excited about.

Yay Brett yo happy the solits came? What i tell ya?

[rwsmith]

I'll be getting:

Cable #7 - Once the X-Force guest-appearance is over, however, this one may get dropped
Astonishing X-men: Ghost Boxes #1 - Anything with the Astonishing team is a "must buy" for me
Uncanny X-men #503 - Definitely digging the new direction for the core X-men book, so count me in
Wolverine: Manifest Destiny #1 - Looks like a worthwhile Wolverine mini, and it's written by Jason Aaron
X-men: Legacy #217 - Only buying this for the tie-in with Wolverine: Origins
Wolverine: First Class #8 - This book is a lot of fun, and this issue seems to be no exception
Wolverine: Origins #29 - I might be in the minority, but I've been enjoying this series for the most part; now with Deodato, Jr. taking over and an interesting looking crossover starting up, I'm definitely buying this
X-Force #8 - Like Astonishing X-men, this is another "must buy" for me every month

Maybe:
X-men: Manifest Destiny #2 - I'll peek at it in the store; if it looks good, I might buy it
Deadpool #3 - Planning on giving his new series a shot (just like I've done for Cable); if the first two are good, I'll buy #3

[darknessatnoon]

The Vanisher is up against a mirror that Warpath has apparently slammed him into, so the X-Force characters' faces are reflections. The hand holding the knife is Warpath's

You ruined my day with your logic.

[rwsmith]

Sorry about that, darkness.

[drakeon]

The red head will be Firestar. She was teased to be joining the Sisterhood of Mutants in the last Cup o' Joe

[Brett P]

Yay Brett yo happy the solits came? What i tell ya?

I just saw what Ramos has done to Chase on the Runaways cover...and it has single handedly killed my enthusiasm for the entire solicits!

I was always wary about Ramos being on art duties of my favourite book and when he said in an interview that he drew Chase with a football players build I begun to REALLY worry...but it's worse than I ever could have imagined. Chase has NEVER been big built and now he's built like the frickin HULK!! I always thought Ramos sucked but this little gem shunts him right to the top of my most hated artists list...even above JRJR!!!!

[Pach!]

I on the other hand think brett p is insane and love Ramos' cover for the Runaways..I honestly feel my runaways love reinvigorated after joss whedon kinda killed it for a bit.

[Oliverhannah]

Guess we can stop the debate.

Looks like Maddie is back.

Everything else looks a bit meh.


Naa, tha's Martquie aka MASTERMIND II!

Ahhhhh...... Feels good to get a little Iceman news. Even if it means certain doom for him.

I wonder how Emma ties in to his predicament, if at all. After all, they do have a little history together.


Dark Beast should have there!

[Brett P]

I on the other hand think brett p is insane and love Ramos' cover for the Runaways..I honestly feel my runaways love reinvigorated after joss whedon kinda killed it for a bit.

If you like the fact that a slim built character has suddenly grown to the proportions of the Hulk under artistic license then it is YOU who are insane my friend!! I mean compare this Chase to the one in the current Yost written SI mini...it's pitiful.

[Oliverhannah]

Ahhhhh...... Feels good to get a little Iceman news. Even if it means certain doom for him.

I wonder how Emma ties in to his predicament, if at all. After all, they do have a little history together.


Dark Beast should have there!

[Pach!]

If you like the fact that a slim built character has suddenly grown to the proportions of the Hulk under artistic license then it is YOU who are insane my friend!! I mean compare this Chase to the one in the current Yost written SI mini...it's pitiful.

lol he always was an athlete ..maybe he finally had time to bulk up.. plus we already have Victor for the regular build, it's cool to have some dversity

[Hi-Fi]

Pach likes his men with a little meat, Brett!

[Pach!]

Pach likes his men with a little meat, Brett!

take a hint, vic. I want you butch when I visit brazil.

[Joe Franklin]

I just saw what Ramos has done to Chase on the Runaways cover...and it has single handedly killed my enthusiasm for the entire solicits!

I was always wary about Ramos being on art duties of my favourite book and when he said in an interview that he drew Chase with a football players build I begun to REALLY worry...but it's worse than I ever could have imagined. Chase has NEVER been big built and now he's built like the frickin HULK!! I always thought Ramos sucked but this little gem shunts him right to the top of my most hated artists list...even above JRJR!!!!

Ramos is the only reason for me to start buying Runaways, since they are all a bunch of wimpy little brats. So count me in as a guy who is happy that Ramos is beefing up a few of the wimpy characters on Runaways.:biggrin:

[ProfeZZor X]

Dark Beast should have there!

Not sure how Dark Beast could be an effective threat to Iceman, unless he's within a close proximity or using projectiles...

[darknessatnoon]

Not sure how Dark Beast could be an effective threat to Iceman, unless he's within a close proximity or using projectiles...

Dark Beast isn't even an effective threat to Beast.

[Hi-Fi]

take a hint, vic. I want you butch when I visit brazil.
LOL.

I'm eating a cake right now, just for you!

[ProfeZZor X]

Dark Beast isn't even an effective threat to Beast.

...Or for that matter, Sam Guthrie's mom with a shotgun and a bad attitude.

[Anna]

Yay! Been waiting for these! Can't wait for the full solicits tomorrow. Although from all the preview pages posted in this thread, just about all have been revealed today, lol.


Didn't see New Warriors... :frown:

[Flâneur]

I just saw what Ramos has done to Chase on the Runaways cover...and it has single handedly killed my enthusiasm for the entire solicits!

I was always wary about Ramos being on art duties of my favourite book and when he said in an interview that he drew Chase with a football players build I begun to REALLY worry...but it's worse than I ever could have imagined. Chase has NEVER been big built and now he's built like the frickin HULK!! I always thought Ramos sucked but this little gem shunts him right to the top of my most hated artists list...even above JRJR!!!!
Sit down, Bretterick. I outrank you on the fanboy hierarchy and I say it's good art and that's final. No appeals will be made on this decision, so go back to the solicit and start anticipating or I will ravage you mercilessly. Have I made myself clear?

[LawGiver]

Looks good.

I guess they are giving Bianchi a little break with this tie in Ghost Box mini? I guess that's ok, I'd rather have material from Ellis than nothing at all.

Who is that on the X-Force cover?

Uncanny sounds great but I swear to God that better not be Jean Grey.

Legacy/Origins sounds ok, atleast the art will be good.

[Slung]

I'm personally excited about Ramos on Runaways. The yawn-inducing art of Ryan is finally ended.

That said: does Marvel hate me? Does it hate Jean? Does it hate her numerous fans? We have feelings and effin (may she rest in peace because I once loved her) Maddie Pryor's story is done. It finished tragically in Inferno and then got dragged through the murky mire to a sad little zombie finish in X-Man. Jean's story will never be done. She's the freakin' heart of the X-Man and in the top four most important X-Men characters.

Console me.

This is ridiculous.

*regaining composure*

EDIT:

Uncanny sounds great but I swear to God that better not be Jean Grey.

What the bloody heck? Please let us enjoy our characters without your needless hate.

[darknessatnoon]

I'm personally excited about Ramos on Runaways. The yawn-inducing art of Ryan is finally ended.

That said: does Marvel hate me? Does it hate Jean? Does it hate her numerous fans? We have feelings and effin (may she rest in peace because I once loved her) Maddie Pryor's story is done. It finished tragically in Inferno and then got dragged through the murky mire to a sad little zombie finish in X-Man. Jean's story will never be done. She's the freakin' heart of the X-Man and in the top four most important X-Men characters.

Console me.

No.

Maddie is Jean Personality Variant 15, anyway. One of the better personalities, I might add. I'd just advise you to get over it.

[Gene M.]

Looks good.

I guess they are giving Bianchi a little break with this tie in Ghost Box mini? I guess that's ok, I'd rather have material from Ellis than nothing at all.

Who is that on the X-Force cover?

Uncanny sounds great but I swear to God that better not be Jean Grey.

Legacy/Origins sounds ok, atleast the art will be good.
What is your problem? We get it, you don't like Jean Grey. You don't need to keep crapping all over the character and her fans. People are getting sick and tired of it.

[Slung]

No.

Maddie is Jean Personality Variant 15, anyway. One of the better personalities, I might add. I'd just advise you to get over it.

A curse upon you and your house!

"May Sage forever be stuck in Claremontian Hell and may Cassandra Nova forever be trapped in the Limbo of Armor and Ernst without anyone ever knowing the confusing truth."

[Flâneur]

I'm personally excited about Ramos on Runaways. The yawn-inducing art of Ryan is finally ended.

That said: does Marvel hate me? Does it hate Jean? Does it hate her numerous fans? We have feelings and effin (may she rest in peace because I once loved her) Maddie Pryor's story is done. It finished tragically in Inferno and then got dragged through the murky mire to a sad little zombie finish in X-Man. Jean's story will never be done. She's the freakin' heart of the X-Man and in the top four most important X-Men characters.

Console me.

This is ridiculous.

*regaining composure*

EDIT:

What the bloody heck? Please let us enjoy our characters without your needless hate.
*consoles*

Think of them as aspects of Jean's story from beyond the grave, maybe? Jean's getting her Origin mini-series, stars in First Class, will have another Song mini-series soon, has 'aspects' of herself starring in the books and she's always going to be the Other Woman in Scott's relationship so she's going to be included in things even while she's dead. We also both know that they won't let her stay dead forever - she's too high profile, too marketable. So don't worry, it'll be ok.:smile: :smile:

[LawGiver]

What is your problem? We get it, you don't like Jean Grey. You don't need to keep crapping all over the character and her fans. People are getting sick and tired of it.

Do not make me start a Jean Grey Non-Appreciation thread. I will do it. I am allowed to voice my dislike for a character just like anyone else! You do not get to tell me what I can and can not like, you sir do not have that right.

[Slung]

*consoles*

Think of them as aspects of Jean's story from beyond the grave, maybe? Jean's getting her Origin mini-series, stars in First Class, will have another Song mini-series soon, has 'aspects' of herself starring in the books and she's always going to be the Other Woman in Scott's relationship so she's going to be included in things even while she's dead. We also both know that they won't let her stay dead forever - she's too high profile, too marketable. So don't worry, it'll be ok.:smile: :smile:

It doesn't feel okay. On top of Marvel crapping on Jean's grave every few months, I've got to deal with the stupid Jean Trolls.

[LawGiver]

It doesn't feel okay. On top of Marvel crapping on Jean's grave every few months, I've got to deal with the stupid Jean Trolls.

I am not a troll, I'm voicing my dislike of the character, just like most people in this thread have done.

Do not hate.

[Yoshi]

I am not a troll, I'm voicing my dislike of the character, just like most people in this thread have done.

Do not hate.

Voicing your dislike 1 time in a thread is one thing, but doing it every chance you have is another.

[Slung]

I am not a troll, I'm voicing my dislike of the character, just like most people in this thread have done.

Do not hate.

Please tell me your favorite character so I can share my opinion of him/her. Constantly.

[LawGiver]

Please tell me your favorite character so I can share my opinion of him/her. Constantly.

My favorite character is Death. Thanos's girlfriend and bunk mate of one Jean Grey.

[Yoshi]

My favorite character is Death. Thanos's girlfriend and bunk mate of one Jean Grey.

Death is the DUMBEST character ever.

[valechan]

Do not make me start a Jean Grey Non-Appreciation thread. I will do it. I am allowed to voice my dislike for a character just like anyone else! You do not get to tell me what I can and can not like, you sir do not have that right.

I'd post there :D

[Yoshi]

I'd post there :D

What about a thread about storm's penis, its a stupid idea so I thought you might like it.

[LawGiver]

Death is the DUMBEST character ever.

Your opinion.

I'd post there :D

That's not encouraging.

[valechan]

Nope, I wouldn't like that at all, maybe a Angel and Iceman: the Untold Gay story thread would interest me, but not so much

[Flâneur]

It doesn't feel okay. On top of Marvel crapping on Jean's grave every few months, I've got to deal with the stupid Jean Trolls.
lol

I like Rachel. And Nocturne. My situation is much much much worse. R'Chel and stroke gurrl. :frown:

And the Dazzler clan hate Rachel almost as much as Sage. :frown:

And don't forget Exiles Sunfire, who's deader than dead and will never be referenced again.:frown:

[Yoshi]

Nope, I wouldn't like that at all, maybe a Angel and Iceman: the Untold Gay story thread would interest me, but not so much

You're right, the Storm and iceman: untold gay story would interest you.

[RoguishGurl]

Guys, stay on topic.

Choi is the sex!

[Yoshi]

Guys, stay on topic.

Choi is the sex!

I guess I can do that for you RG, and Choi is teh awesome.

[Flâneur]

Guys, stay on topic.

LOL

You so want Cronin in the butt.

[RoguishGurl]

LOL

You so want Cronin in the butt.

Who doesn't?

[jester1436]

lol

I like Rachel. And Nocturne. My situation is much much much worse. R'Chel and stroke gurrl. :frown:

And the Dazzler clan hate Rachel almost as much as Sage. :frown:

And don't forget Exiles Sunfire, who's deader than dead and will never be referenced again.:frown:

*offers inappropriate sympathy*

[La Fea]

I haven't been interested in solicits in a while!

I'm very into Manifest Destiny already. I love the cover! LOL I don't know why.

OMFG I love the Vanisher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE that.

[Slung]

lol

I like Rachel. And Nocturne. My situation is much much much worse. R'Chel and stroke gurrl. :frown:

And the Dazzler clan hate Rachel almost as much as Sage. :frown:

And don't forget Exiles Sunfire, who's deader than dead and will never be referenced again.:frown:

I remember when I liked Rachel. It was when I thought Jean and Rach could peacefully co-exist and then Marvel decided that for one to survive the other had to fall. LAME.

[greenshoes713]

I haven't been interested in solicits in a while!

I'm very into Manifest Destiny already. I love the cover! LOL I don't know why.

OMFG I love the Vanisher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE that.

Cuz Emma's bein' fierce thats why, it also mentions Boom-Boom!:biggrin:

[La Fea]

Didn't see New Warriors... :frown:

I always wait for it during solicits and it always comes last.

I keep expecting to see that picture of the team members in their old costumes with their powers. Maybe that'll be this month???????

[just another user]

I also like Rachel.

And that could be Jean on the #503 cover. She is identical to Maddie lookswise after all.

[jester1436]

Emma is so Candis Cayne on that Manifest Destiny cover.

http://i38.tinypic.com/2n72gi0.jpg

Candis Cayne is the GOD WARRIOR (http://youtube.com/watch?v=4LheDdJtzYA)

[Retconnie]

I guess that may just be M pryor on the uncanny cover.....considering the next big event, according to lying in the gutters, is INFERNO revisited.

I LOVED inferno, so I hope its true.:evilsmile:

[Flâneur]

Who doesn't?
Molly, I'd hope. Then again ... she was Lo, plain Lo.
*offers inappropriate sympathy*
*pinches your bottom*
I remember when I liked Rachel. It was when I thought Jean and Rach could peacefully co-exist and then Marvel decided that for one to survive the other had to fall. LAME.
Well, they co-existed all those years in Excalibur and during Revolution!

I'm really affronted that they locked her out of the 90s though, I mean, they were fine with X-man and Cable and Stryfe co-existing, as well as Jean and Maddie but Rachel was too confusing? LAME.
I also like Rachel.
You're just trying to turn me on.

[Imraith Nimphais]

ah...a delightfully light x-month for me, yeah. Just UXM, X-Force n' Storm: world's apart...(and X-men :SI...when it comes, of course)

[La Fea]

Cuz Emma's bein' fierce thats why, it also mentions Boom-Boom!:biggrin:

I think I just miss Ramos for some reason. I don't know if I'd even consider myself a superfan or anything, but his kind of energy keeps me interested.

BUT EMMA DOES LOOK NICE!!! Even the weird X enblem looks better gray instead of black. I think she totally should've done the Posh point and pose routine though. It would've been HILAR.

[Novaya Havoc]

I require there to be MOAR Dazzler.

However.

As long as DECEMBER -- aka my birthday month -- prominently features Dazzler in time for a Hannukah/Christmas/Novaya Birthday triumvirate of FABULOUS I am ok.

I'll nab Uncanny and X-Force from this month. Rest will be a pass.

EDIT: Actually, I may also check the Storm mini.

[blehbeh]

And that could be Jean on the #503 cover. She is identical to Maddie lookswise after all.

I'll join a previous poster and place my bets on the redhead being Firestar. Quesada mentioned her joining a group of females, which could very well be the Sisterhood. Plus, she has a history with Emma. Makes sense. More sense than Maddie or Jean coming back anyway.

Or it could simply be Martinique. That hair isn't THAT red.

[KiplingKat]

I am very excited about Magneto: Testament. It sounds like they are really trying to get the history right, and making Magneto German (though every indication prior was that he was Polish)) does put him in the center of a lot of events. He get to witness the transformation, rather than just getting the end results of them in the Polish invasion.

[MarvelGirlBoy]

It's okay that's not Madeline Pryor. It's the Messiah Baby.

That, or it's Firestar. Which I'm pretty sure about. I think there is a lot more material for Angelica, like her against Emma, than for Maddy - who would just confuse new readers.

I remember when I liked Rachel. It was when I thought Jean and Rach could peacefully co-exist and then Marvel decided that for one to survive the other had to fall. LAME.

Where Marvel have logicfail, we do not. Just like how we do not accept that Jean and Emma are destined to take half each of Cyclops' scrotum.

[Swashbuckler]

I didn't read the thread, but I hope I'm not the only one whose annoyed by the stupid Astonishing: Ghost Box BS. Come on!

[Henry T.]

IF it is Maddie, how do you guys think they will explain her return?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Great. AXM "delays" already...?

[LawGiver]

Nick Lowe made it pretty clear in the last X-Position that there are no plans to bring Jean back. So it's certainly not her. Maddie and Firestar have been talked about recently though.



You see it all the time when Chris Claremont, Scarlet Witch, and several names come up. Why is Jean so precious? It's great that she's not around consistently. I wish she could of taken Cyclops with her. It's hard reading some of these books with Scott all of a sudden being retconned with Captain America-like tactical knowledge and leadership.

That's not a retcon.

IF it is Maddie, how do you guys think they will explain her return?

She's a clone, it's kinda self explantory if you ask me.

Great. AXM "delays" already...?

It may be delayed, but it looks planned, a planned delay to let Bianchi catch up on work, we are still getting Astonishing issues written by Warren Ellis, what's the big deal? I for one am all for this type of thing, we saw it with X-Force when we got a very good one-shot. It allowed Crain to get back the next issue out and start working on the next arc he will draw. If this is how they are going to handle books that have artists who aren't best suited for monthly titles I think it's a great idea.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

It may be delayed, but it looks planned, a planned delay to let Bianchi catch up on work, we are still getting Astonishing issues written by Warren Ellis, what's the big deal? I for one am all for this type of thing, we saw it with X-Force when we got a very good one-shot. It allowed Crain to get back the next issue out and start working on the next arc he will draw. If this is how they are going to handle books that have artists who aren't best suited for monthly titles I think it's a great idea.

Honestly? I don't wanna buy a TWO-PARTERS tie-in for every arc. Ain't even about the money. It's the principle, really.

[LawGiver]

Honestly? I don't wanna buy a TWO-PARTERS tie-in for every arc. Ain't even about the money. It's the principle, really.

True, but it seems to add to the story atleast and it is by the same writer.

[Henry T.]

She's a clone, it's kinda self explantory if you ask me.



Yeah but she died.

She'd still have to be reborn or recreated somehow with her original consciousness and all.

If shes just another clone of Jean then she isn't necessarily Madelyne Pryor.

[LawGiver]

Yeah but she died.

She'd still have to be reborn or recreated somehow with her original consciousness and all.

If shes just another clone of Jean then she isn't necessarily Madelyne Pryor.
Sinister does it w/ the Marauders, toss that explanation in with Maddie and BOOM, instant Pryor.

[froma]

Clayton Crain's Deadpool looks awesome. :eek:

[Slung]

Sinister does it w/ the Marauders, toss that explanation in with Maddie and BOOM, instant Pryor.

But he couldn't get Maddie alive until that fractured part of Jean's soul left-over from the Dark Phoenix came and woke her up.

[Swashbuckler]

Perhaps the birth of the Messiah Baby woke up the new Maddie and that's why Sinister wanted the baby.

[LawGiver]

But he couldn't get Maddie alive until that fractured part of Jean's soul left-over from the Dark Phoenix came and woke her up.

Jean is missing from Phoenix fragments correct?

[Excelsior]

Those solicits are full of uNfail

Darwin app in x-factor

Jason Aaron writing another Issue of Wolverine( albeit a limited series)

Hellfire club rebuild

[blehbeh]

Those solicits are full of uNfail

Darwin app in x-factor

Jason Aaron writing another Issue of Wolverine( albeit a limited series)

Hellfire club rebuild

Really happy about the Aaron series. I was bummed when Old Man Logan was bumping more Aaron Wolverine, but this works just as well.

Love the idea of what looks like Black Womb becoming "Madame Sinister," but too bad it kind of spoiled the current Legacy story.

But...Vanisher covered with crazy tribal tattoos? Looks like a far cry from the Casey version, which I liked. Guess we'll see.

Lack of New Warriors from any of these previews is making me very happy for the time being, until the full solicitations come along and probably crush my hopes...

[Anna]

Do not make me start a Jean Grey Non-Appreciation thread. I will do it. I am allowed to voice my dislike for a character just like anyone else! You do not get to tell me what I can and can not like, you sir do not have that right.

It doesn't feel okay. On top of Marvel crapping on Jean's grave every few months, I've got to deal with the stupid Jean Trolls.



Slung, you're the reason for about 75% of the Jean bashing on these boards. You can't let any subject go by without interjecting her into it. Most of us were relieved to have her gone, even for awhile; but no matter what story we're discussing you need to whine about her. Give us a break!

[Omega Alpha]

But he couldn't get Maddie alive until that fractured part of Jean's soul left-over from the Dark Phoenix came and woke her up.

He's the Goddamn Sinister, he could have found a way.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

He's the Goddamn Sinister, he could have found a way.

Kinda was a WTF plot element, wasn't it?

[DeniseXfrost]

I'm exicted about the X-men manifest destiney for obvious reasons.

[Slung]

Slung, you're the reason for about 75% of the Jean bashing on these boards. You can't let any subject go by without interjecting her into it. Most of us were relieved to have her gone, even for awhile; but no matter what story we're discussing you need to whine about her. Give us a break!

This is about Maddie, I didn't think interjecting Jean into was really that far out. I figured everyone whines about their favs and interjects them into conversations, whether its Ben with Dazzler, dn@n with Sage, Vic with Rogue, KiplingKat with Magneto, Whit with X-23, etc. I'm sorry that my frustrations have vexed you. Please just ignore my rants and enjoy being on the board.

[LawGiver]

This is about Maddie, I didn't think interjecting Jean into was really that far out. I figured everyone whines about their favs and interjects them into conversations, whether its Ben with Dazzler, dn@n with Sage, Vic with Rogue, KiplingKat with Magneto, Whit with X-23, etc. I'm sorry that my frustrations have vexed you. Please just ignore my rants and enjoy being on the board.

And you call me a troll for doing what the popular kids do? Interesting.

[Slung]

And you call me a troll for doing what the popular kids do? Interesting.

I'm not quite sure who the popular kids are or what you refer to. Please explain. Hopefully with diagrams.

[Anna]

Yeah but she died.

She'd still have to be reborn or recreated somehow with her original consciousness and all.

If shes just another clone of Jean then she isn't necessarily Madelyne Pryor.

She's a Skrull.

[LawGiver]

I'm not quite sure who the popular kids are or what you refer to. Please explain. Hopefully with diagrams.

We're not playing Dogdeball.

[Slung]

We're not playing Dogdeball.

Okay, that works for me.

[LawGiver]

Hypocrits.

[La Fea]

This is about Maddie, I didn't think interjecting Jean into was really that far out. I figured everyone whines about their favs and interjects them into conversations, whether its Ben with Dazzler, dn@n with Sage, Vic with Rogue, KiplingKat with Magneto, Whit with X-23, etc. I'm sorry that my frustrations have vexed you. Please just ignore my rants and enjoy being on the board.

...

You...BITCH.

[Slung]

Hypocrits.

How so? Please explain.

[Slung]

...

You...BITCH.
Oh, sorry. And La Fea with Wind Dancer. Happier, dear? LOVE.

[La Fea]

I really like the marvel Adventures Avengers cover. I want to see more of this artist right now!

[La Fea]

Oh, sorry. And La Fea with Wind Dancer. Happier, dear? LOVE.

Yes, thank you. :)

[La Fea]

ALSO best believe I will pick up Spider-Man for Kelly and Bachalo.
REMIND ME PLEASE TO PICK IT UP GUYZ.

Also, Chase sure got fat.

[DeniseXfrost]

Monet has hooker nails.

[Slung]

Yes, thank you. :)

You and I are crazy about Monet together though!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18265/378458-105955-m_super.jpg

[DeniseXfrost]

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3807/xfact36covtl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Umm hooker nails.

[Quinnhop]

X-Factor can't catch a break...

They have shit covers and interiors.

[Slung]

X-Factor can't catch a break...

They have shit covers and interiors.

Yeah, that cover is hideous.

[princesa]

I want the Storm mini

[justinkos91]

Stroman's still drawing for X-Factor? DANG! Just when I started to like the characters and the stories, he had to come along and make the art awful. Buying all minus X-Factor... :mad:

[justinkos91]

X-Factor can't catch a break...

They have shit covers and interiors.

I'd rather have the cover art as interior art, at least the characters would actually look normal

[Hakael]

who's holding the sword on the X-Force cover?...

it looks like Proudstar's hand, but thats not a hunting knife...

I'd say domino, but I always thought she was a gun girl and not a blade babe.
... ech... Shatterstar? I hope not. So many better choices than him.

[Dagger]

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3807/xfact36covtl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Umm hooker nails.
Monet's just trying out for the new SWV cover band.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Wow that X-Factor cover really isn't flattering...

I'm still kinda surprised that Captain Britain & MI:13 is still being listed in amongst the X-Book. I know it's edited by Lowe, and so is still attached to the X-Office. But the book is dealinng with Skrulls, Demons and government operations. It's a Marvel Universe book, all right. Not harming sales either.

[Novaya Havoc]

Monet's just trying out for the new SWV cover band.

Someone needs to tell Monet to burn those boots. Hardcore.


And Sword: agreed. CB: MI13, to me, is not an X-Book. It feels more MU.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Someone needs to tell Monet to burn those boots. Hardcore.

Indeed.

Also, those thighs - hell, LEGS - could use a workout and some actual flesh. Or even, God forbid, FAT. Yikes. :eek:

Darwin obviously gets a free pass since he's lame to start with and he'll instantly grow muscle if he's hit in the leg or something.

[Dagger]

Someone needs to tell Monet to burn those boots. Hardcore.
Seriously. Eww. Barf.

[timbox]

I think the cover is great. Monet is looking hot. I love her skinny legs and the boots aren't that bad.

[ExodusCloak]

Slung, you're the reason for about 75% of the Jean bashing on these boards. You can't let any subject go by without interjecting her into it. Most of us were relieved to have her gone, even for awhile; but no matter what story we're discussing you need to whine about her. Give us a break!

Have I said how much I love people who make sense. Anna for the WIN.
Btw Legacy seems intruiging.

[Beast]

Best thing in the entire month of solicits.

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/1008/MMXMEN007_solicit.jpg

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=10001

[jarrod]

I'm still kinda surprised that Captain Britain & MI:13 is still being listed in amongst the X-Book. I know it's edited by Lowe, and so is still attached to the X-Office. But the book is dealinng with Skrulls, Demons and government operations. It's a Marvel Universe book, all right. Not harming sales either.
Well, the CB mythos has been pretty well cannibalized by the X-line (Betsy/Jamie retconned into mutants, Feron/Necrom/Merlyn/Phoenix/Corps links, Roma's varied involvement with the X-Men, neXiles, Roma in Tessa's head, Sat-yr-9 as White Queen of the HFC, the Braddocks ties to the HFC, etc, etc) despite Cornell's good work at a fresh separation. The book also prominently features Wisdom, who's only real past associations have been X-team related (Excalibur, X-Force, New Excalibur).

I love CB&MI13, but I hope Cornell doesn't shy too far away from the mutant angle... there's plenty of british mutants who I wouldn't mind getting some screen time at some point or another (Meggan, Tangerine, Micromax, Kylun, Toad, Alchemy, etc) but I also wouldn't mind if the title kept it's distance somewhat from the core X-line. Then again, not all mutant issues need be X-centric either.

[Brett P]

You can always count on Carey for awsomeness. Anoles role in SI:X-Men sounds great. Too bad they didn't put him on the cover alongside Dazzler...if only for Novayas reaction. :tongue:

lol he always was an athlete ..maybe he finally had time to bulk up.. plus we already have Victor for the regular build, it's cool to have some dversity

But but but...Ramos also said he's geekifying and scrawnifying Victor! When Ultron created his android teen to kill all the super heroes...why on EARTH would making it scrawny be a good idea?? Ramos should pay attention to characters histories and not just base designs on their personalities.

Pach likes his men with a little meat, Brett!

lol :tongue:

Sit down, Bretterick. I outrank you on the fanboy hierarchy and I say it's good art and that's final. No appeals will be made on this decision, so go back to the solicit and start anticipating or I will ravage you mercilessly. Have I made myself clear?

HA, but if I immediately step down to you then I shall offend the Pachmeister! But I like random additions to my name so...I shall now shush. :biggrin:

[streator]

Wow that X-Factor cover really isn't flattering...

i agree. i haven't enjoyed any of cook's covers or fabry's covers before then. neither seem to suit this book in my opinion.

i wish raimondi was still on the book.

[Pach!]

But but but...Ramos also said he's geekifying and scrawnifying Victor! When Ultron created his android teen to kill all the super heroes...why on EARTH would making it scrawny be a good idea?? Ramos should pay attention to characters histories and not just base designs on their personalities.



lol Victor has always been thin, Ramos exaggerate art would just reflect that. Plus, even with Ultron's reason to create him, his powers aren't physical.

DON'T TRY AND BRING THE RAMOS HATE, BRETT. I AM PREPARED TO FIGHT. Tho I am equally happy with Anole news.

[Novaya Havoc]

You can always count on Carey for awsomeness. Anoles role in SI:X-Men sounds great. Too bad they didn't put him on the cover alongside Dazzler...if only for Novayas reaction. :tongue:


Why would you want that reaction? Do you really want all copies of the issue burned?

[frog]

I think Ramos is a great artist for the Runaways. Skottie Young would be another good choice.

[Beast]

I think Ramos is a great artist for the Runaways. Skottie Young would be another good choice.
Agreed with Ramos. Disagreed with Skottie. Ewww.

[Brett P]

lol Victor has always been thin, Ramos exaggerate art would just reflect that. Plus, even with Ultron's reason to create him, his powers aren't physical.

DON'T TRY AND BRING THE RAMOS HATE, BRETT. I AM PREPARED TO FIGHT. Tho I am equally happy with Anole news.

lol Victor is average-slim. He's not thin and he's not a geek, he just had an inherent fascination of super heroes programmed into him. Chase is toned and played sport but was never big. This isn't about Ramos' art abilities, but his decision to change characters actual physical appearance just because HE wants to! Though his art DOES suck big time too :tongue:

Why would you want that reaction? Do you really want all copies of the issue burned?

AS IF you'd burn any comic with a silver-clad, blonde haired Dazzler on the cover! Even YOUR rabid hate of Anole isn't THAT insane.

[darknessatnoon]

Agreed with Ramos. Disagreed with Skottie. Ewww.

I admire the consistency of your views.

[Flâneur]

HA, but if I immediately step down to you then I shall offend the Pachmeister! But I like random additions to my name so...I shall now shush. :biggrin:

Good boy!

*pats on head*

You may have some sausage now.

[frog]

Agreed with Ramos. Disagreed with Skottie. Ewww.

But I love Skottie! I wish he'd finished the Beast and Pixie Rockwell style cover.

[Pach!]

lol Victor is average-slim. He's not thin and he's not a geek, he just had an inherent fascination of super heroes programmed into him. Chase is toned and played sport but was never big. This isn't about Ramos' art abilities, but his decision to change characters actual physical appearance just because HE wants to! Though his art DOES suck big time too :tongue:



Kinda like how Skottie Young changed the New X-men? :wink:

Plus Vic and his friend (roberto?) are just sitting there instead of doing P.E. clearly they were never meant to be in the "athletic" clique. Plus Vic is SO a geek. He knew more about dinosaurs than Gert did.

[darknessatnoon]

This is ridiculous. Chase clearly got the munchies too much, ok!? He'll sweat it off eventually.

[Brett P]

Kinda like how Skottie Young changed the New X-men? :wink:

Damn you :biggrin: Hellions' hair was probably as much of an outrage as Chases new build. Most of Skotties changes were good though :tongue:

Plus Vic and his friend (roberto?) are just sitting there instead of doing P.E. clearly they were never meant to be in the "athletic" clique. Plus Vic is SO a geek. He knew more about dinosaurs than Gert did.

Game and match to you sir.

Still hate Ramos though.

[timbox]

I think Ramos is a great artist for the Runaways. Skottie Young would be another good choice.

frog is correct, as usual.

[Beast]

But I love Skottie! I wish he'd finished the Beast and Pixie Rockwell style cover.
Sorry, not a fan of Skottie's work. I'm sure it will be better on the upcoming MI: Wizard of Oz.

But the man cannot draw adults. They look like teenagers.

Which is funny, cause the opposite is true of most other artists.

[Seikun21]

Sorry, not a fan of Skottie's work. I'm sure it will be better on the upcoming MI: Wizard of Oz.

But the man cannot draw adults. They look like teenagers.

Which is funny, cause the opposite is true of most other artists.

I still cannot forgive the man for making Northstar look like Hellion, and then writing both him and Anole as idiots.

[Maestro]

One Man Logan goes missing for the second month in a row... sigh

[Christopher O]

I'm sad Skottie never drew Storm.

[claimtosubclaim]

Sorry, not a fan of Skottie's work. I'm sure it will be better on the upcoming MI: Wizard of Oz.

But the man cannot draw adults. They look like teenagers.

Which is funny, cause the opposite is true of most other artists.

That's why he was drawing a book about teenagers, duh! I thought he drew a decent Kitty and Beast though. Sue me! I like the Bachalo/Young version of Beast. Don't even get me started with Ramos. His Kitty barely registered as a human (anatomy-wise), and Iceman looked like a teenager in half the panels. Ramos managed to totally screw up what could've been a really beautiful piece of comic art when Bobby free-falls from the Blackbird in X-Men #201. He draws a decent Wolverine, Cable & Mystique, and his New X-Men aren't too bad, but that's all I'll give him.

[Roo]

The Vanisher is up against a mirror that Warpath has apparently slammed him into, so the X-Force characters' faces are reflections. The hand holding the knife is Warpath's, and claws on the left belong to Laura. Logan's claws are at bottom right, and Archangel's wings are at top right.

All in all a very nice cover for X-Force in October, and this storyline sounds fantastic (which is pretty par for the course with this title).

Doi! yeah you're right, i never spotted the mirror smashing in the background

[MuhollandDriver]

You can always count on Carey for awsomeness. Anoles role in SI:X-Men sounds great. Too bad they didn't put him on the cover alongside Dazzler...if only for Novayas reaction. :tongue:



But but but...Ramos also said he's geekifying and scrawnifying Victor! When Ultron created his android teen to kill all the super heroes...why on EARTH would making it scrawny be a good idea?? Ramos should pay attention to characters histories and not just base designs on their personalities.



lol :tongue:



HA, but if I immediately step down to you then I shall offend the Pachmeister! But I like random additions to my name so...I shall now shush. :biggrin:


Anole's role in SI: X-Men? Anyone have a link?

i love Skottie Young's art. i do agree about the adults....but his style is unique and vibrant.

[4com-fiction]

Whatever happened to the Externals or the Upstarts of the Hellfire Club?

Did Selene kill both storylines?

The Upstarts was an idea by Scott Lobdell and just stopped- and the Externals was originally an overzealous idea by Rob Liefeld that Fabian Nicizea ended up making into a descent concept- That is until Marvel editors just erased the idea-

Gideon was a sweet character (best issue with him ever was New warriors 18- classic) who was mindlessly destroyed around X-force Mid # 40's by Selene.

Not to mention Sam Gunthrie should be immortal and an external and we have no progression of this

Why?

[darknessatnoon]

Not to mention Sam Gunthrie should be immortal and an external and we have no progression of this

Why?

Bishop supposedly killed him in the future in Cable, by hentaiing out his heart. But Sam obviously grew a new one a few minutes later.

[Seikun21]

Anole's role in SI: X-Men? Anyone have a link?

i love Skottie Young's art. i do agree about the adults....but his style is unique and vibrant.

He's mentioned in the solicit for the third issue.

SECRET INVASION: X-MEN #3 (of 4)
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by CARY NORD
Cover by TERRY DODSON
Emma Frost fights alone against the Skrull thought-wall and Anole goes deep behind enemy lines as the guerrilla war turns into a war of extermination. Hank McCoy searches for the secret weapon that will give the X-Men a decisive advantage: but using it may be worse than losing the war...
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

I guess being green has its advantages. Or he did the chameleon wallblending trick.

[MuhollandDriver]

He's mentioned in the solicit for the third issue.



I guess being green has its advantages. Or he did the chameleon wallblending trick.

Oh this makes me quite happy :)

i have a hunch Anole made the Young X-Men linenup. i adore him...but am not enjoying that comic so far. Mixed thing...i spose.

[drwho]

And Nothing Will Ever be the Same Again.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/colbybenge123/throw_up.jpg
Nicest way to put it without literally grossing everyone out.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

SECRET INVASION: X-MEN #3 (of 4)
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by CARY NORD
Cover by TERRY DODSON
Emma Frost fights alone against the Skrull thought-wall and Anole goes deep behind enemy lines as the guerrilla war turns into a war of extermination. Hank McCoy searches for the secret weapon that will give the X-Men a decisive advantage: but using it may be worse than losing the war...
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99

God damnit. Well, what do you know, they aren't turning Ems into Jean personality-wise. They're doing it feats-wise. I've got this feeling my fav female x-character will once again be defined/ruined by how awesome she is. Cyke might as well date 'Ro in a couple of years for the sake of things going in full circle.

But then again, in light of the previous material and the upcoming MD, I really shouldn't be surprised at the Claremontian themes. Damnit.

[DeniseXfrost]

God damnit. Well, what do you know, they aren't turning Ems into Jean personality-wise. They're doing it feats-wise. I've got this feeling my fav female x-character will once again be defined/ruined by how awesome she is. Cyke might as well date 'Ro in a couple of years for the sake of things going in full circle.

But then again, in light of the previous material and the upcoming MD, I really shouldn't be surprised at the Claremontian themes. Damnit.
She's the only telepath now and sth like a thought-wall should by dealt by a telepath.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

She's the only telepath now and sth like a thought-wall should by dealt by a telepath.

It's not as if they had Cerebra or she could call the Cuckoos for back-up...? Hell, wasn't Blindfold shielding Cyke from Ems' back in Torn?

It did NOT have to be a 'Emma standing alone against the might of the Skrull Empire' motif.

[DeniseXfrost]

It's not as if they had Cerebra or she could call the Cuckoos for back-up...?
Why should they call the Cuckoos if Emma can handle it alone?
It did NOT have to be a 'Emma standing alone against the might of the Skrull Empire' motif.
Or she just caught in the situation?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Why should they call the Cuckoos if Emma can handle it alone?

But that's the thing. *Why* would they assume she can, lol?

Hardly the most logical of Plans A

[DeniseXfrost]

But that's the thing. *Why* would they assume she can, lol?

Hardly the most logical of Plans A
OMG we're caught in a Skrull war ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG call my girls Cukoos ZOMG ZOMG and bring Blindfold too damnit!!!1

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

OMG we're caught in a Skrull war ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG call my girls Cukoos ZOMG ZOMG and bring Blindfold too damnit!!!1

Huh, yeah, that probably work better in the long run for the character. Cause then critics won't be able to use it against her. Hell, the TWO Sinister showdowns in MC...? Ring a bell? :eek:

And, oh dear, how do I put this. Careful, hon, you're turning into a Storm fan, lol. :eek:

Remember it's Ems being an unlikable b-word that made her cool, not how uber awesome she is.

[DeniseXfrost]

Huh, yeah, that probably work better in the long run for the character. Cause then critics won't be able to use it against her. Hell, the TWO Sinister showdowns in MC...? Ring a bell? :eek:

And, oh dear, how do I put this. Careful, hon, you're turning into a Storm fan, lol. :eek:

Remember it's Ems being an unlikable b-word that made her cool, not how uber awesome she is.
Ehh i think it'd be ooc for her to call her students for help in a middle of a war.

Eeww me? Storm fan?

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Ehh i think it'd be ooc for her to call her students for help in a middle of a war.

But that's the thing. Odds are she won't be in a trench or anything while fighting off the thought-wall. There's nothing wrong with asking the kiddies for help behind the frontline.

Eeww me? Storm fan?

I meant as in vehemently denying that she's pulling crazy stunts or written as way overpowered.

Here, an example.

In the not so distant future...

Narrative box: The telepathic skies smiled upon their favored child as she withstood the psychic onslaught of her wretched enemies and stood triumphant.

Darth: Noooooooooo!!! How could they do this to Emma!!!??? She was the anti-Jean/Storm!!! Noooooooooooo!!!

Denise: Relax, hon, what's the big deal about her fighting off 100+ telepaths at the same time? Sheesh.

Darth: If only it was just that!!! What about that planetary B.S.???

Denise: Oh, come on, what's wrong about brainwashing Shi'Ar planets into thinking that Vulcan was the suxor one at a time? If anything, it was an awesome plan. Which worked. Stop it with these drama issues of yours. Sheesh.

Darth: We should've started a 'Save Emma' campaign back in 2k8. Le sigh.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[DeniseXfrost]

But that's the thing. Odds are she won't be in a trench or anything while fighting off the thought-wall. There's nothing wrong with asking the kiddies for help behind the frontline.



I meant as in vehemently denying that she's pulling crazy stunts or written as way overpowered.

Here, an example.

In the not so distant future...

Narrative box: The telepathic skies smiled upon their favored child as she withstood the psychic onslaught of her wretched enemies and stood triumphant.

Darth: Noooooooooo!!! How could they do this to Emma!!!??? She was the anti-Jean/Storm!!! Noooooooooooo!!!

Denise: Relax, hon, what's the big deal about her fighting off 100+ telepaths at the same time? Sheesh.

Darth: If only it was just that!!! What about that planetary B.S.???

Denise: Oh, come on, what's wrong about brainwashing Shi'Ar planets into thinking that Vulcan was the suxor one at a time? If anything, it was an awesome plan. Which worked. Stop it with these drama issues of yours. Sheesh.

Darth: We should've started a 'Save Emma' campaign back in 2k8. Le sigh.

:eek: :eek: :eek:
Drama issues :mad:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Drama issues :mad:

Well, at least I embrace them, lol. Made it quite clear I don't wanna go through the Storm trauma again. :tongue:

Still, it really doesn't look like it's gonna get better on the 'I am still a character rather than a quasi-Goddess' front.

[DeniseXfrost]

Well, at least I embrace them, lol. Made it quite clear I don't wanna go through the Storm trauma again. :tongue:

Still, it really doesn't look like it's gonna get better on the 'I am still a character rather than a quasi-Goddess' front.
Ehh Emma's been laying low for a while now....Scott is always the one who makes every little decision.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Ehh Emma's been laying low for a while now....Scott is always the one who makes every little decision.

POWERS-wise, damnit. Which I've only said several times, lol. :tongue:

[DeniseXfrost]

POWERS-wise, damnit. Which I've only said several times, lol. :tongue:
Double standard! :mad:

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Double standard! :mad:

Right. Illuminaughty...? :eek:

And I made it clear since the first post that this was about being overPOWERED.

I mean, that'd be like complaining about Nick Fury being sickly overpowered because he was calling the shots at S.H.I.E.L.D. Not quite the same thing. Like, AT ALL. In any whatsoever relevant way. :tongue:

Look, all I'm saying is that I just don't trust the current crop of x-writers to not ruin her. Write great stories, sure. But keep her grounded powes-wise? Doesn't look like it.

[DeniseXfrost]

Right. Illuminaughty...? :eek:

And I made it clear since the first post that this was about being overPOWERED.

I mean, that'd be like complaining about Nick Fury being sickly overpowered because he was calling the shots at S.H.I.E.L.D. Not quite the same thing. Like, AT ALL. In any whatsoever relevant way. :tongue:

Look, all I'm saying is that I just don't trust the current crop of x-writers to not ruin her. Write great stories, sure. But keep her grounded powes-wise? Doesn't look like it.
You're just jealousssssssssssssss that Cyke never did anything useful and creative with his power anymore.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

You're just jealousssssssssssssss that Cyke never did anything useful and creative with his power anymore.

Actually, it's one of the things I love the most about his powerset, lol. Which I've said several times. The one-pony trick motif.

Cause people can't complain about how convoluted/out-of-place it is in a team book and then I can go on about how anti-Claremontian it is. It's pure awesome. :biggrin:

[DeniseXfrost]

Actually, it's one of the things I love the most about his powerset, lol. Which I've said several times. The one-pony trick motif.

Cause people can't complain about how convoluted/out-of-place it is in a team book and then I can go on about how anti-Claremontian it is. It's pure awesome. :biggrin:
Ehh I like how he used his power during the Proteus saga.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Ehh I like how he used his power during the Proteus saga.

How did this turn into...? :biggrin:

All I'm saying is I'm real worried for Ems' cred as a character that wasn't mostly defined by how strong her powers are. The anti-Ems-as-a-psychic-deus-ex-machina movement did gain some momentum ever since MC and I just don't see it stopping any time soon. Won't be joining the revolution for a while, but I totally see where they're coming from and am worried the x-office doesn't.

I mean, Quesada goes on about Jean being overpowered, but Storm then pulls that Destiny stunt and Ems' fights off Sinister from across the globe and #500's planetary psychic conference call

They *say* they've learned lessons from it, but they totally haven't, lol.

[Hi-Fi]

The Cuckoos WILL be there, actually. I think.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

The Cuckoos WILL be there, actually. I think.

God I hope so.

[Ogre U AHole]

Manifest Destiny's blurb mentions Iceman, Emma, and Boom Boom. Nobody else. That's it. Awesome and win.

Greg Land's tracings this month are Claudia Schiffer and I believe Neve Campbell. I know I've seen them both before in the old newsarama "Land is a hack" thread, but with different costumes.

X-Factor + Darwin = me excited about X-Factor

Young X-Men's new line-up is hopefully sans Ink and Wolfcub. Not a fan. Perhaps Mercury and Nezhno join up? Pretty please.

Hay-soos Christ, Wolverine gets his own Manifest Destiny mini? Ugh. Oh hay, it's got something to do with his mysterious past. Shocker. Double ugh.

I might be skipping Legacy for the first time.

I really want to protest Way's Deadpool but... it's freaking Deadpool. And I like Paco Medina's work. Torn.