Namor the Submariner?

[Gaul Jard]

Surely someone here has read the 2003 miniseries "Namor", based on Prince Namor the Submariner?

Is he awesome? He looks kind of uh, well, to be honest, gay (sorry, thinking out loud - and yep, I know he was a superhero before Namor 2003).
Yet there's covers like this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/NAMOR1cover-CMYKcrop.jpg) where I can't help but wet myself.

I'd like to hear any personal thoughts you have to offer about the 2003 set itself.

Thanks duders.

[brundlefly]

Surely someone here has read the 2003 miniseries "Namor", based on Prince Namor the Submariner?

Is he awesome? He looks kind of uh, well, to be honest, gay (sorry, thinking out loud - and yep, I know he was a superhero before Namor 2003).
Yet there's covers like this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/NAMOR1cover-CMYKcrop.jpg) where I can't help but wet myself.

I'd like to hear any personal thoughts you have to offer about the 2003 set itself.

Thanks duders.

Is that the one that Bill Jemas wrote? Because if so, that's why I skipped it. I dig Namor (who is awesome, btw), but Jemas is an absolutely terrible writer. I'll let someone who actually read that thing confirm, but I suspect that it was crap.

I did like Namor's more recent 2007 miniseries, though. I would recommend that one, if you're looking for a Namor mini to read. Plus Namor had his own ongoing title for a while back in the 60s/70s, too.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9272/submariner67rq4.jpg

[HeckBoy]

When you think about it, if Namor had a more altruistic/positive personality (which I realize would negate a lot of the reasons why people enjoy the character and his haughty personality), he might've been the Marvel "Super Man." I mean, he's superstrong and a triple threat (Sea Air Land) w/ a a couple aces (his nebulous "fish"-related powers) up his non-existent sleeves. I don't know, it's just always something I've been thinking about.

[Gaul Jard]

I didn't even know Namor had a 2007 series, I thought the 2003 miniseries was the most recent publications that involved him. Where can I find that?

[brundlefly]

I didn't even know Namor had a 2007 series, I thought the 2003 miniseries was the most recent publications that involved him. Where can I find that?

Amazon, for one:

http://www.amazon.com/Sub-Mariner-Revolution-Marvel-Comics-Civil/dp/078512747X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216409463&sr=8-1

You can probably get some of his older 60s/70s adventures (collected in the 'Marvel Masterworks' trades) there, as well.

[cosmoboy]

You should pick up the John Byrne Namor, the Sub-Mariner books. He wrote that one till isue 30-something. I have them somewhere and I remember liking them. I was also young and stupid in the 90's and Marvel didn't have a hard time selling me anything.

[Thursaiz]

Namor is, by far, one of Marvel's greatest achievements. His costumes are...well...a tad strange, but the character is fantastic.

The 2007 series was great, and I can't wait to see what becomes of the events at the end.

[brundlefly]

You should pick up the John Byrne Namor, the Sub-Mariner books. He wrote that one till isue 30-something. I have them somewhere and I remember liking them. I was also young and stupid in the 90's and Marvel didn't have a hard time selling me anything.

True, I forgot about Byrne's Namor. I have some issues from his run and they're really good.

[Gaul Jard]

Amazon, for one:

http://www.amazon.com/Sub-Mariner-Revolution-Marvel-Comics-Civil/dp/078512747X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216409463&sr=8-1

You can probably get some of his older 60s/70s adventures (collected in the 'Marvel Masterworks' trades) there, as well.

Geh, I must have typoed or something and not realized when I searched on Amazon. Thanks for that.

[mdg1]

When you think about it, if Namor had a more altruistic/positive personality (which I realize would negate a lot of the reasons why people enjoy the character and his haughty personality), he might've been the Marvel "Super Man." I mean, he's superstrong and a triple threat (Sea Air Land) w/ a a couple aces (his nebulous "fish"-related powers) up his non-existent sleeves. I don't know, it's just always something I've been thinking about.

If Namor had a more altruistic character, he'd be Aquaman....

I always liked the fact that, whether his motives were benign or malevolent, Namor was _always_ a bit of a prick. Namor's problem isn't his personality, I think.

It's that he's a king. And kings don't have the luxury of going out and having adventures, unless he's been dethroned. But when that happens (and it always does), it's only a matter of time before he regains the throne, and the cycle starts again.

The most common way to avoid this trap is to make the book political (see Priest's Pather run, and many recent Aquaman titles) but that tends to limit the opportunities for action.

Unless you go the "King Conan" route, as Larry Hama famously explained to Priest:

King Conan, when asked about his foreign policy, stoops and draws a line in the dirt. "Cross that line and I'll kill you. THAT's my foreign policy."


I don't think they'll do that with Namor. :D

[B. Kuwanger]

Namor is my favorite comic character, and although it was almost the complete opposite of what he was about, I thought Byrne's run was brilliant. The 2007 series was pretty cool, set up a nice, dark period for the character.

[Mississippienne]

Is he awesome? He looks kind of uh, well, to be honest, gay (sorry, thinking out loud - and yep, I know he was a superhero before Namor 2003).
Yet there's covers like this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/NAMOR1cover-CMYKcrop.jpg) where I can't help but wet myself.

WTF? If Namor were gay, he'd still be awesome. In fact, Namor could be straight, gay, bisexual, or trysexual, and nobody would dare say a damn thing about it to him. Reed Richard can barely muster the stones to glare furiously at him whenever Namor frenches his wife.

[Gaul Jard]

I just got finished reading the 2007 Namor series - pretty kickass, if I do say so myself. Thanks for the recommendation, guys.