Hellboy II The Golden Army!!! (with spoilers)

[SpydaWeb]

I thought the review was fine. He did miss the mark on that naming bit, but the rest of the review is actually a big cheer for the film. You just have to look passed the fact that he wasn't paying very close attention to the details.

Writers often make some missteps. I just attempted to correct an AICN writer on his Hellboy 2 review where he says that he hated the too-CGI Hellboy Jr.

[prior40]

I agree that the review was pretty positive, he just didn't pay enough attention to know that Hellboy is his name. Other than that, I think the review was fairly good.

[Rob.H]

I watched this the other night with the Del Toro Q&A thing after. I think that I was maybe expecting way too much from the film and was left slightly disappointed. Nevertheless, I thought it was fun and the action was great. I'll probably give it another watch when it comes out.

[Jake Capps]

I was only talking about the name thing.

[jackups]

I got back from finally seeing it in the UK, and im feeling abit meh about it.
I mean i dident really see Comic HB at all, he's not that jokey.
May need to re-watch to look it more and more like the first 1.

probs post a better review when ive thought about it abit more.

[prior40]

You have 2 remember that the comic version and the movie version are 2 different beasts (pun intended). Unfortunately comic book movies typically have to veer away from the source material to serve a broader audience, and I think that this movie succeeded in that respect. After watching it a few times, just like the first movie, I've come to love it more than after the first time I saw it. Although, I absolutely loved it after seeing it the first time, so I am a bit biased.

[Mack]

I watched it for a third time a couple days ago and it keeps getting progressively better for me each time :cool:

[gdeo]

it the U.K.'s turn to supprt the movie this week...enjoy it y'all ,it's worth the wait!!!:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[Myron L]

Finally got to watch the new film...and I LOVE it !! ...nothing was more terrifying than watching HB and Abe get blitzed and sing Barry Mannilow !

LMAO!

[Angilas-Man]

The film has apparently made 100 million wordwide and in some places it was just released (like in Great Britian) and in others it won't open untill October. So it has already made about a million more than HB1 made in it's entire worldwide theatrical run. Hopefully we can get some impressive DVD sales like we did with the first one....


I want an HB3 is what I'm sayin'!

[InAdia]

The film has apparently made 100 million wordwide and in some places it was just released (like in Great Britian) and in others it won't open untill October. So it has already made about a million more than HB1 made in it's entire worldwide theatrical run. Hopefully we can get some impressive DVD sales like we did with the first one....


I want an HB3 is what I'm sayin'!

Then hope for powerful DVD sales and that The Hobbit makes a bloody ton of dosh at the box office....oh, and keep reading the comics.

The Real Inadia

[MarisaSmith]

Then hope for powerful DVD sales and that The Hobbit makes a bloody ton of dosh at the box office....oh, and keep reading the comics.

The Real Inadia

Yeah, I don't think there will be a problem with the Hobbit.

But definately hope that it does well in the UK box office, and on DVD...

[The Lobster]

Hellboy II was GREAT!!! Although anyone having problems with the figures? My Abe Sapien's joints are loose, and stiff, and the scanner he came with i accidentally thought was a twist tie...........Time to glue....:frown:

[MarisaSmith]

Hellboy II was GREAT!!! Although anyone having problems with the figures? My Abe Sapien's joints are loose, and stiff, and the scanner he came with i accidentally thought was a twist tie...........Time to glue....:frown:

Which figures? The Mezco ones?
I know I bought several different ones at SDCC, and I have still yet to open most of them, but the ones that I have opened are fine.
Now, those little QEE... Yeah, that's a whole other issue...:cool:

[jackups]

Well hopefully HB2 will gain alittle bit of dosh while its in the U.K. Batman has died down quite abit and there isnt really anything that good showing in the mean time, that will draw a big box office crowd.

The film seems to have grown on me somewhat just thinking about it, its helped with a interview on IGN where Del Toro descibes the films as diffrent tones, the first being pulpish and the second being the more comedy orientated one.
It just seems more of a fun popcorn ride than the first.

lol though as with all things theres just the little things that take me out of the film, mostly just the song that is played when HB is blown out the window(and thats about as bad as my nitpicks get lol)

[InAdia]

Hellboy II was GREAT!!! Although anyone having problems with the figures? My Abe Sapien's joints are loose, and stiff, and the scanner he came with i accidentally thought was a twist tie...........Time to glue....:frown:

Yeah the figures have been hit or miss this time around. While Mr. Wink is a gorgeous piece; Johnann is no slouch either; other figures such as Abe and to a lesser extent Liz, suffer from incredibly loose joints that make them difficult to pose. I haven't picked up Prince Nuada yet so I don't know the verdict on him. When its all said and done I am far more interested in wave 2 and the Deluxe Angel of Death *drools*.

The Real Inadia

[MarisaSmith]

I haven't picked up Prince Nuada yet so I don't know the verdict on him.

My ex has Nuada, and he hasn't mentioned anything as of yet (joint-wise) but he likes the detail, etc. And it is very nice...:smile:

[InAdia]

I love Nuada, and wish there were more room in the Hellboy Universe for him. Of all the summer blockbuster films he was one of two antagonists that really drew me in, Heath Ledger's portrayal of The Joker being the other. His voice just resonates with me. He and Walton did a marvelous job of conveying emotion through all of the makeup. All of the villains in all the other comic films felt stock at best.

The Real Inadia

[MarisaSmith]

I love Nuada, and wish there were more room in the Hellboy Universe for him. Of all the summer blockbuster films he was one of two antagonists that really drew me in, Heath Ledger's portrayal of The Joker being the other. His voice just resonates with me. He and Walton did a marvelous job of conveying emotion through all of the makeup. All of the villains in all the other comic films felt stock at best.

The Real Inadia

YES! Agreed on all points! And Nuada had much to bring to the development of Hellboy's character in the movie. Really, that's why I liked him... He got Hellboy thinking (which is really hard to do for the movie character:wink: ).

[Angilas-Man]

^I always saw movie Hellboy as the more inexperienced 1950s HB from the comics. You know, who looses just as much as he wins in the short stories.

[jimm]

http://i38.tinypic.com/29utudi.jpg

[Buslady]

yeah and it's supposed to come out in October I think.

But I've already preordered by birthday present to myself....hopefully it comes in October..no idea!
(https://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=8941)

:P

So maybe for xmas I'll get that!

Oh yeah watched it for the 5th time yesterady...now it's in the cheapie screens, a whole $2 each. whheeee!

[DoctorVonBracken]

so my fiance and me saw it last night for the first time, and i loved it, i gotta say the bit where he falls out the window threw me a bit but i could just see del toro laughing at our response to it

also i loved having more time on screen with abe, doug jones you are a legend

i just love the way that you can be watching a del toro movie with 100 other strangers and still feel like he made the movie just for you

and the baby/tumour was comedy gold!

and liz really came into her own, in the first film i thought she was a tad wimpy but she was perfect in this!

and johann was brilliant

and the troll market is where i wanna live

and the angel of death was immense

and well i think you get it, i loved the movie

[Paperghost]

Wow you must be really young.
They had a couple of hits in the early 90s but they are more well known for the brothers fighting and there hard to understand cockney accents.

Mancunian accents, they're from Manchester :)

as for hellboy, i enjoyed number two a lot more than the first one.

[Kees_L]

possible Spoiler alert (for some Europeans and total slackers...) !
Finally saw it last night and loved it. It seems to me GDT (and all) really tried to fully translate the Hellboy comic coolness onto the big screen with HB2, with even the deep and accurate mythological feel (especially the blooming elemental or forest god for me serves this purpose). All the love interest and the over-the-top take on the BPRD I found not at all distracting or distasteful.
Plot-wise I may have to ponder the notions of the Angel of Death (does its coming mean HB to never bring about Armageddon?) both as the offspring bit: I cannot see any need for that or good to come of it but yeah, I hope we are to see the end of it :biggrin:. Loved Johann too, enough to immediately accept how his ectoplasm can work machinery.
Points of criticism would be kiddy Hellboy coming across rather wussy (too wussy and too human for my taste) and the puppet intro should for me have been more of a puppet show, preferably with marionettes (those Polish dolls). Other than that: great flick, I might just go and watch the Dark Knight without being intimidated one bit.

[Damascinos]

A question for all the model/figure/statue geeks in the house: what is your guess as to the materials and construction of that Golden Army statue in the box set? Depending on its quality, I might just spring for that sucker!

[CBM]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLQ43337620080826

[Robo Ape]

Seen this now, good film, I liked the fact that it was a good deal more light-hearted than something like the Dark Knight.

Good acting & good script but the most outstanding thing was the visuals & the imagination that had gone into them.

[Asa]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLQ43337620080826

I love it, awsome news ,and I can see it going great in the U.K.:biggrin:

[InAdia]

That is great news, especially for someone like me, who felt The Dark Knight was all balls and no heart. I am glad that Mike and Guillermo's esoteric work is getting the attention it deserves.

The Real Inadia

[MarisaSmith]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLQ43337620080826

Yes, I believe this was the sign I needed... Moving to London now....:biggrin:
Such good news! Now let's hope it keeps this spot for a few weeks!!!!

And this is also good news since the Pound Sterling is worth twice as much as the US Dollar... Mmmmm... Inflation....:wink:


P.S. Why was this info not on the BBC website? They post their box office hits every week in the Entertainment section! And I read it (the UK version) at least 5 times a day! What is up with that?! They totally forgot to cover this! And don't get me started on The Guardian!

[MarisaSmith]

Why was this info not on the BBC website?

Oh gee... Look what started making the rounds today!
Finally!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7584146.stm

[Buslady]

that proves they released HBII at a crappy time here in the US. THey should have waited a month after Batbrains and then throw it on us and it'd kicked it off the top 5 at least. Bats is 4 right now, HB would have slaughtered it if it was released now for Labor Day w/e.

Good to know it's kicking butt in the UK!

[Mermaid]

HB finally got released here yesterday! I get to see it at last tomorrow! WOOT!! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

[Bigred93]

this is why i wanna move to london.

[camera73]

Seen this now, good film, I liked the fact that it was a good deal more light-hearted than something like the Dark Knight.

Good acting & good script but the most outstanding thing was the visuals & the imagination that had gone into them.

I disliked the movie for precisely this reason. The Hellboy books are rarely this light-hearted. Hellboy was always more of the strong silent type. He was never seen cracking up, for example.

It would have been more successful as a horror, IMO. I don't mean Exorcist or Saw. More like Blade, which had humor, but they weren't trying to throw a one-liner in every couple of seconds. And the song, just lost me. I am happy that so many people did enjoy the movie, because it gives them another chance to get it right.

I agree, however that the visuals were where the fun was at. They did a great job.

[Kees_L]

I disliked the movie for precisely this reason. The Hellboy books are rarely this light-hearted. Hellboy was always more of the strong silent type. He was never seen cracking up, for example.

It would have been more successful as a horror, IMO. I don't mean Exorcist or Saw. More like Blade, which had humor, but they weren't trying to throw a one-liner in every couple of seconds. And the song, just lost me. I am happy that so many people did enjoy the movie, because it gives them another chance to get it right.

I agree, however that the visuals were where the fun was at. They did a great job.

In HB2 I saw the characters at times get light-hearted, frisky (Abe with the straps), love-stricken and tanked up even, while in the midst of having to deal with pissed-of monsters, with folk from under the earth... For me that rather hits the mark, although it'll be a movie so it'll be hasty, solidified hintings on pages and pages of Hellboy coolness, pages which can be digested at their own pace.
MM for me usually writes in such a blunt no-nonsense approach (similar to HB's tone), an approach which may also be found in the old pulps (anti-literature?), like to say: "don't let the faeries fool ya, there's gonna be sh!t hitting fans".
In this sense HB2 (for me) also provides a contemporary alternative to Lord of the Rings movie-wise: mythology and elementals and stuff, seriously worked out / thoroughly understood (I love how the forest god blooms but in death), without getting geeky, without remaining serious all the time. Look at Professor Bruttenholm, be it in HB1, HB2 or the comics: he's not very serious, more like 'ever ready to be amazed further'.
And, some light-heartedness of the protagonists may make surroundings darker I say. Like how I felt to see some light-heartedness in Batman Begins (in the Knight / bruce himself). From what I hear, Heath Ledger managed to translate something like Dave Mckeans' Arkham Asylum horror into the mix. Maybe HB doesn't need that, since he makes for such an outlandish folklore-noir compellant satre already :smile:.

[XhellFan]

WOW that was a really bad film. Bad script. Most of the characters were REALLY forced. It was like a lot of them had suddenly lost their acting ability.

Enjoyed the first film. Liked the comic when it was Mignola on art. Love BPRD with Guy Davis. Loved Pan's Labrinth.

But Hellboy 2 feels like George Lucas directed it.

Nice FX and shots, but nice FX and shots are not enough for good story telling, or a good film. This film didn't have any of the heart of the first film.

It felt like everyone was trying so hard that a lot of them lost the feeling of genuine credible characters.

Most of the jokes were obvious, hollow and not that funny.

There was no mystery, or suspense to this film. It never felt like Hellboy was ever torn between two major choices that he had to struggle with. It felt like watching an episode of scooby doo, where everything was laid out so conveniently. "lets go to point A.....oh look, now we go to point B........heya! no we go to point C."

The music wasn't as good as the first film. Even the music felt forced and obvious. Cut and paste for each scene.

Every now and then, I can sit through the first Hellboy DVD and still find it entertaining.

But I won't even buy or hire Hellboy 2. I never need to see that film again.

You could cut all the shots up and turn it into a really cool music video. But that's not what I paid to see. I wish I could get a refund. I want those hours of my life back.

Maybe Hellboy should review the film:

"Oh.....crap"

[camera73]

WOW that was a really bad film. Bad script. Most of the characters were REALLY forced. It was like a lot of them had suddenly lost their acting ability.

Enjoyed the first film. Liked the comic when it was Mignola on art. Love BPRD with Guy Davis. Loved Pan's Labrinth.

But Hellboy 2 feels like George Lucas directed it.

Nice FX and shots, but nice FX and shots are not enough for good story telling, or a good film. This film didn't have any of the heart of the first film.

Its funny that you say that - I saw Clone Wars right after seeing Golden Army, and there were very few differences. Lots of action with tons of one-liners and witty banter. Too much to imbue the characters with any kind of serious tone that would have given gravity to their circumstances.

I wouldn't go as far as asking for my money back, but I just hope that MM is getting his fair share.

[prior40]

I want those hours of my life back. :confused: I guess we're all entitled to our own opinions. A lot of people weren't thrilled with the movie the first time they saw it, but were happier with it the 2nd time around. Perhaps a 2nd viewing would benefit you too?

[XhellFan]

:confused: I guess we're all entitled to our own opinions. A lot of people weren't thrilled with the movie the first time they saw it, but were happier with it the 2nd time around. Perhaps a 2nd viewing would benefit you too?

You maybe right. But it might backfire also.

A second sitting of HellboyII The Golden Shower, might just leave a VERY bad taste in my mouth.

[CBM]

You maybe right. But it might backfire also.

A second sitting of HellboyII The Golden Shower, might just leave a VERY bad taste in my mouth.
you are certainly entitled to your opinion but maybe you should be respectful of others opinions...or not be so foul...we get your point!

[jnapper]

A second sitting of HellboyII The Golden Shower, might just leave a VERY bad taste in my mouth.

* Everyone, this is a note to XhellFan-- please, do not reply or comment on this note. *

XhellFan, since you have disabled emails and PMs, I guess I will need to write this note here...

P.R., that was nasty and bad form.

It's been a year since your 'bovine' comments upset people here. I do not have the patience to deal with these upsetting posts anymore. Please do not post on this forum again... under any username.

[gdeo]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/09/09/mike-mignola-on-singing-hellboy-and-guillermo-del-toros-story-decisions/

[SpydaWeb]

If I can be frank. I wish Mignola had pulled the reins in a little on the sequel.

[Jake Capps]

You can't be frank enough!

[gdeo]

you can't be "frank"...you're Maurice:tongue:

[siamese goat]

I am in total agreement on reigning it in. I understand you have to make some changes to make it audience friendly but some scenes were a bit overboard. I was also not impressed by the "cantina scene" sensory overkill for just one scene; all that was missing was droids and hobbits.

[Todd H]

Yeah there were definately some scenes that took it way to far. The more I think about the movie the more I realize that you could substitute the characters in the film with any random fantasy creature and have it turn out the same. It's just not Hellboy in my opinion.

I like Mike's take on what he would have done for the troll market scene.

Ah well.

[hellboyone]

It's just not Hellboy in my opinion.


Sure it is. It's movie Hellboy, through and through.

[Neil Hill]

Sure it is. It's movie Hellboy, through and through.

Good point, Rick. Neither Mike or Guillermo have made any secret about the fact that the two universes are separate for each creator utilizing the same character. Mike may not have done 90% of the things in the first Hellboy movie, and yet all of it worked one way or another. Personally, I like the different interpretations of Hellboy and it helps to even further separate that character from Mike's comic version the more different and interesting that it is.

[Buslady]

And variety is the spice of life.

[lobster_johnson]

as much as i liked the film, i just think there was too much comedy. i wanted the film to be much, much darker. in the same kind of tone as pans labyrinth. it wasn't the film i was hoping for.

[MarisaSmith]

Sure it is. It's movie Hellboy, through and through.


Good point, Rick. Neither Mike or Guillermo have made any secret about the fact that the two universes are separate for each creator utilizing the same character. Mike may not have done 90% of the things in the first Hellboy movie, and yet all of it worked one way or another. Personally, I like the different interpretations of Hellboy and it helps to even further separate that character from Mike's comic version the more different and interesting that it is.

My sentiment exactly!

[SpydaWeb]

Sheesh. Seems I've woken a sleeping monster again.

Look, I loved most of the film and I've been vocal about the other parts, but I don't think you can deny that the general audience seems to have felt much the same as I did.

I believe this over indulgence in the characterizations of characters was the initial catalyst that caused audiences both not to come back to the film in subsequent weeks and not to recommend it to their friends. You can blame DK only so much.

I've seen the film multiple times in theaters and with a different crowd each time. With the exception of one person (that's 1/10 people) the rest would not have recommended the film to others. They didn't hate the film, but they thought it got silly or overly sappy at times. The first film did this, but handled it more deftly IMO. I wouldn't necessarily have ejected the scenes I have issues with, but I think more subtle deliveries would have helped.

End of the day though, this is GDT and MM world and movie. They can do whatever the hell they want to do in and with it. All this was, is an often too vocal fanboy's opinion. I want this series to succeed as much as anyone and I just happen to have a different [opinion] on the matter.

btw, I loved the troll market scene and wish they'd stayed there the rest of the movie. I didn't think they built the market nearly big enough. :biggrin:

[Kees_L]

Sheesh. Seems I've woken a sleeping monster again.

Well, monsters are agreeable (of course).
But I sort of feel I can trust GDT for deciding what to work best for this particular BPRD-team, you know? Filmmaking will be designing and scripting but rather spur-of-moment (re-)deciding too unavoidably. I really think (with a HB3 for rounding it up), the movie world will see a grand and splendid take on what a movie Hellboy can look like (which can even hold his own in today's & tomorrow's Hollywoody popularized cinema).
And a very different take I much prefer to a reconstruction. No-one should try that. Mignola already makes Hellboy and that works for me. Big-time :smile:.

[Ambassador Curt]

I have no complaints about the movies. They are gold as far as I concerned. But like everyone else is saying, don't go confusing them with the comics.

[Angilas-Man]

Comic Hellboy has traveled the world, movie Hellboy has been couped-up in his room listening to Tom Waits, eating, working out, eating, watching old movies, ect.

I think it's perfectly natural that he would be a bit more stunted at age 12.

[Jake Capps]

Comic Hellboy has traveled the world, movie Hellboy has been couped-up in his room listening to Tom Waits, eating, working out, eating, watching old movies, ect.

I think it's perfectly natural that he would be a bit more stunted at age 12.

Nailed it! One scene in Hellboy II that bugged me is when he's watching TV, and laughing...it's like he's got no neck. It's just bizarre!

[Neil Hill]

The film that immediately jumped to mind during the first 30 minutes of HB II was Men in Black. The first HB film did not strive for that vein and therefore I feel worked better differentiating itself from other films of its ilk, however, the second one really cranked up the Men in Black factor (comedy interspersed with the strange and unusual). Now, had this been MIB III I wouldn't have taken issue with it, but it wasn't that film, it was Hellboy. Did it work or didn't it? I suppose each of us will have our own answer for that question, naturally. For me, it worked in some ways and not others and I'm fine with that.

Someone mentioned both films being gold to them, and that's fine. For me, neither film was gold and didn't really capture the Hellboy I know and love, but again, I'm perfectly okay with Hellboy looking and feeling different each new time he appears on screen. As long as the Hellboy I know and love in the comic remains true to his heart and soul, that's where my true concern lies. The movie and TV stuff? That's just gravy to me. If it works, I'm happy. If it doesn't, I'm okay with that to.

[Jake Capps]

I see a lot of MIB in Hellboy II. What were those monsters even doing in the BPRD at the beginning? Was there a story element that I missed?

[gdeo]

oh my goodness...i've created a thread monster:tongue: ...i always wondered about the whole song choice thingy,and MTV did a good job at finding out....but i didn't think this thread would turn out to be a "what i disliked about HBII..."thread.:frown: sorry folks:redface:

[Jake Capps]

Gary I loved the movie, and everyone involved...it's better than any of the Hellboy movies I made. I think of it like StarWars...people love it, and the love to pick at it to death.

[jimm]

My only complaint about the movie was not enuff golden army. And the fact that there hasn't been any figures made of them yet

[jnapper]

Not that it started out as a review thread, but I am merging this to the review thread. :)

[mattmanw54301]

I think it's good that we are such a tight fandom. Most arguments like this with other fandoms would have degenerated into flame wars by now. But not us. We're more laid back than that. Peace, brothers and sisters. It's all good.

[Mack]

Almost 50 million over the budget worldwide.... that's got to be enough to green light the sequel. Then there's also the $$$ from the upcoming DVD release.... so how about Winter 2012 or Summer 2013?

[MarisaSmith]

Almost 50 million over the budget worldwide.... that's got to be enough to green light the sequel. Then there's also the $$$ from the upcoming DVD release.... so how about Winter 2012 or Summer 2013?

I'd like winter 2012, preferably before the world ends. :wink: :biggrin: :tongue: LOL.

In all honesty, I'd take any time... Just so long as it happens. It'd just be terrible to leave it as is without a resolution.:frown:

[MarisaSmith]

Yes, well, I went to see the final, final showing, and I've got to say, it's as fun as it was first time around as the last time...
Next up... DVD!

And thank goodness I don't have to teach tomorrow... Soooo late...

[MarisaSmith]

Yes, well, I went to see the final, final showing, and I've got to say, it's as fun as it was first time around as the last time...
Next up... DVD!

And thank goodness I don't have to teach tomorrow... Soooo late...

[Ivar_L]

I found a website for a Polish artist, with several Hellby II posters. The one with a cat is pretty funny... :)
Looks like they scroll in random order, I've seen 4 Hellboys so far...
http://www.tomasz-opasinski.com/tao_keyart/index.html

[Ivar_L]

Weird, I can see my previous post only when I'm making another replay...

[Jakob Westman]

It opened in Sweden this friday and I got to see a sneak preview screening on tuesday last week.

I was really worried that I'd not like it.
I wasn't all that thrilled with the first movie, and when I compare it to Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth it makes me a bit sad when I see what it could have been.

I'll give HB2 a 3/5 rating.
Or 3+.

For me it was too much X-Men and not enough X-Files.
Too much Men in Black and not enough Hellboy. I wished it had been creepier and more low-key.

For me the hi-lights were the doll-puppets sequence, the look of the elves and everything with Johann Krauss. That was amazing! I realize Johann was neither low-key OR creepy. So it could sound contrary to what I was wishing for above, but it was still great.

The low-points for me were young Hellboy (what's up with the rabbit teeth?), the way the Troll market felt like the Mos Eisley Cantina and how Abe had turned 100% into C3PO.

Also, why didn't any of the other agents intervene when the prince almost killed Hellboy?
Wierd.

The epilogue mentioned in the Art of Hellboy 2 book would've been amazing though.
I would've had goose bumps all over my body.

/ Jakob

PS. The audience seemed to really enjoy it.
It got applause as the credits rolled.

[Libaax]

For me it was too much X-Men and not enough X-Files.
Too much Men in Black and not enough Hellboy. I wished it had been creepier and more low-key.



That sums my view on it too. I didnt expect it too be X-Files spooky or as dark or horror like as the comic but it tried way too hard to be funny. Way too much Men in Black.....

The romantic story was melodramatic too.

I saw it yesterday(here in Uppsala,Sweden).

The plus side was the stunning visual,more fantastic story with the goblins,elves(although i rather see anything but elves in HB) and HB himself was pretty cool despite being too much of comic.


Shame the director of Pans couldnt have made it darker,more serious instead of comic action movie.

[Greg Anderson]

What was the epilogue mentioned in the Art of Hellboy 2?

[mattmanw54301]

The epilogue, which will be an animated comic on the DVD, features a snowy return in Antartica, as Rasputin returns, most likely in spirit form, and speaks with Kroenen, who is in fact now a head in a jar.

[Greg Anderson]

The epilogue, which will be an animated comic on the DVD, features a snowy return in Antartica, as Rasputin returns, most likely in spirit form, and speaks with Kroenen, who is in fact now a head in a jar.

Oh my! :eek:

[Angilas-Man]

^...and the Zinco corporation is revealed to be in league with them.

[fcjk]

Hey, is there a thread about the upcoming DVD releases? http://photo-shack.com/img/61b4a64be663682e8cb037d9719ad8cd.gif I couldnt see one .. I'm lost ;) Wanna know what versions there are + whats on them :)

FC.

[Asa]

Hey, is there a thread about the upcoming DVD releases? http://photo-shack.com/img/61b4a64be663682e8cb037d9719ad8cd.gif I couldnt see one .. I'm lost ;) Wanna know what versions there are + whats on them :)

FC.

I beleive there are two threads, I located this one .http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=235311

[Hellboy_is_cool_indeed]

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[gdeo]

L.O.V.E.D. I.T.!!!
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how's that ,jake?:tongue: :redface: :wink:

[Hellboy_is_cool_indeed]

oh and I went with the "......." because I hate to be negative.

As an artist myself I believe everyones work has great value, and who am I to critique it.

It's just that, for me, the movie found its most strength in its amazing and incredible visuals and the e-comic in the bonus features.

Thoughts?

[Kees_L]

Thoughts?

I could see the Men In Black-humor-complaint if that is what you mean. Doesn't offend me.
(I actually thought / feared maybe you were 11 years old and dead serious about Willie :smile:)
I think Del Toro translated Hellboy from the comics onto the big screen. And for me, he conveyed what Hellboy is or can be - with HB2 maybe even more so than with HB1. I love how HB2 is more folktale-like or magical at times, like the comics.
But I think HB2 is broader in other aspects too: perhaps Johann and the BPRD’s inner workings might appeal to people not quite warmed up to Hellboy’s ‘un-average-ness’. I don’t mind that. After my first viewing any loudness or slapstick in the humour felt far less conspicuous, to say maybe annoyance as such might derive from expectation both as ‘fan fear’.
Not so thrilling I found to be young Hellboy (tooth-faerie boyscout) and I fail to see the point of proposed babybooming. Details. The love relationships I don’t mind, as those strike me as ‘basic Hollywood procedure’.

[Hellboy_is_cool_indeed]

Visually the film is stunning. Jaw-droppingly beautiful.

I was expecting the Golden army to wage war, but all they did was bump around a bit like weeble wobbles.

And the prince had SO much promise, but in the end, he didn't seem evil at all.

And Abe's, well abe didn't seem like a fish out of water anymore.

Also, The head BPRD guy seemed totally different than the first. I would have liked to see him become a father figure for Red.

Maybe i'm asking for too much.

Still a lovely fill for the eyes.

[Kees_L]

Visually the film is stunning. Jaw-droppingly beautiful.

It's just that it is way way too fast. And Hellboy and Liz just didn't seem well, like hellboy and Liz. I was expecting the Golden army to wage war, but all they did was bump around a bit like weeble wobbles.

The Golden Army was introduced as indestructable from the beginning. Still they got nibbed in the budd - quite niftily at that.


And the prince had SO much promise, but in the end, he didn't seem evil at all.

For me he was evil ok. But he got tricked and furthermore he stood all alone, soon as his sidekick galoot got crunched.


And Abe's, well abe didn't seem like a fish out of water anymore.

Also, The head BPRD guy seemed totally different than the first. I would have liked to see him become a father figure for Red.

Maybe after HB1 the movie bigshot people feared Abe to seem to little intimidating for human interest ("he already looks like a mushy fish dude, let's not make him act like one all the time") which made him turn into a mushy fishy looking dude, yet not physically impaired by anything - why he would wear a toilet seat breathing apparatus.
I'd say the head guy got set straight during HB1. He seemed to feel nothing much could be helped (regarding the nuisant freak agents), other than for maybe a few cigars and bringing in Johann for a role-model.

[Hellboy_is_cool_indeed]

You know what - you just gave me some very very good answers. thanks!!! :smile: